Chitrahaar [1] - RESULTS (very long)

[Kuntal Shah]

>>>>> "Abhay>" == Abhay Avachat <abhay....@blr.sni.de> writes:
In article <9507030907.AA24352@delss02> Abhay Avachat <abhay....@blr.sni.de> writes:

Abhay,

Abhay>> 22. This title song of a Basu Chattergee movie was composed in
Abhay>> his typical style by the great Salil Chaudhari. This movie was
Abhay>> also a big break to Amol Palekar and Vidya Sinha. Common now,
Abhay>> the clue contains all those small things to guess the song.

Abhay>> You can perceive this as a "googli" or a the worst clue of all
Abhay>> :-) :-( ! Almost everybody said, it's "rajanigandha phool
Abhay>> tumhare" as that also matches the first line. The only info
Abhay>> given to make this clue unambiguous was the last sentence, the
Abhay>> allusion to "small things" ! And this was too cryptic. So I
Abhay>> gave full points even to those who gave BOTH the songs.

This was great !!

-Kuntal.

[Ashok]

kuntal@damayanti (Kuntal Shah) wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Abhay>" == Abhay Avachat <abhay....@blr.sni.de> writes:
> In article <9507030907.AA24352@delss02> Abhay Avachat <abhay....@blr.sni.de> writes:
>
> Abhay,
>

> Abhay>> You can perceive this as a "googli" or a the worst clue of all

^^^^^^

> Abhay>> :-) :-( ! Almost everybody said, it's "rajanigandha phool
> Abhay>> tumhare" as that also matches the first line. The only info
> Abhay>> given to make this clue unambiguous was the last sentence, the
> Abhay>> allusion to "small things" ! And this was too cryptic. So I
> Abhay>> gave full points even to those who gave BOTH the songs.
>
> This was great !!
>
> -Kuntal.
>

I'll second that. It was a googli alright. Clean-bowled! I am on my
way to the pavilion before even the 'Howzat', leave alone umpire's signal.
Good job, Abhay.

Ashok

[latika khanna]

In article <9507030907.AA24352@delss02>, Abhay Avachat <abhay....@blr.sni.de> writes:
>
> Hello RMIM,
>
> Here are the results of the first ever Chitrahaar quiz. It's become a
> very long post, as I have included some analysis of the clues also. Bear
> with me as IMO this analysis will be helpful for the future quizzes.
>
> I am also sorry for the delay in posting answerss, but I received 14 (!)
> entries after the second reminder, so it took some time to compile the
> results and comments.
>
> It was a very enjoyable experience to conduct this quiz and to read
> comments made by the participants. More so as 48 people participated to
> give fantastic 37 entries ! I must thank all the participants to make
> this quiz a success. Thank you all !!
>
> GENERAL OPINION :
> =================
>
> Allow me to flatter myself, the quiz was liked by all participants. The
> format, the difficulty level and the clues were found to be fun and
> enjoyable. I think then the quiz has served it's intended purpose. I
> hold the opinion, that these quizzes should be just fun, nothing more.
> I didn't intend it as a question paper and I am happy that people liked
> the quiz as it is.
>
> DIFFICULTY LEVEL :
> ==================
>
> Fortunately the level was just right. It wasn't easy to score 100%. But
> 75 % of the participants scored more than 66 % !
>
> SOME GENERAL COMMENTS :
> =======================
>
> The quiz served one main purpose I intended. ie. to trigger off visual
> memories ! It was not rare to read a comment like, "I have seen this
> damn song, the hero's shirt is of xxx colour, ..., but the damn song
> evades me" :-) The cryptic clues were also welcomed. In general, it was
> a good excercise to the memory cells.
> As it imerged from the participant's comments, the visual aspects are
> more interesting. Some participants made valuable suggestions. I must
> thank Pintu for his painstaking efforts to evaluate each clue, and then
> making suggestions. Ikram liked the difficulty level, but said that two
> more quizzes and it will be as difficult as RJGK ! I hope it doesn't
> happen. Last but not the least, I thank Kuntal for correcting the
> spelling of the name of this quiz !
> Following are Ashok's views ...
> I wonder about the future of the series, though. I hope the
> series succeeds. One problem could be that it takes too much
> effort on the part of the quiz-master! It is much easier to
> assemble lines from a bunch of cassettes. Plus, there must be
> others like me who didn't care for Hindi films, but only Hindi
> film songs!
>
> Considering the response I think we can have some enjoyable quizzes !
> Read on !!
>
> FUTURE OF THESE QUIZZES :
> =========================
>
> Happy with the response to the first quiz, I am going to conduct one
> on Rafi next. The first thematic RJGK was on Rafi, so the first theme
> for this quiz should also be Rafi :-) In fact, the thinking is much
> more profound than that :-) :-) I will arrange the quiz so that the
> results of the quiz get announced on 31st July ! That will be an unique
> Shraddhaanjali to the greatest of all the singers !!!
> So the next quizzes are ....
>
> 2. Rafi - A Shraddhanjali Abhay Avachat
> 3. Dilip-Raj-Dev Special Kalyan and Atul
> 4. Theme not decided Ravindra and Pavan
> 5. ---do--- Neeraj Deshmukh
>
> I sincerely thank all the future organizers of the quiz series for
> keeping the idea alive.
>
> PARTICIPANTS :
> ==============
>
> The participation was really good ! In all 37 entries ! Following is the
> list of all the participants. I hope nobody is missed out. The list is
> not in any specific order.
>
> 1. Shashikant Joshi rava...@gold.tc.umn.edu
> 2. Arun Verma ve...@CS.Cornell.EDU
> 3. Kuntal Shah kun...@india.ti.com
> 4. S.Jagadish SF91...@omega.ntu.ac.sg
> 5. Chetan K. ckh...@polysci.umass.edu
> 6. Marella Sridhar ms...@umr.edu
> 7. Hiren Shah hi...@clam.rutgers.edu
> 8. Kalyan Kolachala & Atul Gupta k...@chromatic.com
> 9. Pavan Kumar Desikan & U.V Ravindra uvr@tata_elxsi.soft.net
> 10. Mohan Rathore rat...@ece.rutgers.edu
> 11. Sujata Swaminathan and Renu sswa...@students.wisc.edu
> 12. Praveen Saxena pra...@iss.nus.sg
> 13. Ramesh Hariharan hari...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
> 14. Sundeep Mattamana Sundeep_P...@umail.umd.edu
> 15. Ganesan Raj r...@loc3.tandem.com
> 16. Ikram A Khan iak...@cs.tamu.edu
> 17. Sanjay Garg sg...@lookout.ecte.uswc.uswest.com
> 18. Ashish Bokil & Manoj Gulati abo...@hubcap.clemson.edu
> 19. Ramki Krishnan & Madhav Rao ra...@churchill.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
> 20. Neeraj Deshmukh desh...@haydn.csc.ti.com
> 21. Balaji and Malini fl...@kanga.ins.cwru.edu
> 22. Prince Kohli & Neeraj Malhotra pko...@cc.gatech.edu
> 23. HemaRamanathan-ShyamalaRaghunathan ragh...@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu
> 24. Mala Acharya ma...@portal.cs.mci.com
> 25. Srinath Ekkad SVE...@ACS.TAMU.EDU
> 26. Rajesh Munshi rmu...@cs.sunysb.edu
> 27. RajivKumar S Kedia ke...@CS.Sc.EDU
> 28. Samiuddin Mohammed sm...@lehigh.edu
> 29. Lalitha lbal...@ecn.purdue.edu
> 30. Dhaval Dalal & Medha da...@msmailgw.uicc.com
> 31. Latika & Prabha kha...@turing.scs.carleton.ca
> 32. Preeti Ranjan PAnda ppa...@du.ICS.UCI.EDU
> 33. Ashok Dhareshwar & Chetan Vinchhi cvin...@telogy.com
> 34. Jeet Rao jeet...@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com
> 35. Mahesh Chaubal cha...@gl.umbc.edu
> 36. Roopa Dhawan & Ajit Dandekar RX...@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
> 37. Rajiv Shridhar ra...@meceng.coe.neu.edu
>
>
> Thanks a ton to all the participants for making this quiz a success !
> With support like this, the quiz can really become a regular series !!
>
> THE UNIQUE BONUS :
> ==================
>
> To all the early bird entries or rather to all who answered before the
> reminder, I offered a unique bonus ! I told them, which of their guesses
> were wrong. Yes ? I know this is objectionable, and I am not going to
> do it ever again ! In fact Sanjay Garg refused to accept this bonus. It
> was a commendable and sporting gesture, but Sanjay, the world is cruel !
> Everybody else grabbed the chance and utilised it :-) Of course, many
> felt bad about having a second attempt. So let's not do it again.
>
> ANSWERS and ANALYSIS :
> ======================
>
> In this first official :-) Chitrahaar Quiz, I said, I was experimenting.
> So how to frame the clues was not formalised. I just went on constructing
> them in different ways. Sometimes making it cryptic, sometimes giving
> the picturisation while sometimes just the Pstats etc. A lot has been
> learnt, thanks to the suggestions made by the participants, as how to
> make it better.
>
> There are 3 different categories of information, which can be given
> in the clue. One is picturisation, secondly some interesting and/or
> cryptic clue and thirdly the Pstats. As it turns out, this is also the
> order of their importance !
>
> 1. Picturisation Info :
> By general consensus, something about the picturisation is very
> necessary to trigger off visual memories. This is very much
> analogous to the RJGK tigerring audeo memories.
> 2. Cryptic/Interesting info :
> Something cryptic about the name of the movie, or its story or
> about the lyrics, can make the clue very interesting. Many of
> the participants liked this aspect a lot.
> 3. Pstats :
> Also the Pstats are not the best way to frame a question. So
> they get the least importance. They can help in confirming a
> guess, but by themselves, are not sufficient.
>
> So using this experience, and extending Pintu's idea, I decided to set
> a yardstick to measure the goodness value of the clues. I will evaluate
> a clue on a scale of 10. 5 points are for picturisation info, 3 for
> cryptic/interesting info and finally 2 for Pstats. The good clues tend
> to have more than 5 credit points, which is not necessarily an easy clue !
> This last sentence is worth pondering on, if you want to compile a quiz.
>
> So here are the answers, analysis and comments.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1.
> How many songs start at the top of Qutubminar and end at the bottom of
> it ? You don't need to know the answer to this question, to say that
> the best of such songs is this Rafi solo for Devsaab, under the music
> direction of SDB. Oh yes, the actress is Nutan.
>
> =====> 29/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 0 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 7
>
> This was a good and easy clue. But still not everybody got it.
>
> Preetibabu - qutb minar ke upar se hum neeche gir gaye
> par aap ne na saath diya to upar phir gaye
>
> Sami - Ah! What a start! Rafi Sahab!
>
> Well, if I compile a quiz, the first and the last song will always be
> a Rafi solo ! Afterall, as they say, "A good begining is half the job
> done" and "All is well, that ends well" ! :-)
>
> SONG : dil ka bhaNwar kare pukaar, pyaar ka raag suno re
> MOVIE : Tere Ghar Ke Saamane
> ACTORS : Dev Anand, Nutan
> MUSIC : S.D.Burman
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 2.
> Meenakumari was an expert in such roles. :-) She loves Raajkumar, but
> he has married Nadira. To celebrate their wedding, the Hospital staff
> goes on boating in perfect moonlight. Mennakumari wonders about this
> "queer story" (which actually is quite common) and sings this wonderful
> Lata solo. SJ's use of chorus is amazing.
>
> =====> 34/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 10
>
> This was a sitter. The "queer story" really gave it away. But still I
> think such clues are necessary. Almost everybody got it.
>
> Sami - What a fall after a great start :-( Shanky-J!!
>
> If Sami starts liking SJ, then he will sure win more quizzes :-)
>
> SONG : ajeeb daastaaN hai yeh, kahaaN shuru kahaaN khatam
> MOVIE : Dil Apana Aur Preet Paraayi
> ACTORS : Meenakumari, Raajkumar, Nadira
> MUSIC : Shankar - Jaikishan
> SINGER : Lata
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 3.
> Many movies become immortal due to the MD alone. How else a movie having
> pathetic direction and starring Bhagavan as hero runs house full even
> today ? It's indeed because of the great C.Ramachandra ! Lata and CR
> himself sing this last song from the movie. A fantastic rhythm to keep
> "the fire burning and the heart beating".
>
> =====> 33/37
>
> Pict = 0 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 5
>
> Absolutely no picturisation info given. Everybody guessed it's from
> Albela, but some were not aware of the "last song" from the movie. I
> thought the clue "the fire burning and the heart beating" will be able
> to make it very easy.
>
> Kalyan - A song from Chitalkar in chitrahar seems appropriate :-)
> Ravindra - Abhay, please make the clues harder!
> Pintu - I am sure the "fire burning..." is the clue, but otherwise it
> does not say about the picturization :(
>
> Well Mohan and Pintu, all you needed was to translate it into Hindi :-)
>
> SONG : shola jo bhadake, dil mera dhadake
> MOVIE : Albela
> ACTORS : Bhagwan, Geetabali
> MUSIC : C.Ramachandra
> SINGER : Lata, C.Ramchandra
> LYRICS : Rajendrakrishna
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 4.
> The theme on which Manmohan Desai became a famous film-maker was first
> presented by none other than B.R.Chopra. In this multistarrer he gave
> the message that "time" can change one's fate like anything ! Before
> the heroes Raajkumar, Sunil Dutt and Shashi Kapoor enter the story, we
> have a famous qawwali by Manna De. Superb lyrics for the elderly man
> Balraj Sahni by of course Sahir. The MD Ravi has also done a nice job.
>
> =====> 34/37
>
> Pict = 3 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 7
>
> I guess the clue was sufficient.
>
> Sridhar - Great song! Great choice! The clue was a complete give away.
> Ravindra - A 'time'less film, and a 'time'less song ! What I like in
> this song is the use of the pun on 'meri jaan' by Sahir!
> Mohan - tu abhi tak hai hasee.n aur mai.n budha ho gayaa :-(
>
> SONG : Aei meri zohra-jabeeN, tujhe maalum nahiN
> MOVIE : Waqt
> ACTORS : Balraj Sahani, ??
> MUSIC : Ravi
> SINGER : Manna Dey
> LYRICS : Sahir
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 5.
> Why does Bharat Bhushan get Rafi to sing and Madhubala to act with ?
> This mystery can very well feature in some Reader's Digest compilations.
> Here the MD is Madanmohan, lyrics by Rajendrakrishna. The entire movie
> revolves around the Beauty Queen, and unfortunately Bharat Bhushan makes
> the guest appearance but fortunately to sing this lovely Rafi-Lata duet.
> The song is a wonderful argument-counterArgument on loosing one's heart.
>
> =====> 20/37
>
> Pict = 1 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 4
>
> I think, I wasted this clue :-( The picturisation is so nice ! BharatB
> is as usual a Shayar (:-( ), starts writing a Nazm. He and Madhubala
> bith write their opinions about loosing "dil", and sing each others
> part. Really this clue could have been a lot better.
>
> Preetibabu - main to ik guest hoon, is guest se tu pyar na kar
>
> I will never forgive Preetibabu for using a Mukesh song to answer a
> clue that asked about a Rafi song :-) :-)
>
> SONG : do ghadi wo jo paas aa baiTHe
> MOVIE : Gateway of India
> ACTORS : Bharatbhushan, Madhubala
> MUSIC : Madanmohan
> SINGER : Rafi, Lata
> LYRICS : Rajendrakrishna (?)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 6.
> Naushad-Rafi-Shakeel-Dilip ! What a combination ! But it's not a solo.
> Add Vaijayantimala to act and Lata to sing this awesome composition in
> Raag Lalat. And at the backdrop is Taajmehal. Extraordinary lyrics,
> which perhaps prompted Sahir to come up with a counter-argument in some
> other movie.
>
> =====> 29/37
>
> Pict = 3 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 7
>
> This was also quite easy. The mere mention of Taajmehal must have been
> a clue enough to be cracked. But still, not everybody got it. Somebody
> who said the following, must be feeling like kicking himself :-) :-)
>
> The film is Leader, I know the song I still am able to remember
> Dilip in the shawl and the dusk/twilight type feel of the scene
> & I am not able to remember the song!!
>
> So Ikram, shall I say who said it ? :-) :-) :-)
>
> SONG : ek shehenshah ne banwaake hasiN taajmehal
> MOVIE : Leader
> ACTORS : Dilipkumar, Vaijayantimala
> MUSIC : Naushad
> SINGER : Rafi, Lata
> LYRICS : Shakeel Badayuni
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 7.
> He is a Junglee Janwar for sure. He is also a Loafer. But he is no less
> than any Raajkumar. And this is what he is in this movie, although the
> title is in English. He is singing, of course a Rafi solo as usual, in a
> party, where the villian Ajit is competing with him for Vaijayantimala.
> The 'firat' in Rafi's voice can send shivers down the KKKlan's spine :-)
>
> =====> 24/37
>
> Pict = 3 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 0 TOTAL = 6
>
> I wish, I had mentioned that Vaiju's saree has some "stars" designed on
> it. Then those who remembered Prince's (No, not Shammi, apana Kohli :-))
> graphic description, written a couple of years ago, would have guessed
> the song easily. :-) :-)
>
> Chetan - Loafer ? The only Loafer I know starred Dharmendra !
> Thanks to Chetan, and I apologize for the mistake.
>
> Ashish - only your being a hard core rafi fan can explain your calling
> it "firat" in rafi's voice :)))
> Preetibabu - chaahe mujhe koi jaanwar kahe, chaahe mujhe koi loafer kahe
> main to sirf mohammed rafi hoon, meri aawaaz men mukesh ki firat
> kahaan hai?
> This one statement was enough to disqualify Preeti from the quiz :-)
> This was also one the SJ songs missed by Sami !!
>
> SONG : badan pe sitaare lapete hue
> MOVIE : Prince
> ACTORS : Shammi, Vaijayantimala
> MUSIC : Shankar-Jaikishan
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 8.
> Don't worry KKKlan, we will have a KK song also. It's for the first
> superstar of Bollywood, Rajesh Khanna. Can you guess the song ? No ? OK.
> Sharmila is the actress. Got it ? Still no ? Here is another clue. The
> lyrics are by Sahir and MD are LP. Still no ? Don't tell me. OK, here is
> the last clue. It's from a Yash Chopra movie, where a twist in the tale
> has forced the couple RajeshK and Sharmila, to behave as strangers. But
> they do get a chance to have an outing in heavy snowfall, and presto,
> comes up this fanatstic song.
>
> =====> 21/37
>
> Pict = 1 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 6
>
> I SHOULD have clarified that this is a SOLO. The clue is sufficient even
> without that. But it was necessary. At least, it would have avoided the
> unnecessary confusion. Many correctly guessed the song is from Daag. But
> then some mentioned, "hum aur tum, tum aur hum, khush haiN yuN" and some
> said it's "ab chaahe maa rooTHe ya baba". But both these songs are NOT
> after the twist in the story as the clue says.
>
> Ravindra-Pavan - There aren't *many* songs for which LP have MD'ed a
> Sahir song for KK, you see!
>
> SONG : mere dil me aaj kya hai, tu kahe to maiN bata duN
> MOVIE : Daag
> ACTORS : Rajesh Khanna, Sharmila
> MUSIC : Laxmikant-Pyarelal
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar
> LYRICS : Sahir
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 9.
> Dharmendra is a perfect Hindi Film Hero in this movie. He is good at
> everything. He is a Robinhood kind of thief, he is a philanthropist and
> what not. Currently he is flying a plane, chasing Prem Chopra and Hema,
> who are in another helicopter. He sings a KK solo, which Hema and Prem,
> both can hear ! Through the communication channel of course. But still,
> a nice filmi idea :-). The MD is SDB, if you insist.
>
> =====> 23/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 9
>
> This clue really had everything that's needed. But still a few thought
> that it's "duniya o duniya", from Naya Zamana. I really don't know why !
>
> Pintu - Best clues of all, if anyone has seen the movie, can never
> forget and doesn't need any more clues :-)) This is TOO much!!!!
> singing while chasing in an airplane!!!
>
> SONG : tera pichha na maiN chhoduNga soniye, pyar ke is khel me ...
> MOVIE : Jugnu
> ACTORS : Dharmendra, Hema Malini, Prem Chopra
> MUSIC : S.D.Burman
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar
> LYRICS : Anand Bakshi (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 10.
> It may come as a surprise to many, but a lot of Mukesh gems are with the
> duo Kalyanji-Anandji, whom this group unfortunately prefers to ignore.
> Here it's Manojkumar trying to convince Saira Bano, that be it East or
> be it West, he will always wait for her.
>
> =====> 35/37
>
> Pict = 0 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 5
>
> I should have included some info about picturisation. But still the
> clue was found easy enough to crack by many. The East/West perhaps was
> sufficient ! I liked Ashok's comment.
>
> Ashok - They [Kalyanji-A] sure have truck-loads of Mukesh songs, but
> where are the gems? :)
>
> SONG : koi jab tumhara hriday toD de
> MOVIE : Purab aur Pashchim
> ACTORS : Manoj Kumar, Saira Bano
> MUSIC : Kalyanji-Anandji
> SINGER : Mukesh
> LYRICS : Indeevar (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 11.
> A mastibhari chhed-chhad ! Here it's between a 'flower' and one of the
> two 'gardeners' of it. Sanjaykhan is telling Sadhana, that he is a lover
> and no stranger, so there is no need for "sharmaanaa". She counters with
> the threats of "meri maa ke dande", but finally it's a Hindi movie. So
> in the end, she accepts his love.
>
> =====> 29/37
>
> Pict = 2 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 0 TOTAL = 5
>
> Even with these less points, the clue was not impossible to crack. May
> be because, the movie name was too easy to guess.
>
> Pintu - (flower/gardener was extra :)) or was it meri maaN ke dande)
>
> I really like these lines
> shukar karo ki paDe nahiN haiN, meri maaN ke DanDe,
> ek haath me ho jaate, armaan tumhaare THanDe
>
> SONG : ye parda hataa do, zaraa mukhada dikhaado
> MOVIE : Ek Phool Do Maali
> ACTORS : Sanjay Khan, Sadhana
> MUSIC : Ravi (??)
> SINGER : Rafi, Lata
> LYRICS : Prem Dhawan (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 12.
> Rishi-Neetu pair is one of the many famous pairs on the silver screen.
> In this movie Rishi plays a "lier", but Neetu is double crossing him.
> They start singing a song in the middle of the night, when the two hands
> of the clock meet each other. Some symbolism !
>
> =====> 31/37
>
> Pict = 4 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 0 TOTAL = 7
>
> It's not such a nice song, but it really made an interesting clue. So we
> need not have really great songs in such a quiz, but it should lead to
> an enjoyable clue ! We have some nice comments here.
>
> Mohan - (how ? there are 3 niddles meeting at 12. Is it 3some)
> Ikram - I wonder why we at rmim ignore these era songs.
> Sami - One of the WORST RD tunes!! :-)
>
> The eternal conflict between the New and the Old :-)
>
> SONG : barah baje ki, suiyoN jaise hum dono mil jaaye
> MOVIE : Jhoota KahiN Ka
> ACTORS : Rishi Kapoor, Neetu Singh
> MUSIC : R.D.Burman
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar, Asha (?? Haven't "heard" the song in ages)
> LYRICS : Anand Bakshi (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 13.
> Another famous pair is Mehmood-Shubha Khote ! Yes !! They had a lot of
> presence in some movies, and some nice songs too. Here Mehmood is trying
> to deceive Shubha's family, and is dressed like an Ustaad. They are
> singing a superb semi-classical duet by Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur. MD are
> Sami's favourite :-) Song is truely awesome.
>
> =====> 14/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 8
>
> The clue was really enough. But the choice of the song made the guessing
> a bit difficult. This proved that no 13 is really unlucky :-( But isn't
> one odd clue like this acceptable ? The song is really very well known.
>
> Ashok - Yuk! Pearl necklaces on pigs!
> Kalyan-Atul - This Mehommod song has us stumped.
> Ravindra-Paven - Mehmood was really good at playing Music Teacher, eh ?
>
> SONG : ajahuna aaye baalamaa, saawan beeta jaaye
> MOVIE : Saanjh aur Sawera
> ACTORS : Mehmood, Shubha Khote
> MUSIC : Shankar - Jaikishan
> SINGER : Rafi, Suman Kalyanpur
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 14.
> This song is a favourite of Antakshari wizards. Jeetubhai and Leena
> Chandavarkar are playing badminton. It's late in the evening, and while
> still playing, they sing this duet, with the punctuation mark music
> provided by the sounds of the racket hitting the shuttle.
>
> =====> 31/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 0 TOTAL = 8
>
> This was again an easy clue, and quite nice one. Such clues are really
> necessary to make the quiz enjoyable.
>
> Ravindra-Pavan - The 'tup-tip' is the sound of the "racket" :) made by
> the shuttle hitting the racquet-gut! ;-)
>
> Preetibabu - dadaaji! badminton! Mmmm - Hmmm!! Pehle Dabur Chyawanprash!
>
> SONG : DHal gayaa din, ho gayee shaam, jaane do jaana hai
> MOVIE : Humjoli
> ACTORS : Jeetendra, Leena Chandavarkar
> MUSIC : Laxmikant-Pyarelal ??
> SINGER : Rafi, Lata (?? Again, haven't heard it in ages)
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 15.
> Kishore Kumar was an interesting personality. One of the stories goes
> like, he insisted on chewing a "paan", while recording this song for
> the Big B. Kalyanji-Anandji had to oblige !
>
> =====> 37/37
>
> Pict = 0 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 5
>
> Such information is interesting, but it doesn't make it a good clue by
> itself. But still this is the only one, which was guessed by everybody !
>
> SONG : khayike paan Banaras waalaa
> MOVIE : Don
> ACTORS : Amitabh Bachchan, Zeenat Aman
> MUSIC : Kalyanji - Anandji
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 16.
> I wonder why a director like Hrishikesh Mukherjee chose a dumbo like
> Navin Nishcal ! And I am sure, if KK had seen the actress before, then
> he would have refused to sing this fantastic RDB creation, praising her
> beauty, which never existed, even in anybody's "khaab" :-)
>
> =====> 31/37
>
> Pict = 1 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 6
>
> Again more info about picturisation could have been given. I don't know
> how many could relate the mention of "khaab" with those Rafi-KK wars :-)
> If many did, then it wasn't a bad clue ! Majority got the song though.
>
> Ravindra-Pavan - Beauty LIES ;-), y'know,in the eyes of the beholder.
>
> SONG : raatkali ik "khaab" me aayi, aur gale ka haar hui
> MOVIE : Buddha Mil Gaya
> ACTORS : Navin Nishchol, Archana (??)
> MUSIC : R.D.Burman
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 17.
> Sanjeev Kumar was quite justifyably Gulzar's favourite. Here is seeing
> his past, when he and Sharmila were singing a Bhupindra - Lata duet.
> Nice picturisation. MD is Madanmohan.
>
> =====> 29/37
>
> Pict = 2 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 5
>
> Not a good clue ! Could have been better by giving more about the
> picturisation which is quite nice, and by adding some comment like
> the one made by Mohan. But still a good majority got it.
>
> Mohan - famous Ghalib gazal, mutilated in mausam, won't say more..
>
> I gave him full point ! :-) But I believe, Ashish is in the process of
> firing a selfguided missile towards Mohan :-)
>
> SONG : dil DHooNData hai, phir wohi fursat ke raat din
> MOVIE : Mausam
> ACTORS : Sanjeev Kumar, Sharmila Tagore
> MUSIC : Madanmohan
> SINGER : Bhupindra Singh - Lata
> LYRICS : Gulzar
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 18.
> For some reasons, I don't like Dadamuni much. But in this movie, he has
> nice songs beacuse of SDB. He is playing a grotesque singer, who was
> abandoned by his parents in his childhood. He is singing a superb
> classical solo by Rafi on stage (but in darkness), while Asha Parekh
> dances. Her lover Pradeepkumar is in the audience.
>
> =====> 24/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 9
>
> This clue and the answers, made my day when I received the answers !!!
> Have a look at the comments, Pintu, and tell me what you feel like !!!!!
>
> Kalyan-Atul - Thanks to Pintu and the tabla.
> Ravindra-Pavan - Did you and Pintu collude to post details about this
> song on the SAME day on RMIM?
> Sridhar - Our own PINTU DIWANA has done it again!!!!
> Eureka! Long live Archimedes :-)
>
> Kya baat hai ! And Pintu, should I shout on cyberstreets that you could
> NOT guess the song ? :-) :-)
>
> SONG : naache man mora magan dhigadha dhigi dhigi
> MOVIE : Teri Surat Meri Aankhe
> ACTORS : Ashok Kumar, Asha Parakh, Pradeep Kumar
> MUSIC : S.D.Burman
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 19.
> Vaijayantimala has done an incredible job of standing still like a
> statue in this song. More so, as in front of her is KK - singing a
> characteristic song and making faces ! MD surprisingly are SJ !!
>
> =====> 12/37
>
> Pict = 4 Cryp./Interest. = 0 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 6
>
> This combination made some people answer "eena meena deeka" from Asha.
> But that was by C.Ramchandra ! This is by SJ ! And it did feature in
> the RJGK on SJ ! And this is the second SJ song which Sami missed !!
> Perhaps I should have added something about the title of the movie, such
> as - it's the city where I am living :-)
>
> SONG : nakharewaali, ......, wo to koi aur thi jo aaNkhoN se ....
> MOVIE : Nai Delhi
> ACTORS : Kishore Kumar
> MUSIC : Shankar - Jaikishan
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 20.
> Hema Malini had a double role in this movie. One of her two heroes was
> Sanjeev Kumar. They are singing a superb Kishore-Asha duet. The director
> has tried his best to have a different picturisation. So he made them
> both go skating down a hill road.
>
> =====> 32/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 1 TOTAL = 7
>
> This was a good clue. Had almost everything needed to guess the song.
>
> Ravindra - And there they go skating ... ooops! samhaalo! pakD.o...arey
> kalaai chhoD.o ... they skate with the wind in their hair and
> the dark clouds in their eye ...
>
> SONG : hawa ke saath saath, ghata ke sang sang, o saathi challlll
> MOVIE : Seeta aur Geeta
> ACTORS : Hema Malini, Sanjeev Kumar
> MUSIC : R.D.Burman
> SINGER : Kishore Kumar, Asha Bhosle
> LYRICS : Anand Bakhsi (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 21.
> Shammi and Amita are going in a "Ghodagadi" after a fight. Who can be
> the MD ? It's anybody guess. OP Nayyar ! A superb Rafi solo, full of
> life. Typical, really typical song in all aspects.
>
> =====> 26/37
>
> Pict = 3 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 7
>
> Not a bad clue, but could have been better. I should have said that it's
> a title song. Also something like the following comment could have been
> added :-)
>
> Mohan - Is the fight over by that time ? Atleast I see Shammi getting a
> bang after each stanza.
> Ravindra - Shammi's eve-teasing! If I were a girl, I'd love to be
> eve-teased like this.... oops, no flames please!
>
> SONG : yuN to humane laakh hasiN dekhe haiN, tumasa nahiN dekha
> MOVIE : Tumasa Nahin Dekha
> ACTORS : Shammi Kapoor, Amita
> MUSIC : O.P.Nayyar
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : Majrooh (??)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 22.
> This title song of a Basu Chattergee movie was composed in his typical
> style by the great Salil Chaudhari. This movie was also a big break to
> Amol Palekar and Vidya Sinha. Common now, the clue contains all those

> small things to guess the song.
>

> =====> 28/37
>
> Pict = 0 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 3
>
> You can perceive this as a "googli" or a the worst clue of all :-) :-( !
> Almost everybody said, it's "rajanigandha phool tumhare" as that also
> matches the first line. The only info given to make this clue unambiguous
> was the last sentence, the allusion to "small things" ! And this was too
> cryptic. So I gave full points even to those who gave BOTH the songs.
>
> SONG : na jaane kyuN, hota hai ye zindagi ke sath
> MOVIE : Chhotisi Baat
> ACTORS : Amol Palekar, Vidya Sinha
> MUSIC : Salil Chaudhari
> SINGER : Lata
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 23.
> Picturisation of some songs can tell you the entire story of the movie.
> All you have to do is extrapolate on your experience and knowledge
> about Hindi movies ! See this song to understand what I mean. PradeepK
> is singing a Rafi solo in a party. He is angry as he is thinking that,
> MeenaK has deceived him. But throughout the song, the director makes
> sure that he doesn't get to know that she is handicapped. Clever, na ?
> Anyway, it's a "Roshan-Sahir combo" as Sami would call it.
>
> =====> 15/37
>
> Pict = 4 Cryp./Interest. = 3 Pstats = 0 TOTAL = 7
>
> But Sami DOESN'T call it a Roshan-Sahir combo ! As he, Chetan and Ashok
> pointed out, the song is written by Majrooh !! I am terribly sorry for
> this. Hope it didn't affect anybody ! With this correction and the info.
> that Ashok Kumar also plays a role in this song, this clue would have
> been perfect ! But even otherwise it's sufficient, and still very few
> got it. Perhaps everybody will share Ikram's opinion :-)
>
> Ikram - I need to be begged/ordered to sit thru a MeenaK movie and I
> would have to be paid a five figure sum to sit thru one with
> PradeepK in it to boot.
>
> SONG : dil jo na keh saka, wohi raaz-e-dil, kehane ki raat aayi
> MOVIE : Bheegi Raat
> ACTORS : Pradeep Kumar, Meenakumari, Ashok Kumar
> MUSIC : Roshan
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : Majrooh Sultanpuri (!!)
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 24.
> You may wonder, why I am including this song with the Golden Oldies.
> But it's director like Manirathnam and MDs like Rehman, who make us feel
> confident about the future of Indian movies. The picturisation and the
> music go hand in hand in this song, the first one from their first hit
> together. Dubbed in Hindi, I admit, but the song is great enough to
> be included with other great songs. A solo by Chitra.
>
> =====> 34/37
>
> Pict = 0 Cryp./Interest. = 1 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 3
>
> A stupid clue ! Absolutely no picturisation info. given :-( On top of it
> the name of the singer given was wrong. I corrected it. But still a bad
> clue, really bad. I gave full point to those who answered it as a Chitra
> solo, "kehena hi kya". Evrybody guessed it from their GK, not because of
> any picturisation memory.
>
> SONG : dil hai chhotaa sa, chhoti si aasha
> MOVIE : Roja
> ACTORS : Madhu
> MUSIC : A.R.Rehman
> SINGER : Minmini (!!)
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> 25.
> The last one has to be a Rafi solo. Keeping with the tradition, it's
> in Raag Bhairavi. It's also the last song in this movie. So, what if,
> this makes it a second song of the dumbo Bharat Bhushan in this same
> quiz. After this song Bharat Bhushan kills himself by cuting his toungue
> and Nimi dies during the song. Do you know that SJ finished this movie
> full of great songs in just one month ?
>
> =====> 12/37
>
> Pict = 5 Cryp./Interest. = 2 Pstats = 2 TOTAL = 9
>
> This was perhaps the best clue of all ! It has everything to guess the
> song. The song is very very famous. I have no idea, why so few got it.
> And why some confused it with, "o dur ke musafir" ! That's a Naushad
> song and starred Dilip. I wonder what Sami feels about people thinking
> a Nuashad song as a SJ song :-) :-)
>
> Latika & Prabha - End of the Guessing Game !!!!! :)
>
> SONG : duniya na bhaye mohe, ab to bulaale, charanoN me, charanoN me
> MOVIE : Basant Bahar
> ACTORS : Bharat Bhushan, Nimmi
> MUSIC : Shankar Jaikishan
> SINGER : Rafi
> LYRICS : ??
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
> RESULTS :
> =========
>
> And at last, after so much of blah blah ... :-) now the winners !
> As I mentioned earlier, the difficulty level was just right.
> See for yourself ! 75 % of the participants scored more than 66 % !!
> I hope I haven't made any error, and/or missed out anybody.
>
> 15/25 : Lalitha
> Rajiv Kumar S Kedia
>
> 16/25 : Mohan Rathore
> Dhaval Dalal and Medha
> Srinath Ekkad
>
> 17/25 : Hiren Shah
> Mala Acharya
>
> 18/25 : Hema and Shyamala
> Chetan K.
>
> 19/25 : Marella Sridhar
> Latika and Prabha
> Jeet Rao
>
> At 80% and above are .........
>
> 20/25 : Sujata and Renu
> Rajesh Munshi
>
> 21/25 : Ikram A Khan
> Ashish Bokil and Manoj Gulati
> Ganesan Raj
> Roopa Dhawan and Ajit Dandekar
> Rajiv Shridhar
>
> 22/35 : Kalyan Kolachala and Atul Gupta
> Sundeep Mattaman
>
> AND NOW THE TOP 3 PLACES !! TaaliyaaN, taaliyaaN ......
> At the 3rd place we have ...
>
> 23/25 : Sami (He missed 2 SJ songs :-))
> Arun Verma (the first participant)
> Praveen Saxena (from Singapore)
> Balaji and Malini (the Husband and wife pair)
>
> After this we have only pairs !
> At the second place we have ..... aur zordaar taaliyaaN ....
>
> 24/25 : Ashok Dhareshwar and Chetan Vinchhi
> (they missed the Chhotisi Baat clue, else they would
> have done a unique double of RJGK and Chitrahaar)
> Ramki and Madhavi (missed the Mehmood-Shubha Khote clue)
>
> And finally the winners of the first ever official Chitrahaar quiz are ...
> TaaliyaaN with drums .....
>
> 25/25 :
> Prince Kohli and Neeraj Malhotra
> (their 25th answer came at the last moment, till the
> last second, only the following had scored 100% !!)
>
> U.V.Ravindra and Pavan Kumar Desikan
> (Afterall the Rafinas are always at the TOP !!)
>
>
> THANKS :
> ========
>
> Congratulations to the winners ! And thanks to all the participants !!
> The next quiz is on Rafi by me. It will have 25 songs by Rafi for 25
> different actors ! It will hit the net between 10-15 July so that the
> results can be announced on 31st July as a unique Shraddhaanjali to this
> great singer. After that the baton will be handed over to Kalyan-Atul,
> then to Ravindra and then to Neeraj Deshmukh.
>
>
> Thanks again to everybody involved !
>
> - Abhay.
> A very enjoyable experience indeed !
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