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Afzal A. Khan

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Jun 20, 2002, 12:46:32 PM6/20/02
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It is learnt from Indian newspaper reports that Naseem Bano,
famous leading lady of the thirties and forties passed away
in Bandra, Bombay at 11.25 p.m. on the 19th June. May her
soul rest in peace. She was 86. She was the daughter of
Abdul Waheed Khan, Nawab of Hasanpur. Born in Delhi, she
studied in Queen Marys. She had been married to Mr. Mohammed
Ahsan. Saira Bano, the "Beauty Queen" of the sixties is her
daughter. Naseem was Dilip Kumar's mother-in-law. Some three
years back, her mother Shamshad Begum had passed away.

Amongst her notable films, mention should be made of "Pukar",
"Sheesh Mahal", "Anokha Pyaar" etc.


Afzal

Abhay Jain

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Jun 21, 2002, 7:44:36 AM6/21/02
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"Afzal A. Khan" <il_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> It is learnt from Indian newspaper reports that Naseem Bano,
> famous leading lady of the thirties and forties passed away
> in Bandra, Bombay at 11.25 p.m. on the 19th June. May her
> soul rest in peace. She was 86. She was the daughter of
> Abdul Waheed Khan, Nawab of Hasanpur. Born in Delhi, she
> studied in Queen Marys. She had been married to Mr. Mohammed
> Ahsan. Saira Bano, the "Beauty Queen" of the sixties is her
> daughter. Naseem was Dilip Kumar's mother-in-law. Some three
> years back, her mother Shamshad Begum had passed away.
>
>
> Afzal

I am confused by the last sentence. Shamshad Begum was who's mother?

Abhay


Alok

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Jun 21, 2002, 8:04:18 AM6/21/02
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In article <ClEQ8.38893$Na1.1...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Abhay Jain
wrote:

>
> "Afzal A. Khan" <il_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3D1206E8...@yahoo.com...
>>
>>
>> It is learnt from Indian newspaper reports that Naseem Bano,
>> famous leading lady of the thirties and forties passed away in
>> Bandra, Bombay at 11.25 p.m. on the 19th June. May her soul rest
>> in peace. She was 86. She was the daughter of Abdul Waheed Khan,
>> Nawab of Hasanpur. Born in Delhi, she studied in Queen Marys.
>> She had been married to Mr. Mohammed Ahsan. Saira Bano, the
>> "Beauty Queen" of the sixties is her daughter. Naseem was Dilip
>> Kumar's mother-in-law. Some three years back, her mother Shamshad
>> Begum had passed away.
>
> I am confused by the last sentence. Shamshad Begum was who's mother?

Since there are only two possibilities (Dilip Kumar or Naseem Bano), I
think it should be Naseem Bano ;)

This is from http://www.indianmelody.com/shamshadarticle1.htm

Shamshad Begum, the nasal voiced legendary classical and playback singer
of yesteryears died in Mumbai on August 10, 1998. She was nearly a 100
years old. Shamshad Begum was the mother of the silver screen
heart-throb of the black-and-white era Naseem Bano and grandmother of
heroine Saira Bano (wife of Dilip Kumar).

-Alok
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naniwadekar

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Jun 21, 2002, 11:58:33 AM6/21/02
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The following post was meant for rmim. Thanks to Alok's
creativity, silly jokes and all, it went to ramli. Re-posting.

"Alok" <ganda...@rediffmail.com> wrote -

Shamshad Begum, the classical singer, who was Naseem Bano's mother
and Shamshad Begum, the playback singer, are two different women.
Shamshad the classical singer was also known as Chhamia. Do a search
on rmim archives. The mix-up between two Shamshads has been discussed
before. Shamshad Begum, who sang in Khazanchi, CID, et al, is still alive.
AFAIK Shamshad the classical singer never sang for any film.

Naseem Bano did not act in any film named 'Anokha Pyar'.
Afzal sahab probably meant to write 'Anokhi Ada'. Naseem Bano
has sung Hindi film songs, mostly the ones filmed on herself. Was she
ever asked to playback? I doubt it.

Naseem Bano, Naseem Akhtar and Naseem Begum are three different
women. If any periodical doesn't get this correct, just ignore it.

- dn


Alok

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Jun 21, 2002, 11:31:17 PM6/21/02
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In article <J2IQ8.29162$EP.2803@sccrnsc03>, naniwadekar wrote:
> The following post was meant for rmim. Thanks to Alok's
> creativity, silly jokes and all, it went to ramli. Re-posting.

Creativity? Silly jokes? If one posts something to more than one group,
it is netiquette to set "Followup To:" headers.

Note: since it is plain that you read RMIM and I read RAMLI, I haven't
set "Followup To" this time.

> "Alok" <ganda...@rediffmail.com> wrote -
>> In article <ClEQ8.38893$Na1.1...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, Abhay Jain
>> wrote:
>>> I am confused by the last sentence. Shamshad Begum was who's mother?
>>
>> Since there are only two possibilities (Dilip Kumar or Naseem Bano), I
>> think it should be Naseem Bano ;)
>>
>> This is from http://www.indianmelody.com/shamshadarticle1.htm
>>
>> Shamshad Begum, the nasal voiced legendary classical and playback singer
>> of yesteryears died in Mumbai on August 10, 1998. She was nearly a 100
>> years old. Shamshad Begum was the mother of the silver screen
>> heart-throb of the black-and-white era Naseem Bano and grandmother of
>> heroine Saira Bano (wife of Dilip Kumar).
>>
> Shamshad Begum, the classical singer, who was Naseem Bano's mother
> and Shamshad Begum, the playback singer, are two different women.

I am sorry for that mix-up. Should have spent more time researching
before replying. Thanks for correcting me.

<snip>

-Alok
--
It is not that polar co-ordinates are complicated, it is simply that
cartesian co-ordinates are simpler than they have a right to be.
-- Kleppner & Kolenhow, "An Introduction to Mechanics"

naniwadekar

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Jun 22, 2002, 12:29:15 AM6/22/02
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"Alok" <ganda...@rediffmail.com> wrote -

>
> Creativity? Silly jokes? If one posts something to more than one group,
> it is netiquette to set "Followup To:" headers.
>
> Note: since it is plain that you read RMIM and I read RAMLI, I haven't
> set "Followup To" this time.
>
I am glad you realise that sometimes one shouldn't set
"followup to:" header. At any rate, the solution to that
set-up is a simple one and was duly implemented.


> >>
> > Shamshad Begum, the classical singer, who was Naseem Bano's mother
> > and Shamshad Begum, the playback singer, are two different women.
>
> I am sorry for that mix-up. Should have spent more time researching
> before replying. Thanks for correcting me.
>

No need to be sorry. If a net resource gets a fact wrong, such mix-ups
are bound to occur. Nobody had stated before you in this thread that the
two Shamshads were different. Even newspapers in India had announced
in August 1998 that the playback singer Shamshad had died. I don't
remember any newspaper having noticed and published the mistake.

Let me quote from Snehal Oza's rmim post, dated 18 aug 1998 :
"Confusion! Shamshad Begum - the singer is alive and is living in Mumbai
(forgot the name of complex). The person who passed away on 10th August
was Shamshad Begum (Bano) - a different person, also related to films and
much senior to singer Shamshad."

Though Snehal had written that Naseem Bano's mother was also related
to films, I believe she was not. So far as I can remember it was Hamraaz
himself who told me that Naseem Bano's mother never sang for films.
Trying to find a sample of her singing should be an interesting exercise.
I will put the question to SIRC folks.

- dn


naniwadekar

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Jun 22, 2002, 12:57:56 AM6/22/02
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I had written -

>
> Let me quote from Snehal Oza's rmim post, dated 18 aug 1998 :
> "Confusion! Shamshad Begum - the singer is alive and is living in Mumbai
> (forgot the name of complex). The person who passed away on 10th August
> was Shamshad Begum (Bano) - a different person, also related to films and
> much senior to singer Shamshad."
>
> Though Snehal had written that Naseem Bano's mother was also related
> to films, I believe she was not. So far as I can remember it was Hamraaz
> himself who told me that Naseem Bano's mother never sang for films.
> Trying to find a sample of her singing should be an interesting exercise.
> I will put the question to SIRC folks.
>

Snehal is correct.
Film - Hamlet (alias khoon kaa khoon) - 1935.
Both Naseem Bano and her mother Shamshad (urf Chhamia) had
acted in this film under Sohrab Modi's direction.
Source - Shirish Kanekar's book, "Yaadon ki baaraat".
There were 17 songs in the film. Geet Kosh has not given any singer
credits. It is anybody's guess whether Chhamia sang in the film.

It looks like Naseem was born between 1915 and 1917.
check - http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jun/19banu.htm
The URL http://www.indianmelody.com/shamshadarticle1.htm
says Chhamia was nearly 100 years old when she died in August 1998.
It makes sense. I have forgotten now how I had come to tentatively
associate the year 1905 with Chhamia's birth. That is, er, unlikely.

When was the more famous Shamshad born? According to O P Nayyar,
Shamshad was 55 when she sang 'kajaraa mahobat wala' in Kismat - 1966?
Nayyar's way with facts is cavalier but for a reference point I have had
to make do with this one so far.

- dn


Ashok

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Jun 22, 2002, 6:18:16 PM6/22/02
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In article <3D1206E8...@yahoo.com>, il_...@yahoo.com says...


That must be 'Anokhi Ada'. She also acted in 'Chanani Raat'..
I am trying to think if she was in any film I have seen.
Did she act as the queen in Sohrab Modi's 'Nausherwan-e-Adil'?
It was a very gracefully rendered role.


Ashok

SKalra902

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Jun 24, 2002, 2:44:37 PM6/24/02
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Ashok Dhareshwar wrote:

>
>That must be 'Anokhi Ada'. She also acted in 'Chanani Raat'..
>I am trying to think if she was in any film I have seen.
>Did she act as the queen in Sohrab Modi's 'Nausherwan-e-Adil'?
>It was a very gracefully rendered role.
>

The Geet Kosh does say so, and so does the film's video.

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

abida123

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Jun 24, 2002, 7:32:15 PM6/24/02
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Please clarify (Saira Bano's mother was Nasim Bano I understand !! )But
was Nasim Bano's real mother the late singer Shamshad Begum??? How old
was Shamshad had Begum when she died???

Thanks!

Abida

SKalra902

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Jun 24, 2002, 10:55:36 PM6/24/02
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>Please clarify (Saira Bano's mother was Nasim Bano I understand !! )But
>was Nasim Bano's real mother the late singer Shamshad Begum??? How old
>was Shamshad had Begum when she died???
>
>Thanks!
>
>Abida

Alright, here we go again!

Saira Bano's mother was Naseem. Naseem's mother was Shamshad Begum. But
Naseem's mother was not the famous playback singer Shamshad Begum, who is still
alive. Just their names were common.

I think that should make it clear enough.

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

abida123

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Jul 1, 2002, 9:59:05 AM7/1/02
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Thanks Satish !

Abida

Kamalakar Pasupuleti

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Jul 1, 2002, 6:52:52 PM7/1/02
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"Afzal A. Khan" <il_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Afzal

Afzal Saab,Salaam
Can you mention some of her famous songs apart from PUKAAR.
KP


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