Devotional songs of Hemant Kumar-1
prit...@hotmail.com
This is the first in a series of mails I intend to post
to RMIM on a particular thread - the devotional (film)
songs of Hemant Kumar.
The song 'Darshan do ghanshyam' can well be considered
the most popular devotional song by Hemant Kumar (Geet
Govindam - 'Anandmath' would surely be second).
The singers are listed as:
Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Chorus (on CD
as well as on LP). The only other voice is clearly that
of Manna De. And MD outclasses HK by yards.
(I say this inspite of being a diehard HK fan
-just listen to the last stanza to differentiate the
fluency of the two singers).
Song: Darshan do ghanshyam
Film: Narsi Bhagat (1957)
Singers: Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Manna De
Music: Ravi
Lyrics: G.S. Nepali
(HK):Darshan do ghanshyam nath
mori aNkhiyan pyaasi re.
(SM):Darshan do ghanshyam nath
mori aNkhiyan pyaasi re.
(HK):man mandir ki jyoti jaga do
(SM):man mandir ki jyoti jaga do
(HK):ghat ghat baasi re.
(HK+SM):Darshan do ghanshyam
(HK): Mandir mandir murat teri
phir bhi na dikhe surat teri
Aaa...aaa
(SM): Aaa..aaa
(HK+SM): Mandir mandir murat teri
phir bhi na dikhe surat teri
yug beete na aayi milan ki puran maasi re||
(HK):Dwar daya ka jab tu khole
pancham sur me goonga bole
(SM): Aaa..aaa
(HK+SM):Dwar daya ka jab tu khole
pancham sur me goonga bole
andha dekhe -
langDa chalkar pahunche kaashi re||
(MD): Paani peekar pyas bujhaoon
nainan ko kaise samjhaoon
ankh micholi chhoDo ab to
man ke baasi re.
Darshan do ghanshyam
mori aNkhiyan pyaaasi re,
darshan do ghanshyam||
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Anand Tiwari
In article <6dqikr$jja$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, prit...@hotmail.com says...
>
>This is the first in a series of mails I intend to post
>to RMIM on a particular thread - the devotional (film)
>songs of Hemant Kumar.
>
>The song 'Darshan do ghanshyam' can well be considered
>the most popular devotional song by Hemant Kumar (Geet
>Govindam - 'Anandmath' would surely be second).
>
>The singers are listed as:
>Hemant Kumar, Sudha Malhotra and Chorus (on CD
>as well as on LP). The only other voice is clearly that
>of Manna De. And MD outclasses HK by yards.
>(I say this inspite of being a diehard HK fan
>-just listen to the last stanza to differentiate the
>fluency of the two singers).
>
The only question i have is this: If you felt that Hemant Kumar is outclassed
by a mile by Manna Dey in this song why did you choose this particular
song to start the series? Just because this song is popular?
Being a Hemant fan myself, i am look forward to this series. I hope it shall
help me find out which songs i am still missing.
regards
Anand
neha...@hotmail.com
In article <1998030803...@zippo.com>, an...@cegt201.bradley.edu says...
>
>
>The only question i have is this: If you felt that Hemant Kumar is outclassed
>by a mile by Manna Dey in this song why did you choose this particular
>song to start the series? Just because this song is popular?
Why Anand, is that reason not good enough? Please at least allow him the
privilege of choosing which song he wants to start his series with, without any
questions(specially since the songs belongs in the category of 'Devotional songs
by Hemant Kumar').
(and not everyone believes that one should post songs/lyrics only where one
think one's idol did the best...ref: thread 'ek baat dil mein aayi hai..'...next
you will ask him to post only solos hmm??:)))
That apart, great song to start the series with, Prithviraj. I hope to see many
more songs. I hope you check the ISB so that you can write the lyrics of songs
not present there, thereby contributing to the ISB. Just a suggestion.
In this song, I dont agree with your Hemant-Manna comparison. I do believe that
Hemant sounds better than Manna. Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
piousness/truth that makes him sound more into the song than Manna.
>Being a Hemant fan myself, i am look forward to this series. I hope it shall
>help me find out which songs i am still missing.
You mean you have almost all of Hemant's songs? Cool! Would you mind listing the
collections you have..(for eg. 'Golden collection', 'Anmol Rattan'...)just so I
know what to look for when I want to buy Hemantda's collections. Thanks.
--
Neha
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bura jo dekhan main chali...bura na milya koi...
jo dil khoja aapna...mujhse bura na koi...
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Anand Tiwari
In article <1998030913...@zippo.com>, neha...@hotmail.com says...
>
>In article <1998030803...@zippo.com>, an...@cegt201.bradley.edu says...
>>
>>
>>The only question i have is this: If you felt that Hemant Kumar is outclassed
>>by a mile by Manna Dey in this song why did you choose this particular
>>song to start the series? Just because this song is popular?
>
>Why Anand, is that reason not good enough? Please at least allow him the
>privilege of choosing which song he wants to start his series with, without any
>questions(specially since the songs belongs in the category of 'Devotional songs
>by Hemant Kumar').
I am not contesting his right to start off a series with a particular song. I
was just curious. You have twisted my words to suit your purpose.
>
>(and not everyone believes that one should post songs/lyrics only where one
>think one's idol did the best...ref: thread 'ek baat dil mein aayi hai..'...next
>you will ask him to post only solos hmm??:)))
I never said that i will post songs in which my favourite singer did the best.
I enjoyed the song and wished to share it with others. Too bad if you cannot
digest it and keep referring to it every now and then.
Also a couple of weeks back i did post the lyrics of a song "Dheere dheere
subah huii jaag uthi zindagi" from a forgotten '80s film 'Haisiyat'. The
female version of the song was by Lata and i guess the male version was by SPB.
Neither of them are my favourites.
>
>
>>Being a Hemant fan myself, i am look forward to this series. I hope it shall
>>help me find out which songs i am still missing.
>
>You mean you have almost all of Hemant's songs? Cool! Would you mind listing the
>collections you have..(for eg. 'Golden collection', 'Anmol Rattan'...)just so I
>know what to look for when I want to buy Hemantda's collections. Thanks.
As it is my audio collection is small. However due to my mother's interest in
Hemant Kumar songs i do have many of his songs. I will try to post them whenever
i find time.
regards
Anand
Ashok
>Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
>piousness/truth
>Neha
Looks like I miss out on all the important things when I listen to the
voice of a singer. Dilip Kumar finds the smell of daal in the voices of
Maharashtrian singers, Naushad is an expert on bazaarupan in the voices of
most female singers, and now Neha claims to find piousness and truth itself
in Hemant's voice (and perhaps impiety and falsehood in Manna Dey's voice)!
Ashok
>jo dil khoja aapna...mujhse bura na koi...
You mean it?
:)
Pradeep Dubey
Ashok wrote:
>
> In article <1998030913...@zippo.com>, neha...@hotmail.com says...
> >
>
> >Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
> >piousness/truth
>
> >Neha
>
> Looks like I miss out on all the important things when I listen to the
> voice of a singer. Dilip Kumar finds the smell of daal in the voices of
> Maharashtrian singers, Naushad is an expert on bazaarupan in the voices of
> most female singers, and now Neha claims to find piousness and truth itself
> in Hemant's voice (and perhaps impiety and falsehood in Manna Dey's voice)!
Ashok,
Just listen to Kishore and you will find it all ... I mean
pious bazarupan and truth in the 'daal' flavor :-)
Pradeep
Anil Hingorani
Hi Ashok,
Ashok wrote:
>
> In article <1998030913...@zippo.com>, neha...@hotmail.com says...
> >
>
> >Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
> >piousness/truth
>
> >Neha
>
> Looks like I miss out on all the important things when I listen to the
> voice of a singer. Dilip Kumar finds the smell of daal in the voices of
> Maharashtrian singers, Naushad is an expert on bazaarupan in the voices of
> most female singers, and now Neha claims to find piousness and truth itself
> in Hemant's voice (and perhaps impiety and falsehood in Manna Dey's voice)!
>
> Ashok
It is these intangibles that make music so palpably important in
one's life. The people you mention had their opinions and are
certainly entitled to them. For whatever reason, I can relate to it
when Neha talks about the piousness in Hemant's voice. It's a shame
that you miss out on similar feelings (good or bad) when you listen
to music.
Anil
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e-mail: hingora...@jpmorgan.com
Hemlata N Khemani
On 9 Mar 1998, Anand Tiwari wrote:
> Also a couple of weeks back i did post the lyrics of a song "Dheere dheere
> subah huii jaag uthi zindagi" from a forgotten '80s film 'Haisiyat'. The
> female version of the song was by Lata and i guess the male version was by SPB.
> Neither of them are my favourites.
The female version of this song is by S.Janaki
hema.
Hemlata N Khemani
oh I forgot to suggest you to run for your life, because you probably have
incurred Neha's wrath by saying that the female version was by Lata.:))
Hema.
chhuuha aage peeche billi...khel risky thaa...:)
KK in Sharabi.
Veena S Nayak
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Anil Hingorani wrote:
>
> It is these intangibles that make music so palpably important in
> one's life. The people you mention had their opinions and are
> certainly entitled to them. For whatever reason, I can relate to it
> when Neha talks about the piousness in Hemant's voice. It's a shame
> that you miss out on similar feelings (good or bad) when you listen
> to music.
>
> Anil
Personal, subjective "feelings" about the voice of a singer may
play an important role in one's enjoyment of a song. However, to
pass it off as an indispensible part of music appreciation is
like claiming that one is a fully functioning adult because
one can urinate/defecate/copulate (pick whichever makes you
feel good).
Pigeonholing a singer on the basis of one's "feelings" about his
voice does him grave injustice. Those who cannot see past the
"spirituality" or "sweet purity" of Lata's voice will probably not
appreciate the eroticism in 'O nirdayi preetham'. Or, consider the
song 'O jag ke rakhwAle' where Manna Dey shakes and sweats with piety
for the entire song: in the end another voice sings only one line,
'kiya sab kuch tere hawAle, o jag ke rakhwAle' with unparalleled
submission and Dey falls like a septuagenarian's tooth. But if
you are accustomed to thinking that Dey voice is more pious
than yodel-boy's, you will have missed it and may not even recognise
the latter. And if you are Naushad, you will probably start unbuttoning
your sherwani when Asha sings 'Pandurang kaanthi'.
Veena
Anil Hingorani
Aern't you saying the same thing, and just going round in circles.
After declaring pompously that the singer is 'pigeonholed' on the
basis of feelings, you go right ahead and do the exact same thing
by claiming, for example, the eroticism is missed in Lata's voice.
I guess for someone like you, eroticism has more of a meaning than
piousness and is not merely a "feeling", hence it is more acceptable.
I have been on RMIM for a few years now and I have yet to come across
anyone who uses such obnoxious language. Is it that you are incapable
of decent words or do you just need to wash your mouth/thought with
soap water occasioanlly.
Veena S Nayak
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Anil Hingorani wrote:
> Aern't you saying the same thing, and just going round in circles.
> After declaring pompously that the singer is 'pigeonholed' on the
> basis of feelings, you go right ahead and do the exact same thing
> by claiming, for example, the eroticism is missed in Lata's voice.
> I guess for someone like you, eroticism has more of a meaning than
> piousness and is not merely a "feeling", hence it is more acceptable.
>
> I have been on RMIM for a few years now and I have yet to come across
> anyone who uses such obnoxious language. Is it that you are incapable
> of decent words or do you just need to wash your mouth/thought with
> soap water occasioanlly.
>
> Anil
Swami Anildas ji,
SAshtAng Namaskaar! I am deeply penitent for causing you to bristle with
moral outrage. Words cannot express the immeasurable pain I feel at the
the copious discharge of your self-righteous juices. I realise that my
sins are unpardonable, but still, I do humbly request that you allow
me to enroll in your camp. I am particularly interested in the following
courses:
1) Pitfalls of Logical Thinking
2) The Art of Misinterpreting and Missing the Point.
I understand you are offering a buy-two-get-one-free deal, so I would
like to enroll in 'The Soap-Water Path to Decency'.
I tremble at the thought of offending you again, but I believe one's
wrongs *must* be faced: in that offensive post, I did not imply anywhere
that eroticism is "more acceptable" than "piousness" or that my pigeonhole
is better than anyone else's (oops! Am I being indecent?). Please
enlighten me, O Master: in what way am I pigeonholing Lata by point out
the eroticism of *one* song? I was making but one small point: Songs do
have a meaning and character apart from one's subjective feelings
regarding the singer's voice. Critical appreciation of music requires
one to keep such considerations in perspective and not draw conclusions
merely based on how a voice strokes one's "feelings". However, O Supreme
Denizen of RMIM, I am confident that a few days of your glorious society
will rid me of these silly notions. I will develop your keen faculty
of hitting immediately on the wrong conclusion instead of going around
in circles.
It is also my prayer that I will imbibe some piety and decency from
Your Holy Self. However, obnoxious wretch that I am, I could not help
peeking into my Devil's Dictionary. And there it is, on page 55:
IMPIETY: Your irreverence toward my deity.
Perhaps, something similar could be said of indecency as well?
I remain,
Your duly chastised,
Veena
Sanjeev Kumar
Veena S Nayak wrote:
> Personal, subjective "feelings" about the voice of a singer may
> play an important role in one's enjoyment of a song. However, to
> pass it off as an indispensible part of music appreciation is
> like claiming that one is a fully functioning adult because
> one can urinate/defecate/copulate (pick whichever makes you
> feel good).
>
> Pigeonholing a singer on the basis of one's "feelings" about his
> voice does him grave injustice. Those who cannot see past the
> "spirituality" or "sweet purity" of Lata's voice will probably not
> appreciate the eroticism in 'O nirdayi preetham'. Or, consider the
> song 'O jag ke rakhwAle' where Manna Dey shakes and sweats with piety
> for the entire song: in the end another voice sings only one line,
> 'kiya sab kuch tere hawAle, o jag ke rakhwAle' with unparalleled
> submission and Dey falls like a septuagenarian's tooth. But if
> you are accustomed to thinking that Dey voice is more pious
> than yodel-boy's, you will have missed it and may not even recognise
> the latter. And if you are Naushad, you will probably start
> unbuttoning your sherwani when Asha sings 'Pandurang kaanthi'.
Whao! Whoa! Hold on, Lady! How can you make such a ghastly remark based
on somebody in the newsgroup read/heard something about Naushad opining
about Asha's voice qulity and still it is debatable in which context
Naushad made that comment or whether he really had such views. If you
are trying to be sarcastic (Believe me, you really have a weird sense
of sarcasm), I believe, there are other milder ways of pushing
your opinions.
Accepting the point you are making, don't you feel your are handicapping
your credibility by using bad metaphors? I guess we all, almost
always, draw a line between what is a frank speak and what isn't.
Yes, it is gross injustice towards the singer, if he is criticised for
not touching the audience's feelings in a certain way, compared to
what another singer does. It is quite similar to the views of a
modern-art critic and there is no one certain way of enjoying music.
Sanjeev
Pradeep Dubey
Hemlata N Khemani wrote:
>
> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Hemlata N Khemani wrote:
>
> > > Also a couple of weeks back i did post the lyrics of a song "Dheere dheere
> > > subah huii jaag uthi zindagi" from a forgotten '80s film 'Haisiyat'. The
> > > female version of the song was by Lata and i guess the male version was by SPB.
> > > Neither of them are my favourites.
> >
> > The female version of this song is by S.Janaki
I have never heard the female version of this song but the male
version is one of the best ever Yesudas songs. Great composition
by Bappi L.
Pradeep
neha...@hotmail.com
In article <1998030918...@zippo.com>, an...@cegt201.bradley.edu says...
>I am not contesting his right to start off a series with a particular song. I
>was just curious. You have twisted my words to suit your purpose.
Your tone was not curious.
>>(and not everyone believes that one should post songs/lyrics only where one
>>think one's idol did the best...ref: thread 'ek baat dil mein aayi hai..'
>>>>...next you will ask him to post only solos hmm??:)))
>I never said that i will post songs in which my favourite singer did the best.
>I enjoyed the song and wished to share it with others. Too bad if you cannot
>digest it and keep referring to it every now and then.
Anand, either you have a very convenient memory or you are a bad liar. Here is
the clip I am referring to:
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Anand>regarding Lata's voice i would not care less. "Mere to KK Bhagwaan, doosro
Anand>na koii" :-) :-) (What do you say Pradeep?)
Neha>The way Lata joins's with a beautiful 'oo~~~~~' is beautiful.
Neha>What made you not write the second antara?
Anand>Because Kishore was not present in the second antara :-):-)
Chetan>It is you who does not give credit where it is due. Unless KK is
Chetan>involved. Your current post is a classic example. Who other than a blind
Chetan>fanatic would care to post ONLY those stanzas sung by his/her idol and
Chetan>leave out the rest of the song JUST because it was somebody else's
Chetan>contribution. It is a mutilation of the song itself, an insult to its
Chetan>creators.
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Remember now? So dont try to wiggle out, when dejanews archives everything:). If
you dish out worms, of course my vegetarian stomach cant digest it!!:))
Hema fatuously wastes bandwidth(as usual):
>oh I forgot to suggest you to run for your life, because you probably have
>incurred Neha's wrath by saying that the female version was by Lata.:))
I have no idea which song you are talking of and I couldn't care less for all
ignoramous ramblings...
Ashok, I am going to ignore your bait for flames(regarding voice quality)!!:))
Apparently, others, who desire to make an impudent display of offensive
vocabulary seem to have already welcomed your bait and spewed all kinds of
opinions!!
--
Neha
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Hemlata N Khemani
On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Pradeep Dubey wrote:
> I have never heard the female version of this song but the male
> version is one of the best ever Yesudas songs. Great composition
> by Bappi L.
agree with you. BTW, there is one more Bappi L. song whose antara sounds
more or less like this song, only a bit skewed. The song was "pyar kabhi
kam nahin karna" from Prem Pratigya, sung by Bappi himself with Asha.
This guy ruined his own song with his own voice!
Hema.
Anand Tiwari
In article <35058B...@watson.ibm.com>, Pradeep says...
>
>Hemlata N Khemani wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Hemlata N Khemani wrote:
>>
>>> > Also a couple of weeks back i did post the lyrics of a song "Dheere dheere
>> > > subah huii jaag uthi zindagi" from a forgotten '80s film 'Haisiyat'. The
>>> > female version of the song was by Lata and i guess the male version was by
>>SPB.
>> > > Neither of them are my favourites.
>> >
>
>I have never heard the female version of this song but the male
>version is one of the best ever Yesudas songs. Great composition
>by Bappi L.
>
>
IIRC, only the female version appears in the film. I can still remember
JayaPrada in a pink saree with a background of sunrise. The colours were
subdued and beautiful.
regards
Anand
Anand Tiwari
In article <1998031013...@zippo.com>, neha...@hotmail.com says...
>
>In article <1998030918...@zippo.com>, an...@cegt201.bradley.edu says...
>
>>I am not contesting his right to start off a series with a particular song. I
>>was just curious. You have twisted my words to suit your purpose.
>
>Your tone was not curious.
So, you are an authority now on the tone of my posts. Wow!
>
>>>(and not everyone believes that one should post songs/lyrics only where one
>>>think one's idol did the best...ref: thread 'ek baat dil mein aayi hai..'
>>>>>...next you will ask him to post only solos hmm??:)))
>>I never said that i will post songs in which my favourite singer did the best.
>>I enjoyed the song and wished to share it with others. Too bad if you cannot
>>digest it and keep referring to it every now and then.
>
>Anand, either you have a very convenient memory or you are a bad liar. Here is
>the clip I am referring to:
Neha,
Neither am i a liar nor i have a very short memory. It is you who is bent on
making an isuue out of nothing. When you dug out the posts didn't you see
the smileys at the end of 'mere to KK bhagwaan". I was making fun. Of course
in your single minded determination to fob off everything as what you say is
correct you have neglected a lot of things.
Or do you think that i put in :-) just like you put in "..." everytime you
post lyrics. Not everyone follows your methodology.
I have been long enough on RMIM to know that Deja news archives everything.
>
>----------
>Anand>regarding Lata's voice i would not care less. "Mere to KK Bhagwaan, doosro
>Anand>na koii" :-) :-) (What do you say Pradeep?)
Can't you see the smiley. It is ":" followed by "-" followed by a ")".
>
>Neha>The way Lata joins's with a beautiful 'oo~~~~~' is beautiful.
>Neha>What made you not write the second antara?
>
>Anand>Because Kishore was not present in the second antara :-):-)
Can't you see the smiley? If not then refer above.
>
>Chetan>It is you who does not give credit where it is due. Unless KK is
>Chetan>involved. Your current post is a classic example. Who other than a blind
>Chetan>fanatic would care to post ONLY those stanzas sung by his/her idol and
>Chetan>leave out the rest of the song JUST because it was somebody else's
>Chetan>contribution. It is a mutilation of the song itself, an insult to its
>Chetan>creators.
Pardon me but this is Chetan's interpretation not mine. I and Chetan are
two different person's.
>----------
>
>Remember now? So dont try to wiggle out, when dejanews archives everything:).
No i am not trying to wiggle out! And i am going to follow this thread and
refute your extrapolated claims about what i said. You see to be knowing me
more than i know myself. And it seems that i am not even allowed to put
a smiley and make a joke because you will always claim something else.
I am NOT wiggling out. This has got to stop! You cannot keep on quoting
my posts, interpreting them the way you want, make baseless allegations about
my intentions and brand me a liar. Enough is Enough!
regards
Anand
>If
>you dish out worms, of course my vegetarian stomach cant digest it!!:))
Can't help if people hallucinate and see worms where there are none.
Hemlata N Khemani
On 10 Mar 1998 neha...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hema fatuously wastes bandwidth(as usual):
> >oh I forgot to suggest you to run for your life, because you probably have
> >incurred Neha's wrath by saying that the female version was by Lata.:))
>
> I have no idea which song you are talking of and I couldn't care less for all
> ignoramous ramblings...
Firstly, you haven't spelled "ignoramus" correectly, which gave me a hard
time trying to find its meaning in the online dictionary.
Secondly, do you ever try to read the entire post, or you just scan
through to see if your name is typed somewhere and then reply to it? If
you had read that post you would have seen what song I was talking about.
As for my ignoramus ramblings, you can think anything you want.
And as for wasting bandwidth, I waste it less than you do, dadi amma.:))
> Neha
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> vaN lobhi ne kapaT rahit chhe...kaam krodh nivaarya re...
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pothii pa.Dh pa.Dh jag me.n pandit bhaya na koye
Hema.
neha...@hotmail.com
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96L.98031...@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu>,
Hemlata says...
>> Hema fatuously wastes bandwidth(as usual):
>> >oh I forgot to suggest you to run for your life, because you probably have
>> >incurred Neha's wrath by saying that the female version was by Lata.:))
>>
>> I have no idea which song you are talking of and I couldn't care less for all
>> ignoramous ramblings...
>
>Firstly, you haven't spelled "ignoramus" correectly, which gave me a hard
>time trying to find its meaning in the online dictionary.
Pardon me, O busy one! for having wasted your time. And while you are at it,
also check the spelling of 'correctly' since you are training to be an expert
nit-picker.
>Secondly, do you ever try to read the entire post, or you just scan
>through to see if your name is typed somewhere and then reply to it? If
>you had read that post you would have seen what song I was talking about.
I do read your post in which you bring in my name with no relevance whatsover.
But I what I meant was I have no idea about the song you are talking of, and I
couldnt care less if _it_ were sung by Lata or Vani.
>As for my ignoramus ramblings, you can think anything you want.
>And as for wasting bandwidth, I waste it less than you do, dadi amma.:))
Oh really? At least I dont post arbit queries when the pstats and info. are
available on dejanews archives or automailer or ISB. Since you do have access to
a dictionary try looking up the difference between 'use' and 'waste'.
--
Neha
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Hemlata N Khemani
On 11 Mar 1998 neha...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >Firstly, you haven't spelled "ignoramus" correectly, which gave me a hard
> >time trying to find its meaning in the online dictionary.
>
> Pardon me, O busy one! for having wasted your time. And while you are at it,
for wasting my time?! Your mis-spelt word gave me a "hard time" means, it
made difficult for me to find its meaning and not that it "wasted my
time"!! As for wasting my time, I wouldn't blame you. Its my fault that
I am wasting my own time in these childish arguments.
> also check the spelling of 'correctly' since you are training to be an expert
> nit-picker.
There was another mistake- the word "spelled" should have been "spelt".
> I do read your post in which you bring in my name with no relevance whatsover.
> But I what I meant was I have no idea about the song you are talking of, and I
> couldnt care less if _it_ were sung by Lata or Vani.
There was relevance but there is no point arguing over this since from the
Lata-Vani choices, it seems that you still haven't read my initial post
(and Anand's to which it was a response) properly.
> >And as for wasting bandwidth, I waste it less than you do, dadi amma.:))
>
> Oh really? At least I dont post arbit queries when the pstats and info. are
> available on dejanews archives or automailer or ISB. Since you do have access to
> a dictionary try looking up the difference between 'use' and 'waste'.
It doesn't matter or make sense to me to compare what you post as opposed
to what I post. I am happy with my postings, you are happy with yours and
the rest of the janta is happy(?) reading our nonsensical arguments on
this matter. If you think you "use" the bandwidth and I "waste" it, you
can relish your thought, savor it, bask in its glory, etc, I have no
problems. I am out of this discussion because I cannot carry on these
childish discussions anymore. You can carry on with your "archival
digging" and other childish arguments with others as usual and fully "use"
the bandwidth. In any case, I am a fatuous, ignoramus person according to
you, so how can I even share the bandwidth with your great wisdom.
Good luck.
Hema.
Vallury Prabhakar
Got to love a catfight amidst the sweetness - chocolate syrup, anyone?
In article <1998031112...@zippo.com>, <neha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In article <Pine.GSO.3.96L.98031...@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu>,
>Hemlata says...
>
>>> Hema fatuously wastes bandwidth(as usual):
>>> >oh I forgot to suggest you to run for your life, because you probably have
>>> >incurred Neha's wrath by saying that the female version was by Lata.:))
>>>
>>> I have no idea which song you are talking of and I couldn't care less for all
>>> ignoramous ramblings...
>>
>>Firstly, you haven't spelled "ignoramus" correectly, which gave me a hard
>>time trying to find its meaning in the online dictionary.
>
>Pardon me, O busy one! for having wasted your time. And while you are at it,
>also check the spelling of 'correctly' since you are training to be an expert
>nit-picker.
>
>>Secondly, do you ever try to read the entire post, or you just scan
>>through to see if your name is typed somewhere and then reply to it? If
>>you had read that post you would have seen what song I was talking about.
>
>I do read your post in which you bring in my name with no relevance whatsover.
>But I what I meant was I have no idea about the song you are talking of, and I
>couldnt care less if _it_ were sung by Lata or Vani.
>
>>As for my ignoramus ramblings, you can think anything you want.
>>And as for wasting bandwidth, I waste it less than you do, dadi amma.:))
>
>Oh really? At least I dont post arbit queries when the pstats and info. are
>available on dejanews archives or automailer or ISB. Since you do have access to
>a dictionary try looking up the difference between 'use' and 'waste'.
>
>--
>Neha
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Vandana Vidwans
neha...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hemant sounds better than Manna. Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
> piousness/truth that makes him sound more into the song than Manna.
>
> >help me find out which songs i am still missing.
jaise koi saadhu mandir mein baitHake bHajan gaa rahaa ho!".
Thus spake Lata in her Shraddhanjali cassette.
( Hey Neha read in Lata's swwwwwweet voice :) )
And writes Neha "Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
piousness/truth that makes him sound more into the song than Manna.".
I am sure Neha is in no way basing her opinion on what
Lata Mangeshkar said but is putting forth her own views ,
right Neha?
Vandana
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Good character is more to be praised than outstanding talent. Most
talents
are, to some extent, a gift. Good character, by contrast, is not given
to us.
We have to build it piece by piece - by thought, choice, courage and
determination
Sanjeev Kumar
Hemlata N Khemani wrote:
>
>...blah...blah...> ..blah..blah...
It is so confusing! You guys must've met in some RMIM meets and you
guys know each other very well and when you guys go into these bouts,
we really don't know whether you guys really mean what you say or is it
that even tho you say things to each other, it is like "chalta hain"
types, all in yaara-yaari, dosti. So, whenever you guys get into such
moods, please use a private channel called e-mail or better s-mail and
have only "real" fights on the net. I remember somebody calling somebody
a obnoxious bugger on the net, and later on explained that the other
person won't really mind it as they know each other very well.
This is called "taang adana", I guess.
Sanjeev
neha...@hotmail.com
In article <35071F87...@malkauns.csd.sgi.com>, Vandana Vidwans
<van...@malkauns.csd.sgi.com> wrote:
>
> neha...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>Hemant sounds better than Manna. Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality
>>of piousness/truth that makes him sound more into the song than Manna.
>
> jaise koi saadhu mandir mein baitHake bHajan gaa rahaa ho!".
> ( Hey Neha read in Lata's swwwwwweet voice :) )
> And writes Neha "Hemant's voice, maybe, has that quality of
> piousness/truth that makes him sound more into the song than Manna.".
> I am sure Neha is in no way basing her opinion on what
> Lata Mangeshkar said but is putting forth her own views ,
> right Neha?
Vandana,
I could almost hear you mimic Lata's sweeeet voice:))
Lata also says (in her book 'Phule vicheta') about Asha :
"In the field of Hindi music, two composers suited her very well. OP and RD.
Her voice was utilized very well in "JAiye aap kahaan", "yeh hai reshmi
zulfon ka andhera" and the songs that she has sung for Pancham are all
excellent."
and
"Regarding Asha's singing talents, I must say that there is no other artist as
versatile as she is. As I said, Asha can sing all types of songs very well.
However, western style songs or semi-classical qawwalis fit her voice
perfectly."
And, needless to say, I do not agree with that. Just so you know that I always
put forth my own views when I opine/write. When I want to use others' opinion,
I would quote them, not put them across as my own views.
Thanks for reminding me of the Shradhhanjali tapes. I love them, though people
feel that Lata should not have done it... I am glad she did and now I dig it
out and give it a re-run.:)
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Neha
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sooraj na badla...chaand na badla...na badala re aasmaan...
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Ashok
In article <6er83i$8ih$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, neha...@hotmail.com says...
>
><van...@malkauns.csd.sgi.com> wrote:
>> "jab hemantda gaate hai to aaise lagataa hai
>> jaise koi saadhu mandir mein baitHake bHajan gaa rahaa ho!".
>> Thus spoke Lata in her Shraddhanjali cassette.
Is that really a compliment? (To the saadhu, yes, but to Hemant?!)
>Vandana,
>Lata also says (in her book 'Phule vicheta') about Asha :
>
>"In the field of Hindi music, two composers suited her very well. OP and RD.
>Her voice was utilized very well in "JAiye aap kahaan", "yeh hai reshmi
>zulfon ka andhera" and the songs that she has sung for Pancham are all
>excellent."
>
>and
>
>"Regarding Asha's singing talents, I must say that there is no other artist
as
>versatile as she is. As I said, Asha can sing all types of songs very well.
>However, western style songs or semi-classical qawwalis fit her voice
>perfectly."
>
>And, needless to say, I do not agree with that.
It is very needful for you to elaborate. There are many non-simple sentences
above. "What" exactly you do not agree with? It is too easy to disagree
with
"the songs she has sung for Pancham are ALL excellent", but that would be
quibbling. What are your essential disagreements?
>Just so you know that I always
>put forth my own views when I opine/write. When I want to use others'
opinion,
>I would quote them, not put them across as my own views.
>Neha
Great! But wouldn't the girl-scout (or boy-scout) outlook get tiresome after
a point? :)
Ashok
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>sooraj na badla...chaand na badla...na badala re aasmaan...
>kitna badal gaya insaan...
If insaan didn't change, we would still be in the caves!