BINACA GEET MALA from 1971 to 1993
ravi_krishna
BGM was one of the most popular programs of its time. According
to my father in late 50s people use to flock outside road side
shops , dhabas , hotels to hear BGM every Wednesday 8pm to
9pm. Much of the popularity can be attributed to the great style of
presenting of compere Ameen Sayani.
Every week top 16 songs were played based on sales( in
select cities and that too in select shops only). Also the
opinion of "shrota sangho ki rai"(SSKR) (opinion of BGM club) was
taken into account for the ranking. The job of BGM club was to
monitor the popularity of songs and give their report. It was
this mysterious BGM club which was the cause of so many frauds in
the annual top hits.
How BGM works:- The song played at # 16 will get 1 point , # 15
song 2 points and like this the top song of the week will get 16
points. At the end of the year , on the last 2 Wednesdays of
the year , all the points for the song will be summed to
arrive at the most popular songs of the year. Theoretically one
can accurately predict the top 32 songs of the year if a log of
BGM is kept. But in almost every year , the top 5 songs use to
be different from the total of points, thanks to this mysterious
Shrota Sangho ki Rai which was used many times to boost
undeserving songs.
Since it's inception in 1953 till 1968 Shankar Jaikishan
were the number # 1 MD's in terms of maximum number of songs
played in the annual hit parade. In fact in one week of BGM all
the 16 songs were that of SJ. SJ were at last ousted by
Kalyanji-Anandji in 1969 as the number 1 MD .
Despite serious questions on the legitimacy of BGM it was
considered very prestigious in film industry. It is said that
SJ use to quote BGM to prove their superiority over rivals and
thus demand more remuneration. In the film Abhimaan BGM was
mentioned in a scene where Amitabh as a singer gets a feeling
that his wife Jaya Bhaduri has overtaken her in popularity.
BGM became Cibaca geet Mala once the product Binaca (toothpaste)
became Cibaca somewhere in early 80s. Also the format of the
program changed. In 1991 CGM was introduced in Vivid Bharti and
was discontinued in Radio Sri Lanka as the popularity of medium
wave radio station overtook short wave stations. Alas CGM did
not continue in radio for too long and it was stopped in 1994 ,
thus bringing an end to one of the most popular programs in the
history of indian radio.
It took me some time to compile the top song from 1971(the year from
which I remember ) to 1993 ( the last BGM).
Note: (1) There may be instances when films released at the fag end of the
year will have its top song in the next year BGM.
(2) My comments will be in the comments section. Those who know my
agenda will know what to expect.
(3) I am making this report straight off my hat. In case I make some
factual mistake please correct me.
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Year : 1971
Song : badi mastani hai , meri mehbooba
Film : Jeena Ki Raah
Singer : rafi
MD : Laxmi-Pyare
Comments : Raddi song. What else you expect from LP. My cousin insist that
this song was boosted by BGM as the expense of Carvan and Kati
Patang songs.
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Year : 1972
Song : Dum Maro Dum
Film : Hara Ram Hare Krishna
Singer : Asha
MD : R D Burman
Comments : Raddi song. A trend setter , this song catapulated RDB into the
top league. Incidentally this is the only RDB song in the list.
So much for RDB being # 1 in 70s.
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Year : 1973
Song : yaari hai iman mera yar meri zindagi
Film : Zanjeer
Singer : Manna Dey
MD : Kalyanji-Anandji
Comments : Super Raddi song.
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Year : 1974
Song : mera jeevan kora kaagaz kora hee rah
Film : Kora Kaagaz
Singer : Kishore Kumar
MD : Kalyanji-Anandji
Comments : A boring song devoid of any musical creativity. How this song
made into he top slot can be explained only by the mysterious
SSKR. Myself and my brother followed that year's BGM and we were
certain that either "Chura liya hein" (Yadon Ki Barat) or "Jai Jai
Shiv Shankar" (Aap Ki Kasam) will be the top song. Yet they ended
up at #3 and #2 respectively. While we are one the subject don't
u think the Ydaon Ki Barat song should be changed to the following
since RDB copied this song.
"chura liya hain tum ne jo tune ko .." :-)
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Year : 1975
Song : aur nahin bas aur nahin gham ke pyale
Film : Roti Kapada Aur Makan
Singer : Mahendra Kapoor
MD : Laxmi-Pyare
Comments : I like this song , not for the shouting of MK but for the
fantastic interlude music by LP , great piano work. Great
lyrics too.
-----
We moved to Delhi from Gwalior (Madhya Pradesh) and I immediately noticed
that in Delhi BGM was far less popular than in Gwalior. One major reason was
that Delhi had Vivid Bharati. VB was introduced by AIR specifically to
counter the popularity of Radio Sri Lanka. In small town like Gwalior where
there was no radio station to listen to songs , Radio Sri Lanka was the only
source of listening to songs.
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Year : 1976
Song : husn hazir hai mohabat kee saja
Film : Laila Majnu
Singer : Lata
MD : Madan Mohan
Comments : Nothing special about this song. Many felt this song was boosted
by SSKR as a tribute to Madan Mohan.
----
Year : 1977
The only year which I am not able to recollect. If someone can help me here
, that would be great.
-----
Year : 1978
Song : ankheion ke jarakon se
Film : Ankeion ke jarakon se
Singer : Hemlata
MD : Ravinder Jain
Comments : I simple hate this song. The #4 song was "aaj kal paon jameen"
(Ghar)- great. At # 3 was "Kya hua tera vada" (HKKN) - raddi.
At #2 was "aadmi musafir hain" (Apnapan)- (yuck)
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Year : 1979
Song : O sathi re tere bina
Film : Mukaddar Ka Sikandar
Singer : KK and Asha (in seperate version)
MD : Kalyanji-Anandji
Comments : Another BORING song. Could never understand why it was such a
hit.
-----
Year : 1980
Song : Dafli wale Dafli baja
Film : Sargam
Singer : Rafi and Lata
MD : Laxmi-Pyare
Comments : The raddiest combo of Rafi/Lata/LP again at work. This song was
boosted by SSKR after Rafi's death. I was absolutely certain that
"aap jaise koi" (Qurbani) will be the #1 for it had the best run
at the weekly program. Yet it was #4. At #3 was "on shanti om"
(Karz) , # 2 was "sheesha ho ya dil ho" (Aasha) - yuck. The top 3
had Laxmi-Pyare songs.
-----
Note: 1980 was the last year I followed BGM religiously. After that I lost
interest and just checked up the annual hits.
Around this time I was getting more involved with the music of genius
Ilayaraja and it drew me away from the sub standard Hindi film music
of 80s.
Listening to the magical quality of SPB/Raja was such a refreshing
change from the stale combo of KK/RDB in 80s.
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Year : 1981
Song : Mere angan mein tumara
Film : Lawaris
Singer : Amitabh and Alka Yagnik in seperate version.
MD : Kalyanji-Anandji
Comments : I think I will be insulting the taste of RMIM'ers if I say
anything further about this super raddi song.
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Year : 1982
Song : Angrezi mein kahate hein ki I love you
Film : Khuddar
Singer : KK and Lata
MD : Rajesh Roshan
Comments : RADDI song. Of couse KK fans will say otherwise.
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Year : 1983
Song : Shayad Mera Shadi Ka Khayal
Film : Souten
Singer : KK and Lata
MD : Usha Khanna
Comments : SUPER RADDI song. KK it seems had taken a vow to sing only raddi
songs in 80s.
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Year : 1984
Song : tu mera janu hein , to mera
Film : Hero
Singer : Manhar and Anurada Paudwal
MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
Comments : What to say about this raddi song.
-----
Year : 1985
Song : Sun saiba sun pyar ki dhun
Film : Ram Teri ganga Maili
Singer : Lata
MD : Ravinder Jain
Comments : This film had better songs but this raddi song was the #1. For RDB
fans- this was the last year in which RDB had a major presence in
BGM annual hit parade. He had 8 songs. They were:-
4 songs from Sagar: "chehra hain " , "o maria " , "sagar kinare"
and "jaane do na". One song from Arjun - "mamia kero kero ".
One song from Rahi Badal gaye "ek baat dil mein"
One song from Lava "jeene de duniya".
One song from Alag Alag "dil mein aag lagaya sawan"
After this year RDB popularity in BGM nosedived.
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Year : 1986
Song : Yashoda ka nand lala
Film : Sanjog
Singer : Lata
MD : Laxmi Pyare
Comments : OH another $%^&*!@# song.
For RDB fans:- no song of RDB in top 32.
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Year : 1987
Song : Chhite aayi hain
Film : Naam
Singer : Pankaj Udas
MD : Laxmi Pyare
Comments : The great decade of decadent , stale and completely useless music
of LaxmiPyare in action. This song only confirms it more.
For RDB fans:- only one song from Hifazat ("kahan se aayi").
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Year : 1988
Song : Papa Kahantain hain bada naam
Film : QSQT
Singer : Udit Narayan
MD : Anand Millind
Comments : After years of struggle , the eternal college farewell party
singer ( incidentally this song was picturised as a college
farewell party song ) UditN finally reached the top. There is
something really raddi about UNs voice. Whatever song he sings ,
he always sounds like a college farewell party singer.
For RDB fans , only one song made it to top 32 hits. The song from
Izzajat (mera kuch saman).
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Year : 1989
Song : My name is Lakhan
Film : Ram-Lakhan
Singer : Mohd Aziz
MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
Comments : Another proof of decadence of LaxmiPyare.
For RDB fans: only 1 song "Rama O Rama" (Rama-o-Rama)
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Year : 1990
Song : Gori hain kalian
Film : Aaj Ka Arjun
Singer : Lata and Mohd Aziz
MD : Bappi Lahiri
Comments : What a decline of the greatest Lata. I can't believe that songs of
Aaj of Arjun can be ahead of Maine Pyar Kiya.
-----
Year : 1991
Song : Dekha hain pahli baar
Film : Saajan
Singer : AlkaY and SPB
MD : Nadeem Shravan.
Comments : The year of NS domination in Hindi films (90-92). They did give OK
music in that period. Refershing change from the music of 80s
where our ears were assaulted by songs of raddi Laxmi-Pyare,
over-the-hill-chor RDB and ever mediocre Bappi Lahiri.However
this song is a raddi one, the best song of the film being "mera
dil bhi kitna pagal hai .."
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Year : 1992
Song : Maine pyaar tumhee se kiya hain
Film : Phool Aur Kante
Singer : Anuradha Paudwal and Kumar Sanu
MD : Nadeem Shravan.
Comments : I remember songs of this film were a big hit. I like the song
"dhere dhere pyaar ko badana hai". At #2 two songs tied :-
"aise deewangi " (Deewana) and "koyal se teri boli" (beta).
Incidentally both songs at #2 were a straight lift of south
songs. At #3 was "tu tu tu tara" (bol radha bol) , which again was
a copy of south song. Does it tell something about creativity of
hindi film music directors.
-----
Year : 1993
Song : Choli ke peeche kya hain
Film : Khalnayak
Singer : AlkaY.
MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
Comments : Just when the hindi film world sighed relief from the monotonous
music of LP , they gave this super duper raddi hit. At # 2 was
"baazigar o baazigar" (Bazigaar) , the film which catapulated
choron-ka-badshah Anu Mallik to top league.
One can clearly see that despite claims by RDB fans , RDB was not the only
popular MD of 70s. LA and KA were also giving hits. In fact I would say LP
were #1 in 70s. And we all know who was the #1 in 80s.
Also one can see the degradation of HFM in 70s , 80s and 90s. No wonder many
knowledgable music fans do not take the opinion of post 70 born generation
seriously.
-- RaviK.
ravi_krishna
>Year : 1976
>Song : husn hazir hai mohabat kee saja
>Film : Laila Majnu
>Singer : Lata
>MD : Madan Mohan
>Comments : Nothing special about this song. Many felt this song was boosted
> by SSKR as a tribute to Madan Mohan.
>----
>Year : 1977
>The only year which I am not able to recollect. If someone can help me here
>, that would be great.
>-----
Correction recvd from Satish Subramaniam. Thanks Satish.
Year : 1976
Song : Kabhi Kabhi mere dil main
Film : Kabhi Kabhi
Singer : Lata and Mukesh
MD : Khayyam
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Year : 1977
Song : husn hazir hai mohabat kee saja
Film : Laila Majnu
Singer : Lata
MD : Madan Mohan
-- RaviK.
SudeepAmin
Great work Ravi. Thanks for the list. I remember the days when I used to listen
to BGM with a lot of enthusiasm. Unfortunately after the advent of television
the radio took on a secondary role and BGM was lost to me. I still remember
nostalgically the days when we used to have the an old Philips valve radio and
we used to listen to the nightly radio programs, Jaymala on Vividh Bharati. I
still remeber the dim glow of the valve after the lights had been put off. I
guess I would still prefer to listen to the radio than watch a lot of crappy
programs that are being dished out today on the 'idiot box'.
Sudeep
P.S. We could done without your "raddi" comments. All the same, gives the
RMIM'ers an insight into your tastes.
SKalra902
> In fact in one week of BGM all
>the 16 songs were that of SJ. SJ were at last ousted by
>Kalyanji-Anandji in 1969 as the number 1 MD .
I would like to find out which year/week this happened in. Since the inception
of the BGM in 1954 to 1971, when I first left the country, I heard it almost
every week, and I am hoping it must have been in one of those missed programs.
BTW, from 1952 when the program actually started, to sometime in 1954, when it
was changed into its later format, it used to be only a half hour duration, 7
songs would be played, and the listeners would be asked to send in their
choice of those 7 songs, in order of preference. A Rs. 100 award used to be
given to one whose list matched the one made up by the most preferred songs by
most respondents, and so on.
Another point of note here, regards the "points" system. It was disontinued
sometime in the early sixties, IIRC, upon sustained and continuous objections
of MDs and film producers. Also, after a song had played in the BCG for
sixteen times, the song would be pulled out. Further, the one song that got
the most points during the points era was the "Zindagi bhar nahiN bhoolegi woh
barsaat ki raat" , 427 points, IIRC.
There were only a few instances where all the songs from a film made it to the
BCG not necessarily all in the same week, though. Nagin, Jagriti (both music
by Hemant) were two of them that I remember. So was CID, the exception being
the song that was not retained in the film. Can someone list other films
falling in that category?
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Anand Tiwari
In article , Ravi says...
>
>BGM was one of the most popular programs of its time. According
>to my father in late 50s people use to flock outside road side
Ravi,
Great post! Now "raddi" and "Super raddi" are my favourite words.
I am learning so much from you. Wish i had some more time to go thru the
individual comments about some of the "raddi" and "super raddi" songs
which you mentioned. In any case a sublime post!
>
>Also one can see the degradation of HFM in 70s , 80s and 90s. No wonder many
>knowledgable music fans do not take the opinion of post 70 born generation
>seriously
Yes! how can post '70s opinion be taken seriously? I really wonder how
you keep coming up with such logical and coherent arguements. Sheer
Genius!!!!
regards
Anand (a Ravi Krishna fan)
.
>
>-- RaviK.
Ashok
In article <6451g9$o...@drn.zippo.com>, RaviKrishna says...
Very nice article, Ravi. Impressive feat of memory. Your comments
on the sartaaj geet process are very informative.
There are a few differences with what I remember for the earlier
years you have covered and a few more discrepancies with the list
in the RMIM Archives article for the later years.
>Since it's inception in 1953 till 1968 Shankar Jaikishan
>were the number # 1 MD's in terms of maximum number of songs
>played in the annual hit parade. In fact in one week of BGM all
>the 16 songs were that of SJ. SJ were at last ousted by
>Kalyanji-Anandji in 1969 as the number 1 MD .
One of the early examples of "odd toppers" happened in 1965. You
might remember a Mukesh/Lata tandem from a film called 'Saheli'
with music by K-A: "jis dil mein basaa thaa pyar teraa." It is
a very average Mukesh song and the Lata version is far below average
as a Lata solo. K-A themselves have done better in the past: the
'Dulha Dulhan' tandem "ham ne tujh ko pyar kiya hai jitanaa" is
considerably better. And neither touches their 'Dil Bhi Tera Ham
Bhi Tere' masterpiece "mujh ko is raat ki tanahaai me.n". In the
year 1964-65, the 'Saheli' tandem song made a totally inexplicable,
but spectacular, march through the weekly Binaca rankings. Unlike
the topper of the earlier year "bol radha bol sangam", this one had
no street popularity, nor any critical praise. Further, it had a
very undistinguised frequency in the 'Farmaayish' programs. But it
stayed at the top of Binaca charts week after week and ended up
as the Sartaaj Geet #1 (Is that the expression or was that for the
weekly winner?) of 1965. It is still a mystery.
>Year : 1971
>Song : badi mastani hai , meri mehbooba
>Film : Jeena Ki Raah
>Singer : rafi
>MD : Laxmi-Pyare
>Comments : Raddi song. What else you expect from LP. My cousin insist that
> this song was boosted by BGM as the expense of Carvan and Kati
> Patang songs.
'Jeene Ki Raah' is a 1969 film. The song that topped the list in 1971
is almost certainly "zindagi ek safar hai suhaana" from 'Andaz' (SJ).
When a tandem song enters the weekly ranks, the custom was to alternate
the two versions as long as the song stayed in. I don't remember the
relative frequency in this case, but have a feeling it was the Kishore
version that outsold the Asha version (not to speak of the Rafi version!).
>Year : 1975
>Song : aur nahin bas aur nahin gham ke pyale
>Film : Roti Kapada Aur Makan
>Singer : Mahendra Kapoor
>MD : Laxmi-Pyare
>Comments : I like this song , not for the shouting of MK but for the
> fantastic interlude music by LP , great piano work. Great
> lyrics too.
According to the article, it was another song of the film, the Mukesh-Lata duet,
was the one that topped: "mehangaai maar gai", a raddier song, if you will!
I think Mahendra Kapoor won the best male singer Filmfare award for this one.
Who is the lyricist for this song? Santosh Anand? He did win the Filmfare for
best lyricist for the other raddier song "main na bhooloonga". I do like one
song in this film: Lata's "haay haay ye majboori".
>----
>Year : 1977
>The only year which I am not able to recollect. If someone can help me here
>, that would be great.
>-----
>Year : 1978
>Song : ankheion ke jarakon se
>Film : Ankeion ke jarakon se
>Singer : Hemlata
>MD : Ravinder Jain
>Comments : I simple hate this song.
Over-exposure, perhaps. Don't know about top of the year, but quite a nice song.
>Year : 1979
>Song : O sathi re tere bina
>Film : Mukaddar Ka Sikandar
>Singer : KK and Asha (in seperate version)
>MD : Kalyanji-Anandji
>Comments : Another BORING song. Could never understand why it was such a
> hit.
The RMIM article says the winner for 1979 is
"sheesha ho ya dil" from 'Asha'.
MKS is a 1978 film and 'Asha' is a 1980 film. Hence MKS is more likely.
>-----
>Year : 1984
>Song : tu mera janu hein , to mera
>Film : Hero
>Singer : Manhar and Anurada Paudwal
>MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
>Comments : What to say about this raddi song.
Are you sure the female singer is AP or Lata?
>-----
>Year : 1990
>Song : Gori hain kalian
>Film : Aaj Ka Arjun
>Singer : Lata and Mohd Aziz
>MD : Bappi Lahiri
>Comments : What a decline of the greatest Lata. I can't believe that songs of
> Aaj of Arjun can be ahead of Maine Pyar Kiya.
Is the male singer Mohammad Aziz or Shabbir Kumar?
>-----
>Year : 1993
>Song : Choli ke peeche kya hain
>Film : Khalnayak
>Singer : AlkaY.
>MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
It is a same-sex duet with Ila Arun and Alka Yagnik.
>One can clearly see that despite claims by RDB fans , RDB was not the only
>popular MD of 70s. LA and KA were also giving hits. In fact I would say LP
>were #1 in 70s. And we all know who was the #1 in 80s.
>
>Also one can see the degradation of HFM in 70s , 80s and 90s.
Other than "jo vaada kiyaa vo" and "saavan ka maheenaa", the 1961-70 period
was pretty gahstly, too, in terms of the #1 songs of the respective years.
In fact, even during the 1950s, only in the first and the last years
(with "tu ganga ki mauz" and "zindagi bhar nahin bhoolegi"), I would say
the #1 songs came from the segment of classiest songs of the year.
>No wonder many
>knowledgable music fans do not take the opinion of post 70 born generation
>seriously.
>
>-- RaviK.
Extending that logic, no one born after the inception of Binaca Geetmaala
(and Filmfare Awards) ought to be taken seriously. Perhaps so, although
it might render the set of serious RMIMers almost a null-set. :)
Ashok
Ravi Krishna
Ashok wrote:
>
> In article <6451g9$o...@drn.zippo.com>, RaviKrishna says...
>
> Very nice article, Ravi. Impressive feat of memory. Your comments
> on the sartaaj geet process are very informative.
Thanks. Yes it is true that the annual top 32 hits were rigged ( atleast
the
top 5 songs) thanks to SSKR. BGM knew very well that if only the sum
total
of points of a song played over the entire year is taken into account ,
there
will be no scope of any fraud. Hence the mysterious SSKR.
>
> stayed at the top of Binaca charts week after week and ended up
> as the Sartaaj Geet #1 (Is that the expression or was that for the
> weekly winner?) of 1965. It is still a mystery.
Sartaaj geet is the term to refer to the song which retires after a
designated number
of runs.
Annual hits need not necessarily take only sartaaz geet, though a
majority of 32 songs
is bound to be sartaaj geet because they have more points.
>
> 'Jeene Ki Raah' is a 1969 film. The song that topped the list in 1971
> is almost certainly "zindagi ek safar hai suhaana" from 'Andaz' (SJ).
> When a tandem song enters the weekly ranks, the custom was to alternate
> the two versions as long as the song stayed in. I don't remember the
> relative frequency in this case, but have a feeling it was the Kishore
> version that outsold the Asha version (not to speak of the Rafi version!).
Correction made. I was wrong.
> According to the article, it was another song of the film, the Mukesh-Lata duet,
> was the one that topped: "mehangaai maar gai", a raddier song, if you will!
> I think Mahendra Kapoor won the best male singer Filmfare award for this one.
> Who is the lyricist for this song? Santosh Anand? He did win the Filmfare for
> best lyricist for the other raddier song "main na bhooloonga". I do like one
> song in this film: Lata's "haay haay ye majboori".
Yes I have deluged with mails from RMIM'ers pointing out this mistake.
I don't know
why I still get the feeling that "aur nahin bus aur nahin" was the # 1
song.
> The RMIM article says the winner for 1979 is
> "sheesha ho ya dil" from 'Asha'.
>
> MKS is a 1978 film and 'Asha' is a 1980 film. Hence MKS is more likely.
RMIM article is wrong.
>
> >-----
> >Year : 1984
> >Song : tu mera janu hein , to mera
> >Film : Hero
> >Singer : Manhar and Anurada Paudwal
> >MD : Laxmi-Pyare.
> >Comments : What to say about this raddi song.
>
> Are you sure the female singer is AP or Lata?
To the best of my knowledge the singer was AP.
>
> >-----
> >Year : 1990
> >Song : Gori hain kalian
> >Film : Aaj Ka Arjun
> >Singer : Lata and Mohd Aziz
> >MD : Bappi Lahiri
> >Comments : What a decline of the greatest Lata. I can't believe that songs of
> > Aaj of Arjun can be ahead of Maine Pyar Kiya.
>
> Is the male singer Mohammad Aziz or Shabbir Kumar?
Does it matter. :-)
>
> Other than "jo vaada kiyaa vo" and "saavan ka maheenaa", the 1961-70 period
> was pretty gahstly, too, in terms of the #1 songs of the respective years.
> In fact, even during the 1950s, only in the first and the last years
> (with "tu ganga ki mauz" and "zindagi bhar nahin bhoolegi"), I would say
> the #1 songs came from the segment of classiest songs of the year.
If only the top song is taken into consideration you are right. But if
top 10 songs
of the year is taken into consideration , the pre 70 period had much
better songs.
On the contrary late 70s and early 80s had almost all top songs raddi.
Hence my
comment.
> Extending that logic, no one born after the inception of Binaca Geetmaala
> (and Filmfare Awards) ought to be taken seriously. Perhaps so, although
> it might render the set of serious RMIMers almost a null-set. :)
>
He He He. I liked it.
--
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Ravi Krishna
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anand_tiwari
In article , Ravi says...
>
>Year : 1976
>Song : Kabhi Kabhi mere dil main
>Film : Kabhi Kabhi
>Singer : Lata and Mukesh
>MD : Khayyam
>---
Ravi,
Please tell me whether this is a "raddi" or "super raddi" song? I am asking
you because you satisfy all criteria, most importantly you are not post
'70s born. Well IMWO (In my worthless opinion) i think you did not post
a keyword in your original post for this kind of songs ( or was i mistaken?)
SKalra902
Follow up on my earlier post on this subject:
Ravi Krishna wrote..>> In fact in one week of BGM all
>>the 16 songs were that of SJ. SJ were at last ousted by
>>Kalyanji-Anandji in 1969 as the number 1 MD .
S. Kalra wrote...>
>I would like to find out which year/week this happened in. Since the
>inception
> of the BGM in 1954 to 1971, when I first left the country, I heard it almost
> every week, and I am hoping it must have been in one of those missed
>programs.
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The only time I remember about a lot of songs by SJ in one Binaca Geet Mala was
when there were 12 out of 16 songs by them in one BGM.
In the 1974 program celebrating the 20th anniversary of BGM, that was mentioned
by Ameen Sayani, not 16 out of 16. Had that happened, it would have been
headline news all over.
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>
>BTW, from 1952 when the program actually started, to sometime in 1954, when
>it
> was changed into its later format, it used to be only a half hour duration,
>7
> songs would be played, and the listeners would be asked to send in their
> choice of those 7 songs, in order of preference. A Rs. 100 award used to be
> given to one whose list matched the one made up by the most preferred songs
>by
> most respondents, and so on.
>
>Another point of note here, regards the "points" system. It was disontinued
> sometime in the early sixties, IIRC, upon sustained and continuous
>objections
> of MDs and film producers.
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This chnage away from points was made in the mid-sixties, as per Ameen Sayani
himself in the 2 record lp set of the 25th anniversary of BGM, released in
1979. Until the mid-sixties, they used to announce the popint tally in the
annual programs.
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> Also, after a song had played in the BCG for
> sixteen times, the song would be pulled out.
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Make that 18 times, not 16. Again, refer to the 1979 2 lp set.
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> Further, the one song that got
> the most points during the points era was the "Zindagi bhar nahiN bhoolegi
>woh
> barsaat ki raat" , 427 points, IIRC.
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This as per my own recollection, since that year I had kept a tally of all the
songs played on BGM during the year, and as announced on the annual program. I
remember feeling very elated that my record keeping had been correct.
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Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
SKalra902
Ravi Krishna wrote:
>BGM had it's 1000th program somewhere in 1974. That was a special
>program for 2 hours.
>I remember entire Gwalior was talking about it.
>In that program Ameen Sayani traced the history of BGM and mentioned
>this. I believe it
>was somewhere in early 60s.
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I heard that program my self. And in that program, Mr. Sayani had played the
Nagin song "man dole mera tan dole" as the #1 song of 1955, whereas it was
actually the Sri 420 song "mera joota hai japani". In the first or second
program following the annual, Mr. Sayani announced receiving many letters
referring to this 'mistake'. The 2 lp set of 1979 does not make any reference
to this mistake at all.
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>
>Also I am not clear about your statement of "points" system. Point
>system and the points
>given by Shrota Sangho Ki Rai were always there. Ameen Sayani use to
>mention it very
>often. Also in the year 1974, in the annual top 32 hits , we checked up
>the points of
>all the songs with the log we maintained and it did tally ,save for top
>5 songs were as
>usual SSKR screwed up the total points.
>
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The SSKR system was included as a basis in the early seventies, alright. What
impact it had on the songs' ratings is open for discussion, though I can see
that this left a lot of "subjectivity" with the hosts, coupled with the
'opinions' contributed by MDs, producers, etc., which was now openly made to
the organizers.The points system continued upto the mid-sixties, and the annual
list was made up solely on the points basis until then.
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Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
SKalra902
Just a technical point. In the 12 CD set release of the Binaca Geet Mala
releasded in 1995/96, it is clearly mentioned that there was no annual BGM in
1954, but the #1 song selected is "jaayenin to jaayein kahaaN", perhaps based
upon the fact that it was the best song of 1954 in the Filmfare awards,
bringing the best music award to SD Burman. Some other anomalies in the set.,
Anarkali (1953) is mentioned as a 1952 film.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra