Bollywood DVDs March 99 .
Mo
the other one was getting too long . Please add your own
reviews to it .
DVDs are going to cause a great increase in what I like to
call 'attention shifting' . Most South Asian homes once they
get Zee TV hardly watch any other channels . I just have
time for the superb amateur talent singing competition '
Saregama' with contestants from all South Asian and overseas
NRI countries and the controversial 'Aap ki Adalat ' and the
news . Zee can be subscribed on satellite . Check with
www.zeetelevision.com .
It has started a new program 'Nayee Awaaz, wohi andaaz'
where they play an English tune and then ask the contestants
to guess which Hindi song has been copied from it ! . Oye
Oye and 'I am a bachelor boy' and many others were played .
I hope they gave royalities to Cliff Richard and others .
American homes of course have attention shifted to VHS tapes
-often preferring to rent and watch them rather than normal
TV but with even 'original' Indian VHS tapes , blurred and
unwatcheable with advts flying over the bottom half of the
screen most Asians have boycotted them .
With crystal clear DVD all that has changed .The best part
is the almost instant access to any song , any part of the
disc and the repeat function. So rather than watch TV or
tape most people are going to put their favourite disc on
and go to the part they want to see again. TV stations are
going to have a tough time to compete . One answer would be
to put their programs on DVD . As somebody pointed out they
are cheaper to stamp out than tape and some of Zee's soap
operas and cooking programs from India and Pakistan are just
excellent and would be a great hit . On tape its too much
of a hassle trying to find them again.
A friend who bought a DVD machine has run through my
collection of about 60 DVDs in less than 4 weeks . Can the
companies keep up with the demand ? Superdigital say on
their web site that they are mastering 6 new films a month
-and do write to them to put subtitles on the movies and the
songs - and with the other makers -WEG , WWE , DEI and T
series making the same amount each month within a year their
are likely to be 400 titles or three years output . I hope
they bring out 'Chote Sarkar -A Govinda , Shilpa classic ,
Qila and Taqdeerewala out soon -all with great songs.
Bollywood is simply not going to be able to bring out new
movies fast enough and the makers might want to subtitle in
the five langs I suggested ( English , Hindi. Urdu , Arabic
and Spanish ) the South Indian and Pakistani movies as well.
For them to make good money on these discs they have to be
sold to the libraries and video stores and for that accurate
subtitling is essential ..
Bollywood Indian DVDs can be bought from
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www.superdvd.com
and in Europe from
www.scan.co.uk
and the price range is now $20 --$25 .
Mo
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sound track as well as the Hindi one ?
This movie was a big hit in the South but flopped in North
India . The reason was that they dubbed into Hindi but tried
too hard with the lip synch and so lost all the poetry that
comes with these movies .
A contestant on Zee's Saregama sang one of the classical
Tamil songs and it was superb , if its on the DVD then its
worth buying .
In contrast the songs are culture transferable . For example
a recent English play based on the movie HAHK with the
Indian tunes but English words was a sell out for 8 weeks .
With DVDs able to play 8 tracks ( is that true of Dolby 5.1
?) it might be an idea to have the songs dubbed in three or
four languages -English , Arabic etc. As the dancing is to
the tune the words can be the most appropriate. You can see
this when in Antakshari they show an old movie with new song
words and one cant tell the difference .
With the viewer able to listen to the song in his own
language as well as Hindi , it will make these movies very
popular ..
Mo
can be seen heard again and again without every getting
tired of them . It must be the novel instruments they used
in the Mast Mast song . What were they ? Sitar ? and what
were the wind instruments ?
As a friend pointed out its like watching Cabaret , where
the actions in the dance are performed according to the
words -for eg. when she touches the hero's eyes and then her
heart and says ' think before you shoot those arrows , you
may suffer a lot ! ' .
What a pity the Sufi singer NFAK died so young . It would
have been fun watching him judge Saregama and the performers
doing his song from this movie -although it was copied , it
did make him very famous and gave him a big break in
Bollywood and the new movie -Kache Dage -has a great track
from him.
The following DVDs are recommended - nearly all have English
subtitles
1990s - Khalnayak . Mohra , Soldier , Kuch kuch hota hai ,
Hum apke hain kaun, Border
1980s -Muqaddur ka skindar ..
1960s -Khandan
check with www.indiaplaza.com
Nataraj NV
audio is on these dvds ... and how they are 'mono', while the whole idea of
dvd was 5.1 channels.
Mo
and what do they think of it ?..
Mo
http://www.superdvd.com/IndiaWest.html
Two Indians gave up six figure sums to set up Superdigital.
Koyla is 5.1 . They are now transferring the entire Stanford
Unviersity lectures on to DVD -i think thats what the web
site says .
The first 1000 copies of Yes Boss DVD sold out in less than
a month just from the website . They are now doing Karaoke
for Vietnamese songs .
I have a feeling that many Hindi movies are outselling
Hollywood ones and that is why Western companies like United
are bringing out Bollywood movies on DVD ( Pardesi Babu ). I
wonder if Irwin has seen it ?..
Mo
Salma Agha , Raj Babbar English subtitles including the
songs
Pirate DVD
Picture quality - very good ,dual layer
Sound-very good .
A very interesting Muslim social drama . I havent seen the
whole movie yet but from what I remember its about a man who
in anger divorces his wife three times by saying 'talaq' .
She then has to marry another according to religious custom
before she can marry him again . Well she marries his best
friend and complications start when she starts preferring
the new husband .
It is great to hear to perfect Urdu spoken by Pakistani
actress Salma Agha -for example she says 'mooaf ' for
forgive me , instead of the customary 'maaf' in Bollywood
movies .
Another feature is the songs of Noorjehan . Why does she
sound so much better in Bollywood movies than she does in
Pakistani ones ?
The subtitling cannot be turned off as it is on the print .
It is great that they have taken the trouble to subtitle the
songs - I think they have been reading Ramli !- and OK its
not 100% accurate -once again I think they should translate
it literally rather than trying to find an equivalent
English phrase - but it does give a sense of what the songs
are about , and songs are very important in these movies as
they move the story along or give it a new twist .
Let me make a suggestion to the pirates . Why not go legit
and buy the rights for these older movies either outright or
on a commision basis ? . Then do an excellent mastering
from the original negative ( this one is quite watcheable
and far better than the legit 'Sholay' ) and put in
subtitles -accurate and literal in English , Spanish ,
Arabic . And also in Hindi and Urdu which are easy because
its just transcribing the script but would prove very
popular with NRIs and NRPs to teach their kids how to read
the languages .
With over 2000 Bollywood movies waiting to come on to DVD
there is enough room for everyone ..
Mo
Sai digital , single side , dual layer
Picture quality -excellent
Sound -very good
This is another movie in glorious full screen , fills every
inch of the large screen TV - forget about widescreen
peering at little figures or the half way letterbox versions
, this full screen is what humans were meant to see !. Lets
have more people who have seen this DVD compare it with the
widescreen ones .
The visual impact of full screen adds another dimension to
movie watching .
This is a must have disc . Absoulely gorgeous palace scenes
with fabulous fabulous dresses - I cant even imagine what
they must have spent on the sets . If you want to see South
Asian costumes , furniture , interior decoration at its best
then get this DVD.
Equally fabulous are the gypsie camp scenes and dances .
Pran , Zeenat Aman , Dharmendra , Neetu Singh and the song
'Oh meri mehbooba , tuje jana hai to ja ' .. does anybody
need another excuse to watch a movie ?
Wish Bollywood would get off this current romance and
gangster stuff and make a few more palace dramas like this
one . If you like this DVD and want Sai digital to master
more of them then write to
dig...@hotmail.com
Well done Saidigital ! Lets have more classics on DVD and
please put on the subtitles in English , Arabic , Hindi ,
Urdu and Spanish and literal translation and of the songs..
Dez
director wanted us to see it! Have you not noticed that when you go to the
theatre, the screen is normally more than 2 times longer than it is wide???
Ever noticed that your television is basically a square? The only way to
see the entire movie on a standard TV is to put it in the centre and have
black bars at the top and bottom. FORGET the short term impact of full
screen and open your eyes to see what you are missing. Don't spread crap
like this - the only way to appreciate a movie is to watch the ENTIRE film
and with a standard television and "full screen", one cannot do this. Pan
and Scan backers are normally the ones that say "I can't see the difference
between VHS and DVD". I acknowledge that you are an avid dvd supporter, but
wanting full screen titles isn't the best thing for the format. DVD is
meant to convert "Joe Six Packs" into knowledgeable movie watchers. Saying
that letterbox versions are "halfway" is ridiculous. In my mind, fullscreen
versions are "halfway" because they brutally destroy the years of hard work
put in by the director and cinematographers. I hate having to deal with
"Joe Six Packs" when they come over and I show them a dvd. "What are those
black bars covering up? Is your TV defective?" I seriously hope that the
public gets educated, otherwise we will see the "VHSifcation" of dvd - pan
and scan, no extras, etc. Besides, you will have to start living with black
bars on all of your "full screen" dvd's once HDTV becomes the norm in a few
years. All of your full screen discs will have black bars on the sides!
hahaha :-)
Mo <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in message ...
Mo
this pirate DVD . Firstly it really does add greatly to the
enjoyment of a movie if the sound has been done properly .
Its not perfect in this movie but it still sounds a lot
better than superdigital ones , and they need to work harder
at it .
Second they have enabled the lastmemo button (unlike
Superdigital) so one can leave the movie at a point and the
disc will then remember it and play from there .
In those days they didnt think it worthwhile mentioning the
playback singers names but there is marvellous ghazal in
here which thanks to Zee's Saregama I think is sung by one
of the Judges on it -Mehdi Hassan or Ghulam Ali 'chupke
chupke' . The disc is worth buying just to hear that.
Another is a song in which the hero plays on a beautiful
silver brown Sitar and they show the finger movements up
close and with the slow function on DVD one can really see
how the strings are plucked .
There is no need to put music lessons on DVD Rom . Even on
ordinary DVD with all the functions -still step , slow
motion etc . it is the ideal medium to teach classical
music ..
Bludhound
Mo <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in
> This is another movie in glorious full screen , fills every
>inch of the large screen TV - forget about widescreen
>peering at little figures or the half way letterbox versions
>, this full screen is what humans were meant to see !. Lets
>have more people who have seen this DVD compare it with the
>widescreen ones .
> The visual impact of full screen adds another dimension to
>movie watching .
You actually like pan & scan DVDs?? Man, the reason I bought a DVD player
in the first place was to watch WIDESCREEN movies, so I can see the whole
picture as seen in the theaters. Current TVs use a 1.33:1 or Academy ratio.
TVs adapted this type of screen because this was the same ratio used in
theaters when television was invented in the 1930s. However, in a ploy to
attract viewers back to theaters, filmmakers changed the ratio to ones
larger than 1.33:1 for a better movie viewing experience. With the advent
of the VCR.....movies were being released for mass market consumption.
However, the ratio used for theatrical motion pictures was different than
what was used on TV. Thus, two processes were used to accomodate this
difference. The first is pan and scan, a hideous process that butchers the
filmmaker's vision for the film. Pan and Scan is acceptable for comedies,
but unacceptable for action and epic films. You are missing a huge chunk of
the picture....thus the person responsible for the transfer pans the
negative to show the missing info...again butchering the director's work.
Hence, the widescreen process was developed. Basically, this changes the
ratio of your TV screen to the theatrical ratio through the use of black
bars. Granted, this looks pretty bad, esp on a small TV screen, but you see
the WHOLE picture, as seen in the movie theaters. The best example for the
need for widescreen has to be the movie Ben Hur. Filmed in 70mm glory using
a MAMMOTH 2.76:1 ratio, this movie looks terrible in its pan and scan
incarnation. To cram a 2.76:1 movie onto a 1.33:1 screen.....don't get me
started. Even in the pan and scan versions, the famous chariot scene is
presented in WIDESCREEN so that we can see this incredible sequence in all
its glory.
It took me 3 years to track down a widescreen version of one of my
favorite all-time movies, Ageepath, and it was like I was watching a
different film. I could see all the incredible camera, all the participants
in a dialogue onscreen etc.
I hope that Indian DVD makes take this into consideration and offer
either both PS and WS versions on the same DVD or WS only. Dharam-Veer was
released in 1977 in 70mm glory. Seeing it at home in anything but
widescreen is a travesty.
-BH
Niraj Agarwalla
: You actually like pan & scan DVDs?? Man, the reason I bought a DVD player
: in the first place was to watch WIDESCREEN movies, so I can see the whole
: picture as seen in the theaters. Current TVs use a 1.33:1 or Academy ratio.
: TVs adapted this type of screen because this was the same ratio used in
: theaters when television was invented in the 1930s. However, in a ploy to
: attract viewers back to theaters, filmmakers changed the ratio to ones
: larger than 1.33:1 for a better movie viewing experience. With the advent
: of the VCR.....movies were being released for mass market consumption.
: However, the ratio used for theatrical motion pictures was different than
: what was used on TV. Thus, two processes were used to accomodate this
: difference. The first is pan and scan, a hideous process that butchers the
: filmmaker's vision for the film. Pan and Scan is acceptable for comedies,
: but unacceptable for action and epic films. You are missing a huge chunk of
: the picture....thus the person responsible for the transfer pans the
: negative to show the missing info...again butchering the director's work.
: Hence, the widescreen process was developed. Basically, this changes the
: ratio of your TV screen to the theatrical ratio through the use of black
: bars. Granted, this looks pretty bad, esp on a small TV screen, but you see
: the WHOLE picture, as seen in the movie theaters. The best example for the
: need for widescreen has to be the movie Ben Hur. Filmed in 70mm glory using
: a MAMMOTH 2.76:1 ratio, this movie looks terrible in its pan and scan
: incarnation. To cram a 2.76:1 movie onto a 1.33:1 screen.....don't get me
: started. Even in the pan and scan versions, the famous chariot scene is
: presented in WIDESCREEN so that we can see this incredible sequence in all
: its glory.
Good post. I think all movies should be seen in widescreen, comedies or
otherwise. Has Ben Hur been released on DVD yet?
: It took me 3 years to track down a widescreen version of one of my
: favorite all-time movies, Ageepath, and it was like I was watching a
: different film. I could see all the incredible camera, all the participants
: in a dialogue onscreen etc.
You have the widescreen version of Agneepath? Where did you get it? I
absolutely love the movie. A suberbly made movie played to perfection by
Amitabh Bachan. His protrayal of the anti-hero was superb. I hope they
release a DVD on it soon.
: I hope that Indian DVD makes take this into consideration and offer
: either both PS and WS versions on the same DVD or WS only. Dharam-Veer was
: released in 1977 in 70mm glory. Seeing it at home in anything but
: widescreen is a travesty.
Agreed.
--
Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
Mo
If God wanted us to peer at little figures on widescreen on
normal TV , he would have given us permanently screwed up
eyes !
Serioulsy what you dont see , you dont miss . There are
millions more pixels hitting your eyes on full screen than
half screen (also known as widescreen) . Until proper
widescreen TV becomes affordable I dont see why anyone would
prefer widescreen ..
Mo
the blows miss the other person by a safe margin . However in this
movie when the hefty 5 8in Zeenat slaps Dharmendra four times in
succesion in the 'Oh meri mehbooba ' song , he keeps his head still
and it does make contact .
The opposite side of the face is distorted with the blow. If
he reads Ramli it would be interesting to hear from him if he
remembers the incident and how many retakes..
Bludhound
Niraj Agarwalla wrote in message ...
>Bludhound (blud...@itookmyprozac.com) wrote:
>: It took me 3 years to track down a widescreen version of one of my
>: favorite all-time movies, Ageepath, and it was like I was watching a
>: different film. I could see all the incredible camera, all the
participants
>: in a dialogue onscreen etc.
>
> You have the widescreen version of Agneepath? Where did you get it? I
>absolutely love the movie. A suberbly made movie played to perfection by
>Amitabh Bachan. His protrayal of the anti-hero was superb. I hope they
>release a DVD on it soon.
I'll be first one to buy a Widescreen version of Agneepath on DVD. I picked
up a widescreen version of Agneepath in Toronto...it came in a plastic case
and was manufactured by Tridev video (I think). One problem.....it's the
version of Agneepath where Amitabh uses his normal voice...instead of that
cool raspy voice he used in the orignal version. This second version came
out a week after the original.....due to the fact the Indian public didn't
appreciate his raspy voice in the movie....I personally like the original
version better. The second version has a different background score
too....it borrows heavily from Scarface.
-BH
Mo
Nobody else seems to have commented if they have seen and
enjoyed this full screen movie . The machine refused to
display the elapsed time for some reason . The menu is well
designed and colorful and a song is played at the same time.
Another feature is 'songs audio' option from the menu . This
displays a still picture of a song and plays the music and
with the chapter search button takes you to the next button.
Unfortunately the disc does not have a repeat function. The
songs however can be recorded on to tape -and sound much
clearer than prerecorded tapes and the 'songs audio' option
means that thing like cars stopping etc . that you hear in
movies during songs are eliminated .
Another option is the 'cast menu' where each actor/actress
has her name and still picture.
Bollywood is just out to entertain and I dont think they
ever employ any history consultants and this movie
cheerfully mixes Roman gladiator fights , French sword
fights , Spanish Galleons with heavy guns , Greek male
miniskirts , Royal roman purple curtains , gypsy dances (
Neetu Singh is excellent as the fun loving gypsy belle) ,
intelligent hawks , ancient Indian customs . Some of the
gory fights have been cut a bit and I am not sure why .
The Queen's evil brother switches his own son for the Kings
and throughout treats the King's son with great cruelty ,
choice swear words .. The joke is that his wife switched
them back while he was sleeping..
This movie
Mo
because of limited budgets Bollywood could not experiment
-for eg finding how much TNT is needed to blow up a car and
make it turn around three times in the air , so before CCRs
all the producers would come to London to watch the latest
Hollywood movies and take inspiration from the stunts in
there .
They would then adapt it for Indian movies making some
changes so people wouldnt recognize them..
Mo
collection DVD
Picture- Very good , Sound -superb
It says widescreen on the cover but it seemed three quarter
screen to me .
One thing DVD owners must do is to become familiar with the
repeat function. You will miss many gems otherwise . For
instance just before the Holi song , a village belle does a
dance in the square and the expression of pleasure on her
face as she is doing it is a joy to watch again and again.
Incidentally is the 100ft or so statue of Shiva in that song
real and if so where is it ? If not real then it should be
built pronto as it is one of the most magnificient
scultptures I have seen . A benign expression on Shiva's
face with the cobra round his neck .
If made a part of a big open air culture centre in the
foothills of the Himalayas it would become a big tourist
draws for that undeveloped area. I certainly would
contribute some money towards such a venture.
Magnificient acting by Sunil Dutt and Nargis who plays his
mother but married him in real life . My favourite was the
bad girl - the money lender's daughter who teases Sunil
unmercifully throughout the movie. Must have disc..
EVP who mastered Dharmveer have a off white -greyish logo
during the songs and it really is hardly noticeable . If
they used the same color in subtitles on the big screen I
think those who dont need them would not even notice them
but they would add greatly to the enjoyment of second
generation immigrants..
Mo
Picture quality -excellent
Sound -excellent -Dolby Digital
Only in a few of the Superdigital ones will you find
picture quality as good as this one . A South Indian Tamil
film dubbed into Hindi . It was a blockbuster in the south
but didnt do well in the North . Nowadays they play safe and
remake the movie in Hindi again - eg Judaii , Hum apke dil .
The songs are beautifully picturised . One shows Ash - real
life Miss World - in the costumes of the host country
dancing on top of the Great Wall of China, Eiffel Tower ,
Leaning Tower and the Pyramids . Because the humans are next
to the structures you really get an idea of the scale of
these structures.
Its a story of twins who must marry twin girls , so this one
girl who loves one of the boys pretends she is her own twin
to woo the other boy until they ask her to do a dance with
her twin . She gets a friend to do a 3D computer model and
dances with that one .Of course the guys are too drunk to
notice the image passing through the real girl and then the
file gets corrupted and the image becomes a skeleton and the
skeleton does a great Indian classical dance - copied from
Sinbad obviously .
A real pity they didnt include the Tamil sound track . This
song 'Dhak tin tin' sounded absolutely superb when sung in
Tamil on Zee TV's Saregama show . Its worth getting the
Tamil version of the DVD -there are only two movies on sale
at indiaplaza.com and this is not one of them..
Mo
Ajay , Twinkle
Picture quality -very good
Sound -very good
This one says manufactured in USA for sale in India . I
expected the worst when I saw the blurry warning sign saying
-rights for this VCD with Indus video .
However the picture quality is better than any VCD I have
ever seen , so I dont think they have put three VCDs on DVD
but have in fact remastered it .
The best scene is where Ajay cuts one arm of the rope bridge
over the gorge to kill Twinkle but then her cries arouses
his compassion and he has to go out in the middle to try and
save her . The scenery is breathtaking ..
Mo
Picture quality -very good
Sound -very good -Dolby 4 channel surround
I believe this is a pirate DVD . It illustrates what
Bollywood is up against . If new movie like KKHH come up
with superb quality pirate DVDs which can be copied on to
VHS ..
The only answer is for the GOI to step in and insist on
quality export standards . All DVDs mastered in India or
those requesting Indian copyright must have 500 lines
resolution , Dolby 5.1 , six language accurate subtitling of
the movie and the songs , sound tracks of the languages the
movie is released in . This would make these DVDs more
popular than the pirate ones even if they are say $5 mor
expensive , which is all the producer gets anyway ..
I may put another comment after having seen the movie. The
best movie reviews are on
http://www.indolink.com/bollywood/mvierevs.html
Mo
quality is exceptional . The fight with the tiger is very
good. Normally the man waits for the tiger to pounce but in
this case it is Bobby who goes after it while the poor thing
is trying to retreat .
Using the step frame of the DVD its clear that it is a stunt
man but even so it is very well done .Tiger and man tumbling
one over the other down the hill ..the league against
cruelty has not seen this movie . I also liked the Python
trying to strangle Twinkle .
There is a lot of thought and hard work that goes into
making a Bollywood movie - Twinkle in this one must wear a
100 different outfits each more eyecatching than the last..
Mo
Indian movies ever made and has been selected for the
International Film Festival . It didnt too well in the North
because they tried too hard with the lip synch and failed to
translate the Tamil poetry I assume.
The Ajuba song is truly faboulsly picturized . You will not
see better views of the Taj Mahal . I have been there and
didnt notice the two buildings on either side of it . This
is where the still step feature of the DVD comes in really
useful . Has anybody tried to capture and print out in color
from a DVD , what is the print quality like ?
Of all the outfits Ash wears in that song -the Golden
Egyptian and the Red Chinese are the best .This DVD is a
must have just for that song. They should have another
category for the awards for the best picturized song . I am
sure 'Musical Evenings' where they show nothing but 2 hours
of the best songs on the big screen would be a very big
hit.
Aap Aye Bahar Ai ? 1960 -Rajinder Kumar , Sadhana
No subtitles . WEG
Picture quality -excellent (considering the age)
Sound -very good
Can one master the sound at too high a volume ? This one is
very loud . I think DEI has the most melodious sound so far
Mo
cinemascope..
Mo
Picture quality -watcheable
Sound - average
HADM is the story of man who marries Kajol on a one year
contract . She tries her best to please him but he dumps her
anyway and the second half is the story of her revenge. The
Dhing Tara Bhangra song is the best .A must see movie .
ABLC is the story of immigrant Indians . What difficulties
they face when coming to the USA - fired from most jobs -
their relatives confiscating their passports and making them
work for slave wages , brothers trying to marry off their
sisters to old rich men and get promotion and of course
Pakistani/ Indian disputes. Jaspal Bhatti and Kader Khan as
the feuding Sardar and Pathan who share the same flat are
superb. A funny bit is when a friendly Indian couple offer a
beetle nut pan to a Policeman and he breaks his tooth on it
and sues and gets all their life earnings and they quit the
US in disguist . Again a must see movie .
Both of these are pirate copies of recent superhits still
playing at the theaters. They both have a bit of shimmer ,
but still better than any VHS one can rent .
If the sound had been better as in KKHH it might have been
worth getting them , but I would advise to wait for the
legit copy.
I have mentioned steps that the distributors can take to
combat piracy . The wrong way to do it would be to go after
them legally ( in many countries including I think the big
USA market Indian movies dont have copyright anyway for
reasons of cost ) and then bring out their own inferior
copies .
The right way is to bring out high resolution 500 lines ,
with Dolby 5.1 within a month of release and accurate
literal translation of the dialog as in MKS , AND the songs
and in English , Hindi ,Urdu , Arabic and Spanish .
Even those who have bought or rented pirate copies will then
buy the legit one for themselves . There are probably 1m
South Asians in the USA but at a conservative estimate I
think 10% of American households , especially Hispanics who
love the colorful songs and dances -and they really are a
visual feast for the eyes -just see the girls in traditional
dress doing a Pathan dance in ABLC- or 25m people and this
increases the market tenfold.
So get the best translators (the guy who did MKS) and get
the best copies out and forget about the pirates . There is
a goldmine out there..
Mo
Eros DEI -English subtitles -Tabu , Kamal Hassan
Picture quality -very good
Sound -Perfect .
A really entertaining movie . KH makes up as a woman servant
to win his wife and daughter back from the tough father in
law . The usual funny complications . Great acting by Om
Puri . Search Dejanews for more reviews.
With the memory and repeat function of the DVD its a joy to
watch Tabu do the classical South Indian dance -albeit just
a brief bit (same as Ash in Jeans) . The DVD will keep
playing the loop endlessly until you turn the repeat
function off and its a great way of seeing just how much
attention to detail there is in those songs and dances . For
eg the background scene in HAHK when Madhuri plays the
guitar type of instrument and in Ishq the Roman scultpures
in the windows -which one would miss on first seeing..
Mo
Bhajpai , Charabotty , Urmilla , Paresh Rawal
Picture quality - Very good
Sound- Perfect , Dolby 5.1
What pleasure it is to hear such crystal clear sound - this
I think must be the best Bollywood or even Hollywood
mastered disc for sound quality .
An excellent review by Ali Ikram on
http://www.indolink.com/bollywood/mvierevs.html.
The Police were not happy about this movie saying it
glamorized the criminals in the Mumbai Underworld who
indulge in all sorts of extortion rackets , contract
killings and then dream of escaping to Dubai but I think its
quite the opposite .
Its Bollywood movies which have in fact glamorized criminals
, showing them living in huge houses with pretty women and
endless parties , whereas here they live in the grimy flats
of Bombay -nasty brutal and short lives and no-one in his
right mind would want to copy them .
The English subtitling is very good and accurate but I would
urge them to be even more literal . For example some of the
underlying menace is taken away when its translated as '
What do you think now I have got the better of you , what
shall I do with you ' when one gangster gets the better of
the other and has a knife in his hand . What he really says
is ' .. shall I take your liver out ! ' or another scene
where the guy says ' I know him since he was a child ' what
he actually says is ' I have known him since he was in
nappies ' a bit more personal and colorful . Of course
f words neednt be translated.
What is the matter with the guys at DEI , why cant the songs
which with repeating verses are only about 10 lines long be
translated ? . Some of the words being Marathi I didnt
recognize but if somebody posts the lyrics I will have a go
at the translation .
I am really glad that although this is semi art movie there
are still five songs - they do make the movie a lot more
entertaining . The best is of course the first 'Golee maar
bheje me , ' - 'Shoot a bullet in this guy's skull , watch
the brains spilling out' - or something like that . It must
be a woman's worst nightmare watching the men dance around
like this , slobs in vests drinking beer and pouring it over
each other.
All the actors are just fantastic in their roles . The
gangster chief's wife who is very unlike most Indian wives
who will bear any injustice and touch their husband's feet -
well this one not only nags him in front of his men , she
even beats him up at times !
Chaku is the other guy who in Daud was smitten with Urmilla
and here as the music director asks her when she is applying
for a job as a singer ' Apart from your talent what else
have you got to offer me ? ' not realising that she is a
contract killer's girlfriend !
This movie has not been on general release on the big screen
in the West - not easy to get to anyway -and is one I would
have never seen as I have refused to watch 'original' VHS
and would have missed a gem like this if it had not been out
on DVD.
It gives a much more authentic feel of Bombay life than
Bollywood movies . It really is a must see -compulsive
watching ..
Some past reviews on Ramli
SATYA- DEI/EROS-1998, 5.1 dolby digital,english
subtitles,175 minutes.
The latest dvd release from DEI/EROS is Ram Gopal Verma's
critically acclaimed crime drama "Satya" and it is given a
first-class treatment which is, of late, becoming
commonplace from DEI/EROS.
Giving the dvd consumer more than a no-frills product, which
companies like Superdigital and WEG have been dumping on the
consumer, is one sure way to attract and keep new customers.
For instance, where else can you get such cool main menu
graphics like they give you in the "Satya" dvd. Press DVD
menu and you get an image of "Satya" star J.D.Chakravarthy
pointing a gun straight at you. Select an option and you
hear the sound of 3 gunshots followed by smoke oozing out
the gun barrel and a jigsaw puzzle dismantling of the image
as you head to your destination. Subtitles, song menu,
chapter index, play movie, upcoming dvd releases, and
details of currently available dvd releases are available at
your fingertips.
Set in Mumbai, this is the story of Satya (Chakravorty) who
comes to the big city to earn a living but is soon drawn
into the Mumbai underworld. He eventually meets and falls in
love with Vidya (Urmilla Matondkar, excellent in a small
role) which complicates the life he has been living and what
he hopes for their future. "Satya" is a violent and
realistic crime drama with excellent perfomances by all.
Expertly directed by Verma, one of bollywood's most
inventive directors.
The video picture is excellent, on par with DEI/EROS
superbly done "Soldier." The 5.1 audio is in a word-
sensational. During a violent gun battle with police,
bullets fly from speaker to speaker, from front to back and
side to side. It was so realistic I almost felt like ducking
for cover, myself. The backgrond music by Vishal is
stirring, and the songs are melodious and memorable.
Especially "Gholi Mar", "Sapne Mein," and "Baadlon Se." Lata
Mangeshkar and the other singers excel.
A must-have dvd. "Satya" is not yet available at most
outlets, but can be purchased directly from DEI at:
www.indianfilmsdvd.com ..Irwin Mann ( in fact Satya is now
availble from www.indiaplaza.com , www.scan.co.uk and
others)
Satya
Starring: Urmila Matondkar and introducing Chakravarthy
Director: Ram Gopal Varma Music: Vishal
SATYA is a truly excellent, completely atypical Indian film.
It's a gangster movie (a "triad" movie if you will) with the
values of an art movie. The story is gripping, the
photography and acting are great, the setting is realistic,
and unlike most Indian films, the action scenes are done
well.
Non-Hindi speakers will be able to appreciate the visual and
musical aspects of the film, but will be frustrated at not
being able to understand the dialogue, even though the
overall story is still comprehensible. I really hope this
movie gets subtitled and released in American theatres.
Ironically, I think SATYA will appeal more to western
audiences than to Indian ones.
Although the soundtrack album is very good, the movie
actually has very little singing and dancing in it. It's
mostly a straight western-style drama, with the music played
in the background. In the two lone dance numbers, the
director seems to deliberately flaunt Indian film
conventions. In one number, instead of good-looking actors
in gorgeous costumes dancing to elaborate choreography, we
get scruffy, undershirted gangsters goofing around in a bar.
In both numbers, the mouth-to-voice matching is very
careless so that men end up mouthing to women's voices,
individuals mouth to choruses, etc. -- as if to say "this is
all very silly, you know." I got the feeling the director
wanted to make a non-musical, but was required to put in
dance numbers by commercial forces.
Also non-standard is that the intermission comes about 2
hours into the film and the second part only runs for a
half-hour or so. Ram Gopal Varma also directed the films
SHIVA, DROHI, RAAT, RANGEELA, DAUD and the upcoming KAUN. If
SATYA is any indication, they should all be worth checking
out.
Unsubtitled: Worth seeing, but frustrating Subtitled: Highly
recommended Rave reviews (which include plot summaries):
http://www.indiabollywood.com/filmreview/satya.htm
http://www.planetbollywood.com/Film/satya.html
http://www.indiaworld.co.in/open/rec/films/new.html
http://www.indolink.com/bollywood/mvierevs.html
And one not-rave, but which still agrees it's excellently
made: http://www.indiamovies.com/darmi.htm
(I don't agree with the criticisms in this review. I think
the reviewer just didn't get it, but it may echo the
feelings of the average Indian filmgoer.)..Kent Johnson
Superbly crafted, Well directed, Powerfully enacted - that
in short is Satya. There is hardly a dull moment, even
though the movie runs for almost 3 hours. Without any
frills, the action starts straightaway from the first frame.
No longdrawn flashbacks or detailed background here, as we
follow Chakri's non-descript entry into city, his skirmishes
with the local don's and gradual entry into the underworld.
The plot sounds familiar, but lot of thought and heart seems
to have gone into scripting Satya. The effort shows!
But, without taking away any credit from Ramu (director),
Satya is engaging becoz of ManojBajpai's Outstanding
performance. as the local underworld don (character which is
rumoured to have traces of ArunGawli). The last time a new
actor gave such a mesmerising performance on his debut was
NanaPatekar and that was ages ago. All the time, you feel
that this guy is living the role , rather than acting it. It
bestows the movie with credibility and raises it above the
usual underworld yarn.
Another unique aspect of Satya is the dialogues. It's filled
with punch and has those gags which lightens up a tense
scene. Check out for the scene, when Manoj's gang goes to
collect "Hafta"- where the sidekick cracks a joke which
almost puts u in a light mood, but a violent ambush
brutually cuts it short. Or the scene which has Manoj
torturing a rival gang member,whereas the gang members
around manoj casually joke and rag chakri about Urmila,
Gotta mention about the "Chu*ya" dialogues - wondering how
it got past the censors! No doubt, it's a commonly used
slang and gives the interaction between characters a
"natural" look, but what did Ramu offer to get it past the
fickle censorboard?
Satya scores on the technical aspects too. Photography is
good and jells well with the different moods of the movie.
Ramu got a Cinematographer from outside to get a "outsider
perspective" of Bombay. There isn't too much experimentation
- lighting etc.
Editing is another highlight. As i mentioned before, there
is hardly a dull moment, except for the short period where
two songs follows each other in rapid succession. Songs are
OK. I liked the Background score better. It's a pity that
Background music is hardly given any importance in our
films, whereas it has a great role in enhancing the affect
of a scene. Satya has a good Bg score.
On to the acting credits. We see a different Urmila here. A
sariclad, demure character. No, there are no "dream scenes
sneaked in to show her dancing Rangeela style" :-) . She has
given a decent performance. Chakri barely manages to scrape
thru as Satya. He lacks the screen presence or personality
to enact "sunnydeol" type of role.
But, the director has used him Smartly; he hardly speaks in
the movie (must be some record) and most of the scenes are
(deliberately?) dominated by Manoj or Urmila, whenever they
are around. In effect, Ramu seems to have converted a major
liability into an asset, by making Chakri a passive pivot
around whom the film revolves.
A movie worth a look; Considering the drought of engaging
movies around, it is Definitely worth a visit.
cheers.. raj
Mo
It is interesting to see the colorful giant statues of the
elephant God Ganesh being immersed in the ocean - this is a
yearly festival in Bombay .
What a wondeful actress Urmilla is ! , matched in her range
of facial expressions perhaps only by Tabu . DVD is a great
way of learning acting -just watch the expressions on her
face when she finds out that her boyfriend is a killer -
impossible not to feel her pain and cry along with her .
What makes this movie so hard hitting is the finality of
death shown . One minute the people are joking and playing
with their families and the next minute they are dead .
Unlike Bollywood movies the killing here is not trying to
disarm or challenge a man but as must happen in real life
shooting him from the back.
What is about bullets that the killing is so efficient -
just watch a big buck crumple after being hit - it must be
massive internal damage and bleeding , even so it does seem
very fast ..
Mo
is the huge bronze relief paintings in the house of the
politician . One is a three headed God I didnt recognize ,
it looked like Buddha and the other I think Krishna and
Arjuna in the chariots - the horses rearing up on their feet
gives this sculpture a real dynamic apperance .
Anybody know what the 'return' button on the DVD remote is
used for ?..
Mo
Picture quality --Excellent to not so good
Sound quality - Exellent to not so good .
Much better than previous song collections from the same
group . Lala dupate wali from Ankhen will probably be
everyone's favourite - some of the lyrics are decidely
risque . Madhuri doing 'Joota hai Jaipani' is also good ..
One must deplore these collections of hits , many times as
with Superdigital ones the same songs are repackaged . Far
better to have ALL the songs of say four movies - 20 odd
songs -on one DVD - mastered from the original negative and
with the lyrics subtitled accurately in the six languages I
have mentioned before.
Imagine the number of DVDs they would sell in Middle East
and other areas where these songs are so popular ..
Mo
Urmilla , Amir Khan , Jackie
Picture quality - Excellent
Sound quality - Excellent -Digital 4 channel
Music -A R Rahman
Director - Ram Gopal Verma (same as Satya)
A very young looking , very beautiful and very short skirted
Urmilla - who would think it was the same woman in Satya !
?
How do people watch a film they have never seen before on
DVD ? I tend to watch all the songs and then bits of the
movie over a couple of days . The only disadvantage is that
you get a good idea of the ending before the start. Not that
it matters too much . The songs , dances , dialog , dresses
, background props are really what makes these movies so
entertaining .
This film is about the making of a Bollywood movie - a
comedy about what the producer and director have to go
through with actresses and their mothers .
Pity it is not subtitled by the new boys in town - Media
Digital . There is slight color bleed in the scenes with
high light levels but otherwise its just about perfect. I
prefer Anu Malik's music above that of ARR but the songs in
this one are fairly good and beautifully picturized and I
may add a comment after having seen the rest of the move..
Mo
Urmilla , Amir Khan , Jackie
Picture quality - Excellent
Sound quality - Excellent -Digital 4 channel
Music -A R Rahman
Director - Ram Gopal Verma (same as Satya)
A very young looking , very beautiful and very short skirted
Urmilla - who would think it was the same woman in Satya !
?
How do people watch a film they have never seen before on
DVD ? I tend to watch all the songs and then bits of the
movie over a couple of days . The only disadvantage is that
you get a good idea of the ending before the start. Not that
it matters too much . The songs , dances , dialog , dresses
, background props are really what makes these movies so
entertaining .
This film is about the making of a Bollywood movie - a
comedy about what the producer and director have to go
through with actresses and their mothers .
Pity it is not subtitled by the new boys in town - Media
Digital . There is slight color bleed in the scenes with
high light levels but otherwise its just about perfect.
If they could subtilte the dialog and all the songs
accurately as was done in Sikander ka Muqaddar they would
have huge sales from video stores and libraries.
I would suggest subtitling in English , Hindi ,Urdu , Arabic
and Spanish . It probably costs only a few hundred dollars
to get all those done and expand the potential market a
hundredfold..
Neekesh Dharia
ever does is copy songs and he is very un original. He is so horrible, ie
in HADMRH "bill and monica went up the hill"? That is plain stupid. AR
Rahman on the other hand is very original and introduced new type of music
to Bollywood. AR Rahman is simply the best in Bollywood, even in INdia. I
cannot believe that you said ANU MALIK is better than him... I am in total
shock!
Mo
stay humming in your head . You will find they are all non ARR songs.
Anu Malik doesnt write the lyrics . ARR just copies western composers
and his music has a very monotonus beat .
Niraj Agarwalla
: Oh yes ? Name the songs that you remember , know the lyrics of and
: stay humming in your head . You will find they are all non ARR songs.
: Anu Malik doesnt write the lyrics . ARR just copies western composers
: and his music has a very monotonus beat .
Well everyone has been going crazy over the DIL SE tune "Chaiyya Chaiyya"
recently. Plus he did do the soundtracks for both ROJA and BOMBAY. Have
you listened to the theme of BOMBAY yet? It is magnficient. You always complain
about the lack of orchestration in Indian film music, you shoud listen to the
BOMBAY theme.
I think you are being rather unfair to ARR by saying that he "just
copies western composers". It is true that ARR incorporates Western music
to his songs, but he does it so well. He does it much better than other
music directors who either just lift entire songs, or mix it in such a way
that it becomes a bit obtuse. I personally think of him as a crafsman of
sort. He subtly mixes Western beats with Indian film music. It works well,
in my opinion.
p.s.
Did he do the music for HUM SE MUQABALA?
--
Hasnat Mosharraf
MUCH more harder to compose that the Anu stuff... ARR r much catchy.... Chiyya
chaiyaa is way has WAY Different beat pattern than any other Bollywood song... on
the other hand look at Anu's Janam Samja Karo..... it's pure techno krap...... all
simple LOOPS and Samples from western beats.... nothing original even i can do at
home with my computer... and the English lyrics on that song...... give me a
break.....
Mo
something like that ? His music is western and sounds very alien to
subcontinental brains..
Desi-Patriot
<neekesh...@cfu.net> wrote:
>I cannot believe that you prefer Anu Malik over AR Rahman. All Anu Mailk
>ever does is copy songs and he is very un original. He is so horrible, ie
>in HADMRH "bill and monica went up the hill"? That is plain stupid. AR
>Rahman on the other hand is very original and introduced new type of music
>to Bollywood. AR Rahman is simply the best in Bollywood, even in INdia. I
>cannot believe that you said ANU MALIK is better than him... I am in total
>shock!
I hate anu Malik, i met that dude so many times, and he always thinks
hes some kind of western stud, he wears a dumb jamaican hat that dont
even suit him, he relly irritates me, and his voice suxks, he should
quit singing and stick to making music,..i mean anu has made some good
music but still he is really annoying.
AR rahman is the man!!! he rules, especially after vande mataram, he
is mantaining his number 1 position!
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NotYoMomma
makes my head hurt.
Niraj Agarwalla
> Well i am musician myself...... and i think ARR songs r much better and they r MUCH
> MUCH more harder to compose that the Anu stuff... ARR r much catchy.... Chiyya
> chaiyaa is way has WAY Different beat pattern than any other Bollywood song... on
> the other hand look at Anu's Janam Samja Karo..... it's pure techno krap...... all
> simple LOOPS and Samples from western beats.... nothing original even i can do at
> home with my computer... and the English lyrics on that song...... give me a
> break.....
I don't know about you, but I cringe whenever I heard English lyrics in
Indian film music. It just doesn't come out right. The heavily-accented
English sounds atrocious. Just imagine if a Western artists tried to
sing a Hindi song, I think the result would be the same.
--
Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
GO RED SOX!!!!
Niraj Agarwalla
If it sounds so "alien to subcontinental brains" then why is ARR so
popular in India? I think you have been living in the UK too long.
Mo
English subtitles - Digital mono
Picture quality -very good
Sound -very good
Amitabh , Sridevi
A movie about the warring tribes of Afghanistan -
beautifully photographed high shots . The music is a mixture
of Hindi and Afghan tunes . Later on it shifts to Nepal .
Those who have seen the movie please add a comment .
Is it possible in the more advanced countries where they
have teletext to put the subtitles as an option when
broadcasting from DVD ?. Some cable channels have awful
picture quality and if they started playing DVD with
optional subtitles instead of pirated VHS they could
increase the audience tremendously . I imagine you would
have to play a second DVD to take off the subtitled
information.
Its good that DEI is bringing out good prints of these
classics although I wish they would make them full screen !
Again one has to fiddle with the color , contrast and
brightness buttons as the DVD settings seem to be different
from normal TV but once you do that the effect is magical .
One comment about Satya . Another excellent song is the
wedding one ' Girl of my dreams' very well danced by Manoj
Bhajpai . Its the sort of thing one would see at weddings
rather than the more elaborate ones shown in movies.
Mo
gave four superhits in one year - Ishq , Virasat , Judaii ,
Border .
Has any of ARRs movies ever been a hit - it would if he
would use more Indian instruments like Tabla , Sarangi
instead of computer synthesizers..
Mo
I think its the same person who did MKS . Quality shows !
It really is a tremendous way of learning Urdu words which
we all hear but have never got round to figuring out what
they mean - eg Murraba , Parcham etc.
A minor criticism -sometimes a line or two is missed
completely as for eg when AB says here comes my maut (
death) looking at Sri devi about 15mins into the movie but
still it is a delight to watch a movie with such excellent
subtitling and learn all the words . Sadly for some strange
reason - i dont think DEI WANT these movies to get a big
market ! - the songs are not subtitled although they are
pretty easy to do .
Blockbuster wont store them as they will get endless
complaints but if they did subtitle the songs they could
make a guaranteed profit from every film mastered..
Gareth Bill
Who can tell me if Khal Nyaak is available in any format in this country I
fell in love with this soundtrack whilst in India ( especially chole ke
peche ka hey, excuse my spelling) whenever i hear bollywood music i think
of being woken up on a bus with this song blaring out) and my audio tape is
wearing a bit thin.
(awaiting the flames for posting totally of subject in a dvd NG)
--
Gareth Bill - Mid Wales - UK
Hasnat Mosharraf wrote in message <36EA051B...@hotmail.com>...
>Well i am musician myself...... and i think ARR songs r much better and
they r MUCH
>MUCH more harder to compose that the Anu stuff... ARR r much catchy....
Chiyya
>chaiyaa is way has WAY Different beat pattern than any other Bollywood
song... on
>the other hand look at Anu's Janam Samja Karo..... it's pure techno
krap...... all
>simple LOOPS and Samples from western beats.... nothing original even i can
do at
>home with my computer... and the English lyrics on that song...... give me
a
>break.....
>
Neekesh Dharia
news:HMiG2.14418$%7.2...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> Oh yes ? Name the songs that you remember , know the lyrics of and
>stay humming in your head . You will find they are all non ARR songs.
>Anu Malik doesnt write the lyrics . ARR just copies western composers
>and his music has a very monotonus beat .
ar rahman does not copy western composers... that is Anu Malik.. you can
trace parts of his songs in kareeb to HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, music from the
godfather... he made two copies of the macarena. the music he called his
own in THE GENTLEMAN... three songs were AR Rahman's including roop suhna,
ashiqui mein and chiku biku... AR Rahman did the original music in Tamil.
Anu Malik has copied countless songs from the south (not ARR's but other
people's as well). ARR is simply the best. his sound is not alien to
india.. have you heard classical jiya jale or kehta hai mera dil?
mani ratnam - one of the best directors in india, has only used ARR for his
past 5 films, dil se, iruvar, bombay, thiruda thiruda, roja.
shekhar kapur - one of the best directors in india, has ARR lined up for his
next hindi film, Taram Pum Pum.
raj kumar santhoshi who had anu mailk do china gate had ARR do upcoming
pukar. he loved ARR so much that he begged him to do music for his next
film starring shah rukh and aamir.
subhash ghai wanted ARR to do music for pardes but ARR didnt have time. so
now ARR is doing TAAL and also his next, SHIKHAR. subhash ghai said about
ARR in an interview "he is the only music director in india that knows
hindustani classical, karnatic classical, and western classical" subhash
ghai has said that arr is the best music director in india. have you heard
the songs from ROJA, Bombay, Dil Se, Sapnay, Jeans, Rangeela, Chor Chor,
Hindustani, Vande Mataram, the list goes on.
Ok, here is my list of songs that i know the lyrics to and hum in my head...
Kehna Hi Kya (bombay)
chotti si asha (roja)
hai rama (rangeela)
jiya jale (dil se)
chaiyya (dil se)
anjali (duet/tu hi mera dil)
mere yaara dildara (kabhi na kabhi)
bol sajni (doli sajake rakhna)
ma tujhe salam (vande mataram)
premika na pyar se (humse hai muqabala)
chanda re (sapnay)
ajooba (jeans)
my list goes on FOR EVER.
ARR is simply the best in INdia.
Bye
Neekesh
Mo
Mo
Niraj Agarwalla
Let see. He has done ROJA, BOMBABY, and DIL SE. He may have done
others in Hindi, and plus he has dones tons of music for Tamil movies.
--
Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
GO RED SOX!!!!
Neekesh Dharia
>gave four superhits in one year - Ishq , Virasat , Judaii ,
>Border .
> Has any of ARRs movies ever been a hit - it would if he
>would use more Indian instruments like Tabla , Sarangi
>instead of computer synthesizers..
Mo, Judaai was by Nadeem Shravan. Border only had ONE good song. Ishq's
song "mr lova luva" was copied from an English song. Virasat was a movie
remade from Tamil so I would not be surprised if the songs are "inspired" by
Illayraja's Tamil songs. ARR uses many traditional instruments in Dil Se,
En Swasa Kaatre, Jeans, Duet.. etc!
ARR has had the following hit movies:
Roja (all languages, his FIRST movie)
Bombay (all languages)
Jeans (Tamil)
Rangeela (Hindi)
Minsara Kanavu (Tamil)
Indian (all languages, Hindustani)
Gentleman (Tamil)
Kaadhalan (Tamil)
AND SO MANY MORE in Tamil and Hindi. Every MUSIC ALBUM of his has been a
hit even if the movies flopped.
This upcoming year he will have hits in Hindi: TAAL, PUKAAR...etc, and
Tamil: PADAIYAPPA, KADHALAR DHINAM, TAJ MAHAL, MUDHALVAN.. etc.
Bye
Neekesh
Mo
English is a wonderful language with a huge vocabulary and
so it should be easy to do literal translation from another
language . For me the best thing about Bollywood is the
superb Urdu dialog , it really it stays in your brain for
days and if the DVD producers want their discs to be
commercialy succesful they need to pay attention to accurate
subtitling - of the songs the most important part but also
of the rest of the movie .
For example in this movie when a chief says to AB I am going
to arrest you he replies ' Khuda ke bande ko Shatan kya jail
karege' - ' Man of God will be arrested by
Satan ? ! ' The translator who has done a very good job
however does this one as 'How will you arrest a good man?'
Weak and not accurate and loses its punch . That' why I say
do it literally - more accurate and more fun and punchy.
Bollywood movies can take years to make unlike Hollywood
ones which are completed within months . One took 14 years -
Mughle Azam I think and they had to change the heroine as
she had grown too old ! - it was a superhit . The reason is
the tremendous attention to detail in each frame . Just look
at the background scenery , camera angles . In this movie
even the credits are done extraordinarily beautifully ..
Mo
Link to keep people uptodate on Pakistani News . Also Zeenat
Aman is starring in a new movie which should be out soon.
Sharjah cup between India , England and Pakistan will be
shown live .
There is a very good program called 'Baje Payal' a half hour
show which highlights the careers of different dancers. Hema
Malini was shown recently (she still retains her Tamil
accent ) and she is producing a new movie which will have
lots of classical Bharatnatyam and Kathak dances . She did a
serial on TV of all these and wish Zee would show them .
Please write to them .
She was talking about the last dance in Sholay and how the
director deliberately made her do it in the hot summer
months barefoot on the rocks because he wanted to bring out
the pain in her expressions . Are there any Tamil DVDs that
show classical South Indian dances ?
Mo
Mo
Hasnat Mosharraf
amazing .... but then again most of songs r pure Dance Wannabes....
Ishq did copy some english songs (Neend churaya mein, Mr. lova
lova)... Virasat has really good songs. Border sucked.. Judaii
sucked....
Mo, I dont think u can judge a coposer on how the movie does. It more
depends on the actor/actress/director....blablabla.... but the musical
score it self.... it's another thing which ARR has done a kick ass job
so far...
And abt computer and music.... agree ARR does lotsa composition on
modern time but then again there is no musik director in bollywood that
doesnt use computer composition... and ANU, he uses heavy computer
synsthesizing....trust me... the whole Janam Samja Karo is an example of
it...
LOOPS and cd sampling ...... the song janam samja karo..... my lord
heavy sampling..... even fm Bally Sagoos Jugni Sample is in it..
Mo
scan.co.uk for £18 I think ( $25)
01204 474747
check their site www.scan.co.uk
Mo
-Din dhak din - but I have a feeling that was the one not
done by ARR . Hopefully they will bring out the Tamil
version of Jeans on DVD soon ..
"Neekesh Dharia" <neekesh...@cfu.net> wrote:
>> Saw him on Channel V's BPL recently . He pointed out that he
>>gave four superhits in one year - Ishq , Virasat , Judaii ,
>>Border .
>> Has any of ARRs movies ever been a hit - it would if he
>>would use more Indian instruments like Tabla , Sarangi
>>instead of computer synthesizers..
>Mo, Judaai was by Nadeem Shravan. Border only had ONE good song. Ishq's
Mo
www.scan.co.uk
sell Bollywood DVDs .
Ring them on 01204 474747
They charge £18 ( including VAT) , £1 postage -free if more
than 5 ordered and deliver next day .
The ones you will enjoy are
Khalnayak
Mohra
Satya
Soldier
Border
Mo
nothing like classical South Indian which I find very good
indeed..
Mo
This movie was made to please the Afghans but probably only
gave them a headache . Do Pathans shout all the time they
are talking ?
And without comedy breaks it becomes too tedious -all this
melodrama , ones blood pressure goes up and up until it ends
in a stroke . It breaks the Bollywood rule that after every
death there must be a comedy sketch to restore the mood .
Sri Devi has also been miscast as she was in Heer Ranja
(part 2) when they could have chosen genuine hefty Afghan
girls like Zeenat Aman or Tabu . Also double roles to save
money are to be deplored.
I felt compelled to fast forward after the interval and
luckily with the DVD one can do it in 20 seconds , stopping
to put the still frame on some of the breathtakingly
beautiful mountain scenes from Afghanistan..
Shridhar
>AR Rahman is simply the best in Bollywood, even in INdia
That can't be true. Vishal Bharadwaj beats him hands down in all categories
of music. He is the only "quality film" MD we have in India. Rahman
is good but not as good and original as Vishal. Moreover, Rahman has declined
considerably ever since he got fame in Bollywood.
Shridhar
q; >
Moron <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in message ...
>Are there any Tamil DVDs that show classical South Indian dances ?
Ya the woman who gave birth to you, Mrs. Moron !
Red Hat Linux User
> I liked the classical song in Jeans-sung on Zee's Saregama-
> -Din dhak din - but I have a feeling that was the one not
> done by ARR . Hopefully they will bring out the Tamil
> version of Jeans on DVD soon ..
What an A..hole. Can;t he get the facts correct before shooting off.? The song
was composed by ARR.
Mo
of 5 songs each - about 700 songs are composed each year and
even if 20 or 30 are copied tunes its a small and
insignficant amount and in fact serves a useful function of
bringing the best music to the Indian masses who wouldnt see
Hollywood movies or listen to Western music anyway.
They should of course acknowledge that but that might lay
them open to copyright laws and Indian producers probably
couldnt afford the fees .
Just after the oye oye song -copied from an American singer
- there is a scene at the jail where the prisoner is being
difficult and the rich man tells him to shut up or 'the
officer will send you to hell '. Thats the way its
translated . What he really says is more colorful
'shut up or the officer will take your skin off , make shoes
out of it and make you wear them !'
Once again a plea to the translators , leave the words as
they are and dont sanitise them and lose all the charm of
the movie . If they do this throughout it does ruin the
ambience of the movie..
Dr. Ganesh Vaidyanathan
>
> Khuda Gwah ( God is the witness) -Eros DEI -?1985
> English subtitles - Digital mono
> Picture quality -very good
> Sound -very good
approximate aspect ratio to the above info. You guys are doing a
terrific job of informing us about the quality of these discs and the
requested additional info will be of great help to me and other
widescreen lovers.
Khuda Gawah on VHS was an atrocious pan and scan version. I hope the DVD
is in widescreen or at least has the option to view it in ws.
Many thanks
ramk...@imap3.asu.edu
Mo (10033...@compuserve.com) wrote:
: But the movies all seem to have flopped. His music sounds
: ARR is simply the best in INdia.
: Bye
: Neekesh
Mo
mentioned , otherwise its letterbox.
Same with Dolby 5.1 , if not mentioned it is dolby mono..
Mo
?1970 , no subtitles , glorious full screen
Picture quality -very good ( considering age)
Sound - good
Its more enjoyable watching a 1970 movie like this than a
badly mastered 1995 'Border' with its low resolution . I
think they have used an original print in Aap ..as you can
occasionaly hear the crackles !
A nice comedy . Beautiful old type songs from Lata and
Rafi. One thing to watch out is the villain businessman Prem
Nath fondling an English secretary doll - Lilly - on his
lap and she speaks good Hindi too !
Nataraj NV
>show classical South Indian dances ?
Since you post non-music related things here, regardless of what others say,
might as well give you some hints.
Try Vijayanthimala movies.
Gaurav Sareen
I prefer ar over anu but like them both, they are more "original" than the
trite Jatin-Lalit or Anand-Milind or Viju or Nadeem(?)-Shravan. And I dont
care if they copy until what they copy and how they copy is good.
Shridhar wrote in message <7cgnps$b...@drn.newsguy.com>...
Mo
tara in Hum apke dil mein . Only Anu Malik is truly
versatile and its wrong to blame him for the odd copying
because the producers make him..
Deepak Sabnis
MrsSingh wrote in message <36ef7c40...@news.hal-pc.org>...
>She is bengali not tamil! If I remember from her performance in Dallas
>her family name is Chakravarty.Her brother travels with her troupe and
>introduces her.
I have a tamil friend whose last name is Chakravarty. Any way Bongs can not
prounounce the letter 'v'; they pronounce it as 'b'; ergo all bongs (hey
that is an endearment - no flames please) are Chakraborty.
Listen to the following song sung by Geeta Dutt carefully
"Gareeb Jaan Ke Hum ko Naa tum bhulaa dena
Tumhi ne dard diya hai, tumhi davaa dena"...
Geeta Dutt can not say the word "davaa", she pronounces it as "dabaa"
Nataraj NV
>her family name is Chakravarty.Her brother travels with her troupe and
>introduces her.
There was a little piece by Khushwant Singh, a long time back. It talked
about how children of mixed race parentage seem to be more beautiful. Hema's
parents apparently had rented were Khushwant Singhs property in Delhi. If I
remember right he said, her mother is Tamil and father a Panjabi.
But she is a professional dancer and has been performing Bharatanatyam. Mo,
being mo, would assume all south Indians are Tamil and Bharatanatyam is to
be seen only in Tam movies. That explains the question.
Interestingly, I don't know if Hema has ever acted in South movies. I
believe her first movie was with RK (Sapno Ka Saudagar ?). But she does have
a southie accent when speaking in English, IMO.
Enjoy,
... Nataraj
P.S. : I might not either subscribe to Singh's view on mixed race parentage
or for that matter that north and south Indians are different races.
Dragun32
I thought that Jeans was a disappointment. I did, however, like Uyire (Dil Se)
Remove 'KILLSPAM' to reply.
Newspaper Headline: "Kids make nutritious snacks."
Chetan Vinchhi
>
> Listen to the following song sung by Geeta Dutt carefully
>
> "Gareeb Jaan Ke Hum ko Naa tum bhulaa dena
> Tumhi ne dard diya hai, tumhi davaa dena"...
>
> Geeta Dutt can not say the word "davaa", she pronounces it as "dabaa"
Yeah right. And she probably pronounces -
- nanhii kalii sone chalii *habaa* dhiire aanaa
- ko_ii duur se *aabaaz* de chale aa_o
- *baqt* ne kiyaa kyaa haseen sitam
etc.
Other such hightly entertaining insights and gross
generalizations about speakers of the different languages
will be greatly appreciated.
C
Mo
Pioneer ?. I misplaced my instructions . I have the BBC
'sixth sense' a DVD which shows the supersenses that animals
have in addditon to the six we have - infrared in snakes ,
touch in fishes , magnetic in birds etc, to watch /
One VHS tape occupies more volume than 20 DVDs and assuming
that their are 500 watcheable Bollywood movies ( a generous
assumption !) just one small shelf could contain all those
DVDs . So one could have rental places opening up in all
sorts of places - roadside kiosks . The big boxes they come
in are a bit superflous and I think ordinary CD cases to
carry them about are far better , but for compact storage
they can be stacked on top of each other in stacks of 50 or
so or next to each other and dont seem to come to any harm
unlike the laser discs which tended to warp .
The BBC disc has all sorts of warnings - no moisture , no
heat exposure etc. but has anyone ever had a DVD that got
damaged by these things ?
With the number of free ISP - AOL , Compuserve etc CD Rom
flooding through the letter box its obvious that mastering
is very cheap , and once the cost comes down to less than
$15 and the machines under $200 , there is likely to be an
explosion of sales even in third world countries .
Imagine the amount of material that can be put on them -
language lessons to end illiteracy in villages , national
geographic , all school lessons , music , science topics and
all played in stereo on still frame , easy rewind etc. on
the TV . DVD is going to be a bigger revolutionary medium
than satellite or cable TV.
3rd world countries need to pour money into it to make it a
mass media item so that all homes can have them as soon as
possible ..
Deepak Sabnis
Chetan Vinchhi wrote in message <36F1247E...@lucent.com>...
Chetan,
Bongs are good at being able to pronounce the letter 'w'. They have a
problem with the letter 'v'. All examples you give should use the letter
'w'. :-) :-)
Since you ask for other insights, you seem to have a trouble between 'v' and
'w' :-)
The french can not pronounce the letter 'h';
My gujju friends pronounce the word 'wrap' as 'rape'. I better stop before I
get deeper in the hole I seem to be digging. This is meant to be fun buddy.
So chill....
deepak
nawat...@my-dejanews.com
Couldn't help jumping in. :-) Being half Bengali (my mom's Bengali), and
having lived 20 odd years in Calcutta, I guess I felt I had to say something.
First, it is true that there is no 'v' sound in Bengali. However, that does
not mean that Bengalis cannot pronounce the 'v' sound (or the 'w' sound for
that matter). You make it sound like its a physical impossibility for a
Bengali to pronounce the 'v' sound. :-) Let me assure you that it is not
true. :-) However, I will concede that Bengalis who aren't in the habit of
using Hindi on a regular basis may have problem with it. Generalizations of
any kind (including this one :-) are bad but to say that Geeta Dutt couldn't
pronounce 'davaa' is taking things into the realms of absurdity. I suppose
Hemant Kumar and Manna De also had this affliction?
As for distinguishing between the 'v' sound and the 'w' sound, both 'davaa'
and 'havaa' use 'v' in Hindi, which means that as far as pronunciation in
Hindi goes, both are pronounced the same. So how could she pronounce 'havaa'
and not 'davaa'?
Or is there a letter for 'w' in Hindi that I am unaware of? Before you raise
any questions, let me tell you that I studied Hindi as my second language, not
Bengali.
> The french can not pronounce the letter 'h';
> My gujju friends pronounce the word 'wrap' as 'rape'. I better stop before I
> get deeper in the hole I seem to be digging. This is meant to be fun buddy.
> So chill....
At least you seem to be aware of your predicament.
Pointing out pronunciation mistakes by a singer is nothing to joke about. Or
haven't you been reading about the Rafi-saaGar controversy? :-))
Nita
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Vasantharajan Janakirahan
famous Tamil director (in the olden times) sridhar did even a screen
test but she didn't get thro. I guess after that she never had any
interests in acting in tamil (after she made it big in hindi).
Hemamalini is Tamil (native place Srirangam). She even has some property
in madras-(quite poular Hemamalini kalyana mandapam).
-- vasant
..
Mo
with the VHS . For example in Satya the gangster's wife is
so used to nagging and beating him that one day when he has
had enough and slaps her one and she stares at him in
disbelief ! That look is priceless . Normally with the step
frame button you can see the blows etc. miss by a bit ,
masked by the sound added later on and that the stunts
(except for Akshay and Ajay who do their own) are done by
different people but in this movie on can clearly see that
with this slap he did make contact and the actress may have
glared at him for that reason !
DVDs are so compact and easy to transport or carry , one
can easily carry 5 discs in a coat pocket -try that with 5
VHS tapes that if the govt put in say one large screen TV
set and DVD player in each village -total cost maybe $2000
at the most then the cost for .5m villages of India would be
$1billion -really chicken feed compared to India/s $35b and
growing forex reserves .
But the impact would be enormous -first the GOI could insist
that these sets be made in India -giving economies of scale
to the manufacturers and second it could insist that they be
put in schools where the villagers could come and watch
movies , mythological serials , dances , langugae lessons at
night but they would have to watch a half hour govt DVD with
population control , agricultural tips etc .
It could eliminate illiteracy overnight and lead to a great
resurgence and pride in local languages and culture..
Mo
Well you should rent a machine from blockbusters for the
weekend and rent some of the classical ones from indiaweekly.com
The ones that have beautifully mastered are Mohra , Khalnayak, Satya ,
Soldier , Deewant Mastana ..
A lot of people look down on these movies and the songs and
dances but if you use the very slow motion on the DVD you will see
what incredible split second timing there is in the dances. In DW in
the last song you will see Juhi jump up and do a piouritte on the bed
and she follows the music perfectly . In Gharwali watch how the
Nepalese dancers in the two songs ( one has a glorious mixture of
easter island statues , mongol skulls , Punjabi Bhangra , English
mems..) ..
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 21:32:02 -0500, Niraj Agarwalla <ni...@shore.net>
wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Mo wrote:
> Have you bought a DVD player yet , what do you think of the
> pictures .
Not yet. I have gone to my friends house to see it. I have
seen the bootleg copies of HAHK and KKHH. Though I frown upon
piracy, but I was rather surprised by the better picture DVDs
offered; considering that most of my Hindi movie watching was
done through pirate video. I just hope the Hindi film industry
doesn't screw it up like they did with VHS.
Chetan Vinchhi
Deepak Sabnis wrote:
>
> Bongs are good at being able to pronounce the letter 'w'. They have a
> problem with the letter 'v'. All examples you give should use the letter
> 'w'. :-) :-)
>
> Since you ask for other insights, you seem to have a trouble between 'v' and
> 'w' :-)
Obviously. I was born and brought up in India. In the Sanskritic
languages (basically all the languages of the North), there is
no sound corresponding to the 'v' sound. As a result, many
Indians end up using 'v' and 'w' sounds interchangeably. I
remember my first summer in the US when I got lost, had to stop
to ask for directions and a cop told me that there was no Wine
St in the city but I was a couple of blocks from a Vine St.
However, all this has nothing to do with the current thread.
Here, you implied that Bongs are incapable of pronouncing the
'w' sound. I simply wanted to point out that that was not true.
Bongs do have trouble with 'w' / 'b' but if they have a fair
degree of exposure to other languages, they can cultivate the
'w' sound. As somebody else said, you only have to listen to
some of our singers from Bengal - Geeta, Manna, Hemant.
BTW, you had a good point when you said that all Bongs are
'Chakrabarty'. However, that does not mean that they or
somebody else cannot spell it 'Chakravarty'. This merely
shows the inadequacy of transliteration. The problem is
compounded when there are more than two languages involved.
Enough violation of newsgroup charters.
C
Mo
Bobby Deol , Neha
Picture quality - Disappointing
Sound -good Dolby 5.1
I have to agree with Irwin . There is shimmer on the video
which is very disappointing considering what a great job DEI
have done with Satya , Mohra , Khalnayak etc. It says Dolby
5,1 but didnt sound as clear as Satya .
Didnt do well at the box office probably because Indians
dont like the heroes to have longer hair than the heroines .
Neha looks very pretty and wears the Salwar Kameez which is
common in North India .. Bobby always says the wrong thing
when wooing her .
His father who is rich wants a huge dowry from her mother
who is poor , so Bobby steals his own fathers money and they
pay him that , which works fine till he finds out .
Its good how they have brought in all the different faiths
of India - Buddhist , Hindu , Sikh etc. into the
picture .Neha is of course a Muslim girl in real life -one I
think of only two now with Tabu in Indian films .
Songs are sung by Sanjeevini , a teen discovery on Zee's
most excellent Saregama talent show ( can be seen on
satellite in US , Africa , Europe and soon in Canada and
South America) . One of her songs - Churalo dil mera (
please steal my hear) has been translated on www.ukindia.com
lyrics page and I am sure on other web sites .
I love the sound of Sanjeevini's voice and the music of this
movie is very good . Anu Malik mentioned how Sanjeevni kept
getting a word wrong and they had to shout and scare her .
The father I think is played by Satya's Kalu Mama . Johnny
Lever is excellent . These side actors as well as Kader Khan
, Paresh Rawal are real gems of Indian cinema - incidentally
Manoj Bhajpai won best supporting actor on Zee .
The movie has an interesting twist on the get rich schemes
everyone always falls for . I have seen 'making of Kareeb'
on TV and it should have been added to the DVD -maybe the
Platinum version . Bobby mentioned how cold the lake was and
far from feeling romantic in it he wanted to get out . In
the song on the mountains Neha kept giving her right hand
for Bobby to pull her up while the Director wanted the other
one and after the umpteenth shot he got fed up and bit her
on that hand saying give him the one that is paining !
DEI really need to remaster this one , there is no excuse
for not mastering 1998 movies from the original negative ..
Dez
Mo
American address but according to Screen -March 14 - it will
be in a few months , I think June 1 in Canada and South
America proper..
Mo
classical one but ruined by Bobby's mop of a hair flying all
over the place..
assa...@idirect.com
Mo
Picture quality -excellent
Sound - very good
Salman Khan , Rambha, Jackie , Ashivini Bhave , Shweta Menon
This is a brilliant movie set in a prosperous Indian village
. Love the way the women and men wear traditional dresses
and look so glamorous . I have seen an hour of it so far and
loved every minute -great comedy throughout .
Shweta Menon looks great although her skin color is very
light , a complete change from Ishq . Subtitling is
excellent , I could spot only one mistake -when her brother
says , seeing all the landlords who have come to woo her -
they are bleating like goats do before being cut - the last
two words are left out by mistake .
The tranlator is really good and I am glad he has done it
literally although I think it sometimes can give rise to
unintentional humor as for eg. when Shweta the vamp asks the
landlord -'Whats the matter ? , you are staring at me as if
you want to eat me !' - I dont think the words mean the same
in Hindi and English !
I rented this movie from the local video store but will
certainly buy it . Its a great one to show friends..
Irwin wrote :
Bandhan (1998)- English subtitles. 165 minutes. Dolby
Digital 2 channel mono.
Starring Salman Khan, Jackie Shroff, Shweta Menon, Rambha,
Ashwini Bhave.
Video is excellent. Audio is very good.
"Bandhan" is a melodramatic and sexy film of the bonds
between brother (Khan) and sister (Bhave),
husband (Shroff) and wife (Bhave) that are tested to the
breaking point by outside forces (the stunning
Shweta Menon, who steals the movie as the seductress
Vaishali), and the struggle to maintain those
bonds.
"Bandhan" has Khan in some exciting action scenes and
features some fine songs, especially the
excellent "Tere Naina" and the risque dance by Menon of "Dil
Kis Ko." The video is an excellent, bright
transfer with few faults. It's a shame that "Bandhan" wasn't
made with 5.1 or stereo sound, yet the
mono soundtrack is very good and clear considering.
Although a box office and critical flop when released,
"Bandhan" is worth viewing on dvd for the
memorable music and interesting performances by Shroff and
Bhave, and especially for Shweta
Menon's sensuous portrayal of the "fallen woman" Vaishali.
Released by EROS/DEI.. Irwin Marin
Mo
One useful feature which those who are too poor to afford a
DVD players wont be able to take part in , is to discuss
movies and songs by mentioning the exact time the event
happens , as on a DVD there is a time display .
Some other bits worth mentioning about B is the hut where
Salman is raised - a kind of Sanyasi ( hut where people
retire to in the jungle)- really nice. I loved also the
dirty look the horse gives the vamp ! .
At 55 minutes look at the temple steps , which must be half
a mile long ascending the hills . I think what South Asian
cultures do have is an eye for beauty - vastu shastra etc.
Ordinary drab white stone temples steps have been cleverly
painted with a horizontal red stripe on the right and left
holds to give a strikingly beautiful effect . Wish the
titles would tell us where this temple is , so that people
can go and holiday there.
At 74' there is a double swing which has again been
beautified with a velvet green seat and back . Lovely .
Who is the dialog writer ? , there is an undercurrent of
humor througout .
For eg Salman's father tries to reassure his fiancee with
some Urdu shairi
'Dark clouds of sorrow will go away , the tears on your
lashes will dry , it will rain happiness ...'
And his sceptical wife interrupts him 'When will all that
happen?' and when he cant answer says' This girl is crying
her eyes out and all you can talk is nonsense ! ..
She also goes to the rich man's house and asks 'Richie rich
' to come out , actually she says something equivalent but
the translator obviously has knowledge of both American and
Indian culture and has done a fantastic job . Now for
heaven's sake do the songs and complete the job -there are
only four I think in this movie.
At 144' she uses more choice swear words - a long string .
This movie is really colorful and I just wish I had had the
chance to see it on the big screen. With such excellent
subtitiling all people will really enjoy it , Highly
recommended..
ssca...@iupui.edu
SHIT!...DONT EVER USE THE WORD POOR AGAIN..U INCONSIDERATE FUCK.....AND
BTW, BANDHAN WAS THE WORST MOVIE I HAVE EVER SEEN......I WOULD HAVE MORE
FUN SHOOTING MYSELF IN THE HEAD, THAN WATCHING THAT TORTURE
SHOW....ASSHOLE!!!
LD/DVD fan
Univeristy At Indianapols,IN, do they?
--
Richard
ssca...@iupui.edu wrote in message ...
Mo
Just loved the look and feel of this movie - art direction.
Also liked the paintings in the opening titles but they dont
say who wrote the dialog or did the art direction .
It has obviously been shot in India and not Switzerland
judging from the beautiful temples , the thick trunked trees
, with multi above the ground roots , and the superb
furniture in the Thakur's house .
The movie actors have to be very fit - many including Akshay
, Ajay and Salman do many of their own stunts -although
Salman refuses to go through a glass door as he says people
always get cut . I have actually seen a person in real life
come through a glass window - he didnt seem to come to any
harm .
Even the villains are good . Gajendra at 67 minutes when
Salman unleashes a backward Karate kick flies through the
air doing a double or triple somersault and sailing over a
vegetable cart. These well choreographed fights I find more
appealing than Kung fu which is more shouting than fighting
and is another reason these movies are so popular the world
over ..
Mo
Nobody is too poor to afford $300..
Mo
Manish Parikh
Pancham forever ,
Manish
Mo <10033...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:BbcK2.37117$Eb....@nnrp2.clara.net...
Bludhound
> Bandhan
> One useful feature which those who are too poor to afford a
> DVD players wont be able to take part in , is to discuss
> movies and songs by mentioning the exact time the event
> happens , as on a DVD there is a time display .
???? too poor to afford a DVD player? Did you invent the DVD format? Are
you receiving royalties for every DVD player sold, because all you rant and
rave about is how wonderful DVD players and DVDs are. Sure, DVDs are cool,
but are not as revolutionary as you make them out to be. Sure, LDs are
bigger, but they can also provide excellent picture and sound....and have
been out for almost 25 years. As well, many people prefer to see movies in
theaters, like myself. So in order for me to discuss a movie with you,
should I take my stopwatch to the movie?? Not everyone needs a DVD player,
and many people are living quite well without one. I am quite happy with my
LD player, for I can still get all the English movies I want, with Dolby
Digital sound and excellent picture......so why would I need to buy a DVD
player? I holding out on a DVD player until rental of movies is more
widespread.....when Blockbuster starts renting them. By the way, DVDs are
easily scratched and according to several Blockbuster managers and video
store owners, are not as durable as LDs. I can go to my local library and
rent 7000 LDs for free...so why would I want a DVD player?????? Please,
please stop your pro-DVD rant, we know how much you like them....statements
such as you have made in your post are not going to win you new fans.
One more thing....DO NOT CROSSPOST into irrelevant newsgroups!!!! It's BAD
netiquette and if people want to read about Indian movies, they know where
to go.
Annoyed,
-BH
Mo
Mo
>r I can still get all the English movies I want with LD , with Dolby
Digital sound and excellent picture......so why would I need
to buy a DVD<
strain your back carrying them..
Mo
The dialog is by Anwar Khan and it is superb . One thing
that is surprising is that these writers are able to convey
the language in Hindu temple rites and festivals so well .
At 27' there is a great striptease kind of dance by Shweta
Menon . Its almost as good as the one in Mrityudand . I dont
think the villages in India have these tent covered dances
where all the men are seated round the raised dias platform
- a bit like the male striptease shows in Las Vegas - only
on a much bigger scale . It is something that villages could
copy from Bollywood if only to reverse the migration to
towns. These movies make the culture as much as they show
it.
The background score is very good and tugs at the emotions -
something that is missing in Arzoo . The yellow and red
mixtures that Rambha wears is also very eye catching..