Larri Appa
Girish Bhat
The charming plot revolved around his scatter-brain
secretary [quite a hatti-khatti kuddi she was. ;-)] goofing up their
hotel bookings and therefore they were forced to act as servants in
the very house Balraj's would-bes lived.
The song that somewhat remains in my memory goes
larri Appa, Larri Appa <something somethin> Addi Chappa Addi Chappa
<something something>
Questions
1) Name of movie
2) Explanation of these Punjabi words
3) Name and background of Heroine
4) Music Director
5) Any other info about this movie
THanks In Advance
SKalra902
>There was a truly excellent B&W movie starring Balraj Sahni.
No, it was Motilal.
>The charming plot revolved around his scatter-brain
>secretary [quite a hatti-khatti kuddi she was. ;-)] goofing up their
>hotel bookings and therefore they were forced to act as servants in
>the very house Balraj's would-bes lived.
>
>The song that somewhat remains in my memory goes
>larri Appa, Larri Appa <something somethin> Addi Chappa Addi Chappa
><something something>
The song is "lara lappa lara lappa layii rakhdaa, addi tappa addi tappa laayii
rakhdaa".
>
>Questions
>1) Name of movie
>2) Explanation of these Punjabi words
>3) Name and background of Heroine
>4) Music Director
>5) Any other info about this movie
>
>THanks In Advance
1. Ek Thi Ladki
2. That is tough to do for me. I'll let someone else take the opportunity of
doing that.
3. Meena Shorie. Wife of the film's producer.
4. Vinod
5. A very popular1949 film due to this song especially.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Girish Bhat
>
> >There was a truly excellent B&W movie starring Balraj Sahni.
>
> No, it was Motilal.
>
>
Are you sure? Sligtly balding, extremely dapper gentleman?
And an excellent actor to boot? This guy was truly a revelation!
If it had been Balraj [and he certainly somewhat resemble Balraj]
one would atleast console oneself with the thought
that atleast one was aware of him. ;-)
Thanks!
surjit singh
> Girish Bhat wrote:
>
> >There was a truly excellent B&W movie starring Balraj Sahni.
>
> No, it was Motilal.
>
>
> >The charming plot revolved around his scatter-brain
> >secretary [quite a hatti-khatti kuddi she was. ;-)] goofing up their
> >hotel bookings and therefore they were forced to act as servants in
> >the very house Balraj's would-bes lived.
> >
> >The song that somewhat remains in my memory goes
> >larri Appa, Larri Appa <something somethin> Addi Chappa Addi Chappa
> ><something something>
>
> The song is "lara lappa lara lappa layii rakhdaa, addi tappa addi tappa laayii
> rakhdaa".
>
> >
> >Questions
> >1) Name of movie
> >2) Explanation of these Punjabi words
> >3) Name and background of Heroine
> >4) Music Director
> >5) Any other info about this movie
> >
> >THanks In Advance
>
> 1. Ek Thi Ladki
> 2. That is tough to do for me. I'll let someone else take the opportunity of
> doing that.
Let me give it a try. The words are
laaraa lappaa laaraa lappaa laa_ii rakhadaa
aDDii Tappaa aDDii Tappaa laa_ii rakhadaa
Literal meanings:
laaraa = a false promise to do something in the future
lappaa = a nirarthak word like vaay in chaay vaay. Imagine this
conversation between close friends:
A: chhaay vaay piyoge ?
B: jii bilkul, chaay bhii laa_o aur vaay bhii laa_o.
B means that s/he expects some namkiin aur miThaa_ii with tea.
So, lappaa means something extra (still false) to a false promise. For
example, a laaraa would be, I will send the check tomorrow. And lappaa
would be, not only that, I will send it by Federal Express Overnight.
laa_ii rakhadaa = lagaa_e rakhataa hai
aDDii = e.Dii = heel = lower hind area of foot
Tappa = Taapana = the act of going across
aDDii Tappaa = Walking on your heels, as in expectation of the
fufilment of a promise.
So, the whole couplet is interpreted as:
(My love) keeps making these false promises with embellishments again
and again and makes me walk excitedly again again (towards him) in
expectation of the fulfilments of the promises that he never keeps.
BTW, the song has the phrase jhuuThe laare later, that is as redundant
as dar asal me.n, or, gol gol chakkar laganaa, or, in kaaraNo.n kii
vajah se.
Further BTW, in Panjabi, chaay vaay becomes chaa' chuu in Malwa
(Ludhiana, Patiala) and chaa' shaa in Majha (Amritsar, Lahore).
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period in Professorial mode.
> 3. Meena Shorie. Wife of the film's producer.
> 4. Vinod
Afzal A. Khan
SKalra902 wrote:
>
> Girish Bhat wrote:
>
> >There was a truly excellent B&W movie starring Balraj Sahni.
>
> No, it was Motilal.
>
> >The charming plot revolved around his scatter-brain
> >secretary [quite a hatti-khatti kuddi she was. ;-)] goofing up their
> >hotel bookings and therefore they were forced to act as servants in
> >the very house Balraj's would-bes lived.
> >
> >The song that somewhat remains in my memory goes
> >larri Appa, Larri Appa <something somethin> Addi Chappa Addi Chappa
> ><something something>
>
> The song is "lara lappa lara lappa layii rakhdaa, addi tappa addi tappa laayii
> rakhdaa".
>
> >
> >Questions
> >1) Name of movie
> >2) Explanation of these Punjabi words
> >3) Name and background of Heroine
> >4) Music Director
> >5) Any other info about this movie
> >
> 1. Ek Thi Ladki
> 2. That is tough to do for me. I'll let someone else take the > opportunity of doing that.
> 3. Meena Shorie. Wife of the film's producer.
> 4. Vinod
> 5. A very popular1949 film due to this song especially.
> Satish Kalra
A very entertaining film. There was another melodious
song which I recall vividly ---> "Ab haal-e-dil ya
haal-e-jigar kuchh na poochhiye". A duet.
The MD "Vinod" was actually a Christian gentleman,
whose name was perhaps Eric Roberts. The "Lara Lappa"
song is picturised in an office. At one point, the
working girls keep on repeating the words "Dekar
jhooTe laare". And one of the girls, in a western
outfit and supposedly an Anglo-Indian/Christian,
sings these words with a stylised "western" enunciation.
The effect was quite hilarious.
About 1 1/2 years back, I had posted a biographical
sketch of the leading lady, Meena Shorie. It is a
pity that a vivacious girl like her ended her days
in such penury. Sic gloria transit....
Afzal
Aashish Thakker
song where one can see Meena Shorie on stage swaying as she sings this song. This song aired on
Doordarshan quite often during the mid-80s.
regards,
Aashish
Aashish Thakker
TIA,
Aashish
Balaji A.S. Murthy
First a correction, 'dillii se aayaa bhaa_ii Ti.nguu' was not on Meena Shorie.
I don't know the name of the actress, she was only featured in this song.
Second, someone, Maybe Snehal or Hrishi (one those ATMJH guys :)) I believe
conjectured that this was sung by Geeta Roy. It was very difficult for me to
agree to that time. But I don't remember the voice of that singer that well
now, so can't say much. AFAIK, HFGK doesn't mention the singer.
- Balaji
Girish Bhat
>
> A very entertaining film. There was another melodious
> song which I recall vividly ---> "Ab haal-e-dil ya
> haal-e-jigar kuchh na poochhiye". A duet.
Yes, another very good song but I have a very bad habit of forgetting
most of the lyrics - as evidenced by my posts here. ;-)
> The MD "Vinod" was actually a Christian gentleman,
> whose name was perhaps Eric Roberts. The "Lara Lappa"
> song is picturised in an office. At one point, the
> working girls keep on repeating the words "Dekar
> jhooTe laare". And one of the girls, in a western
> outfit and supposedly an Anglo-Indian/Christian,
> sings these words with a stylised "western" enunciation.
> The effect was quite hilarious.
>
The quaint picturization certainly adds to the charm of the movie.
Apart from the inter-play between them, what I really liked was
the tender but realistic depiction of how love develops between
Motilal (any websites on him?) and Meena Shorie.
Ladies and Gentlemen, THAT's the way to fall in love. ;-)
> About 1 1/2 years back, I had posted a biographical
> sketch of the leading lady, Meena Shorie. It is a
I did a group.google search and this thread seems to be the only one
where she is mentioned. Would you mind hunting down the article and
providing a link.
> pity that a vivacious girl like her ended her days
> in such penury. Sic gloria transit....
>
That is truly sad. But Kalra just mentioned she was the producer's wife,
so how did that happen?
>Sic gloria transit....
All things must pass, but pity that such wonderful talent is quickly
forgotten while far less deserving are feted long after their sell-by date.
Thanks for sharing!
Girish Bhat
> example, a laaraa would be, I will send the check tomorrow. And lappaa
> would be, not only that, I will send it by Federal Express Overnight.
>
I must say this is a truly great analogy! Must try and add it to my
hindi. ;-)
>
> So, the whole couplet is interpreted as:
>
> (My love) keeps making these false promises with embellishments again
> and again and makes me walk excitedly again again (towards him) in
> expectation of the fulfilments of the promises that he never keeps.
>
But the situation in the movie was not condusive to romance yet at that
stage. If I recall correctly, she was miffed at Motilal as a Boss and not
as a lover at that stage. ;-)
Hrishi Dixit
"Balaji A.S. Murthy" wrote:
>
> In article <3C62FF00...@usc.edu>, atha...@usc.edu says...
> >
> >> Another song from the same film that I recall quite vividly is Dilli Se Aaya B
> >hai Tingu.....a comical
> >> song where one can see Meena Shorie on stage swaying as she sings this song. T
> >his song aired on
> >> Doordarshan quite often during the mid-80s.
>
> First a correction, 'dillii se aayaa bhaa_ii Ti.nguu' was not on Meena Shorie.
> I don't know the name of the actress, she was only featured in this song.
> Second, someone, Maybe Snehal or Hrishi (one those ATMJH guys :)) I believe
> conjectured that this was sung by Geeta Roy. It was very difficult for me to
> agree to that time. But I don't remember the voice of that singer that well
> now, so can't say much. AFAIK, HFGK doesn't mention the singer.
Probably was me. I remember posting a soundtrack review of this movie back in
1998, that generated quite a bit of speculation on this particular song. Anant
Rege claimed it was Geeta Roy.
Here's a link from the Google archives to that thread, if anyone is interested:
..Hrishi
Sudhir Kakar
==========================================
I just read the details at the link, listed by Mr. Dixit.
At the time of posting the follow-up message, Mr. Anant Rege was not even
aware as to who sang: Lara Lappa ..... He had a question, weather the
singers included Chitalkar. His listing that 'Bhai Tingu and Mingu'
was sung by: Geeta Dutt, can't be taken seriously.
The Hindi Film Geet Kosh, doesn't have listing for the singers
for this song.
Sudhir
Hrishi Dixit <hdi...@cysive.com> wrote in message > > >> Another song from the
Dilli Se Aaya Bhai Tingu.....a comical
> > >> song where one can see Meena Shorie on stage swaying as she sings this song. T
> >
> > First a correction, 'dillii se aayaa bhaa_ii Ti.nguu' was not on Meena
Shorie.
> > I don't know the name of the actress, she was only featured in this song.
> > Second, someone, Maybe Snehal or Hrishi (one those ATMJH guys :)) I believe
> > conjectured that this was sung by Geeta Roy. It was very difficult for me to
> > agree to that time. But I don't remember the voice of that singer that well
> > now, so can't say much. AFAIK, HFGK doesn't mention the singer.
>
> Probably was me. I remember posting a soundtrack review of this movie back in
> 1998, that generated quite a bit of speculation on this particular song. Anant
> Rege claimed it was Geeta Roy.
>
> Here's a link from the Google archives to that thread, if anyone is interested:
..Hrishi
Sudhir Kakar
==================
Larra Lappa ....
I haven't seen the movie, but after reading the write-ups, it seems that this
6 minutes song (i.e. Part 1 and 2) was picturized in one stiuation.
Will someone please correct me, if I am wrong.
Thanks
------------------------
> > The song is "lara lappa lara lappa layii rakhdaa, addi tappa addi tappa laayii
> > rakhdaa".
> >
> > >
> >
Vijay Kumar K
> where she is mentioned. Would you mind hunting down the article and
> providing a link.
>
> > pity that a vivacious girl like her ended her days
> > in such penury. Sic gloria transit....
> >
>
> That is truly sad. But Kalra just mentioned she was the producer's wife,
> so how did that happen?
>
> >Sic gloria transit....
Name : Meena Shorey
Full / Real Name : Khursheed Jahan
Born :
Died : 13-Sep-1987
Notable Films : Ek Thi Ladki
Contributed by : Afzal A Khan
For today's generation, the name Meena Shorey may mean nothing,
but music lovers would definitely remember the ever-popular song "Lara
Lappa"
from the film "Ek Thi Ladki". The film, which starred Meena
Shorey opposite the debonair Motilal, was a huge success. Some years
back, a vernacular
magazine had published an inter- view with the (late) actress
where she had talked about her life and film career. An English
rendition of this autobio-
graphical sketch is given below :
My real name is Khursheed Jahan. I had two sisters and a
brother. Wazir Begum was my elder sister. Rukhsana and Siddique were
younger to me. Our father Mian Barkat Ali was an
agriculturist from Multan. But due to his irresponsible ways, all
lands had to be sold off
one by one, and ultimately we shifted to Lahore. Here, he
started a dyeing business, but this too failed. Money problems led to
domestic
squabbles and things became very very difficult. My elder
sister then got married to one Aslam, who was from Bombay and had some
connections with the film industry. After some time, she
called our mother and the other siblings to come over and live with
her in Bombay.
Rather than feel sad, my father was in fact happy at getting
rid of his "liabi- lities". Soon afterwards, he remarried.
Times were hard. Bombay was a much costlier city. I wanted
to join the film industry. Once I accompanied my brother-in-law Aslam
to
attend the muhurat of a film. It was Sohrab Modi's
"Sikandar". One of my friends had loaned me a beautiful dress to wear.
Though I was
only about 12 years at the time, I looked a little older and
was the cynosure of all eyes at the studio set which was very crowded.
Some
people even thought that I was the heroine of the film.
Actually, Vanmala had been cast in this film opposite Prithviraj
Kapoor. Sohrab
Modi was busy in arranging the lights etc. but, seeing the
commotion, he came to where we stood, looked me over, and straightway
told
Aslam that he wanted to cast me in his next film. He said
that he was in fact on the look-out for a beautiful girl like me, who
could pose a
worth- while challenge to Naseem Banu, who was renowned for
her beauty. I was of course overjoyed and succeeded in persuading my
mother to let me join films and thus my career began. Sohrab
Modi got me to sign an agreement where, he told me, there was a
stupulation that I couln't accept any outside film for one
year. This film (made by Sohrab Modi) was a great hit and my career
was really
launched.
It was the beginning of a very happy and prosperous period.
We moved into a new house. There were lots of offers which I couldn't
accept. The well-known Director-Producer Mehboob Khan
wasnted to cast me in his film "Humayun" and even spoke to Sohrab Modi
but the latter refused to release me from his contract. In
his next film "Prithvi Vallabh", I was cast opposit a very handsome
actor Al-Nasir.
We fell in love and got married. The film too proved very
successful. Life couldn't have been better. Around this time, a
film-maker Roop
K. Shorey came to Bombay from Lahore. He wanted to cast me
in his new film "Shalimar" but my contract with Sohrab Modi again came
in the way. Instead, Begum Para did the film, opposite
Chandramohan. In those days, Bombay film-stars often visited Lahore,
which was
another big film centre. On one such visit, I met Dalsukh
Pancholi. He announced two films "Shehr se Door" and "Arsi" where I
was to
star as the leading lady. But, after the shooting had begun,
Sohrab Modi sent a legal notice to me and Pancholi, claiming damages
of Rs. 3
lakhs. I was surprised, as the one-year period was long
over. It turned out that Modi had taken advantage of my being
illiterate and
fraudulently altered the restrictive provision from one to
three years. I came back to Bombay and pleaded with Modi not to
destroy my
film career but he refused to budge. For about an year, I
had to remain idle. Then, Modi demanded Rs. 60,000/- from me as his
price for
releasing me from the contract. I met his wife, Mehtab, and
requested her to intercede on my behalf. Ultimately, the matter was
resolved
on payment of Rs. 30,000/-.
I then returned to Lahore. My husband Al-Nasir remained
behind in Bombay and continued to work in films. He was a philanderer
and
had relations with many women, betraying my faith and love.
First, he befriended Kuldip Kaur, who saw through his game. After some
time, he married Manorama but left her soon. Then he married
Veena. Faced with this situation, I obtained a divorce from him. In
Lahore,
I began shooting for Pancholi's "PatJhar" with a new leading
man. Geeta Bali too was cast in the movie. It was only half-completed
when
the country was partitioned and Pakistan came into being.
Since I had several films lined up in Bombay, I decided to go back
there, along
with my family.
I acted in films like "Actress". "Kale Badal" and
"Dukhiari". In those days, I lived in a flat near Shivaji Park. Majnu,
a comedian and
character-actor, also lived nearby. He told me that,
following Partition, Director Roop Shorey had come to Bombay and was
living in a
hotel. Financially, he was so hard up that he had no money
to even pay his hotel bills. I felt very sad. I had seen him in his
heyday. He was
a very generous man and had helped me in my early career. I
had also acted in his film "Rut Rangeeli". On hearing of his plight, I
went to
see him, paid off all his bills and brought him to live in
my flat. I suggested to him that he could resume film-making and
promised to
finance his ventures. Shorey's next film, made with my
finance, was "Chaman" and it was quite successful. Om Prakash had
acted in this
movie. Then, Shorey made "Ek Thi Ladki", where the biggest
hero of the day, Motilal, acted opposite me. The film was hugely
successful
and its song "Lara Lappa" became a phenomenal hit. Right
from the days of our earlier association, I had felt a sort of
gratitude towards
Shorey. In Bombay, we became very good friends. Once, we
went to Calcutta, where he proposed to me. Though he was already
married, I was told that the (bigamy) laws were not
applicable in Bengal. Accordingly, we decided to get married in
Calcutta. He was in
fact prepared to become a Muslim. But, in order to repay him
for all his past favours, I decided to marry him according to Hindu
rites.
Thus I became Meena Shorey.
In 1954, the Pakistani film industry started a fierce
agitation against Indian films, although Indian films and film-stars
remained very popular
with the Pakistani people. Two years later, I decided to
come over to Pakistan and straightway began receiving film offers. My
first film
here was "Miss 1956", which was made in Karachi. On its
release, I came to be known as the topmost heroine in Pakistan. Then a
well-known film-maker Anwar Kamal Pasha signed me on for his
film "Sarfarosh", where I had to play a Princess. A great many costly
costumes were got prepared for the role. Just then, I came
to Bombay for a few days to meet my husband (Shorey). In my absence,
another Pakistani actress Sabeeha Khanam plotted against me
and got my part changed to that of a bandit queen. Feeling outraged, I
declined the film. But then I relented, when the producer's
father Hakim Shuja Pasha came to my house and pleaded with me to save
him
and his son from financial ruin.
Time continued to elapse. I met actor Asad Bukhari when he
was cast opposite me in "Jamalo". We fell in love and got married
during the
making of this film. But he proved to be a most selfish
person. For his sake, I made another film which bombed at the box
office. Although
he didn't spend a single paisa on this film, he started
distancing himself from me. Once when we met in a studio, he even went
to th extent
of denying our marriage. All this broke my heart and I
decided to leave the film industry for good.
Note : This interview was done in 1985.
Meena Shorey died on the 13th September 1987.
Ket...@att.net
says...
>
>DILLI SE AYA BHAI TINGU / Singer's Name
>==========================================
>
>
>I just read the details at the link, listed by Mr. Dixit.
>
>At the time of posting the follow-up message, Mr. Anant Rege was not even
>aware as to who sang: Lara Lappa ..... He had a question, weather the
>singers included Chitalkar. His listing that 'Bhai Tingu and Mingu'
>was sung by: Geeta Dutt, can't be taken seriously.
I did not know that knowing the singers of "Lara Lappa" was a pre-requisite
course that one had to complete, before one could be taken seriously at being
able to identify the singers of other songs? It's almost Spring break time. When
was this course first offered?
Wonder how those Rafians would fare in this course, considering that they
frequently can't identify whether the singer is Mahendra Kapoor or his clone
Rafi.
Ketan
vibhendu
>
> My real name is Khursheed Jahan. I had two sisters and a
> brother. Wazir Begum was my elder sister. Rukhsana and Siddique were
> younger to me. Our father Mian Barkat Ali was an
> agriculturist from Multan. But due to his irresponsible ways, all
> lands had to be sold off
'Well, Pakistani character actrees Khursheed and Meena Shourie are one
and same person and she continued to appear in PTV serails till mid
80s and disd not quit acting.
I could very vividly remember a PTV program called silver
Jubilee(1984) from my childhood (incidentally PTV fare was the only
thing available to us at Jammu against drab, grainy DD reception)where
Khursheed was guest and they also madeher sing Lara Lappa on stage and
showed its clippings.Idon't know whether the clip was from 'Ek thi
Ladki' or some Pakistani copy of it.She was doing Saas type roles in
PTV serials at that time, most notable being 'Saahil'
Years later I learnt of Lara lappa being a Lata number and an Indian
movie, though my father was of opinion that this was an Indian song
When this thread beganon RMIM, i wanted to post this info but after
this link, i
kinda believe that Meena shourie and Khursheed were the same person.
I would be able to identify Khursheed if i happen to see 'Lara Lappa'
clipping or the film,
Coul;d somebody confirm this theory of mine?
Another actress whom i suspect of having migrated to Pakistan is the
secretary under the table in the song 'Jaane kahan Mera jigar gaya re'
from mr & mrs 55
I later saw the same face (much matured however)on Quetta TV station
serials
....any info on this?????
Sudhir Kakar
artist's names does not arise.
This very very popular song has been played on Radio Stations, since
1947 and most of them do announce all the artists info.
Second point, Chitalkar was not a free lance artist. He sang only
his own compositions, though questions have been raised about his
being the male voice for the song:
Teriya Teriya / Lata + Male Voice (not listed
on records) / Chalis Baba Ek Chor / MD: S.D. Burman
Sudhir
P.S.: If you wish to take the course, then will have to wait
until 'Barkha Rani Zara Tham Jaye' - that will be
first Monday in September
------------------------------
Ket...@att.net wrote in message news:<a42em...@drn.newsguy.com>...
Sudhir Kakar
correct way of stating the relationship between Roop K. and
Meena should have been:
Roop K. Shorey was Meena's husband
====================================
Sudhir
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Ket...@att.net
says...
>
>In case of 'Larra Lappa', the question of guessing the
>artist's names does not arise.
Why? Are the artists "World famous" as in the "World Series" of the US Baseball
league?
>Second point, Chitalkar was not a free lance artist. He sang only
>his own compositions, though questions have been raised about his
Really? Maybe you can tell me what he is doing singing :
"Dhak dhak...kare dil, chat pat, aa ke mil" as a solo &
"Teri nazron ne humko chheda hai"--as a duet with Asha
in Roshan's "Baraati" as per the Geet Kosh. It is not even a joint dual-MD movie
like say "Mehbooba".
>P.S.: If you wish to take the course, then will have to wait
> until 'Barkha Rani Zara Tham Jaye' - that will be
> first Monday in September
Am withdrawing my interest in the course. The professor does not seem
knowledgeable enough to teach.
Ketan
urzung
Aashish Thakker wrote:
>
> Sorry about posting again.....but does anyone know who sang Dilli Se Aaya Bhai Tingu?
>
> TIA,
> Aashish
Sometimes back in the 50s,the song and its singer was talked about in
a
radio 'request program'.The singer's name given was Mrs Vishni Lal.
Urzung Khan
Sudhir Kakar
a 'Shagird', who is too hooked up on American media slangs (e.g.:
baseball etc.), while talking about HINDI SONGS.
Plus your knowledge is based, more or less from data in 'Hindi Film
Geet
Kosh', the first volume of which was published in 1980 (50s song).
Don't forget that listeners had quite a bit of info. (called P-Stats
on this site),
prior to publication of these books and also the lyrics of many
of the songs in HINDI SCRIPT.
The film Baarati is a nondescript film. Your reference will be
relevant
only if:
(a) You have these two songs
(b) You have ever heard them on any Radio Station (even
if only once)
(c) A Video Tape of this film was released.
Your add-on comments about: Mehbooba is also irrelevant. There
are few films, which have more than one MDs. Songs composed by
one has nothing to do with compositions created by other MD/s.
Data-mining is certainly not the proper way of finding listenable
songs.
SUDHIR
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Ket...@att.net wrote in message news:<a4461...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> In article <5bb9021d.0202...@posting.google.com>, sud...@yahoo.com
Ket...@att.net
says...
>Sorry 'Chela ji', you are disqualified. I am not willing to accept
Begging pardon, but I never accepted you as "Guruji" since I don't see you fit
to be one. So what exactly are you disqualifying me from?
>a 'Shagird', who is too hooked up on American media slangs (e.g.:
>baseball etc.), while talking about HINDI SONGS.
LOL...and I should accept you as a Guru, even though you write in English about
HINDI songs? There are fonts available to write in Hindi, you know.
>Plus your knowledge is based, more or less from data in 'Hindi Film
>Geet Kosh', the first volume of which was published in 1980 (50s song).
Interesting comments from a wanna-be "guru" who in an earlier post writes :
"The Hindi Film Geet Kosh, doesn't have listing for the singers
for this song".
Could you explain your hypocritical stance on why you choose to accept the Geet
Kosh as an authoritative source only when it suits you?
>The film Baarati is a nondescript film. Your reference will be
>relevant
>only if:
>
> (a) You have these two songs
>
> (b) You have ever heard them on any Radio Station (even
> if only once)
>
> (c) A Video Tape of this film was released.
>
Fine..the movie "Naadan" has 4 duets sung by CR, even though he is NOT the MD.
The movie is available on video.
The song "Ek nayi kali, sasural chali" has been sung by CR-Meena Kapoor in SDB's
Eight Days. I have definitely heard the song and I believe it is commercially
available too.
I suggest you go find these songs using your own data-mining skills. Till then--
Bon apetit! Enjoy eating your hat!
Ketan
ajit
> frequently can't identify whether the singer is Mahendra Kapoor or his clone
> Rafi.
>
>
> Ketan
They wud definitely fare much better than their counterparts from the
Kishore Kumar Klub, who cant differentiate between the songs of
Kishore, and the remakes by Vindo Rathod,Kumar Sanu, Sudesh Bhosle,
Abhijit et al. Even though the latter ones are better :)
SKalra902
I don't care if one is a Rafi fan or a member of the Kishore Kumar 'lovers'
club. But to call any one of KK's "clones" and their remakes of Kishore's
songs "better" than the originals is simply a failure to distinguish between
the 'real' and the 'copy'.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
ajit
> Ajit wrote:
>
> >> Wonder how those Rafians would fare in this course, considering that they
> >> frequently can't identify whether the singer is Mahendra Kapoor or his
> clone
> >> Rafi.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ketan
> >
> >They wud definitely fare much better than their counterparts from the
> >Kishore, and the remakes by Vindo Rathod,Kumar Sanu, Sudesh Bhosle,
> >Abhijit et al. Even though the latter ones are better :)
>
> I don't care if one is a Rafi fan or a member of the Kishore Kumar 'lovers'
> club. But to call any one of KK's "clones" and their remakes of Kishore's
> songs "better" than the originals is simply a failure to distinguish between
> the 'real' and the 'copy'.
>
> Happy listenings.
>
> Satish Kalra
Satish Kalra:
My statement was just as light-hearted as Ketan's. I myself do love
many,many of Kishore's songs, especially those from the 50s and 60s.
"hawaon pe likh do hawaon ke naam", "yeh shaam kuchh ajeeb thi" and
jhumroo songs, are my alltime favourites.
S.Jayaraman
Hello all RMIMers:
Here is the correct answer, absolutely 100 pc correct answer:
This famous chorus has been rendered by Lata/Satish Batra/Chorus.
Datish Batra was a bigtime producer of Punjabi?Hindi films of those
years.It was this man who produced GUL BALOOCH ('44) in which MD
Shamsunder gave 'break' to Md.Rafi. It is in this Punjabi film singer
Munawar Sultana also acted and rendered a couple of duets with Rafi.
Besides,Shamsunder and Batra were great chums always moving closely
and boozing together.Today,Batra is still living and staying in a posh
flat in Mumbai.I call him up here and there on phone and we have a
good rapport.He is 75% paralysed !
Any doubts or querries, pls shoot in. AT YOUR SERVICE always !!
Jai
13/2
BHAGWANTSAGOO
>skal...@aol.com (SKalra902) wrote in message
>I don't care if one is a Rafi fan or a member of the Kishore Kumar 'lovers'
>> club. But to call any one of KK's "clones" and their remakes of Kishore's
>> songs "better" than the originals is simply a failure to distinguish
>between
>> the 'real' and the 'copy'.
I have often considered the "ethics" of playing cover versions of popular songs
on my radio programme. Previously I detested doing so as the attempts were
feeble and quite often "besur"...certainly not a patch on the original.
I was particularly disappointed with Anuradha Paudwal's versions of Lata's all
time hits...the lady just appeared to go through the motions and not emote or
accentuate the lyrics one iota. Her so called "concert videos" are worse with a
small audience obviously paid by T-Series to politely applaud her
renditions...an absolute waste of time.
Rather than hearing someone trying to copy the voice of an original, I find it
more satisfying to hear someone singing a classic song in their OWN voice(as
opposed to copying the style of the original). Today I was listening to the
Parody song from Akaashdeep which featured Manna Dey and Asha Bhosle singing a
medley of snippets originally rendered by Mohd.Rafi and Lata Mangeshkar. Even
though the beneficiary was Mehmood, it was still fascinating to hear how Manna
Dey would have sung for example "Jo Waada Kiya Woh, Nibhana Padega".
The best cover version I've heard so far is by Abhijeet..."Rhim Jhim Ghire
Saawan"...perhaps its because he has matured as a singer and has developed his
own style to some extent which has gained him confidence and self assurance.
Just my tuppence worth.
Bhagwant
(Woh BBC Wala)
SKalra902
...snipped...
>
>The best cover version I've heard so far is by Abhijeet..."Rhim Jhim Ghire
>Saawan"...perhaps its because he has matured as a singer and has developed
>his
>own style to some extent which has gained him confidence and self assurance.
>Just my tuppence worth.
>Bhagwant
>(Woh BBC Wala)
I haven't heard his version, yet. May be I should dig out the Yaadein sereies
cassettes and see if they have it. In any event, what I really wanted to say
was that from among all the so called KK-clones, Abhijeet's voice is the one I
like most, since it has his own indiviuality.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra