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Satish Kalra

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Oct 14, 2004, 9:19:16 PM10/14/04
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>
>
> UVR wrote:
>
> > Surjit Singh wrote at 10/14/2004 3:47 PM US-Pacific:
> >
> >>
> >> Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
> >>
> >> For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden
> >> era. The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done
> >> badly on purpose.
> >>
> >> QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
> >
> >
> > Don't know the answer to the quiz, but see below.
> >
> >> BONUS: Other examples.
> >
> >
> > Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
> > laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
> > Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
> > *very* melodiously).
> >
> > "Brayed", btw, is not meant to be an insult. Infact, it's a compliment.
> > It's incredibly hard to sing as far out of tune as this song was sung.
>
> I have always believed that in order to sing bad well you have to know
> how to sing well well!
>
> >
> > -UVR.
>

Sounds like Shahrukh Khan who says repeatedly that in order to "overact" you
have to know how to act!!

BTW, just saw that UVR had already referrred to the same song that I had in
as No. 1 in my other post.

--
Happy Listenings.

Satish Kalra


Satish Kalra

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Oct 14, 2004, 9:16:13 PM10/14/04
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"Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Afzal A. Khan wrote:
>
> >
> > Surjit Singh wrote:
> >
> >>Hi RMIMers:
> >>
> >>Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
> >>were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
> >>singing.

> >>
> >>Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
> >>
> >>For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
> >>The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
> >>purpose.
> >>
> >>QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
> >>
> >>BONUS: Other examples.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Munimji". "Dil kee umaNgeN haiN jawaaaaaaN" ! SDB.
>
> Yup.
>
> >
> > BTW, I wonder why you use the word "BONUS". Actually,
> > the proper word should be "PENALTY" !
> >
>
> I see, again!
>
> Actually the idea is that if the QUIZ or a series of them generate
> enough interest, there may be the usual rewards in the form of new stuff
> on my website, whenever I have some free time. And, BONUS refers to even
> more stuff!
>
> In another movie, a ganguly brother is made to sing badly.
> In yet another, a different ganguly brother sings badly, on purpose, of
> course.

1. Anoop Kumar. In a film one year later than for No. 2.
2. Kishore Kumar himself, in a film where its chorus song led by KK entered
as No. 2 in Binaca the first time it made it.

UVR

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Oct 14, 2004, 9:24:01 PM10/14/04
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Satish Kalra wrote at 10/14/2004 6:19 PM US-Pacific:

> "Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>UVR wrote:
>>
>>>Surjit Singh wrote at 10/14/2004 3:47 PM US-Pacific:
>>>
>>>>BONUS: Other examples (of bad singing with a purpose)

>>>
>>>Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
>>>laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
>>>Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
>>>*very* melodiously).
>>>
>>>"Brayed", btw, is not meant to be an insult. Infact, it's a compliment.
>>>It's incredibly hard to sing as far out of tune as this song was sung.
>
>I have always believed that in order to sing bad well you have to know
>>how to sing well well!
>
>
> Sounds like Shahrukh Khan who says repeatedly that in order to "overact" you
> have to know how to act!!

Not necessary. I know a few people (both genders) who sing VERY
badly indeed. The joke is, they really believe they are singing
melodiously!

> BTW, just saw that UVR had already referrred to the same song that I had in
> as No. 1 in my other post.

Question: was it Manna Dey or Anoop Kumar himself "singing" that
song? It has been a while since I saw the movie, but I don't
remember Anoop Kumar's name in the 'singer' credits.

-UVR.

Sunil Dandekar

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Oct 15, 2004, 12:35:18 AM10/15/04
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Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2t8dvmF...@uni-berlin.de>...

> Hi RMIMers:
>
> Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
> were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
> singing.
>
> Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
>
> For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
> The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
> purpose.
>
> QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
>
> BONUS: Other examples.

Dil ki umange hain jawan - Munimji - S.D.Berman?

Satish Kalra

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Oct 14, 2004, 10:53:31 PM10/14/04
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"UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I was referring to the Ganguly brothers on whom the songs were filmed.

I too saw the film over 25 years ago, so don't remember much.

Archisman

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Oct 14, 2004, 11:59:19 PM10/14/04
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Dear Surjit-saab,

Is is 'dil ki umangein hain jawaan' from 'munimji'? Geeta, Hemant & Pran?

Regards-Archisman.

Chetan Vinchhi

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Oct 15, 2004, 2:52:43 AM10/15/04
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"UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:10mu7he...@corp.supernews.com...

>
> Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
> laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
> Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
> *very* melodiously).

I don't think the singer was Manna Dey. It was not picturized on
Anoop Kumar's character (who was a good singer) but on his friend
(who was a painter?). Due to some identity confusions Ameeta(?)
thought he was a singer. And so on.

And oh yes, Sudha Malhotra sang her part very nicely.

C


Abhay Jain

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Oct 15, 2004, 8:06:07 AM10/15/04
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"Satish Kalra" <Satish...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2t8m1sF...@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> > UVR wrote:
> >
> > > Surjit Singh wrote at 10/14/2004 3:47 PM US-Pacific:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
> > >>
> > >> For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden
> > >> era. The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done
> > >> badly on purpose.
> > >>
> > >> QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't know the answer to the quiz, but see below.
> > >
> > >> BONUS: Other examples.
> > >
> > >
> > > Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
> > > laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
> > > Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
> > > *very* melodiously).
> > >
> > > "Brayed", btw, is not meant to be an insult. Infact, it's a
compliment.
> > > It's incredibly hard to sing as far out of tune as this song was sung.
> >
> > I have always believed that in order to sing bad well you have to know
> > how to sing well well!
> >
> > >
> > > -UVR.
> >
>
> Sounds like Shahrukh Khan who says repeatedly that in order to "overact"
you
> have to know how to act!!

Are you implying he knows how to act?

Surjit Singh

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Oct 15, 2004, 3:06:43 PM10/15/04
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Sanjeev Ramabhadran wrote:
> Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2t8dvmF...@uni-berlin.de>...
>
>>Hi RMIMers:
>>
>>Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
>>were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
>>singing.
>>

>>Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
>>
>>For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
>>The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
>>purpose.
>>
>>QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
>>

>>BONUS: Other examples.
>
>
> Though it's not really a "song", I just remembered another favorite
> "bad singing" moment, one of the few worthwhile moments (IMO) of the
> movie Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. Ajay Devgan, with much prodding, puts
> out a very earnest (and tuneless) version of "Chingaari Koi Bhadke",
> to which the response from Aishwarya Rai's father is something like
> "aawaaz men dard bahut hai, bas sur aur taal ki kami hai, vo meri beti

aawaaze.n dard! LOL. This is like when some of my Indian friends say
after seeing an arthouse movie, "photography is very good", or when my
US friends say after watching an Indian movie or listening to Lata,
"very interesting" :)

> poori karegi".
>
> Sanjeev

Sanjeev Ramabhadran

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Oct 15, 2004, 12:23:41 PM10/15/04
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Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2t8dvmF...@uni-berlin.de>...
> Hi RMIMers:
>
> Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
> were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
> singing.
>
> Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
>
> For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
> The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
> purpose.
>
> QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
>
> BONUS: Other examples.

Several people have posted the correct answer.

Not sure if this example would quite fit the bill, but here goes.
Another astounding (IMO) instance comes from the Malayalam film
"Bharatam". The song "Shree Vinaayakam Namaamyaham" is first sung by
Balamuralikrishna, with a follow-up by Yesudas. The situation is that
big brother is an established classical concert singer fallen on bad
days, frequently drinking himself into oblivion. He shows up on stage
one day in such a plight, and the normally delighted listeners begin
jeering him as his slurred voice and confused mind fumble horribly.
Little brother is in the hall and can't take big brother being treated
that way, so he brilliantly comes to his rescue, silencing all the
hecklers - and if I remember correctly, forever replacing big brother
as the local "top dog" - Ramesh Hariharan and anyone else who's seen
the movie, am I right?

Yesudas has sung well as might be expected, but Balamurali (who has
sung other songs in the movie in his "normal" voice) is positively
*unrecognizable*, having sung (albeit purposefully) so *badly*. IMO,
his is an excellent depiction of an incapacitated though well-trained
singer. If I ever meet BMK again, I have half a mind to include this
situational rendition in my list of compliments to him!

Sanjeev

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 15, 2004, 2:51:17 PM10/15/04
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Surjit Singh wrote:

> Sorry about that. It was not a ganguli bro. Thanks for catching it,
> Chetan. It is picturized on Daljit (pretends to be singer) and Parvin
> Paul (maataajii).
>
> At the end of this movie, a veteran actor (who also sang his own songs
> some times) belts out a song from an SJ film.
>
> QUIZ: Name this song, the veteran actor and another song that he sang in
> the fifties (this one is missing from my copy of this movie).


The actor was Sunder, who died some years back.
I can't recall the song at the end of the picture,
except that he recites the doha on which the film's
title was based.

I think he sang in a film called "Panchayat" stg.
Shyama. It was something about "Ram Dulari",
sung for Manorama.


Afzal

Afzal A. Khan

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Surjit Singh wrote:


>
> Afzal A. Khan wrote:
>
> >
> > Surjit Singh wrote:
> >
> >>Chetan Vinchhi wrote:
> >>
> >>>"UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:10mu7he...@corp.supernews.com...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
> >>>>laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
> >>>>Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
> >>>>*very* melodiously).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I don't think the singer was Manna Dey. It was not picturized on
> >>>Anoop Kumar's character (who was a good singer) but on his friend
> >>>(who was a painter?). Due to some identity confusions Ameeta(?)
> >>>thought he was a singer. And so on.
> >>
> >>Sorry about that. It was not a ganguli bro. Thanks for catching it,
> >>Chetan. It is picturized on Daljit (pretends to be singer) and Parvin
> >>Paul (maataajii).
> >>
> >>At the end of this movie, a veteran actor (who also sang his own songs
> >>some times) belts out a song from an SJ film.
> >>
> >>QUIZ: Name this song, the veteran actor and another song that he sang in
> >>the fifties (this one is missing from my copy of this movie).
> >
>

> HINT:
>
> The fifties song has a reference to a landmark in Delhi. I saw this
> landmark in its full glory (obviously was a backdrop) in a recent movie
> whose action takes place in Delhi.


>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The actor was Sunder, who died some years back.
> > I can't recall the song at the end of the picture,
> > except that he recites the doha on which the film's
> > title was based.
>

> Yes. Sunder Singh. The song he sang was a very famous talat number
> mouthed by yusuf mian in an SJ film.


>
> >
> > I think he sang in a film called "Panchayat" stg.
> > Shyama. It was something about "Ram Dulari",
> > sung for Manorama.
> >
> >
> > Afzal


I believe you are referring to "Ai mire dil kaheeN
aur chal...".


Afzal

Satish Kalra

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"Sanjeev Ramabhadran" <sanj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Chetan Vinchhi" <mylas...@hotmailxyz.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, you are right about the movie plot and IMO about it not being
> Manna Dey. I am fairly sure that the singing *was* done by Anoop
> Kumar. Even the spoken parts (e.g. "Mataji, Aap Hi, er...Gaate
> Rahiye") sound like Anoop Kumar's voice, and the DKR cassette I have
> credits Anoop Kumar and Sudha Malhotra. On another note, AK also
> coughs profusely in this song when he tries too many "acrobatics" and
> his voice won't keep up :-)
>
> Sanjeev

The song in question was "tum merii raakho laaj hari...". The CD combo of
seema/Dekh Kabirta Roya does not have this song. HFGK credits only Sudha
Malhotra for the song, with a footnote that there was a "male" voice in the
song.

To the best of my recollection, the male voice is of Anoop Kumar, though
lip-sung by Daljeet in the film, a-la "tere aage bolanaa dushwaar ho
gayaa..." or "phul gendavaa na maaro" or "mere saamane waalii khidakii
mein..."!

UVR

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Oct 15, 2004, 1:21:55 PM10/15/04
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The person on the screen was, most unequivocally, Anoop Kumar.
My memory is not *that* bad, Chetan :)

Anoop Kumar is visiting Ameeta's house under the pretext of
being a good singer. Ameeta's mausi (aunt) invites him into
the family 'mandir' to sing bhajans, saying something to the
effect that "beTaa, mai.nne sunaa hai tum bahut achchhaa gaate
ho. ek bhajan sunaa do, naa." Of course, all our man can do
is to blare our "tuma meree raakho~~ laaj haree ... haree ... hareeeeee".

I'm not so sure the singer was Manna Dey, hence the use of
the mark of dubiousness [viz., "(?)"] against his name above.

-UVR.

Satish Kalra

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"Sanjeev Ramabhadran" <sanj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2t8dvmF...@uni-berlin.de>...
> > Hi RMIMers:
> >
> > Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
> > were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
> > singing.
> >
> > Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
> >
> > For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
> > The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
> > purpose.
> >
> > QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
> >
> > BONUS: Other examples.
>
> Though it's not really a "song", I just remembered another favorite
> "bad singing" moment, one of the few worthwhile moments (IMO) of the
> movie Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. Ajay Devgan, with much prodding, puts
> out a very earnest (and tuneless) version of "Chingaari Koi Bhadke",
> to which the response from Aishwarya Rai's father is something like
> "aawaaz men dard bahut hai, bas sur aur taal ki kami hai, vo meri beti
> poori karegi".
>
> Sanjeev

Waah, waah, Sanjeev! Kyaa baat hai! ab aap bhii dialogues quote karane
lage. :-)

Absolutely right, though.

shri kumar

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sunnyd...@yahoo.com (Sunil Dandekar) wrote in message news:<1f851c34.0410...@posting.google.com>...


singing badly reminds me of one parody song of Albela " Dukhke ab
din bitata nahi.." picuturised on comedian Sundar --maybe he only sang
it...

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 15, 2004, 2:46:02 PM10/15/04
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Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> Afzal A. Khan wrote:
>
> >
> > Surjit Singh wrote:
> >

> >>Hi RMIMers:
> >>
> >>Recently an RMIMer called into question whether Motilal and Ashok Kumar
> >>were actually singing when the public was lead to believe that they were
> >>singing.
> >>
> >>Actually there are examples when singing is not singing.
> >>
> >>For example, consider Pran's voice in a famous song from the Golden era.
> >>The heroine implores him to sing, poor guy does and it is done badly on
> >>purpose.
> >>
> >>QUIZ: Which song, movie, MD?
> >>
> >>BONUS: Other examples.
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > "Munimji". "Dil kee umaNgeN haiN jawaaaaaaN" ! SDB.
>
> Yup.


One more song in this genre (sung badly on
purpose) was from the film "Miss Mary" (1957).
"Gaana na aaya, bajaana na aaya..."
"Sung" by (who else) KK.

Afzal

Satish Kalra

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> "Satish Kalra" <Satish...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> KK has a song in Miss Mary, "gaana na aayaa, bajaanaa na aayaa" where he
> does try to sing badly. Of course, the "bad singing" is not a patch on the
> hilarious "meeku meere maaku meme" by ANR in the Telugu equivalent. That
> ANR version comes closer to the "tum meri raakho laaj" quality.
>
> I cannot recall any KK chorus song in Miss Mary, so you must be refering
> to some other song...why do I think of New Delhi?

You are right there, Vijay. It is New Delhi, whose "nakhre waalii..."
entered at the No. 2 spot in Binaca.

But the 'besur' song I was referring to is the prelude before "milate hii
nazar aap mere dil meina aa gaye..". KK intentionally starts as a
"besuraa".

Satish Kalra

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> > Sounds like Shahrukh Khan who says repeatedly that in order to "overact"
> you
> > have to know how to act!!
>
> Are you implying he knows how to act?

He 'may' "know" how to act, yes. Does he act well? Not at all. As a
matter of fact, I don't like him/his acting at all. I was merely "quoting"
his response in one of the film magazines awhile ago.

Surjit Singh

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Sanjeev Ramabhadran wrote:

> "Chetan Vinchhi" <mylas...@hotmailxyz.com> wrote in message news:<cknrtt$c...@netnews.proxy.lucent.com>...
>

> Yes, you are right about the movie plot and IMO about it not being
> Manna Dey. I am fairly sure that the singing *was* done by Anoop
> Kumar. Even the spoken parts (e.g. "Mataji, Aap Hi, er...Gaate
> Rahiye") sound like Anoop Kumar's voice, and the DKR cassette I have
> credits Anoop Kumar and Sudha Malhotra. On another note, AK also
> coughs profusely in this song when he tries too many "acrobatics" and
> his voice won't keep up :-)

Sorry about the ganguli bro mixup. Thanks Chetan and Sanjeev.

Mataji is Pravin Paul and the actor pretending to be a singer is Daljit.

>
> Sanjeev

UVR

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UVR wrote at 10/15/2004 10:21 AM US-Pacific:
> Chetan Vinchhi wrote at 10/14/2004 11:52 PM US-Pacific:
>
>> "UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:10mu7he...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>> Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
>>> laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
>>> Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
>>> *very* melodiously).
>>
>> I don't think the singer was Manna Dey. It was not picturized on
>> Anoop Kumar's character (who was a good singer) but on his friend
>> (who was a painter?). Due to some identity confusions Ameeta(?)
>> thought he was a singer. And so on.
>>
>> And oh yes, Sudha Malhotra sang her part very nicely.
>
> The person on the screen was, most unequivocally, Anoop Kumar.
> My memory is not *that* bad, Chetan :)

Okay, [after having perused Dr. Singh's responses] it would
appear that it *is* that bad :-P My apologies to all.

-UVR.

Surjit Singh

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Dr. M. L. Kapur another one:

"Name the song and movie in which legendary K L Saigal intentionaly
sings badly, in fact says mujhe gana nahin aata."

Surjit Singh wrote:
>
>
> Afzal A. Khan wrote:
>
>>

>> Surjit Singh wrote:
>>
>>> Chetan Vinchhi wrote:
>>>
>>>> "UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:10mu7he...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Manna Dey(?) brayed one non-song in Dekh Kabira Roya: 'tum meri rakho
>>>>> laaj hari', playbacking for Anoop Kumar's character (duet with Sudha
>>>>> Malhotra, I think, doing the honors for the female part, and singing
>>>>> *very* melodiously).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the singer was Manna Dey. It was not picturized on
>>>> Anoop Kumar's character (who was a good singer) but on his friend
>>>> (who was a painter?). Due to some identity confusions Ameeta(?)
>>>> thought he was a singer. And so on.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry about that. It was not a ganguli bro. Thanks for catching it,
>>> Chetan. It is picturized on Daljit (pretends to be singer) and Parvin
>>> Paul (maataajii).
>>>
>>> At the end of this movie, a veteran actor (who also sang his own songs
>>> some times) belts out a song from an SJ film.
>>>
>>> QUIZ: Name this song, the veteran actor and another song that he sang in
>>> the fifties (this one is missing from my copy of this movie).
>>
>>
>

> HINT:
>
> The fifties song has a reference to a landmark in Delhi. I saw this
> landmark in its full glory (obviously was a backdrop) in a recent movie
> whose action takes place in Delhi.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>> The actor was Sunder, who died some years back.
>> I can't recall the song at the end of the picture,
>> except that he recites the doha on which the film's
>> title was based.
>
>

> Yes. Sunder Singh. The song he sang was a very famous talat number
> mouthed by yusuf mian in an SJ film.
>
>>

>> I think he sang in a film called "Panchayat" stg.
>> Shyama. It was something about "Ram Dulari", sung
>> for Manorama.
>>
>>
>> Afzal
>
>

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Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html

Ashok

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In article <2tb0s1F...@uni-berlin.de>,
surjit...@yahoo.com says...

>Can you please stop lecturing us on spelling and stuff
>until you learn how to formulate and write a short post properly? TIA.

Then

In article <2td5uqF...@uni-berlin.de>,
surjit...@yahoo.com says...

>Dr. M. L. Kapur another one:

>Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
>http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html

"You Said It".


Ashok

singh

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hipaTullaa!

>
> Ashok
>

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anil11...@yahoo.com

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singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2tedu7F...@uni-berlin.de>...

> Ashok wrote:
> > In article <2tb0s1F...@uni-berlin.de>,
> > surjit...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >
> >>Can you please stop lecturing us on spelling and stuff
> >>until you learn how to formulate and write a short post properly? TIA.
> >
> >
> > Then
> >
> > In article <2td5uqF...@uni-berlin.de>,
> > surjit...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >
> >>Dr. M. L. Kapur another one:
> >
> >
> >>Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
> >>http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
> >
> >
> > "You Said It".
> >
>
> hipaTullaa!
>
> >
> > Ashok
> >

Meri Behan , this was the only song PM didnot render .
I hope you guess !!

Anil

shri kumar

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Oct 17, 2004, 12:47:03 PM10/17/04
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Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> aawaaze.n dard! LOL. This is like when some of my Indian friends say
> after seeing an arthouse movie, "photography is very good", or when my
> US friends say after watching an Indian movie or listening to Lata,
> "very interesting" :)

Nice to know you have friends and that too all over world..!!what do
your friends from other countries sya ??

Chetan Vinchhi

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"Satish Kalra" <Satish...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> To the best of my recollection, the male voice is of Anoop Kumar, though
> lip-sung by Daljeet in the film, a-la "tere aage bolanaa dushwaar ho
> gayaa..." or "phul gendavaa na maaro" or "mere saamane waalii khidakii
> mein..."!

Not at all. In the movie, the character played by Daljeet is supposed
to be singing the song. Anoop Kumar is not present on the screen in
this sequence.

Assuming Anoop Kumar has indeed sung this, it is an interesting
scenario - an actor providing playback for another character in the
same movie.

QUIZ: Name another such instance.

Hint for model answer: It is a duet and both singers were featured
in the recently concluded RJGK.

C


Abhay Jain

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"Chetan Vinchhi" <mylas...@hotmailxyz.com> wrote in message
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I don't know about duet, but KK sang for Sunil Dutt in Padosan.

AJ


Chetan Vinchhi

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"Abhay Jain" <aba...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know about duet, but KK sang for Sunil Dutt in Padosan.

Did he? Is there a song in the movie that was actually sung by
Sunil Dutt's character? Or are all songs lip-synched by him but
actually sung by KK's character?

Hint 2 for the model answer: The actor and actor/singer are
brothers.

C


ravi

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I remember one duet where KK sings with probably Shamshad Begum.
" Jo tum karo maiN kar sakti hooN badhke, eji badhake,
MaiN akr sakata hooN tum se bhii badh chadh ke"

I don't know any more about the song. It sonds like a typical fun-song of 50's.

Comments?

Ravi

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V S Rawat वी एस रावत

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ravi wrote:
> I remember one duet where KK sings with probably Shamshad Begum.
> " Jo tum karo maiN kar sakti hooN badhke, eji badhake,
> MaiN akr sakata hooN tum se bhii badh chadh ke"
>
> I don't know any more about the song. It sonds like a typical fun-song of 50's.

Adaa/ 1951
Kishore, Shamshad
Madan Mohan
Prem Dhawan

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Rawat

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