Sudhin dasgupta would have been as great as RD burman
syd
totally blown away with his great talented. Its a wonder he never
became as famous as as RD burman because of his absence from bollywood
music scene. Its a shame he is only well known in bengal. He would
surely have become as legendary as SD and RD.
His songs are as timeless as RD's and we would have had many s
dasgupta remixes by now.
rkusenet
> His songs are as timeless as RD's and we would have had many s
Thanks for warning about Sudhin Dasgupta.
regards.
rk-
> dasgupta remixes by now.
maild...@yahoo.com
songs by Sudhin Dasgupta ?
I have one tape (in Bengali), but didn't have the
chance to listen to it yet
Thanks
Sudhir
Vish
I was in Calcutta during Sudhin-Daspgupta's most productive days .. I
think his Asha Bhosle songs are far better than RD's and I am glad he
did not have to compose Hindi movie songs to establish 'greatness'. Let
us not measure greatness by "we would have had many dasgupta remixes by
now". RD's songs lend themsleves quite easily to remixes and to
soft-porn music videos with bimbettes who look like they don't even
understand the words they are wiggling to. God bless them. I will take
songs like 'kone shey allor shopno niye .." and ' hoy to tomari jonnyo
..' etc. that Sudhin_Dasgupta doled out in the 70s. I have a CD I got
from India and its a delight to listen to the originals. Eventually, a
musician's 'greatness' will be measured by "how many of his/her
original songs have escaped the attention of the (con)fused musicians
dishing out remixes " .... Woh Subah kabhi to aayegi ......
Vish
Archisman
songs of both that come to mind are:
For Asha-tai:
* akaashey aaj ronger khela (asha-tai's first ever bengali 'adhunik'
number)
* kon shey aalor shwapno niye
* amaar din kaate na
* shaagor daakey aaye
* aami andhokaarer jaatri prabhu aalor drishti daao
* mon metechhe mon mayurir ki khela
* raat ekhono onek baaki
For Manna-babu:
* hoyto tomaari jonyo (a benchmark for romantic songs)
* chaar dewaaler modhye nanaan drishyo-ke
* jibone ki paabo na (a great racy-peppy number)
* ogo tomaar shesh bichaarer ashaay
* aami taar thikana rakhini
* ami kon pathe je chali
* ke prothom kachhe eshechhi (this duet with Lata-bai is a benchmark
for romantic bengali songs. Sudhin-babu took the amazingly bold move of
introducing Manna as Uttam Kumar's playback voice. Till then, Hemanta
Mukherjee was the default choice and everyone except Sudhin-babu was
apprehensive about this major paradigm shift that was going to take
place as far the playback voice of the matinee idol was concerned. The
song became a raging hit).
Regards-Archisman.
Vinay
I think this would be an equally wrong way to measure the "greatness",
if at all any such measuring is even valid. In any case, even by this
logic RDB would "win" it from Sudhin or for that matter from most
others.
Vinay
> Vish
Ajit
jaabo" for Lata (movie: Shankhbela)?
Sambit Basu
> His usage of Asha-tai & Manna-babu have been superb. Some of the
great
> songs of both that come to mind are:
I find Sudhin Dasgupta's evolution as an MD very interesting.
His early compositions like for 'Daak-horkora' had all the
songs rooted on folk. Manna Dey had the priceless 'Ogo tomaar
shesh bichaarer ashay' and equally impressive 'laal paguDi
diye maathe'.
During the last stage of his life (SD had a premature death),
his compositions became known for unusual chord progression
and his signature arrangement based on Guitar strums and
electric organ (but who can forget the memorable piano prelude
for Asha's "aamaar din kaaTenaa?") that sounded very "western".
Most of the Asha songs were recorded during this period.
In the interim, Sudhin Dasgupta was unpredictbale, in a
good sense, with his composition. On one hand we had
Asha's 'Thuilaam re man padMapataay' (I hope I'm not
confusing with Nachiketa Ghosh as the composer of this
song) to Hemnta's wonderful rendition of a brillian peom
by Premendra Mitra "Sagar Theke Phera" to Satinath's
"Elo barasha je sahasha mane tai" to Dhananjay's "ei
jhir jhir jhir bataashe" to Subir Sen's "oi ujjwal din".
I find him one of the very best of composers of Bangla
songs.
- Sambit
Prithviraj Dasgupta
SudhinDG was a great composer, but IMO, he was surpassed
by contemporaries like SalilC and Nachiketa Ghosh in
versatility, innovativeness and mood-specific music.
SDG has a good body of his early ('50s) work with Subir Sen
but his one or two odd numbers with Manna(char deyaler),
Hemanta(sagar theke phera), Dhananjay(jhir jhir batase),
Shyamal(naam rekhechhi banalata) and Geeta(krishnachura agun
tumi) are superior to his more "prolific" stuff.
Also, contrary to syd's observation, SDG _was_ famous and his
music has been "remixed"(version songs) since the late '80s
- remember the Concord Trio?
For archival purposes, SDG's Bengali filmography:
Ulka 1957
Dakharkara 1958
Headmaster 1959
Gali Theke Rajpath 1959
Prabesh Nishedh 1960
Pankatilak 1961
Kanna 1962
Nishithe 1963
Dui Parba 1964
Akashkusum 1964
Tahole 1964
Sushanta Sha 1966
Shankhabela 1966
Abhisapta Chambal 1967
Akashchhoan 1967
Kakhano Megh 1968
Tinu Bhubaner pare 1969
Pratham Kadamphul 1970
Manjari Opera 1970
Jiban Saikate 1970
Palanka 1971
Joy Bangla 1971
Chhadmabeshi 1971
Picnic 1972
Jaban 1972
Har Mana Har 1972
Rater Rojonigandha 1973
Nishikanya 1973
Epar Opar 1973
Ek Je Chhilo Bagh 1973
Basantabilap 1973
Prantarekha 1974
Shajarur Kanta 1974
Sangini 1974
Sharmila 1975
Sedin Dujane 1975
Aparajita 1976
Hangsaraj 1976
Karunamoyee 1978
Job Charnaker Bibi 1979
Dour 1979
Pipasa 1982
Amrita Kumbher Sandhane 1982
Suparna 1983
Banasree 1983
-Prithviraj
Prithviraj Dasgupta
> Archisman wrote:
> > His usage of Asha-tai & Manna-babu have been superb. Some of the
> great
> > songs of both that come to mind are:
>
> I find Sudhin Dasgupta's evolution as an MD very interesting.
> His early compositions like for 'Daak-horkora' had all the
> songs rooted on folk. Manna Dey had the priceless 'Ogo tomaar
> shesh bichaarer ashay' and equally impressive 'laal paguDi
> diye maathe'.
Maybe the root of the music was the movie situation(Tarashankar's
story) where only folk songs would be appropriate. Apart from
this movie's soundtrack I can't think of any of his other songs,
composed before or after Daak-horkora as being folk-based.
>
> During the last stage of his life (SD had a premature death),
IIRC, 1982 or 1983 - it was a Sunday evening.
> his compositions became known for unusual chord progression
> and his signature arrangement based on Guitar strums and
> electric organ (but who can forget the memorable piano prelude
> for Asha's "aamaar din kaaTenaa?") that sounded very "western".
> Most of the Asha songs were recorded during this period.
>
> In the interim, Sudhin Dasgupta was unpredictbale, in a
> good sense, with his composition. On one hand we had
> Asha's 'Thuilaam re man padMapataay' (I hope I'm not
> confusing with Nachiketa Ghosh as the composer of this
> song)
It was Nachiketa Ghosh (flip side on 78 is "moner naam madhumati").
Asha's only non-film songs with SDG are 'naach mayuri' and 'akaashe
aaj ranger khela', released, IIRC, in 1958.
> I find him one of the very best of composers of Bangla
> songs.
I agree.
-Prithviraj
Abhijit
Sambit Basu wrote:
> song) to Hemnta's wonderful rendition of a brillian peom
> by Premendra Mitra "Sagar Theke Phera" to Satinath's
> "Elo barasha je sahasha mane tai" to Dhananjay's "ei
> jhir jhir jhir bataashe" to Subir Sen's "oi ujjwal din".
>
> I find him one of the very best of composers of Bangla
> songs.
>
the way I liked (comparison with RDB). Some of his good songs I can
recall are:
- ekaTaa gaan likho aamaar janya (Protima)
- taar chhu.Diite je rekhechhi man sonaa kare (Manabendra)
- eto suur aar eto gaan (Subir Sen)
Satish Kalra
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> Vish wrote:
...snipped....
Are there any books on Teach Yourself Bengali (via English or Hindi)?
Availability inthe U.S., source, etc.
--
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra
Archisman
good sense, with his composition. On one hand we had
Asha's 'Thuilaam re man padMapataay' (I hope I'm not
confusing with Nachiketa Ghosh as the composer of this
Thuilaam re mon is indeed Nachiketa Ghosh. The flip side of the EP
record had 'moner naam madhumati'.
While Salil Chowdhury was the undisputed king as far as innovative
compositions went, Sudhin Dasgupta (in my opinion) compared very
favourably with Nachiketa Ghosh during their heydays. The song 'raat
ekhono onek baaki' (by Asha-tai) is a beautiful example of his
creativity. How seamlessly has he merged the strains of raag khamaj
with a western-style orchestration! And as for the singer, well, she's
beyond all superlatives.
Sudhin Dasgupta, I'm told, was very keen to work with Kishore Kumar.
However, Kishore, in the 60-s had his own set of problems and a
potentially great combination never really took off.
Regards-Archisman.
kcp
way to start the morning !!!
KCP
Archisman
In my humble opinion, Asha-tai's bengali songs for RD (in the 70's
decade) are comparable to any combination in Bengali 'adhunik' music
(except, perhaps, the Salil-Hemanta team of the 50's). Songs like 'jete
daao amaay deko naa', 'phule gandho nei', 'katha diye ele naa', 'pora
banshi shunle', 'mahuaay jomechhe aaj mou', 'ekti kotha hai shey to
koilo na re', 'naa ekhoniyi noy', 'chokhey chokhey katha bolo', a
revelations in top quality orchestration & recording standards. And
Asha-tai's voice just assumed a new dimension under these parameters.
If Sudhin-babu exploited the melliflousness of Asha-tai's voice, RD
tapped the 'gay abandon' & the unbridled joy of her voice.
Regards-Archisman.
Asif
but now I am very interested in listening to his songs from the '70s,
especially the ones that sound like R.D. Burman's. R.D. Burman's music
was highly energetic and pulsating in the '70s - Mere Jeevan Saathi, Aa
Gale Lag Jaa, Jawani Deewani, Yaadon Ki Baraat, MANORANJAN, Khel Khel
Mein, Aap Ki Kasam, and Hum Kisise Kum Naheen to name just a few. I am
curious to listen to Dasgupta songs that sound more like RDB's songs in
these films. Are there any songs available (on Internet) that I can
download/play? Thanks.
Any music director who composed music that sounds like RDB's has always
fascinated me, for example:
1. Ulfat mein zamaane ki (Call Girl, 1973) - Sapan Jagmohan
2. Ye mehfil yoon hi sajegi (Aaj Ki Dhaara, 1973) - Sapan Jagmohan
3. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chalen (Zameer, 1975) - Sapan Chakraborty
4. Nainon mein darpan hai (Aarop, 1975) - Bhupen Hazarika
5. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par (Yaasmin, 1973) - Basu Manohari
6. Waada karo jaanam (Sabse Bada Rupaiyya, 1976) - Basu Manohari
Asif
Anand Tiwari
If you can get hold of any Sudhin Dasgupta songs, please let me know.
anand
Asif
I am restless to listen to some of SDG songs. Is it possible for you
to give me a copy of the CD you have? I live in Chicago. And so does
Anand Tiwari, and we both work at the same place. One CD from you will
delight two fans. Please let me know and send me email (if you please)
at m _ asifalvi .. you can send it at yahoo dot com. I would greatly
appreciate your favor. And let me know if I can give you any
album/song you might be looking for. Thanks.
Asif
Surjit Singh
Yahoo search shows these (and probably many more) :)
Best of SDG:
Golden Hour SDG
http://www.indiaplaza.com/search/globalsearch.asp?place=US&val=Gupt
Archisman
http://www.hamaracd.com/hcdindia/asp/Collectionsongs.asp?Giftid=G319&cbogiftideas=2
Regards-Archisman
Prithviraj Dasgupta
> Are Bhai Logo:
>
> Yahoo search shows these (and probably many more) :)
>
> Best of SDG:
>
>
http://www.khazana.com/et/products/product_by_artist.asp?mscssid=QJ010PQHF3S98J7WA4U1M6WA879B2EBA&Region=&Country=India&Department=Music&Artist=Sudhin%20Dasgupta&Sub%FDept=&List=
>
> Golden Hour SDG
>
> http://www.indiaplaza.com/search/globalsearch.asp?place=US&val=Gupt
>
I hate it when Profs have to do others'(students') homework.
-pdg/
Animesh Kumar
May be he was just providing model solutions :)
Best
A
jyotiprakasguha
Mukherjee, Shyamal Mitra and Chinmoy lahiri did the playback.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.
