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Kammu

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Oct 18, 2009, 10:50:38 AM10/18/09
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I was looking for songs welcoming a newborn into the family .
A friend suggested a chorus from film Ek din ka Sultan
' meri banri ki godh hari '
I did not understand the meaning of the song .
What does Banri mean ?
Is it Hari or Bhari ?
Is it an appropriate song for the occasion ?
Are there any good songs befitting the occasion ?

BTW - I could not locate the song on the net .
Pl. help if it is available online .

Kammu


UVR

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Oct 18, 2009, 2:33:15 PM10/18/09
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"banri" is a colloquial way of saying "banni" which means bride,
daughter, kanyaa (Hindi), etc.

I can't be sure but I think 'meri banri ki god bhari' is not a song
that refers directly to childbirth or welcoming the newborn. It's
more likely that it's referring to the ritual known as 'god bharaai'
that's part of the prenuptial ceremonies. The ritual itself is most
probably derived from fertility rituals, but in and of itself it does
not refer to the woman being with child (pregnant) or having delivered
one.

-UVR.

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 18, 2009, 2:50:38 PM10/18/09
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UVR wrote:


This, in all probability, is a "god~bharaaii" song.

But "god~bharaaii" is NOT considered a prenuptioal ceremony.
When a girl, AFTER marriage, becomes pregnant, then the
relatives perform this ceremony. An example from our movies
would be "Miss Mary" (1957), where Meena Kumari's "god~bharaaii"
ceremony is shown in detail.


Afzal

abbasi

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Oct 18, 2009, 3:52:19 PM10/18/09
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Another example of God Bharaai from Filhaal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID1tCyNtJt4

Vijay

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Oct 18, 2009, 5:52:22 PM10/18/09
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I think 'god harii/god bhari' both may refer to a girl becoming
pregnant, rather than having delivered a child. Could be wrong though.
It certainly has to do with having or expecting a child.

Vijay

Kammu

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:56:46 PM10/18/09
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Thanks all of you - UVR , Afzal Khan , Abbasi and Vijay .
I understand that the song under reference does not suit the
occasion .
Please advise a suitable song celeberarting the birth of a baby in the
family .

k

irfan

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Oct 18, 2009, 11:54:12 PM10/18/09
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Is it a boy or a girl ?

Regards,

Irfan

Abhay Phadnis

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Oct 19, 2009, 1:03:38 AM10/19/09
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If a boy: "janam liyo lalanaa" ('Godaan', Asha, Anjaan, Ravi Shankar)

If a girl: "mere ghar aa_ii ek nanhii parii" ('Kabhi Kabhie', Lata,
Sahir, Khayyam)

Warm regards,
Abhay

Kammu

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:25:03 AM10/19/09
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Mr Irfan - It's a boy .
Pl. advise suitably with your vast knowledge .

Regards ,
k

Kammu

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:26:51 AM10/19/09
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It's a lovely song Abhay-Ji , but it's a boy .
Can you think of something else .

Regards ,
k

irfan

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:49:56 AM10/19/09
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There was a song from film Zindagi by Lata -
ik naye mehman ke aane ki khaber hai
I haven't seen the film and have not heard this
song for a very long time.

Regards,

Irfan

Kammu

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Oct 19, 2009, 12:55:40 PM10/19/09
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Many thanks Mr Irfan . Pl. do let me know others
when you happen to recollect .

Regards ,
k

kcp

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Oct 19, 2009, 2:40:42 PM10/19/09
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Initial part of the song : Ghoongar waale baal - Chalti ka naam
zindagi ( sung by eunuchs though )

Balaji Murthy

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Oct 19, 2009, 2:58:30 PM10/19/09
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There is a beautiful song in Bhabhi Ki Chudiyaan sung on the birth of
a son to Shailesh & Seema Dev

meraa nanhaa kanhaiyaa ghar aaya re

- Balaji

monbhai

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Oct 19, 2009, 6:04:50 PM10/19/09
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Oct 19, 2009, 6:07:15 PM10/19/09
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monbhai

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Amir Bai Karnataki in 1943 film Ram Rajaya
Aao ri suhagan, nari mangal gao.

Kammu

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:12:52 PM10/19/09
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Thanks Monbhai - is the song available on the net ?

Regards ,
k

Kammu

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Oct 19, 2009, 8:15:20 PM10/19/09
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Thanks Mr Balaji . I will search for it on the net ,
and try my luck .

Regards ,
k

UVR

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Oct 19, 2009, 11:16:27 PM10/19/09
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Afzal saahib,

There is a ceremony called 'god bharaai' in the prenuptials rituals
also: http://www.iloveindia.com/indian-traditions/godh-bharai.html

-UVR.

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 20, 2009, 12:08:54 AM10/20/09
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UVR Saheb,

I am grateful for the information. However, this pre-nuptial
"god~bharaaii" ceremony is observed amongst our Hindu brethren,
as per the above website. The film "Ek Din Ka Sultan" is set
in Mughal times. It has been more than 60 years since I saw
the film. So I don't quite recollect the situation in which
the above song occurs in the film. Lastly, I don't think the
original querist was looking for a "god~bharaaii" song as part
of any pre-nuptial ceremonies.


Afzal

Chetan Vinchhi

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Oct 20, 2009, 1:57:31 AM10/20/09
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On Oct 19, 3:26 pm, Kammu <kami...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>     It's a lovely song Abhay-Ji , but it's a boy .
> Can you think of something else .

A couple of songs that come to mind:

- cha.nda se hogaa wo pyaaraa (a rare PBSreenivas Hindi song!). This
is not entirely appropriate since the song talks above the expected
birth of a child, but it is a lovely song and may fit your needs.

- pyaaraa hamaaraa munnaa (Sansar).

C

Kammu

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Oct 20, 2009, 5:46:34 AM10/20/09
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UVR Sir , this does not fit the occasion .
k

Kammu

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Oct 20, 2009, 5:50:38 AM10/20/09
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Someone who had seen the movie told me
that it is to celeberate the birth of a child , in this case
( Humayun )
Can any RMIM'er kindly confirm and share the song if they have .
Will be really grateful .

k

Kammu

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Oct 20, 2009, 6:12:03 AM10/20/09
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Afzal Saheb , found the song on Prof's page , listen and confirm
please .
http://hindi-films-songs.com/ekdinkasultan.html

Regards ,
Kammu

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 20, 2009, 11:20:02 AM10/20/09
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> Afzal Saheb , found the song on Prof's page , listen and confirm


> please .
> http://hindi-films-songs.com/ekdinkasultan.html
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> Regards ,
> Kammu


I heard the song, which sort of rekindled old hazy memories.
It is clearly a song AFTER the birth of the child. Also,
the sentiments expressed at the beginning of the song were
quite progressive, not merely in respect of the time-period
depicted in the film, but also in respect of the relatively
modern period when the film was made, i.e. the 1940's. At
that time, and even today, people prefer a male child. Apart
from other considerations, I have never been able to under-
stand why people forget that without females, increase in
progeny is not possible.

To sum up, I feel that it is a post-nuptial and post-natal
song, celebrating the birth of a male child.

Also, the word in the first line is "hari". This phrase-cum-
prayer is very common in Urdu/hindi --- "Teri god hari rahe" OR
"Allah teri god hari rakhe".


Afzal

Kammu

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Oct 20, 2009, 12:13:23 PM10/20/09
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Many thanks Afzal Saheb ,
Can you kindly let me know
the exact words
used by the group of ladies announcing the birth of the child .
The dialogue goes in like this - sarkaar , sarkaar , sarkaar - - - - -
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later part I could not follow / understand .

Very nice song indeed even after 60 plus years .

Warm regards ,
k

Neha Desai

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Oct 21, 2009, 1:28:37 AM10/21/09
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There are few songs referring to male child, though not "welcoming
him"... :)

1. pyara hamara munna nainon ka taara
2. chanda se hoga wo pyaara (again before birth)
3. chanda hai tu mera suraj hai tu
4. munna bada pyaara ammi ka dularaa

--
Neha

Kammu

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Oct 21, 2009, 9:33:34 AM10/21/09
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I think among most hindu's it is not customery
to have a celeberation immediately after a child is born .
The first celeberation is probably the cradle ceremony / jhoola /
naming ceremony and hence no songs / occasionally a song
appeared in movies .

k

pathi...@gmail.com

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Dec 11, 2013, 3:01:48 PM12/11/13
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Aavori suhagan nari mangal f gavori, janak dulari ki god bharao ri
This song is from film ram rajya
God bharai ceremony is performed on seven month of pregnancy

pathi...@gmail.com

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