Marathi Songs by Non marathi speaking Singers
Prakash Pradhan
1. Shabd mala pureshya na hoti artha sarech sangoon jato - Yesudas
2. Ghe zakun Mukhade chandramukhi - Talat mahmood
3. na Khant nahi khed - Talat
4. Aaj mi nathaghari - kailasnath Jayswal
5. Aag pori sambal - Mahendra Kapoor - Pushpa Pagdhare
Can someone help find them?
Cricfan
Sorry, I cannot help you, but the topic is interesting. A couple of my
favorite Marathi songs sung by non-Maharashtrian singers are;
1. riNanubandha_chya - Vani Jairam and Pt. Kumar Gandharva
2. uTHi uTHi gopaaLaa - Vani Jairam & Pt. Kumar Gandharva
Well, strictly speaking Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Pt. Mallikarjun Mansur and
Ms. Gangubai Hangal have also done great justice to Marathi songs.
However, since they are (Kannada speakers) from north Karnataka,
theyre familiar with Marathi since it is also widely spoken in that
region and they may not fall in your category (non marathi speaking).
An entire thread on this topic on rmim can be found at;
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=74e77f71f8d29a52,24&seekm=58acp4%24664%40lex.zippo.com#p
Cheers
Arun
Prakash Pradhan
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My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
1 63 Shodhisi manava Rauli mandiri M. Rafi **
2 61 Devtulya baba maze M. Kapoor
2 89 Aali Tuzyz dari (who is sher) Roshantara Begum
3 70 Nako bhavya wada M. Rafi
71 Ha chhand jiwala laavi pise M. Rafi **
75 Ghadiche pravasi M. Kapoor
79 Ghe zakun mukhade chandra Talat
104 Na khant naahi khed Talat
4 53 Pkulwit ja tu M. Kapoor
55 Harusava sod sakhi pure ha M. Rafi **
5 20 Prakashantale tare tumhi M. Rafi ** (Hasa mulano hasa)
33 Rasika tuzyach sathi Parween Sultan
54 Aaj mi natha ghari (who is he) Kailasnath Jayaswal
72 Mi dolkar2 Lata/ Hemant **
6 35 Jevha tula mi Talat
59 Aag pori sambhal M. Rafi/ P. Pagdhare **
7 19 Prabhu tu dayala M. Rafi **
8 19 Rani tuzya najrene M. Kapoor
9 44 Re mana saad ghali M. Rafi **
56 Ti yete anik jaate M. Kapoor **
107 Swapnat mi tuzya M. Kapoor/ S. Malhotra
10 10 Neej re neej Lata/ M. Kapoor
( ** ) Songs and others not mentioned here are also available on other
Marathi web sites:
My interest in the songs is for making my own personal audio copy of
above singers :
1. Parween Sultan – I haven’t heard this song (as above)
2. Yesudas – Shabdmala pureshya na hoti aarth sarech sangoon
jaato
3. Talat – ghe zakun mukhade chandramukhi
I have ( I wish to record my thanks to the respective web sites ) 2
songs of Hemant Kumar with Lata; 1 (and only) by Kishor-Anuradha
Paudwal; 4 by M. Kapoor and 4 by Rafi. I need at least the above 3
songs on audio format.
This will certainlr increase your interest
Prakash
Abhay Phadnis
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> My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
> Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
> Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
> Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
One song that I did not see in your list is a Rafi number that goes
he chi.ncheche zaaD dise maza
chinaar v^Rkshaa parii
(disashii tuu) 2
navataruNii kaashmirii
An awful song, awfully sung, but fits into your criteria! Unfortunately,
can't remember the credits - I only remember it is in a B/W Marathi film.
Warm regards,
Abhay
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> Ms. Gangubai Hangal have also done great justice to Marathi songs.
I have heard quite a few Marathi songs sung by both Bhimsen Joshi and
Mansur, but don't recall ever hearing Gangubai Hangal sing a Marathi song.
Any specific leads?
Warm regards,
Abhay
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> My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
> Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
> Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
> Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
>
>
> Marathi web sites:
>
> >
> >
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> >
[I went through the entire thread but could not find the song I am about to
discuss below. I searched on google with the keyword 'Geeta Dutt and
Marathi' but got too many hits. It is not possible to go through all of
them. So I am going to take a risk and talk about it anyway hoping that even
if it is discussed before, may be somebody missed it. I apologize to all of
the rest who already know about it.]
Many years ago, every Sunday afternoon from 2.30 to 3.30 on Vividh Bharati,
somebody from the film industry used to present his/her favourite songs.
Later they started a similar thing, I think Saturday night for half an hour,
in Marathi. One such program was presented by either Shrinivas Khale or
Yashawant Dev. He talked very highly about a song sung by Geeta Dutt before
playing it. I don't remember whether he himself had composed it or not. Has
anybody heard 'Jaa saa.ng, jaa saa.ng laxmaNaa saan.g raamraayaalaa' ? I
haven't found it on any of the compilations that are available. Thank God
they repeated the program a few months later. :-)
It is an absolutely magnificient song, IMO favourably comparable to any of
her finest Hindi song I know. It expresses the pain Sita feels when Laxman
leaves her in the forest due to the order by Ram, when she was pregnant. It
is a sad occasion but Sita doesn't want to display her sorrow when she bids
farewell to Laxman. And the composition is perfect. It is not the type of
tune like 'Meraa sundar sapanaa biit gayaa' which you recognize from a mile
that somebody is crying. If a non Marathi person listens the song without
understanding the words, he may even think it is a happy song. But there is
an under current of pain through out and Geeta brought it out so well while
singing it. In the thread above, people discussed how flawlessly some non
Marathi singers sang Marathi songs. Was this song flawlessly sung? IMO
almost yes, but if you don't know it is sung by Geeta, a Marathi person can
still detect a little bit of foreign accent. And how it adds to the charm of
the song. I would take this any day over a flawless rendition. Especially
the way she sang the word 'saa.ng'. It was more like 'saaaaaa.ng' and
slightly nasal. It is a type of song that just requires a singer to put lots
of heart in it and nobody can beat Geeta on that score.
Anant
Ganesh
This song is by far (In my opinion)the most popular marathi song sung
by a Non marathi speaking Singers.
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> >
> > My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
> > Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
> > Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
> > Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
> >
> >
> > ( ** ) Songs and others not mentioned here are also available on other
> > Marathi web sites:
> >
> > >
> > > An entire thread on this topic on rmim can be found at;
> > >
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=74e77f71f8d29a52,24&seekm=
> 58acp4%24664%40lex.zippo.com#p
> > >
>
> >
> somebody from the film industry used to present his/her favourite songs.
> Later they started a similar thing, I think Saturday night for half an hour,
> in Marathi. One such program was presented by either Shrinivas Khale or
> Yashawant Dev. He talked very highly about a song sung by Geeta Dutt before
> playing it. I don't remember whether he himself had composed it or not. Has
> anybody heard 'Jaa saa.ng, jaa saa.ng laxmaNaa saan.g raamraayaalaa' ? I
> haven't found it on any of the compilations that are available. Thank God
> they repeated the program a few months later. :-)
>
> > Anant
Dear Anant: thanks for the info. And Yes I have heard this song log
ago. The next line is "Samajala Mhanave Nyay Tuza seetela ssss (for
Alap) Ja saang ja saang. I will try find this song when I next visit
Mumbai. This is indeed a melodious song.
Cricfan
I do not have a tape, but many years ago I saw/heard her singing a
Marathi abhang on tv. Not sure whether it has been recorded/released
as a tape. Offhand, I can't recall what the programme was, but it
could've been "Pratibha ani Pratima". (speculation)
I did have Pt. Bhimsen Joshi's (audio) interview on PAP. Very good
anecdotal stuff. Do they have such programmes on Bombay DD anymore? Or
they did disappear after Ms. Suhasini Moolgaonkar's demise?
Arun
Prakash Pradhan
Abhay, This is sung by Mahendra Kapoor (not Rafi) ; film Madhuchandra
filmed on late Dr. Kashinath Ghanekar. There is one more song (Title
song - Madhu Ithe un chandra tithe zurato andharat by MK) Pradhan
Prakash Pradhan
In continuation of my earlier comment on the above: here is more info:
The song is written by Vasant Bapat , music G.N. Joshi Singer as U
rightly said Geeta Roy-Dutt. This info is from the book: Gaani
Manatli, Galyatli vol 1. pg. 134 song no. 98 This is a good collection
of 10 vols. I have the song on cassette. Go to Alurkar Pune and ask
for cassette No. 627. U will get this song in it.
Prakash Pradhan.
Cricfan
.further to my previous post..I did a quick search on Altavista and I
found this
article;
http://www.hinduonnet.com/folio/fo9811/98110160.htm
"Sawai Gandharva attracted disciples like Bhimsen Joshi, Firoz Dastur,
Basavaraj Rajguru and Gangubai Hangal. He cast such a spell on them
that Joshi holds an annual festival in his guru's name in Pune, and
unfailingly performs in Kundgol on the master's anniversary. There he
is joined by fellow sishyas like Gangubai. "
<speculation mode again> I wonder whether it was a snippet from the
above programme that I saw and not PAP. Another possibility is that I
could be completely off track w.r.t GH & Marathi and it may be my
senility </speculation>
Cheers
Arun
Pradeep
That was a beautiful song. But I was under the impression it was sung
by Janaki Iyyer? It used to be played on Bombay 'B' very often during
the mid-late fiftees.
Since Anant has dwelt upon the theme of this song at some length, let
me digress a bit here from the main thread. On the same theme, Vasant
Prabhu + P Sawalaram + Lata gave us a fabulous song, " Shrirama,
Ghanashyama" very much around the same time as Jaa Saang Laxmana. The
lyrics of this song were beautiful ( Baghayache jar nasel majala, ye
na baalasathi, Char karamcha komal vilakha padu de shyamal kanthi,
Tatatutichya bheti ghadata zarazara amrit othi, Mitun dole mhanen
maaze Ramayan sampale", the tune melodious, and Lata sang the song so
well!
To the list of Marathi songs sung by non-Marathi singers, also add "Mi
Tuza Hoto Kadhi He Sarva Tu Visrun Ja" by Mukesh. (This was a film
song, music by Vasant Pawar?)
...Pradeep
Anant Rege
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> > > My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
> > > Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
> > > Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
> > > Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
> > >
> > >
> > > ( ** ) Songs and others not mentioned here are also available on other
> > > Marathi web sites:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > An entire thread on this topic on rmim can be found at;
> > > >
> >
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>
> The song is written by Vasant Bapat , music G.N. Joshi Singer as U
> rightly said Geeta Roy-Dutt. This info is from the book: Gaani
> Manatli, Galyatli vol 1. pg. 134 song no. 98 This is a good collection
> of 10 vols. I have the song on cassette. Go to Alurkar Pune and ask
> for cassette No. 627. U will get this song in it.
> Prakash Pradhan.
I got that cassette taped from Alurkar many years ago. The only reason I did
not suggested it in my original post was because I was told that Alurkar has
stopped taping anymore.
Will half Marathi singers do for your collection? There are quite a few
lovely songs by Madhubala chawla, Zaveri, daughter of a Marathi mother and
Gujrathi father. 'Jivaachaa jivalaga nandalaalaa re', 'ZuLa zuLatyaa
odhyaachyaa, kaa ubhii kaaThaalaa' to new a few.
Anant
naniwadekar
Prakash Pradhan <pra...@emirates.net.ae> wrote -
> "Abhay Phadnis" <apha...@hotmail.com> wrote -
> >
> > he chi.ncheche zaaD dise maza
> > chinaar v^Rkshaa parii
> > (disashii tuu) 2
> > navataruNii kaashmirii
> >
> > An awful song, awfully sung, but fits into your criteria! Unfortunately,
> > can't remember the credits - I only remember it is in a B/W Marathi
film.
>
> filmed on late Dr. Kashinath Ghanekar. There is one more song (Title
> song - Madhu Ithe un chandra tithe zurato andharat by MK) Pradhan
>
It has M Kaps written all over it. I only wish
Rafi had sung it. Then again, if you can listen
to 'neele gagan ke tale', maybe you will enjoy
this awful rendition, too.
Happy listenings.
- dn
Cricfan
Btw, I would categorize Ms. Kirti Shiledar as a true blood
Maharashtrian. I am not so sure about her mother, Ms. Jayamala
Shiledar. She speaks Kannada with a north Karnataka dialect. [Many
years ago, my mom went to congratulate her after a performance in Pune
and they spoke briefly in Kannada]
Now, i am not knowledgeable about Marathi Natya sangeet, although I
have quite a few tapes & love the genre. I absolutely *adore* Ms.
Jayamala Shiledar. Among the many songs I like, is 'asatAna yati
satriDha" (my Itrans spelling as you realise is atrocious) from
"Saubhadra". I have also got a very bad quality tape - I had recorded
it directly from tv - of Pt. Bhimsen Joshi singing the same song
brilliantly during a Pratibha Ani Pratima interview in which he also
mentioned that this particular style of singing is extinct. It is sung
in what he called the 'hAhAhA' style (bw, that's not a laugh, although
it spells like it). Ms. Shiledar has sung in that style too. Would
someone be kind enough to translate this song for me, please?
Another beautiful Jayamala Shiledar rendition is " Nayaney
Lajaveeta"/mAnapmAn.
Cheers
Arun
naniwadekar
Cricfan <asi...@my-deja.com> wrote -
>
> Btw, I would categorize Ms. Kirti Shiledar as a true blood
> Maharashtrian. I am not so sure about her mother, Ms. Jayamala
> Shiledar. She speaks Kannada with a north Karnataka dialect. [Many
> years ago, my mom went to congratulate her after a performance in Pune
> and they spoke briefly in Kannada]
>
Her brother, Kamalakar Jadhav, was a tabla teacher
in Nagpur. He was also a music-teacher in my school,
alongwith Sharad SutawaNe, who is a gifted composer.
Jadhav family has moved to Pune now. Kamalakar-ji's
son, Shri(nivas, I think), runs a music school in Pune.
Thanks to Kamalakar-ji's squint, we used to complain
to him that whenever he was the invigilator during exams,
cheating became impossible. One could never be sure
which direction he was looking in.
- dn
naniwadekar
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote -
> >
> Jayamala-bai is also a true blooded Maharashtrian.
> Her brother, Kamalakar Jadhav, was a tabla teacher
> in Nagpur.
>
Bhimsen on organ for his Abhangwani programmes. I
think she has lent harmonium support also to BJ's
Abhangwani on occasion. But I can't recall her name.
Vasanti Mhapsekar or some such name ...
- dn
Pradeep
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>
> Btw, I would categorize Ms. Kirti Shiledar as a true blood
> Maharashtrian. I am not so sure about her mother, Ms. Jayamala
> Shiledar. She speaks Kannada with a north Karnataka dialect. [Many
> years ago, my mom went to congratulate her after a performance in Pune
> and they spoke briefly in Kannada]
Mr. Jayram Shiledar.
Judging by the rate at which several prominent Marathi singers are
being snared by non-Maharashtrians, Lata, Asha and HM would be
'claimed' by Goans, Manik Verma and Malati Pande by UPites. That would
leave us, Maharashtrians, with Krishna Kalle and Pushpa Pagdhare to
contend with :)
...Pradeep
Prakash Pradhan
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> > Judging by the rate at which several prominent Marathi singers are
> being snared by non-Maharashtrians, Lata, Asha and HM would be
> 'claimed' by Goans, Manik Verma and Malati Pande by UPites. That would
> leave us, Maharashtrians, with Krishna Kalle and Pushpa Pagdhare to
> contend with :)
>
> ...Pradeep
Pradeep Thanks for coming to my help, I was wondering where I started
this topic and where is it going? Those singers who have "N" number of
marathi songs to their credits, I was not talking about them, but
basically M. Rafi, M. Kapoor, Yesudas, Kishor kumar, Talat, (the next
2 added by my friends here)Mukesh, Geeta Dutt, the intension was also
collect the songs I requested above and make a CD for personal
collection. Geeta dutt info was excellent. I have 14 such songs MR-4;
MK-5; KK-1; GD-1; HK with Lata-2; Manna dey-1 (Gopala gopala Devki
Nandan Gopala); I have also sung in "Gharelu Baithak", songs of Talat
(Ghe Zakun Mukhade) and Yasudas (Shabd mala Pureshya na hoti) way back
in 1984 but originals are missing from my collection. Request once
again to all--Pl. help. Prakash Pradhan
naniwadekar
> this topic and where is it going? Those singers who have "N" number of
> marathi songs to their credits, I was not talking about them, but
> basically M. Rafi, M. Kapoor, Yesudas, Kishor kumar, Talat, (the next
> 2 added by my friends here)Mukesh, Geeta Dutt, the intension was also
> collect the songs I requested above and make a CD for personal
> collection. Geeta dutt info was excellent. I have 14 such songs MR-4;
> MK-5; KK-1; GD-1; HK with Lata-2; Manna dey-1 (Gopala gopala Devki
> Nandan Gopala); I have also sung in "Gharelu Baithak", songs of Talat
> (Ghe Zakun Mukhade) and Yasudas (Shabd mala Pureshya na hoti) way back
> in 1984 but originals are missing from my collection. Request once
> again to all--Pl. help. Prakash Pradhan
I don't remember whether the following four songs
have already been mentioned in the thread.
Two Talat songs from film 'Putr whaawaa aisaa',
MD - Vasant Prabhu.
solo - yash he amrut jhaale (Talat will make you
think this is a sad song. Still, it is listenable, if you like him.)
duet with Lata - swapne manaatalii kaa. (Lata all the way)
Rafi - 'shodhisii maanavaa raa_uLi, mandirii'. Rafi is not
sure here whether to sing it in Rafi style or M Kaps style.
Manna Dey - 'ghan ghan maalaa nabhii daaTalyaa'.
Lyrics - Ga Di Madgulkar. I don't remember its MD.
Either Khan Mastana or Ghulam Mustafa Durrani had
sung a few Marathi songs long ago. Isaak Muzawar
should be able to give you the details and also point
you to a collector who has got the songs. Check with
Mukund Acharya, who runs a recording shop in Mumbai.
A CD is floating around featuring Marathi songs by
non-Marathi singers. But I couldn't spot it yesterday
at the local RAAGA shop.
To add to the list, Basavraj Rajguru has sung two
'songs' (light classical pieces) : 'lok timire something someth...'
and 'kuNaalaa prem maagaawe'. Lovely songs, both.
Mansur spent some time in Maharashtra, spoke very
good Marathi. Does he qualify? His 'hii raat sawat baa_ii'
should be available with some recordist. Plus there
are a few more by Mansur.
Abdul Karim Khan saheb has recorded natyasangeet.
- dn
Ket...@att.net
>Jayamala-bai is also a true blooded Maharashtrian.
>Her brother, Kamalakar Jadhav, was a tabla teacher
>in Nagpur. He was also a music-teacher in my school,
>alongwith Sharad SutawaNe, who is a gifted composer.
>Jadhav family has moved to Pune now. Kamalakar-ji's
>son, Shri(nivas, I think), runs a music school in Pune.
>
>Thanks to Kamalakar-ji's squint, we used to complain
>to him that whenever he was the invigilator during exams,
>cheating became impossible. One could never be sure
>which direction he was looking in.
>I forgot to add that Jayamala's sister used to accompany
>Bhimsen on organ for his Abhangwani programmes. I
>think she has lent harmonium support also to BJ's
>Abhangwani on occasion. But I can't recall her name.
>Vasanti Mhapsekar or some such name ...
Which hand--left or right did she use to press the keys, when she gave support
to BJ's programs?
If you don't know, maybe you can explain how all this wonderful information has
any relevance to the subject header? Is there anyone's personal life, physical
disabilities(which may or may not have assisted you in your educational
pursuits), what they ate, wore, cursed or anything else--unknown to you?
Don't get me wrong--your information is not uninteresting. However you have too
much of the milk of human information in your breasts, and we have small mouths.
Ketan
naniwadekar
<Ket...@att.net> wrote -
>
> If you don't know, maybe you can explain how all this wonderful
information has
> any relevance to the subject header? Is there anyone's personal life,
physical
> disabilities(which may or may not have assisted you in your educational
> pursuits), what they ate, wore, cursed or anything else--unknown to you?
>
Discussions often make departures from subject headers,
as you know very well. As for some info about Jadhavs
and Shiledars mentioned by me, I know it thanks to the
accident of having Shri Kamalakar Jadhav as a teacher
in my school. His younger son was my class-mate. That
is what emboldened us friends to discuss cheating during
exam with our school-teacher.
> Don't get me wrong--your information is not uninteresting. However you
have too
> much of the milk of human information in your breasts, and we have small
mouths.
>
Mind your language, Ketan. This is a public forum :)
Besides, the plural is wrong. The correct usage
is : 'in your breast' . As for me having too much of miThaa_ii
of human information, how I wish that were more
true than it actually is!!
- dn
Cricfan
> > "Abhay Phadnis" <apha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9ll1pn$9obbi$1...@ID-75300.news.dfncis.de>...
> > <stuff snipped-->
> >
> > Btw, I would categorize Ms. Kirti Shiledar as a true blood
> > Maharashtrian. I am not so sure about her mother, Ms. Jayamala
> > Shiledar. She speaks Kannada with a north Karnataka dialect. [Many
> > years ago, my mom went to congratulate her after a performance in Pune
> > and they spoke briefly in Kannada]
>
> Mrs. Jayamalabai Shiledar was Pramila Jadhav before her marriage to
> Mr. Jayram Shiledar.
>
Thanks to Nani and you for clarifying the antecedents of Ms. Shiledar.
> Judging by the rate at which several prominent Marathi singers are
> being snared by non-Maharashtrians, Lata, Asha and HM would be
> 'claimed' by Goans, Manik Verma and Malati Pande by UPites. That would
> leave us, Maharashtrians, with Krishna Kalle and Pushpa Pagdhare to
> contend with :)
>
> ...Pradeep
Ah! But you have a) Pt. Jitendra Abhisheki and b)Pt. Vasantrao
Deshpande. That to me is like having Lara & Tendulkar in the batting
order and complaining about Robin Singh :-))
Cheers
Arun
VANDANA VIDWANS
Prakash Pradhan wrote:
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> 1. Shabd mala pureshya na hoti artha sarech sangoon jato - Yesudas
> 2. Ghe zakun Mukhade chandramukhi - Talat mahmood
> 3. na Khant nahi khed - Talat
maziyaa mri^tut vhaavii
I think by Mahendra Kapoor. MD : Hridaynath Mangeshkar.
Vandana
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Surprisingly, in all these posts I have never seen a song sung by
Bhupendra. Its a wonderful 'bhaavgeet'.
"dislis eakadaa fulalya shaarad raatri baharali fula.ni
nishiga.ndhaachi nati"
and i guess there is another song similar to this song by Bhupendra
only, which I cannot remember now.
thanks,
deepak.
naniwadekar
>
> Ah! But you have a) Pt. Jitendra Abhisheki and b)Pt. Vasantrao
> Deshpande. That to me is like having Lara & Tendulkar in the batting
> order and complaining about Robin Singh :-))
>
Both Goa and Maharashtra claim Lata, since she is cricket's
Bradman (with as poor a choice as Bradman when it comes to
selecting all-time X or XI).
As for Abhisheki, Goa has a far greater claim on him than
it has on Lata since he was born and brought up there.
Check the tribute to Dinanath which I had posted on his
centennial birth anniversary in the last week of Dec 2000.
Dinanath's disciple Prabhakar Jathar had given me lot
of information about Dinanath's and Abhisheki's
background for that article.
Abhisheki's moment of epiphany
occurred in Pune, though. He was working with AIR (Bombay
station, I think) in mid-1950s. He used to both compose
script for Konkani news and then read it himself. He must
have received some instruction in music in his childhood.
One day, while on a walk in Pune, he heard some sur which
disturbed him greatly. Hypnotised, he walked towards the
place from where the music was emanating. The place was
Keshavrao Bhole's house, the singer one Mallikarjun Mansur,
the raag being sung one Laachaari Todi. Abhisheki vowed
there and then that he would also master an aakramak brand
of gayaki. What followed is well-known. Taalim from 'Gunidas'
Jagannathbuwa Purohit; a stint as teacher in US in Ravi
Shankar's (Kinnara?) school of music; composing Marathi
songs which he alone could compose; a great career as a
concert singer and proficiency at both khayal and lighter
forms of music; and also a noteworthy career as teacher to
singers like Prabhakar Karekar, Devaki Pandit and many
others. When shall we see his like again?
In case Ketan wonders how I know about his stumbling
upon Mansur's mehfil at Keshavrao Bhole's house,
Raveendra Pinge has written an article or two on Abhisheki.
The one titled : 'Paayaa-shuddh Jitendra Abhisheki' is the
one most worth reading.
- nani
naniwadekar
> 1. Shabd mala pureshya na hoti artha sarech sangoon jato - Yesudas
> 2. Ghe zakun Mukhade chandramukhi - Talat mahmood
> 3. na Khant nahi khed - Talat
> 5. Aag pori sambal - Mahendra Kapoor - Pushpa Pagdhare
>
> Can someone help find them?
The chamachaa of s.c.i.marathi bigwigs that I am,
I am spamming this thread to that forum to curry some
favour with its worthy posters and lurkers.
- dhananjay naniwadekar
Prakash Pradhan
I have a strong feeling that "Ghan Ghan mala nabhi datalya is by Pt.
Bhimsen Joshi and its a duet. I don't know why. Prakash Pradhan and
Shodhisi manava by rafi is on sangli.com under "film" section but Real
player does not get connected.
naniwadekar
> Pt. > Bhimsen Joshi and its a duet. I don't know why.
>
Bhimsen has sung for Vasant Desai in film 'swayamvar jhale
Seeteche' ?
'ghan ghan mala' could be a duet. It certainly features
a chorus. And Manna Dey's vocals. I think it is a
Manna Dey + chorus song, not a duet.
- dn
imppio
I would consider Kumar Gandharva to be non-Marathi.
Vani Jayaram is also non-Marathi.
What about Kishori, Shobha Gurtu?
cheers,
imppio
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Shrirang Alulkar
sucks... (R there 2 many fundamentalists in India?) Discussion about
songs that to marathi is a gr8 welcome surprise and so many people...
wow..
My point: Can you really call Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Vani Jairam, and
probably Pt. Kumar Gandharva non-marathis? I mean all of them were
fluent marathi speakers. There contributions to marathi music are
phenominal...
Just wanted a point to make. It was knowledgible too.
Shri
MrBill Gates Sucks
> I would consider Kumar Gandharva to be non-Marathi.
> Vani Jayaram is also non-Marathi.
> What about Kishori, Shobha Gurtu?
>
> cheers,
> imppio
>
All of them are marathis.. You need not be born in a marathi family to
be a marathi..
bzshri
naniwadekar
Shrirang Alulkar <shriran...@hotmail.com> wrote -
Get lost, you idiot.
You can't spell a single word. You can't write a single
sentence properly. And you presume yourself to be
qualified to judge and pronounce upon which group
sucks and which doesn't?
First you learn some basic communication skills. Then
we will discuss weightier matters like which forum
should discuss what and how.
- dn
Pradeep
What was the phenomenal (if at all, any) contribution to 'Marathi
music' by Vani Jairam, please let me know. Vani Jairam may have been
great in South Indian films, but to me, even her "Bol Re Papi" sounded
terrible!
...Pradeep
Ket...@att.net
>Get lost, you idiot.
>You can't spell a single word. You can't write a single
>sentence properly. And you presume yourself to be
>qualified to judge and pronounce upon which group
>sucks and which doesn't?
>
>First you learn some basic communication skills. Then
>we will discuss weightier matters like which forum
>should discuss what and how.
Wow..what an ego. First instance of someone actually writing posts on RMIM,
adressing them to himself. Nice job of self-flagellating Nani. Keep up the good
work.
:)
Ketan
PS: Please don't tell us where it is that you are getting lost.
imppio
others will be marathi. However the issue is about marathi songs by
non-marathi speaking singers. In my opinion all the names mentioned by me
belong to non-marathi speaking singers catagory.
cheers,
imppio
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Prakash Pradhan
> In article <9m217g$c4q93$1...@ID-75735.news.dfncis.de>, "naniwadekar" says...
>
> >Get lost, you idiot.
> > >
> adressing them to himself. Nice job of self-flagellating Nani. Keep up the good
> work.
>
> :)
>
> Ketan
>
> PS: Please don't tell us where it is that you are getting lost.
FRIENDS,
This is the first time I joined this group and a help in collecting
songs is all that I sincerely request(see thread 1). Some replies were
really V.good. Will you also add Bhupender and Mukesh songs to my
list as can be seen in the following threads? Thanks and please don't
get lost, keep searching for me. May GOD help U.
Prakash Pradhan
Sanjiv Karmarkar
> Hi Marathi folks,
>
> I would consider Kumar Gandharva to be non-Marathi.
> Vani Jayaram is also non-Marathi.
> What about Kishori, Shobha Gurtu?
Kumar Gandharva was a kannada; although he spoke Marathi fluently.
Mind you, he was *not* one of the several kannada artists whose
ancestry was Marathi. Savai Gandharva, Bhimsen Joshi, Girish
Karnad, and many others were Maharashtrians settled in Karnataka
for several generations and can lay claim to being Marathi whenever
convenient! (-: Kumar Gandharva on the other hand was genuine
Kannadiga; as was Mallikarjun Mansur.
Kishori AmoNkar and Shobha Gurtu were Marathi for all practical
purposes. Technically, they were Konkani - as was Gangubai HaNgal
and the Mangeshkar family - but spoke Marathi socially.
BTW, I can't believe you guys missed the most popular Marathi
song sung by a non-Marathi:
'mii dolakar dolakar dolakar daryaachaa raajaa' sung by
Hemantkumar! (Along with Lata Mangeshkar; Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar, lyrics: Shanta SheLke)
Sanjiv
Sachin Sunil Tatake
Dinanath Mangeshkar's father was shri Ganesh Navathe a karhade
brahman. So i think the Mangeshkar's should be classified marathi.
However Kishori Amonkar was nee Kurdikar which is konkani, though I agree
with you that she should be considered marathi.
A famous singer, writer, composer is Amar Sheikh - 1940s. His works are
excellent and are collectibles today. The RPG Millenium collection has
one "suTalaa vaDaLii vaaraa" which I have. Seniors may be able to suggest
others.
Sachin.
ajit
I have just registered as a member for this group.
As far as NonMarathi singers in Marathi are concerned,For that matter
even Lata and Asha are Goans.
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naniwadekar
ajit <ajit...@hotmail.com> wrote -
> Hello guys:
>
> I have just registered as a member for this group.
>
> As far as NonMarathi singers in Marathi are concerned,
> For that matter
> even Lata and Asha are Goans.
>
Marathi singers. Have they just registered
themselves as Goans? If you run into them again
at the Registration Centre, convey my 'haaaiiii'
to them. Haven't seen them for years by now.
- dn
Rajiv Mhasawade
have sung bunch of marathi songs.kavita krushnamurty,mahendra kapoor
etc,even altaf raja has sung a marathi song recently.
rajiv
rcm...@yahoo.com
http://marathimodi.tripod.com
ajit
her accent is not up to the mark.
The songs are
1)nach sahavato ha bhar
2)kai majhha aata pahatosi
3)utha utha ho suryanarayana
4)sukhache he sukh...
5)tujhhyavin karamat naahi
Off late, on a local channel she sang - "je je ghhadel te te ghhado"
and "vithhala re, kanthha aalavuni...". She sounded quite old and
accented in these.
However her best Marathi song is "Runanubandhhanchya" with Kumar
Gandharava. I wish he werent chosen for that song. He has sung too
many "taans" at the most odd places,making it sound too contrived. And
his silly pronounciation of the word "ghusaphusalo".Vani sounds
gorgeous in this!!
Digression: I dont think Vani was even close to Lata/Asha for North
Indian songs due to her accent and lack of sweetness, but listen to
her in Tamil and Telugu!!
She is the singer with the MOST powerful voice (amongst ALL female
playback singers). For example: "ezhu swarangalukkul" and "kelviyin
naayagane" from the Tamil movie "Apoorva Raagangal", "happiest moment"
from the Kannada mvie "bili hendthi" and "aanathi neeyara" from the
TElugu movie "Swathikiranam" are all great songs and they amply
display her unparalleled vocal strength (range + breath
control).Sometimes I wish she had been a pure classical singer!!
aarati....@gmail.com
> I wish to collect the following songs on audio format Real audio or MP3 Pl. help:
> 1. Shabd mala pureshya na hoti artha sarech sangoon jato - Yesudas
> 2. Ghe zakun Mukhade chandramukhi - Talat mahmood
> 3. na Khant nahi khed - Talat
> 4. Aaj mi nathaghari - kailasnath Jayswal
> 5. Aag pori sambal - Mahendra Kapoor - Pushpa Pagdhare
>
> Can someone help find them?
I am also searching songs sung by non marathi singers, those are listed below. Please help me or let me know where can these available.
1. Shabdmala Puresha Na hoti, sparsh sarech sangun jati, lochana aad jates tevha
papnila tujha rang yeto - Singer K J Yesudas
2. Hee wat chaltana mage na pahile - Singer Bhupinder Singh
3. Haluwar Ya Manachya Chedu Nakos Tara - Singer Ajit Kadkade
4. Nako Sajani Door Deshas Neu, Nako Jiv Lau Nako Jiv Deu - Singer Ravindra Sathe
5. Haluch Ya ho haluch Ya - Vani Jayram
6. Arpito Manasvini Phule Bharun Onjali - I don't know the singer. I head this song on Pune Vividhbharti.
7. Kon dishanchi kon pakhare yeti tipnya dane - Ravindra Bijoor, Film - Karmayog, Music - Sudhanshu
Please let me know if you head anything on the above songs.
Thanks,
Balkrishna Pathak, Pune
9420481445
sunnyd...@yahoo.com
> "Prakash Pradhan" <pra...@emirates.net.ae> wrote in message news:1c27a2a1.01081...@posting.google.com... > asi...@My-deja.com (Cricfan) wrote in message news:<9a0087b.01081...@posting.google.com>... > > pra...@emirates.net.ae (Prakash Pradhan) wrote in message news:<1c27a2a1.01081...@posting.google.com>...> > My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar > Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs: > Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli". > Vol. Page. Song Singer/s>> > ( ** ) Songs and others not mentioned here are also available on other > Marathi web sites:>> > > > An entire thread on this topic on rmim can be found at; > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=74e77f71f8d29a52,24&seekm= 58acp4%24664%40lex.zippo.com#p> >[I went through the entire thread but could not find the song I am about to discuss below. I searched on google with the keyword 'Geeta Dutt and Marathi' but got too many hits. It is not possible to go through all of them. So I am going to take a risk and talk about it anyway hoping that even if it is discussed before, may be somebody missed it. I apologize to all of the rest who already know about it.]Many years ago, every Sunday afternoon from 2.30 to 3.30 on Vividh Bharati, somebody from the film industry used to present his/her favourite songs. Later they started a similar thing, I think Saturday night for half an hour, in Marathi. One such program was presented by either Shrinivas Khale or Yashawant Dev. He talked very highly about a song sung by Geeta Dutt before playing it. I don't remember whether he himself had composed it or not. Has anybody heard 'Jaa saa.ng, jaa saa.ng laxmaNaa saan.g raamraayaalaa' ? I haven't found it on any of the compilations that are available. Thank God they repeated the program a few months later. :-)It is an absolutely magnificient song, IMO favourably comparable to any of her finest Hindi song I know. It expresses the pain Sita feels when Laxman leaves her in the forest due to the order by Ram, when she was pregnant. It is a sad occasion but Sita doesn't want to display her sorrow when she bids farewell to Laxman. And the composition is perfect. It is not the type of tune like 'Meraa sundar sapanaa biit gayaa' which you recognize from a mile that somebody is crying. If a non Marathi person listens the song without understanding the words, he may even think it is a happy song. But there is an under current of pain through out and Geeta brought it out so well while singing it. In the thread above, people discussed how flawlessly some non Marathi singers sang Marathi songs. Was this song flawlessly sung? IMO almost yes, but if you don't know it is sung by Geeta, a Marathi person can still detect a little bit of foreign accent. And how it adds to the charm of the song. I would take this any day over a flawless rendition. Especially the way she sang the word 'saa.ng'. It was more like 'saaaaaa.ng' and slightly nasal. It is a type of song that just requires a singer to put lots of heart in it and nobody can beat Geeta on that score.Anant
I could be wrong,but I think it is sung by Lata. A beautiful song. IMHO it is not a song of sadness but of disgust. In the first line itself Sita tells Laxman to tell 'your' Ram, as if he is no longer hers.
Abhay Phadnis
>
> I could be wrong,but I think it is sung by Lata.
http://www.geetadutt.com/marathi_songs.html
Warm regards,
Abhay
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>
> My friend, U R right about Pt. Bhimsen joshi, Vani jairam Pt. Kumar
> Gangharva etc etc. Also see other songs:
> Following volumes are of books "Gaani Galyatli, Manatli".
> Vol. Page. Song Singer/s
>
> 2 61 Devtulya baba maze M. Kapoor
> 2 89 Aali Tuzyz dari (who is sher) Roshantara Begum
> 3 70 Nako bhavya wada M. Rafi
> 71 Ha chhand jiwala laavi pise M. Rafi **
> 75 Ghadiche pravasi M. Kapoor
> 79 Ghe zakun mukhade chandra Talat
> 104 Na khant naahi khed Talat
> 4 53 Pkulwit ja tu M. Kapoor
> 55 Harusava sod sakhi pure ha M. Rafi **
> 5 20 Prakashantale tare tumhi M. Rafi ** (Hasa mulano hasa)
> 33 Rasika tuzyach sathi Parween Sultan
> 54 Aaj mi natha ghari (who is he) Kailasnath Jayaswal
> 72 Mi dolkar2 Lata/ Hemant **
> 6 35 Jevha tula mi Talat
> 59 Aag pori sambhal M. Rafi/ P. Pagdhare **
> 7 19 Prabhu tu dayala M. Rafi **
> 8 19 Rani tuzya najrene M. Kapoor
> 9 44 Re mana saad ghali M. Rafi **
> 56 Ti yete anik jaate M. Kapoor **
> 107 Swapnat mi tuzya M. Kapoor/ S. Malhotra
> 10 10 Neej re neej Lata/ M. Kapoor
> ( ** ) Songs and others not mentioned here are also available on other
> Marathi web sites:
>
> above singers :
> 1. Parween Sultan – I haven’t heard this song (as above)
> 2. Yesudas – Shabdmala pureshya na hoti aarth sarech sangoon
> jaato
> 3. Talat – ghe zakun mukhade chandramukhi
>
> I have ( I wish to record my thanks to the respective web sites ) 2
> songs of Hemant Kumar with Lata; 1 (and only) by Kishor-Anuradha
> Paudwal; 4 by M. Kapoor and 4 by Rafi. I need at least the above 3
> songs on audio format.
> This will certainlr increase your interest
> Prakash
>
> > Sorry, I cannot help you, but the topic is interesting. A couple of my
> > favorite Marathi songs sung by non-Maharashtrian singers are;
> > 1. riNanubandha_chya - Vani Jairam and Pt. Kumar Gandharva
> > 2. uTHi uTHi gopaaLaa - Vani Jairam & Pt. Kumar Gandharva
> >
> > Well, strictly speaking Pt. Bhimsen Joshi, Pt. Mallikarjun Mansur and
> > Ms. Gangubai Hangal have also done great justice to Marathi songs.
> > However, since they are (Kannada speakers) from north Karnataka,
> > theyre familiar with Marathi since it is also widely spoken in that
> > region and they may not fall in your category (non marathi speaking).
> > An entire thread on this topic on rmim can be found at;
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&th=74e77f71f8d29a52,24&seekm=58acp4%24664%40lex.zippo.com#p
> >
> > Arun
This link of SaReGaMa points to quite a few songs sung by Manna Dey (mostly in the decade of the 1970-s, I guess):
http://www.saregama.com/portal/pages/film?mode=get_album_info&albumId=162455
Regards.