It's time we had a way to recognize the better efforts, the
creativity, the innovation, without being unduly influenced or
pressured by market forces or popularity of soundtracks. It's time we
had our own awards. Besides, when every Ram, Shyam, and Ghanshyam is
handing out awards like rewa.Diis, there's no reason why a die-hard
HFM (Hindi Film Music) listening community that spends so much time
filling discussion forums on the net with its raves and rants,
thoughts and opinions about the music, should not get to honor
something that it likes, even if only in pixels (i.e. no real
rewa.Diis).
In the past, there have been several discussions and attempts on RMIM
(newsgroup rec.music.indian.misc) to introduce such a thing. But for
one reason or another, the idea never really left the threads of the
newsgroup. This is an attempt to bring it to reality.
Presented, hereby, are RMIM puraskaar for year 2006.
To send your entry, just visit the submission site at the URL given
below. All you need to know for submission is supposed to be on the
site. Please read every word carefully including the ones that appear
on the hover of your mouse, in balloon boxes. If you still have any
questions, feel free to ask it on RMIM.
The awards are open like RMIM and everyone on the net can vote. You
just need a name and a valid email id. It would help if the name you
use is the same as the one used at RMIM or another music forum on the
net. Any dubious-looking entries will not be considered.
If you have modifications to your entry, simply send it again, using
the same name and email id. Only your last entry will be considered
valid.
The tentative last date for submission is March 3, 2007.
Finally, thanks to Asif Alvi, Afzal Khan, Ketan Dholakia, Ritu
Chandra, Satish Kalra and U V Ravindra for their inputs,
encouragement, and beta testing.
Here's the URL:
For all updates regarding these awards, please check the newly created
"giitaayan blog" at http://giitaayan.blogspot.com/
Spread the word.
Vinay
> It's time we had a way to recognize the better efforts, the
> creativity, the innovation, without being unduly influenced or
> pressured by market forces or popularity of soundtracks. It's time we
> had our own awards. Besides, when every Ram, Shyam, and Ghanshyam is
> handing out awards like rewa.Diis, there's no reason why a die-hard
> HFM (Hindi Film Music) listening community that spends so much time
> filling discussion forums on the net with its raves and rants,
> thoughts and opinions about the music, should not get to honor
> something that it likes, even if only in pixels (i.e. no real
> rewa.Diis).
Bravo, Vinay! I appreciate your initiative and effort for the
puraskaar. This will encourage exploration and discussion of
contemporary music.
I agree with what you say above, however there is a disconnect as far
as RMIM is concerned. The "stereotypical" RMIM community that spends
time filling the newsgroup does so on matters other than contemporary
hfm music, IMO.
Nevertheless, I welcome this opportunity and do expect my entry for
the awards. I suggest moving the deadline further out though. I don't
think I can criticaly listen to the soundtracks of all those movies
listed in 10 days. There are movies there that I didn't even know they
existed!
Hema.
You are, of course, unarguably correct. However, it is my opinion
that
the Puraskaar may help mitigate this deficiency. The average RMIM
member, I think will not like to submit an entry favoring a particular
soundtrack without giving it at least one (and frequently more) honest
listen. Your words below support this line of thinking --
> Nevertheless, I welcome this opportunity and do expect my entry for
> the awards. I suggest moving the deadline further out though. I don't
> think I can criticaly listen to the soundtracks of all those movies
> listed in 10 days. There are movies there that I didn't even know they
> existed!
>
> Hema.
It is, therefore, my hope that when it comes to Puraskaar-ifying HFM
soundtracks of more recent vintage, people will do their homework
as diligently and with as much integrity as you plan to do yours
above.
I join you in congratulating Vinay on a job well-begun. It's now in
the
hands of RMIM to make it a successful endeavor.
-UVR.
Nice idea but I shudder at the thought of suffering through all these
Americanized songs to find the one or two worth mentioning.
I am sure there MUST be one or two melodious ones such as TOOHI RE by
Hariharan which deserve praise.
It was very easy in 50s, 60s and 70s when no one asked us. Film Fare
for many years was a sham. Most blatant was SOORAJ getting the best
over Guide.
Vinayak
Agreed. But so was Dosti over Sangam. :)
--
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra
Congrats Vinay.. the effort is finally off the ground. Apart from the
usual benefits of this exercise, as people pointed out, this effort
should bring a lot of seldom discussed soundtracks and era into the
forefront too. We have had good music in every era but the fear of
putting up with a cartload of junk puts most of us off from delving
into some era. This exercise gives us an opportunity to explore music
out of our 'comfort-zone' eras and find gems we can appreciate.
So.. to cut a long story short, what are the recommendations for 2006?
I think 2006 has been a rich year both musically and cinematically.
There is a lot good happening these days. A lot of these off-beat
films particularly are not only good but have good music as well.
To start off from my end I would recommend a film called 'Strings' for
a listen. The film is a slightly abstract, travelogue kind of feature
on the Kumbh Mela (in Nagpur). The music however, is very refreshing
and not abstract at all :). It is by a new Music Director called Zubin
Garg. It comprises of a number of pleasant melodies and a pretty good
remix of Piya Milan Ko Jaana to top it!!
The soundtrack is available on MusicIndiaOnline. Do check it out and I
would love to hear what the others(particularly Hema since she
expressed interest) have to say.
I await more recommendations too since I have not heard much from
2006. On an aside, I think in the later years we are more likely to
find a collection of good songs rather than 'entire' soundtracks.
Cheers
Ritu
P.S Please do check out some of the name of the films released last
year. e.g 'Tera Pati Mera Pyar' (this one surely is inspired by Zee TV
Serials)
I think it depends on one's perspective. I can totally understand
yours, but to me (these days), the reward is worth the effort put in.
I think the reason I ended up with this opinion is that I decided
it's high time I came to the realization that the music of the 50s
and 60s isn't coming back, so I must either resign myself to
staying stuck in time and listening to the same tracks over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over again, or I must try to expend some effort and find something
interesting and likeable in more modern stuff. The advantage of
the former is that I will only ever listen to stuff that I *know* I
like.
The disadvantage? The same thing!
-UVR.
Here is the web link:
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/hindi_bollywood/s/movie_name.8622/
The film stars Rekha and Nana Patekar.
The reason the album is missing from the poll is that the film has not
yet been released. The list is based on films released (as opposed to
the soundtracks) in 2006. This system of using film release year for
inclusion of an album is not necessarily better than using soundtrack-
release year, but there is no *authoritative* list of the latter
kind.
Vinay
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Vinay
I join Hema in congratulating on your great effort and as an avid RMIM
reader and occasional contributor, I really want to participate in the
survey to try to ensure that a good quality output gets its recognition from
a knowledgable audience. Personally I may like golden oldies but I have not
turned my back on the modern music and I do enjoy it when I come across some
nice albums. But I think I am not qualified to participate in the survey due
to my limited exposure to the modern songs. Let me explain. If I were to
vote, then based on what I have heard, I would have ertainly voted for
Omkara, Rang De Basanti and Jaan-e-Mann. But the album I loved more than all
these was Dor and it was very likely that this album would have easily
passed under the radar. And if it really had and had I voted for the first
three and then discover Dor sometimes later, I would never forgive myself
for not voting for it. Because isn't that is the reason in the first place
to start these puraskaars, to reconize the work that will easily be
overlooked by commercial media? Another such example for me is 'Banaras'.
There is an absolute gorgeous bhajan in it along with few really good songs.
Now I came upon Banaras complete accidently. I am sure there are few
Banarases out there in 2006 that I don't know about. And this thought stops
me from voting based on what I have heard. Now you have given a full list
movies that were released in 2006 but even if you extend the deadline by
another 2 months, there is absolutely no way I can go through it even if all
of it is available on sites like musicindiaonline. 90% of it is going to be
junk. Now ideally what I would like is a short list, a recommendation list
that I can go through, listen online if I have to before I feel comfortable
voting. Where can I find such list? I hope I can get it as a result of the
puraskaars. :-)
Anant
Kumbh mela in Nagpur?!! Sure it wasn't Nasik?
> and not abstract at all :). It is by a new Music Director called Zubin
> Garg. It comprises of a number of pleasant melodies and a pretty good
> remix of Piya Milan Ko Jaana to top it!!
The soundtrack is alright, not bad. I had mixed feelings about "piya
milan ko jana". The original happens to be a huge favorite sung by one
of my most fav singers. I wasn't sure if I should be outraged by the
song or be happy about the "tribute". Still, best song of the album.
> I await more recommendations too since I have not heard much from
> 2006. On an aside, I think in the later years we are more likely to
> find a collection of good songs rather than 'entire' soundtracks.
Agreed. talkign of "strings" reminds me of the song "yeh hai meri
kahani" from Zinda. Vishal and Shekhar started off very promising
after "jhankaar beats". Zinda was equally disappointing. However, that
one song by strings stood out in the lacklustre album.
Hema.
If I were you, I would do exactly that - wait for the results :).
No really, I don't see much value in voting just for the sake of it.
Numbers are not important at all. We are going to have enough votes to
make it meaningful. If you don't think you have kept in touch with the
soundtracks of the year as much as you would like to, for comfortably
picking 5 or 7 really good albums, may be not voting is not a bad
idea. The decision rests on you.
The format of the results will ensure that you have what you are
looking for - a recommendation list of *all* that was good, at least
what RMIMers and other netizens believe to be good, in 2006. Not just
one winner, or five nominees, but the underdogs too. Come to think of
it, how many awards do that?
Vinay
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You can try 30's and 40's. I did and I tell you, it is better than even
50's. :-)
Anant
> -UVR.
>
Sorry Nasik!! I always mix the two.
> The soundtrack is alright, not bad. I had mixed feelings about "piya
> milan ko jana". The original happens to be a huge favorite sung by one
> of my most fav singers. I wasn't sure if I should be outraged by the
> song or be happy about the "tribute". Still, best song of the album.
>
I too love the original and hence was partial to this track. But
really.. the lyrics are totally different and the chorus makes it
quite a good and creative effort. By and large, I have to say I am not
as anti-remix as most die-hard music lovers are. I like to hear the
same song in many voices and a well done re-rendition is always
welcome. Even if it is my favourite song (remember I liked 'Mere
Saajan Hain Us Paar' as well).
Anyway, I also liked 'Rimjhim Rimjhim barishon mein' quite a lot.
Fresh voices and fresh sounding uncluttered orchestration. And not too
much of synthesising of the sound. Ramo Ramo is also quite nice. I
will give Zinda a listen.
Cheers
Ritu
Lage Raho Munna Bhai
Umrao Jaan
Strings
Banaras.
Rang De Basanti
These are the tracks I don't know anything about. Any recommendations?
Baabul
Kabul Express
Dor
Gangster
Corporate
Jaan-e-man
Omkara (I have only heard Beedi Jalaile)
Pyar Ke Side Effects
Vivah
Woh Lamhe
Zindagi Rocks.
Ritu
Note: IMOs apply throughout.
Omkara is the only complete soundtrack worth listening to in your list
above. In fact, i think its one of the best of 2006. I CANNOT believe
that Shreya G got a filmfare nomination for nursery rhymish "pal pal"
from LRM and not for "o saathi re" from Omkara. The other songs like
naina thag lenge and namak are very good. But for me the best is "o
saathi re". I think Vishal's vocals complement Shreay's and enhance
the song. If you have seen the movie you might agree that his voice
quality suits the character very well. As an aside I think this movie
should be a lesson in casting and characterization.
Coming back to filmfare, although the awards are much criticized, I
was appalled by the nominations too. I could write pages on the farce
called filmfare awards but I'll save my breath for commenting on
music. In your list above, I would definitely give Vivah and Zindagi
Rocks a miss. Janeman is Anu Malik at his predictable mediocrity.
However, I did like "ajnabi sheher mein". Thats the thing with Anu
Malik. He does come up with some good songs every once in a while.
Gangster and woh lamhe has some good songs. I like to check out
soundtracks from Mahesh bhatt movies because they do bring out some
fresh talent. Woh lamhe has an interesting new sound in "chal chalen"
and you get to hear not so prolific Kay Kay in "kya mujhe pyar hai".
Good enough reason to lend an ear. You get to hear Kay Kay again in
"tu hi meri shab hai" in Gangster. Then there is Abhijeet crooning
"lamha lamha" along with Sunidhi. A nicely rendered romantic song and
that is what Abhijeet does best. Dor has a very good duet "imaan ka
asar" sung by Shreya and Sunidhi.
Hema.
I wouldn't call Umrao Jaan a track worth listening to. It did
not impress me one bit -- the singing was lackluster, the
lyrics were boring and the music was just too silly (someone
should tell Anu Malik that reworking 'seene meN jalan' into
a slightly different shape or taking a pedestrian tune and
merely adding esraaj/saragi-dominated interludes DOES NOT
constitute composing Ghazals).
LRM was okay. I found the tunes enjoyable.
Rang De Basanti is a GOOD soundtrack. I think I liked
every song in it with the exception of 'tu bin bataaye' and
that godawful Lata-ARR duet 'lukaa chhupi'. Someone
should tell ARR to stop using Lata.
> These are the tracks I don't know anything about. Any recommendations?
>
> Baabul
Good track overall. Aadesh scored a few points from me
for the way he got Amitabh to sing the sobby "title" song.
For Bachchan's age and vocal caliber, the song was sung
very nicely indeed. FWIW, I don't buy any of the marketing
hype saying Amitabh composed this song. The stereo-
typical Kunal G song "bebasi, dard kaa aalam" also makes
for decent listening. I liked Sonu's "baawari piyaa ki" quite
a bit.
> Kabul Express
> Dor
Very nice music (including lovely background score). Hema
has omitted to mention the Shafaqat Ali Khan song "yeh
hausla" -- beautiful full-throated singing of the kind no longer
heard in the average Hindi film. Not to mention Karsan
Sargathiya's variation on 'kesariya baalam'. I wasn't as taken
by "eemaan kaa asar" (Shreya-Sunidhi duet), musically as
Vinay was (check RMIM archives).
> Gangster
I think I have heard these songs too much in too many parties.
Now I don't like these songs at all.
> Corporate
There's a nice Asha Bhosle song (beautiful song, the singing
could have been better) "lamha lamha lamha zindagi hai". The
so-called 'qawwali' by Kailash Kher, "o sikandar" is no great
shakes. Other songs didn't register.
> Jaan-e-man
I *loved* the way Sonu sang the mukhda of "ajnabee shahr hai".
It's worth checking out. I think I might have posted the lyrics
of this song on RMIM. Decent adaptation of 'country roads,
take me home' by Anu Malik.
> Omkara (I have only heard Beedi Jalaile)
Pardon my French, but ho...ly cr*p! What have you been doing
with your time listening to other stuff? Omkara is a COMPLETE
soundtracki (and more than that, a complete film). Every single
song is worth listening to, and I completely agree with Hema
about "o saathi re". I think it's the best "composed" song from
the film. The beedi is, of course, the best 'full package' song
(I'm not talking about the visuals).
> Pyar Ke Side Effects
> Vivah
"Well left." Udit Narayan trying to sound "sweet" makes me puke.
The movie was a thorough waste of my time as well.
> Woh Lamhe
To me, another track like Gangster.
> Zindagi Rocks.
The only good song from the movie is 'ek din fursat ne thaame
haath hamaare', a nice adaptation of an English song ('autumn
leaves', sung by Nat King Cole amongst others) by Anu Malik.
Again, check the YouTube link I have posted on RMIM for this.
I think there were a lot of movies with 'ikka dukka' good songs
in them. I, for one, was greatly impressed with "mitwa" from
KANK, but the songs which feature Alka Y. from that film are
_totally_ avoidable. Fanaa had "mere haath mein teraa haath
hai" (Sonu, Sunidhi) and "chaand sifaarish" (Shaan, Kailash
Kher). I liked "jab jab saiyaan" from Chingaari (Himani of
ZeeTV SRGMP fame). S-E-L's Don seems to have done ok
amongst the masses, but save for the interesting orchestration
of "aaj ki raat", I didn't find it great. Those who liked Gangster
and Woh Lamhe will like "subah subah" by Zubeen from the
film I See You. I suppose we are using the year of film RELEASE
(versus the year of film *certificate*) for this exercise, so that
disqualifies Guru, otherwise, I would heartily recommend the
beautiful ARR song "tere bina (be-swaadee ratiyaan)", the
Shreya song "barso re megha", the 'middle-eastern' flavored
song 'maiyyaa maiyyaa' and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe the
Hariharan/Alka Y. duet "ai hairat-e-aashiqee jagaa mat".
S-E-L's Salaam-e-Ishq also gets disqualified by the same
'year'dstick, but that's no harm done, as the track wasn't
worth writing home about, anyway.
-UVR.
PS: To *ALL* the above applies the standard -imho- disclaimer,
of course.
Thanks for the run down on the above soundtracks, UVR. One film that I
haven't seen mentioned in the thread yet is Bas Ek Pal. All the tracks are
worth a listen, but I particularly liked the two Sunidhi-KK duets "ashq bhi
muskaraye tum jo mile," and "sard sard sa.nsen...dheemey dheemey." Both KK
and Sunidhi are in excellent form in these two very different songs. As an
aside, I've resigned myself to the audible breathing that seems to be a
feature of many new songs. Sigh.
Shalini
Pavan
BTW Anwar should be excluded from the list.. as it got released in
2007..
Or discover music of regional languages :)
hmm. I thought Lata really brought out the emotion well
and this was one of her better songs in the post 90's era.
>
> > Omkara (I have only heard Beedi Jalaile)
>
> Pardon my French, but ho...ly cr*p! What have you been doing
> with your time listening to other stuff? Omkara is a COMPLETE
> soundtracki (and more than that, a complete film). Every single
> song is worth listening to, and I completely agree with Hema
> about "o saathi re". I think it's the best "composed" song from
> the film. The beedi is, of course, the best 'full package' song
> (I'm not talking about the visuals).
Naina Thag Lenge is my favorite !!
>I wouldn't call Umrao Jaan a track worth listening to. It did
>not impress me one bit -- the singing was lackluster, the
>lyrics were boring and the music was just too silly (someone
>should tell Anu Malik that reworking 'seene meN jalan' into
>a slightly different shape or taking a pedestrian tune and
>merely adding esraaj/saragi-dominated interludes DOES NOT
>constitute composing Ghazals).
While the songs were pretty blah--melody wise, I did like Anu Malik's usage of
sarangi and tabla. It's a different matter that Aishwarya at times had trouble
dancing to the thekas.
>> Omkara (I have only heard Beedi Jalaile)
>
>Pardon my French, but ho...ly cr*p! What have you been doing
>with your time listening to other stuff? Omkara is a COMPLETE
>soundtracki (and more than that, a complete film). Every single
>song is worth listening to, and I completely agree with Hema
>about "o saathi re". I think it's the best "composed" song from
>the film. The beedi is, of course, the best 'full package' song
>(I'm not talking about the visuals).
For me if Omkara had only "Beedi" it would still make it. Here is a song after a
long long time in which the MD seems to have paid careful attention to the
minutest details of sound/orchestration. His usage of the harmonium is very
good. He even brings in the crowds cheering and whistling in a rhythmic beat. I
find a lot of MD's composing a song with western instruments and then throwing
in a tabla(e.g: Crazy Kiya Re). By and large the results have been pretty good
to hear so far. They have been listening to Nitin Sawhney and Talvin Sigh, I
guess.
>S-E-L's Salaam-e-Ishq also gets disqualified by the same
>'year'dstick, but that's no harm done, as the track wasn't
>worth writing home about, anyway.
Salaam-e-Ishq though disqualified from this list, does have a couple of decent
songs. I particularly like Kailash Kher in "Ya Rabba". The highlight for me in
this song(as in Mitwa), is the 15 second solo guitar piece that comes in the
interlude. S-E-L really do this bit well.
Ketan
Yeah, "ya rabba" is good, but it's no "mitwa". I do agree with you
about
the 'guitar' piece, but you know, as far as mitwa is concerned,
Shankar
evidently played it on the _keyboard_, impromptu, when they were
trying
to throw together a demo for Karan Johar. At least that's what Ehsaan
said.
-UVR.
>>Lage Raho Munna Bhai
>>Umrao Jaan
>>Strings
>>Banaras.
>>Rang De Basanti
>>
>
>
> I wouldn't call Umrao Jaan a track worth listening to. It did
> not impress me one bit -- the singing was lackluster, the
> lyrics were boring and the music was just too silly (someone
> should tell Anu Malik that reworking 'seene meN jalan' into
> a slightly different shape or taking a pedestrian tune and
> merely adding esraaj/saragi-dominated interludes DOES NOT
> constitute composing Ghazals).
I couldn't stand the movie (DVD) once Ashwariya began
mispronouncing Urdu words like KHabar, KHush etc.
There was one particular sentence where there were 4-5
such instances. Any viewer's mind would go back to the
earlier classic where Rekha pulled off the role with
remarkable aplomb.
And one more of Anu Malik's songs seems to be a rehash
of an earlie tune :
"Salaam...tumhaari mehfil men aa gaye haiN, to kyoN na hum
yeh bhi kaam kar leN"
It reminded me of a comparatively obscure song from an
otherwise fine music score : "Satyam Shivam Sundaram".
"Suni jo un ke aane ki aahaT, GHareeb~KHaana sajaaya hum ne".
Afzal
A tip that works for me for keeping track of some of my favorite songs
over the course of the year.
* If and when you like a song from a new movie, try to post the lyrics
of the song on RMIM.
* If someone has already posted it, add a comment to the thread.
* When you want a summary, for instance now when you are supposed to
send your entry for RMIM Puraskaars :), simply do an advance Google
Groups search with the following parameters:
Group: rec.music.indian.misc
Author: _your email id_
Keywords: "year{2006}" "generated using www.giitaayan.com"
And voila! Google magic. Serve it "sorted by date" for added flavor.
It's healthy and full of nutrition too - you are adding to the lyrics
database and improving your language/iTrans skills in the process.
See this for example: http://tinyurl.com/2tlx4g
Vinay
Vinay
On Feb 21, 10:01 am, "Vinay" <v9y....@gmail.com> wrote:
> "giitaayan blog" athttp://giitaayan.blogspot.com/
>
> Spread the word.
>
> Vinay
Shalini,
I just wanted to stop by and thank you for recommending Bas Ek Pal.
I hadn't come across it until your post, but I have heard it now and I
think the songs you mention make for some real nice (and) 'easy'
listening. 'tere bin' is also good, when you're in the mood for that
kind of song.
-UVR.
When? where? (to the bit about Ehsaan saying it)
links/pointers?
--
neha
Thanks,