Kabhi Kabhi: trivia
V S Rawat वी एस रावत
Shola aur Shabnam, Futpath, Phir subah hogi, shagun during
50s and 60s, but he did not taste commercial success.
Due to strained financial condition of the family, he had to
shift his residence from posh Colaba to Juhu.
Yash Chopra had decided to take Khayyam as Music Director
for his film kabhi kabhi (1976). But he could not find his
address. All he came to know that he is residing somewhere
in Juhu.
When no more information came along, he and Sahir hopped
into a car and started driving on all the streets of entire
Juhu area.
Then, they saw Jagjit Kaur, wife of Khayyam, buying
vegetables from a shop.
That is how they could locate Khayyam. And Kabhi Kabhi, the
film as well as its music, changed life of everybody
associated with it.
Khayyam, then, gave music in Yash Chopra's Trishul, Nakhudaa
and Noorii also.
But, then a day came when Yash Chopra had to tell Khayyam
that distributors are declining to finance the film if music
is given by Khayyam.
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"kabhii kabhii mere dil me.n Kayaal aataa hai" was an old
nazm written by Sahir. Yash Chopra used to like it a lot so
he had decided to include it, as a song, in this film.
Khayyam composed the music and mukesh was selected to sing
the song. Mukesh, too, was very much excited about singing
this song.
By the twist of fate, just one day before the song was to be
recorded, Mukesh had a heart attack and was hospitalized.
Doctor advised him absolute bed arrest for days if he has to
recover.
On hearing the news of Mukesh's attack, Yash had already
decided to get the song sung by Amitabh Bachchan.
Then, Yash and Khayyam went to the hospital to see Mukesh,
but before they could say or ask anything, Mukesh pleaded to
them "film ke baakii gaane bhale hii kisii aur se gavaa
lenaa magar ye gaanaa mujhase hii gavaanaa. #Please# meraa
intazaar karanaa.
Both were stunned that even in such a stage of health,
Mukesh is not worried about himself and was thinking about
the song. They were touched. Yash promised Mukesh that he
will wait for him to sing this song, and fulfilled his
promise. Mukesh eventually sang the song.
Amitabh sang for a Yash film in Silsila, under the music
direction of Shiv Hari.
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jyotiprakasguha
Jyotiprkash Guha
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"jyotiprakasguha" <jyotipr...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is this Jagjit Kaur the singer of yesteryears?
Yes. that's right.
lt
> Jyotiprkash Guha
>
jyotiprakasguha
jyoti prakash Guha
naniwadekar
"V S Rawat wrote -
>
> Due to strained financial condition of the family, he had to
> shift his residence from posh Colaba to Juhu.
>
> Yash Chopra had decided to take Khayyam as Music Director
> for his film kabhi kabhi (1976). But he could not find his
> address. All he came to know that he is residing somewhere
> in Juhu.
>
> When no more information came along, he and Sahir hopped
> into a car and started driving on all the streets of entire
> Juhu area.
>
Hridaynath not knowing Asha's address and taking Kashmir
to Kanyakumari train hoping to find her somewhere ...
Sachin Tendulkar not knowing India were due to play
a Test match in Mumbai but turning up with his daughter
just on the day at the Stadium to teach her cricket ...
Yash Chopra and Sahir driving on Juhu's streets to find
a well-known personality like Khayyam ...
Rawat, where do you pick up these asinine stories? Please
go to Agra's mental hospital, request them to inject
a powerful dose of common sense up your ass, and
charge the bill to rmim's credit card.
- dn
V S Rawat वी एस रावत
> Is this Jagjit Kaur the singer of yesteryears?
> Jyotiprkash Guha
>
yes Guha Saheb!
They are husband and wife, duly wed.
I think her voice was in kabhii kabhii also, in the lata
song "kisakii Kaatir hai kisake liye hai" that goes in
background during casting when rakhi was getting dressed up
for the marriage.
That probably was her last mark on audios.
I am not able to recall if Jagjit had given voice to any
MD other than her hubby.
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In the recent "ujaale unakii yaado.n ke", Khayyam recounts
meeting her the first time. I am fitting the story around
what little I recall of that.
He had gone somewhere to attend some program and saw her
there and was attracted. But he could not even meet her or
talk to her. He came back thinking it is over before starting.
Then, after a few months, a friend told him that some singer
(or MD) has come to do some program. He suggested to go to
meet her, and they went.
Khayyam says "wo yahii thii.n". and laughs shyly.
It developed into love and then marriage.
Khayyam is all praise for his wife. He openly said that some
of his tunes were composed by her, and, more often than not,
it is she who looks after most of the arrangements for the
recording.
Whenever Khayyam felt down due to ups and downs of his
career, she energised him by her support.
That should make one of the most satisfied and happy pair in
the filmdom.
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Khayyam being a muslim, if she has continued to use her
punjabi name, it might mean that she is continuing to
practice her religion. This is another high mark of their
love and understanding.
Probably, Chambal Kii Qasam of 80s was last movie by
Khayyam. It is so sad that even after succefully re-rising
like the fabled Icarus, he disappeared again.
--
Rawat
V S Rawat वी एस रावत
Nani,
Say with me three times: "trivia is just any information. It
need not be as meaningful as puraan or geeta."
The only effect is that these can make a reader pause for a
second thinking "what if they could not have located
Khayyam" or "what if Amitabh had rendered mere dil me.n
khayaal aataa hai."
--
Rawat
>
> - dn
Abhay Phadnis
¨× ¦ŽŚ¬" <VSRawat_...@hclinfinet.com> wrote:
> I think her voice was in kabhii kabhii also, in the lata
> song "kisakii Kaatir hai kisake liye hai" that goes in
> background during casting when rakhi was getting dressed up
> for the marriage.
>
> That probably was her last mark on audios.
No; she sang in "Baazaar" ('dekh lo aaj ham ko') which was way after "Kabhi
Kabhie".
> Khayyam being a muslim, if she has continued to use her
> punjabi name, it might mean that she is continuing to
> practice her religion. This is another high mark of their
> love and understanding.
Here we go again! Is it too much trouble to remember that 'Punjabi' and
'Muslim' are NOT mutually exclusive groups?
> Probably, Chambal Kii Qasam of 80s was last movie by
No; both "Umrao Jaan" and "Baazaar" came after "Chambal ki Kasam".
Warm regards,
Abhay
Vinayak K.Gore
> jyotiprakasguha wrote:
>
> > >
> I am not able to recall if Jagjit had given voice to any
> MD other than her hubby.
>
"khaamosh zindagii ko ek afasaanaa mil gayaa" (solo) and "mohabbat ki
dhun bekaraaro.n se puuchho" (with Talat and Sudha Malhotra)
Vinayak
Cricfan
>
> Yash Chopra and Sahir driving on Juhu's streets to find
> a well-known personality like Khayyam ...
>
It is not uncommon. The remaining group members of Shakti could not
locate L. Shankar! Zakir gave a few interviews where he mentioned
that.
From Down Beat magazine, Oct. 2002
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Remember Shakti appeared to be a momentary diversion for McLaughlin,
who was devoting his energies in 1997-98 to his jazz-rock group, The
Heart of Things. But the reunion reignited his passion for the group,
and in 1999 Remember Shakti was back for a world tour. Percussion
wizard V. Selvaganesh replaced his father, Vinayakram. Unable to
locate Shankar, who was in Africa at the time, McLaughlin and Hussain
brought in U. Shrinivas, an unassuming electric mandolin player with
other-worldly chops.
"I wanted to play with Shrinivas for a long time," McLaughlin says. "I
saw him when he was 12 years old in 1986. I saw this 12-year-old kid
playing electric mandolin—not an Indian classical instrument, and it's
plugged into a Fender Twin Reverb. That blew my mind, and then he
started to play—there was an amazing sentiment. He's a prodigy and he
hasn't stopped developing." Selvaganesh and Shrinivas lit fires under
the old masters, who in turn cut loose, pulling out some of their own
tricks. With the intensity turned up several notches, Mclaughlin's
playing has been his most fierce in years. When he duels with
Shrinivas or when the two play complex extended passages in unison
with amazing precision, audiences are awed.
"Shrinivas has developed a brand new technique of playing that is
phenomenal in terms of fluidity of expression," McLaughlin says. "He
is not bending strings. The strings are quite rigid on the instrument
He does everything in a vertical manner. He's coming out of the
Karnatic classical school, but it's very much his own style because he
created the style on electric mandolin. And I have my own way, but the
sound of the two instruments, I really love to hear them together."
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Arun
Asif
music:
1. Yash Chopra reportedly said (I think I read in Filmfare in the
'70s) that he was so much inspired by Sahir's nazm 'Kabhi kabhi mere
dil mein' that he weaved a tale of two broken hearts out of it and
decided to film it. In fact, his tale also was inspired by Sahir's
personal life (only one broken heart here - Amrita Preetam and Sudha
Malhotra lived happily ever after all). It is another matter that Pam
Chopra turned this tale into a sphagetti - from Amitabh/Raakhee/Shashi
to Amitabh/Waheeda, Waheeda/Neetu, Amitabh/Waheeda/Naseem/Neetu,
Neetu/Rishi, Neetu/Rishi/Naseem, Rishi/Naseem, Simi/Parikshit/Neetu.
But I must say the film would not have been such a big hit without the
youthful romance of Rishi and Neetu in it and those lovely songs on
them.
2. So the title song was not simply another song in the film. The
film itself was inspired by this nazm.
3. When Yash conceived the film during the making of Daag (1973), he
wanted only Raakhee to play the lead role. Rajesh Khanna would play
the role that Amitabh finally did. But Raahkee soon retired from
films, so Yash, as he said in the same interview in Filmfare, shelved
the film because he could not imagine any other actress in the lead
role.
4. Luckily, Raakhee decided to come back to films in 1974 (after a
short-lived marriage with Gulzar) and so Yash quickly signed her for
Kabhi Kabhie. I also read somewhere that media blamed Yash for the
breakup of Raakhee-Gulzar marriage though I do not believe it.
5. One day Yash visited Rajesh Khanna on the sets of Prem Kahani
(1975) to discuss the film with him. There he discovered that Prem
Kahani had the similar storyline as Kabhi Kabhi (yes it does) and
suspected Rajesh Khanna stole the story. So he immediately told him
'so you chose your director (Raj Khosla), fine! I will choose my hero
(Amitabh Bachchan)'. Thus Amitabh stepped in.
6. As for Khayyam-Yash parting, I read that Yash liked Rajesh
Roshan's youthful music in Doosra Aadmi (1977) more than Khayyam's
sublime melodies so he chose Rajesh Roshan in Kala Patthar (1979).
This is how Khayyam and Yash parted though Khayyam was very much there
in Yash's Nakhuda (1980). I do not believe their parting had anything
to do with distributors. Rajesh Roshan parted with Yash because of
diagreement over Roshan's fees and other matters. Thus Shiv Hari came
in.
Asif
V S Rawat ?? ?? ???? <VSRawat_...@hclinfinet.com> wrote in message news:<2rnld2F...@uni-berlin.de>...
yeskay
>There is more that I know about the making of Kabhi Kabhie and its
>music:
>
>1. Yash Chopra reportedly said (I think I read in Filmfare in the
>'70s) that he was so much inspired by Sahir's nazm 'Kabhi kabhi mere
>dil mein' that he weaved a tale of two broken hearts out of it and
>decided to film it. In fact, his tale also was inspired by Sahir's
>personal life (only one broken heart here - Amrita Preetam and Sudha
>Malhotra lived happily ever after all). It is another matter that Pam
>Chopra turned this tale into a sphagetti - from Amitabh/Raakhee/Shashi
>to Amitabh/Waheeda, Waheeda/Neetu, Amitabh/Waheeda/Naseem/Neetu,
>Neetu/Rishi, Neetu/Rishi/Naseem, Rishi/Naseem, Simi/Parikshit/Neetu.
>But I must say the film would not have been such a big hit without the
>youthful romance of Rishi and Neetu in it and those lovely songs on
>them.
>
>
You forgot Amitabh/Rishi and Shashi/Rakhee/Rishi.