A.R.Rahman's inspirations
RaviKrishna
This is a crap posted from http://www.tfmpage.com. It is one of the most biased
discussion forum, where the only agenda seems to be to bash ARR at any cost.
All the copied elements mentioned below is grossly exaggerated, sometimes even
blatant lies.
I myself don't rate ARR highly, but this sort of bashing is unfair.
Ravi Krishna.
In article <6nhe7h$ioe$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, cool...@my-dejanews.com says...
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> 1. "Chinna Chinna Aasai" - Based on Nusery Rhymes by Linda
>Seager(sweden)
> The cassette is available in Chennai.
> And the music score is no different from Jamaican Reggae. There 100
>songs like this in Jamaica.
> (FYI - I am currently in Caribbean Island). ARR
> Rustic Humming makes the difference in the song.
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> 2. "Rukumani Rukumani" Humming lifetd from-The Profiler (English Rock
>band Group)
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> 3."Pudhuthu Vellai Malai" - BEAT is a copy of Car Commericial (more
>than one).
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> 4. "Tamila Tamila" - The Lead piece sounds like
> one of the Bryan Adam song. I am not sure (HELP!). A similair piece
>comes as BGM in Gentleman. The scene is when ARJUN's MAKE_UP clothes are
>shown in
> top of the hill.
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> 5. "July matham vanthal" - Th Guitar piece is
> Direct lift from Khaleed song Thilabee... Thilaybe..( AIBUM DiDi)
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> 6. "Kaadhalikum pennin kaikal thotu.."(Kaadhalan)- A direct lift from
>IR song "Poovin meethu theenai alli" from December Pookkal or January
>Pookkal. ARR
> made IR's violin as a Humming....(famous)and altered the tune little
>bit with ARR flavour.
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> 7. "Muqala.. Muqabula.." - Starts with For few dollars more
>orchestration and the BELL sound of
> Good Bad and Ugly. A tune and BEAT based on
> IR's "Yeee.. Unnai thanney, Nee Entha ooru.. Enodu Aadu.." FILM:Kaadhal
>parusu. The BEAT is almost same with ARR flavour.
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> Then song turns into typicall RD BURMAN mode and
> stays there.After the end of vocal and when animation starts, there
>comes BEAT of Samantha FOX(Album: Satisfaction), Then tranform directly to
>DR. Alban
> BEATS of Matha O..Ya..Ae Oh.... and ends with it.
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> Somebody saying in some thread about Multiple Inheritance of DEVA. Wow!
>This song is Excellent Example Mutilple Inheritance of ARR (GREAT!!)
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> 8. "Ithu sugam.. sugam.."- vani Jairam, Film: Vandi chollai sinarasu.
> Orchestration based on IR song "yemm theba thasavuraa..." Film:
>Ashwamedham (Telugu).ARR never forgets to add his flavour.
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> 9. "Putham Pudthu bhoomi" - Car commerical for Volkswagen
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> 10. "Thenmerku paruva kattru" - BEAT and Squibble
> sound from Dr. Alban's ONE LOVE.
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> 11. "Kaduu.. pootta Kadu.." -Sung by BharathiRaja the start music is
>again from Dr. Alban (ONE LOVE) rustic african sound.
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> 12. "Palghatu machanuku pattuna..." from May matham. I heard this tune
>some where couldn't find till now. Long standing mystery for me.
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> 13. "Super Police.." (Teluge movie) BEAT directly lifted from Dr. Alban
>Matha O..Ya..Ae Oh.... Here ARR didn't moderate as he did in muqala..
>muqabula..
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> 14. "Telephone manipol..." - INDIAN, The Second interlude (rustic fulte
>like) is from ENIGMA.
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> 15. "No problem.. " sung by ApacheIndian is directly lifted from
>Caribbean band SQUARE-ONE, with as usual small changes.
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> 16. "Yedu da..antha suriya mellam" - BEAT based
> on BONEY M Album: Booonooonooous.
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> 17. "Venilavay Venilavaee.." -(Minsara Kanuvu)
> The Music, sound , Humming all based on Boney M song "The African Moon"
>Album: Booonooonoous. It was first lifted by RD Burman. He already
>customized it
> for INDIAN audience(its a Amitabh Film). So it was easy for ARR to
>improvise??. So it became "The INDIAN moon" (Vennila, Chanda) Interesting
>Isn't it??.
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> Apart from all these ARR has Here and there is DR. Alban touch in
>kaadhal desam and KennyG in Duet.
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>-nanban
> Mukkabla (Kaathalan) - Jam(Dangerous) by MJ, Dr. Alban's Matha
>O..Y..Ae(One Love!)
> Bombay Theme music - Wyaat Earp
> Thillana Thillana (Muthu) - Deep Forest(African Tribal rhythms). This
>has also been "used" in Island of Dr.Moreau music.
> Kuluvaalile(Muthu) - Background loop of "Rescue me"(Supremes?), Sister
>Act song(guitar piece), Bunyan song, Like A Virgin(Madonna).
> Telephone manipol...sona sona(indian) - All that she wants is just
>another baby(Ace of base)
> Paakaathe paakaathe(Gentleman) - Killele killele(Osibisa)
> Puthu vellai mazhai (Roja) - Chariots of Fire Theme music
> Chikku bukku chikku bukku rayilu (Gentleman) - British Airways
>Commercial
> Thanneerai kaathalikkum(Mr.Romeo) - Madonna song?
> Mangta hai kya (Rangeela) - Devil inside(INXS)
> Ennai kaanavillaye(kaadhal desam) - Enigma (MCMXC AD)
> Mellisaye - A Few dollars more Theme.
> Malargale malargale - Storms in Africa(Enya's watermark)
> Maargazhi poove(May maatham) - Enigma tune
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>Mere sari - kabhi na kabhi - scoroborough faire
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Ken
Expanding the definition for inspirations just a wee bit:
<insert A.R.Rahman song here> is copied from <insert western source here>
because it is in the same 20-20,000Hz frequency band.
Hemlata N Khemani
:)) that's a good one.
Talking of Rahman, I personally found his entire Jeans album inspired.
There are instances in songs when I think he's inspired by some Rafi song
or some RD song or even some Nadeem Shravan song, but can't really place
it. It's almost in the sense as "hamne dekhi hai in aankhon ki mahakti
khushboo.." Would that be what "intelligent inspiration" is, if there is
such a term that is? In any case, Rahman's music is to be felt and enjoyed
as it is.
Hema.
Alibabu40
A. R. Rahman is at a higher level than most of the 90's music directors. I
don't believe he copies off of other's music, just by listening to it you can
feel that teh music is original and creative. There's a certain trademark that
he inserts in every one of his songs, just like the great ones before have,
like O.P. Nayyar, Naushad, S.D. Burman, and R.D Burman. Rahman belongs to this
group. It's hard to reference music by N-S, Anu Malik, and A-M, just by
listening to the their music because they are all alike, there's no
individuality among those three.
What do you define inspiration as? Well the indian way is to copy directly
like how Nadeem Sharvan, Anu Malik, and Anand Miland do. Let's look at the
REAL definition.
Inspiration: A stimulus to creativity in thought
THIS DOES NOT MEAN TO COPY, BECAUSE COPYING IS NOT CREATIVITY.
I think some people think that ARR gets "inspired" by english music is because
he uses the latest technology, but those people fail to feel and understand the
tune and rhythm of the music.
thanks
ali syed
sjag...@my-dejanews.com
> What do you define inspiration as? Well the indian way is to copy directly
> like how Nadeem Sharvan, Anu Malik, and Anand Miland do. Let's look at the
> REAL definition.
Last I checked, AR Rahman was as Indian as _ANY_ of the music directors
mentioned in your post.
jagadish
Pankaj Kakkar
> he inserts in every one of his songs, just like the great ones before have,
> like O.P. Nayyar, Naushad, S.D. Burman, and R.D Burman. Rahman belongs to this
> group. It's hard to reference music by N-S, Anu Malik, and A-M, just by
> listening to the their music because they are all alike, there's no
> individuality among those three.
Actually this is not true. N-S have their trademark string rolls and
crescendos, and Anu Malik has his trademark slow, lazy, empty beats
(more prevelant these days than before) and a couple other details that
I can't really put into words. It sounds dubious, but these guys manage
to put their trademark stamp even on copied songs. Anything that sounds
different from these two but is still either copied or unmelodic I
attribute to A-M :).
Vishal is another composer with distinctive melodies. Jatin-Lalit too
are pretty much identifiable. The ones that I haven't gotten a hang of
yet (and maybe this is because I haven't heard too much of them) are
composers like Dilip Sen-Sameer Sen and Uttam Singh.
> I think some people think that ARR gets "inspired" by english music is because
> he uses the latest technology, but those people fail to feel and understand the
> tune and rhythm of the music.
There are definitely snitches in many Rahman songs which sound almost
exactly like other Western classics I've heard (and I'm a Rahmaniac, so
don't flame me bhai :). For example, in the title song of "Daud", the
refrain is suspiciously like "If I were a rich man" from "Fiddler on the
Roof". (I will dismiss this as another instance of the Mozart-Salil rule
: every good composer borrows from every other good composer a few times
:-) ) But to compare the prelude of "Bharat hamko ..." to the prelude of
"Look into my eyes" (which the original poster did) is sheer ignorance
and wishful thinking.
Or maybe this depends on how one looks at it!
Pankaj
hima...@yahoo.com
alib...@aol.com (Alibabu40) wrote:
> well said HEMA,
>
> A. R. Rahman is at a higher level than most of the 90's music directors. I
> don't believe he copies off of other's music, just by listening to it you can
that
> he inserts in every one of his songs, just like the great ones before have,
> like O.P. Nayyar, Naushad, S.D. Burman, and R.D Burman. Rahman belongs to
this
> group. It's hard to reference music by N-S, Anu Malik, and A-M, just by
> listening to the their music because they are all alike, there's no
> individuality among those three.
>
> like how Nadeem Sharvan, Anu Malik, and Anand Miland do. Let's look at the
> REAL definition.
>
>
> THIS DOES NOT MEAN TO COPY, BECAUSE COPYING IS NOT CREATIVITY.
>
> he uses the latest technology, but those people fail to feel and understand
the
> tune and rhythm of the music.
>
> ali syed
>
I completely agree with you!!!!!