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Uttam

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Jan 6, 2005, 10:08:57 PM1/6/05
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I chanced to listen to a duet by Sharda and Mukesh from the film
"Around the world" whose words went somewhat like:

Chale jaao
zaraa thehero
kisi ka dum
nikalta hai
yeh manzar dekh kar jaana.

The singing by Sharda is not only atrocious but she cannot pronounce
almost even a single line correctly.

Her pronunciation of

Haseen jharnon ke saaye mein
Akela Chhod jaatey ho

becomes

Haseen jharnon ke saaye mein
Akela chod jaatey vo!

and her breathing is also labored..

she breathes in at the wrong places..

compared to her Mukesh - and I am not such a great fan of Mukesh - is
so sonorous!

Uttam

Abhay Jain

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Jan 6, 2005, 10:42:06 PM1/6/05
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"Uttam" <u0...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Not only she was a horrible singer, she had the nerve
to complain on a local radio interview last summer
how Lata and Asha ruined her career. She probably
forgot that Shankar of SJ had ditched Lata in her favor
and tried to push her very hard. No other singer ever
got that kind of push and support and yet she fizzled.

AJ


lt

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Jan 6, 2005, 11:04:24 PM1/6/05
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"Abhay Jain" <aba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I think you are referring to the TV Asia interview. I thought the same. What
a hack and now she is blaming Lata and Asha? She never stood a chance in the
first place. SJ would rather have pushed Dilraj Kaur or Sundari Bansal

lt

>
> AJ
>


Pulkit Sharma

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Jan 6, 2005, 11:39:32 PM1/6/05
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lt wrote:
> "Abhay Jain" <aba...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:lBnDd.46530$V%2.1...@fe08.lga...
> >
> > > > Not only she was a horrible singer, she had the nerve
> > to complain on a local radio interview last summer
> > how Lata and Asha ruined her career. She probably
> > forgot that Shankar of SJ had ditched Lata in her favor
> > and tried to push her very hard. No other singer ever
> > got that kind of push and support and yet she fizzled.
>
>...........................

Well her heart seems to be very bitter. In another interview she
described how Raj Kapoor ditched her- "I participated and stood first
in a very big music competition organized in 1959 with Raj Kapoor as
one of the judges. He told me that he was captivated by my voice and
offered me to come to film industry. A few years later I went there and
got introduced to SJ. I spent lovely times with Raj ji and his family
and often sang for them. He told me that I have a pure Indian voice
unlike many other female singers. I was very happy when I recorded song
for Raj ji's Mera Naam Joker, but a few days later I learnt that they
were being dubbed by someone else. Raj ji had ditched me without even
informing me. I still wonder why he did so. Following that incident
there was a big wave of negative publicity that wiped me off."
Regards
Pulkit Sharma

irfan

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Jan 6, 2005, 11:42:35 PM1/6/05
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I am still at a loss to understand why Shankar pushed Sharda as
she was always an ordinary singer. Even a school/college
girl(singer)
can sing much better than her. BTW, AFAIR the song starts as -
chaley jaana zaraa thehero -

Regards,

Irfan

Sunil Dandekar

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Jan 7, 2005, 3:58:06 AM1/7/05
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I totally agree. She is a big-time-messer of good songs. I have heard
of an anecdote where Shankar was justifying choice of Sharda thus: The
heroin is a well educated girl. How can Lata who is not a graduate do
justice to this song? Sharda being a graduate...


Unglibhar chamdike liye mar gaye achhe achhe...
warm regards,

Sunil Dandekar

Abhay Jain

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Jan 7, 2005, 8:34:57 AM1/7/05
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"Sunil Dandekar" <sunnyd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> compared to her Mukesh - and I am not such a great fan of Mukesh - is
>> so sonorous!
>>
>> Uttam
>
>
> I totally agree. She is a big-time-messer of good songs. I have heard
> of an anecdote where Shankar was justifying choice of Sharda thus: The
> heroin is a well educated girl. How can Lata who is not a graduate do
> justice to this song? Sharda being a graduate...
>

Graduate of "School of Cry Babies"
where the moto is to blame Lata
and sometimes Asha for everything.

AJ

Uttam

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Jan 7, 2005, 9:34:48 AM1/7/05
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Frankly, any aspiring singer has a lot to learn from Sharda -
especially how NOT to sing a song.

In the same song, every time she has to sing "yeh manzar", there is a
desperate intake of breath. The funny part is that when Mukesh sings
the very same lines in an identical way, he seems to sail over that
part with no need for breathing. Being my own devil's advocate - to be
charitable to her, maybe it is her interpretation of "dum nikalna"
because after all the song refers to "kiska dum nikalta hai".

Another place where she is sickening is when she pronounces the word
"dum" in the "kisika dum nikalta hai". If one wants to reproduce that,
try pronouncing the word "dum" while holding both your lips together
with your fingers.

Uttam

shri37

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Jan 7, 2005, 12:13:58 PM1/7/05
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actually, it was she who ruined Shankar's career.

Satish Kalra

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Jan 13, 2005, 6:31:43 PM1/13/05
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"Pulkit Sharma" <pulkit_s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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She was not bitter at all when she visited Allentown, PA, in 1991,
accompanying Manna Dey on a concert tour. She was very humble, praising
Shanker (in particular), and also mentioned that it takes a lot of public
relations, not just talent, to succeed in the Hindi film industry. On a
one-to-one talk with her, she repeatedly refused to comment on Lata/Asha
angle.

However, on the ocmments above, she seems to have lost track of the
time-chronology, and especially the fact that Raj Kapoor did not object to
any songs being recorded by her for films in which he was starring in, but
were not his own films. Examples - Diwana, Around The World, etc.

--
Happy Listenings.

Satish Kalra


Abhay Jain

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Jan 13, 2005, 7:22:54 PM1/13/05
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"Satish Kalra" <Satish...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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13 years have passed since 1991 and probably mid-life crisis
has set in or may be she is letting loose her real feelings now.

AJ

Satish Kalra

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Jan 13, 2005, 8:29:45 PM1/13/05
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"Abhay Jain" <aba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> 13 years have passed since 1991 and probably mid-life crisis
> has set in or may be she is letting loose her real feelings now.
>
> AJ

It is probably much-later-than-a-mid-life crisis. :)

Shalini Razdan

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Jan 13, 2005, 9:01:58 PM1/13/05
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"Satish Kalra" <Satish...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I had the same impression of her when she came to the Atlanta leg of Manna
Dey's concert tour. Pleasant lady. She rendered her songs very
faithfully - whether one considers that good or bad. :-) I don't know how
it was in the Allentown concert, but in Atlanta, Manna Dey and Sharda didn't
sing a single song together.

Shalini

Satish Kalra

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Jan 13, 2005, 10:37:36 PM1/13/05
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"Shalini Razdan" <shalin...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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On the dot, Shalini.

Even in Allentown, they did not sing any song together. She sounded much
better on the tour than she did in her original film songs.

She was there only for the "warm-up sessions" in the beginning of the
program, then after the intermission, and a song or two interspersed in
between Manna Dey's to give him a break. She spoke very softly all the
time, was not upset even when the male singer accompanying her for the "wo
parii kahaan se laauun..." rendition could not figure out the exact spot
where he was supposed to begin and messed up the song big time! Someone
from the audience was pushed onstage and he did a fine job accompanying her
for the song, which she started anew.

shri37

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Jan 15, 2005, 1:19:33 AM1/15/05
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With referance to justification by Shankar that Graduate girl should
sing for Graduate heroin----I wonder why they did not get some
tangavala to sing
" Chhotisi ye Zandgani "

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