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Anant Rege

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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I just finished reading an interview with one of my most favorite directors
'Vijay Anand' on www.rediff.com. While reading that, I remembered one of the
film he made in early 70's called 'Chor Chor'. It was a quite smart film
which had no interval, no songs. Vijay Anand himself played the role of man
trying to find the murderer of his father. There was a typical hindi film
party scene where everybody requests the hero to sing a song. Ideal scenario
for a hit KK song, right? Wrong. Vijay cleared his throat, humm a little bit
and sang 'Phaili hui hai sapanon ki bahe, Aja chalde kahi door'. I just
loved that. I think he sang the mukhada and first stanza. Well he was
nowhere near an accomplished singer. But did quite a decent job IMO. We are
so much used to hear a Lata or a Asha or a Rafi/KK etc voice whenever
actors or actresses open their mouth, that some exceptions like this give me
tremendous pleasure. Obviously I am not complaining against play back
singing. We have tons of songs to prove that, before the advent of play back
singing. (With the exceptions like Saigal, Khurshid, Noorjehan, Suraiya).
But once playback singing started, MD's refused to let actors take a shot at
it more than once in a while. Even when the situation was ripe for that.
Example is recently discussed song on RMIM. 'Ye hasta hua caravan jindagi
ka, na puchho chala hai kidhar'. Hemant kumar required Asha to say couple
of words in it. Now how Asha did a wonderful job of it we all know courtesy
Hrishi,Afzal. But I would have liked it more if Vaijayanti Mala had tried
that(Actually I would have been even more comfortable if the actress was
Waheeda Rehman) . I don't think it would have been a total disaster.
Actually actors like Dilip Kumar (duet with Lata in Musafir), Rajkapoor (Pl.
check one of the recent ATMJH), Nutan ('Ai mere husafar' in Chhabili) were
pretty decent singers. So I don't know why MDs did not try them more than
these couple of very rare occasions. Of course overdose of it is also bad.
(Amitabh?) That is why I enjoy couple of incidents like these where the
actor not known for his/her singing prowess, humms or sings a little bit.
Actually sometimes I felt that when a non singer sings with an accomplished
one, it in fact adds to the overall effect of the song. One of my favourite
song is Karan Diwan and Lata duet in the film 'Lahore'.- 'Duniya hamare
pyaar ki, yun hi jawa rahe, Mai bhi wohi rahoon, mera sajaan jaha rahe'.
Karan Diwan sings the first line of the song and he is almost out of breath
by the time he reaches 'yun hi jawa rahe' and then Lata so effortlessly
takes off from right where he left and soars higher. But why only me. Even
public loves it. (Aati kya khandala?)

Cheers

Anant

(Who says 'Pyaar ka aalam' in the Rafi song 'Phir aane laga yaad muze, pyaar
ka aalam' ?)

Anand Tiwari

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In article <C_SH1.1080$VW6.5...@news.magma.ca>, "Anant says...

>
>I just finished reading an interview with one of my most favorite directors
>'Vijay Anand' on www.rediff.com. While reading that, I remembered one of the
>film he made in early 70's called 'Chor Chor'.

Shatrughan Sinha has also sung in films. I think his voice was used in 'Naram
garam' and another film ( i forget the name). Govinda sang a very forgettable
number 'meri pant bhi....' in the 1994 release 'Dulaara'. Now Sanjay Dutt is
coming up with an (eve) teasing song 'Aey Shivani....' (BTW he pronounces and
sings the word 'Shivani' in thw worst possible manner). It shall be used
in the upcoming film 'Khubsoorat'. Not to be left behind, the stuttering,
stammering, Shah Rukh Khan has also recorded a song. However the distinction
of having the worst singing voice would definetely go to Sridevi (may be
SRK will pip her to the post).

Anand

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Hemlata N Khemani

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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On 4 Sep 1998, Ravi Krishna wrote:

> surprise. IMO he overshadowed Dharam though Dharam was also OK. The song is
> "kaisei.n jeetai.n hai.n bala, hamse seekho.n ye ada". Shotgun recites some
^^^^^^^
looks like we are not yet done with the "balaa" and "bhalaa" discussions,
are we, Guri, Afzal? ;-))

Hema.

> shayari in his typical bihari style. It is the same film with the famous KK song
> "gaadi bula raheen hai.n".


>
> > Not to be left behind, the stuttering,
> >stammering, Shah Rukh Khan has also recorded a song. However the distinction
> >of having the worst singing voice would definetely go to Sridevi (may be
> >SRK will pip her to the post).
>

> :-)
>
> I am cross posting this to ramli, because I see some references to one and only
> Shah Rukh Khan. I am sure it will be well appreciated there.
>
> RK-
>
>


Hemlata N Khemani

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On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Anant Rege wrote:

> check one of the recent ATMJH), Nutan ('Ai mere husafar' in Chhabili) were
> pretty decent singers. So I don't know why MDs did not try them more than
> these couple of very rare occasions. Of course overdose of it is also bad.
> (Amitabh?) That is why I enjoy couple of incidents like these where the

Both Nutan and Shobha Khote were pretty tolerable in that movie I saw some
time back, I don't remember the name but both ladies were singing in a
competition in college, I think it was a Dev Anand movie. And I did think
at that time that they should sing sometimes when the song requires
minimal effort on their part. Oh well, then I thought of Nutan humming
(i.e Asha NOT doing so) in a song like "oh nigah-e-mastaanaa) and I
quietly withdrew my thoughts. ;-)) Think of a "woh subah kabhi to aayegi"
with Mala Sinha replacing Asha or someone else replacing Asha in "mere
jeevan men aaya hai kaun", eeeee... scary thought!! :-))

> (Who says 'Pyaar ka aalam' in the Rafi song 'Phir aane laga yaad muze, pyaar
> ka aalam' ?)

Isn't it Suman? Or maybe Usha Khanna.

Hema.


Malini

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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96L.98090...@unixs5.cis.pitt.edu>,
Hemlata says...

>
>On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Anant Rege wrote:
>
>> check one of the recent ATMJH), Nutan ('Ai mere husafar' in Chhabili) were
>> pretty decent singers. So I don't know why MDs did not try them more than
>> these couple of very rare occasions. Of course overdose of it is also bad.
>> (Amitabh?) That is why I enjoy couple of incidents like these where the
>
>Both Nutan and Shobha Khote were pretty tolerable in that movie I saw some
>time back, I don't remember the name but both ladies were singing in a
>competition in college, I think it was a Dev Anand movie. And I did think

You're talking about 'paying guest' here, I suppose.

>at that time that they should sing sometimes when the song requires
>minimal effort on their part. Oh well, then I thought of Nutan humming
>(i.e Asha NOT doing so) in a song like "oh nigah-e-mastaanaa) and I
>quietly withdrew my thoughts. ;-)) Think of a "woh subah kabhi to aayegi"
>with Mala Sinha replacing Asha or someone else replacing Asha in "mere
>jeevan men aaya hai kaun", eeeee... scary thought!! :-))

Some old actresses like Nutan, Madhubala, Meena Kumari and Vyjayantimala had
good voices and in some movies they have sung a piece here and there.
-Vyjayantimala has done quite a bit of humming in the movie 'bahaar'
-Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene where she's
giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite hilarious).
-Manmohan Krishna has sung 'ye zindagi hai yo yo' in 'Bewafaa' and also 'murli
waale gopal..' in 'Angulimaal'. Some people beg to differ on the latter. geet
kosh also does not give the male singer in this song.
-If someone remembers the scene in 'Unche Log' where 'haai re tere chanchal
nainwaa' is being played on the radio in the voice of Lata and Firoz Khan is
fondly listening to the song and joins Lata at the end of each of the three
stanzas. Of course the song recording itself does not have Firoz's voice in it.

>> (Who says 'Pyaar ka aalam' in the Rafi song 'Phir aane laga yaad muze, pyaar
>> ka aalam' ?)
>
>Isn't it Suman? Or maybe Usha Khanna.
>

The singer is Usha Khanna.

>Hema.
>

Malini

vishkr...@hotmail.com

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Sep 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/6/98
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In article <6sstbo$l...@pdrn.zippo.com>,

malini...@intel.com (Malini) wrote:
> Some old actresses like Nutan, Madhubala, Meena Kumari and Vyjayantimala had
> good voices and in some movies they have sung a piece here and there.
> -Vyjayantimala has done quite a bit of humming in the movie 'bahaar'
> -Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene where
she's
> giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite hilarious).

One could fill a couple of 90 minute cassettes with Meena Kumari's
film songs of the '40s. You certainly didn't mean for the
MISS MARY lines to be the prime example.

Vyjayanthi has sung at Guruvayur. Wonder if that represents a
certification. Also available is one full song from Tapan Sinha's
HAATEY BAAZAAREY (1968). Music is also most likely by Tapan Sinha.

The subject of singer/actors+actresses needs to be bounded
somehow, e.g. a line needs to be drawn around the 1942
timeframe when the deluge of non-acting singers hit the
industry. If not, then just about every singer from the '30s
will have to be included. Even Baby Rani (later Nargis) has
a few, I am sure, at least in her mother's productions.

Past 1942, some allowances and restrictions may need to
be instituted. The category I am trying to zero in on is
post-1942 personalities who were/are either (primarily actors/
actresses with some songs to their credit) OR (famous for
some movie related function other than acting or singing, but
have a non-zero song count). Nalini Jaywant should certainly
be on that list. From the '80s, we have Shabana (ANJUMAN) and
Rekha (EK NAYAA RISHTAA). A step closer to completeness would
be achieved by the inclusion of Anil Biswas and SN Tripathi and
such. There must be several more instances.

Shanta Apte, Snehaprabha Pradhan, Hansa Wadkar, Kanan Devi,
Narendranath (PahaaDi) Sanyal etc are a class by themselves.
Perhaps also to be included are Ashok Kumar, Kishore Sahu,
Motilal et al. This is the singer/actor subgroup that spanned
the pre-1942 and post-1942 periods.

Suraiyya, Saigal, Noorjehan, Khurshid, etc also need special
consideration. Kishore K becomes part of this group too,
at least for the duration of his "acting" years. So does
Sulakshana Pandit. These are personalities with 2 equally
profiled professions.

Reversing the search condition, we might consider looking for
well known singers with the rare screen appearance. The Mangeshkars
might qualify, and if we really stretch it, so might Rafi.
And Geeta Dutt. Here we run into some trouble with Mukesh and
Talat, people who were known for their screen presence.

As always, the discussion is incomplete without at least as
much analysis of the non-Hindi music/acting world. There is
much to be had from that space where personalities like MS and
Bhanumathi once stood tall. Other names to ponder - Biswajeet
(Chatterjee??), Uttam Kumar, others?

cheers
vish

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Afzal A. Khan (il_...@yahoo.com) wrote:

: but can we not include P. Bhanumathi in this list ?
: She was a multifaceted genius in her own right.
: She could act, dance, sing and write beautiful lyrics.
: I am sure she has composed music too, though I cannot

This is one category, probably the only, where she can't be included.
Though she is a well-known AND successful writer (of short stories,
parodies etc.) in Telugu, she hasnot penned lyrics -to the best of
my knowledge- for any film! Otherwise you are correct about her
multifaceted skills. Nearly two years ago, there was a long thread
on MD-Singers in RMIM. That time I posted a two part followup (never
came to post the 3rd part! Yes, still some names are missing!!)
on Singer-MDs from south, covering all four major languages. I am
told that Part-1 is available thru RMIM automailer. I amn't able to
locate the part-2 neither in my own folders nor in Dejanews archives.
Perhaps I should rewrite.

Apropos, Bhanumathi's skills as MD -no doubt that the great lady is
extremely well verses in musical matters, and capable of composing-
are quite controversial, where its often accused that she ran away
with the credit of composing some well-known tunes from her own
productions: "chintaamaNi" (1956, a.k.a bilwamangaL's story),
"baaTasaari" (1960, based on Sarat's _baDaa deedee_).

Changing topics ....

In article <6stf74$rms$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, vishkr...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > -Vyjayantimala has done quite a bit of humming in the movie 'bahaar'

Is that right? I can't recall any such in (original) Tamil/Telugu version
from 1954.

> > -Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene
> > where she's giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite
> > hilarious).

Then add Saavitri's name in original Telugu version: missamma (1955), giving
lessons to A. Nageswara Rao. Well, even NTR's name can be added for singing
two lines (rather words) in his own production: tallaa peLLaamaa (1969).
That song - telugu jaati manadi ...- itself was/is a big hit, pleading for
unity, when the socalled "jai Andhra" movement was at its helm, demanding
a separate state comprising of the coastal districts.

> The subject of singer/actors+actresses needs to be bounded
> somehow, e.g. a line needs to be drawn around the 1942

<rest deleted>

ditto in case of Telugu too, but the line needs to be drawn much
later, around 1948!! I guess the same 'd be valid in case of Tamil too.

> Past 1942, some allowances and restrictions may need to
> be instituted. The category I am trying to zero in on is

<snip>
Then the number would be very small in case of Telugu. The well-known
singing actresses/actors of yester years who made occasional appearances
in post-1948 films continued to sing. Examples are: Tanguturi Suryakumari
(between 1949 and '53, before she left for USA, and later settling in
London), P. Santa Kumari (some great numbers in mega-hit: Sree vEnkaTESwara
maahaatmyam, *ing NTR&Saavitri, 1960), Bhanumati (till today!!, made her
debut in '39), S. Varalakshmi (debut in '39, needed no play back till mid-60s,
later never got an oppurtunity to sing!), K. Raghuraamayya ('33 to late 60s),
P. Suribabu, Chittoor V. Naagayya etc. etc. Actresses like C. KrishnavENi,
P. kannaamba, RishyEndramaNi, G. Varalakshmi, Jayamma (more popular in
kannaDa!) who were very popular singers, both on stage and screen, never
sang in post-'48 period.

Here a long list of stalwarts from drama/stage can be included who were
the first film stars in Telugu. Names like: Staanam Narasimha Rao,
Addanki Sreerama Murthy, YaDavalli Surya NarayaNa, PulipaaTi,
Kaanchanamaala (arguably the most glamourous star ever to appear
on Telugu scress, whose career ended under tragic/dubious circumstances
in 1942), etc. etc. Similarly such a long -perhaps even a longer!- list
can be compiled of Tamil filmstars; starting with MKT, NSK, .......

> Reversing the search condition, we might consider looking for
> well known singers with the rare screen appearance. The Mangeshkars
> might qualify, and if we really stretch it, so might Rafi.
> And Geeta Dutt. Here we run into some trouble with Mukesh and
> Talat, people who were known for their screen presence.

By same criterion, GhanTasaala too!

Regards,
Sreenivas

Malini

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In article <6stf74$rms$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, vishkr...@hotmail.com says...

>
>In article <6sstbo$l...@pdrn.zippo.com>,
> malini...@intel.com (Malini) wrote:
>> Some old actresses like Nutan, Madhubala, Meena Kumari and Vyjayantimala had
>> good voices and in some movies they have sung a piece here and there.
>> -Vyjayantimala has done quite a bit of humming in the movie 'bahaar'
>> -Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene where
>she's
>> giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite hilarious).
>
>One could fill a couple of 90 minute cassettes with Meena Kumari's
>film songs of the '40s. You certainly didn't mean for the
>MISS MARY lines to be the prime example.

I was not aware of Meena Kumari's film songs. I knew of the poetries that she
wrote and sang later in her life. Think one of them goes - 'chand tanhaa hai
aasmaan tanhaa'. After reading your message, I looked up Geet Kosh and found
only three movies with Meena Kumari songs - 'Duniya ek sarai' - 1947, 'Piya ghar
aja' - 1947, and 'BichaDe balam' - 1948 with about 20 songs in all. I'd think
that would just about fill one 90-min cassette. Are you aware of some other
movies/songs by Meena Kumari. I'd be very interested in knowing.


>
>Vyjayanthi has sung at Guruvayur. Wonder if that represents a
>certification. Also available is one full song from Tapan Sinha's
>HAATEY BAAZAAREY (1968). Music is also most likely by Tapan Sinha.
>

>The subject of singer/actors+actresses needs to be bounded
>somehow, e.g. a line needs to be drawn around the 1942

>timeframe when the deluge of non-acting singers hit the
>industry. If not, then just about every singer from the '30s
>will have to be included. Even Baby Rani (later Nargis) has
>a few, I am sure, at least in her mother's productions.
>

>Past 1942, some allowances and restrictions may need to
>be instituted. The category I am trying to zero in on is

>post-1942 personalities who were/are either (primarily actors/
>actresses with some songs to their credit) OR (famous for
>some movie related function other than acting or singing, but
>have a non-zero song count). Nalini Jaywant should certainly
>be on that list. From the '80s, we have Shabana (ANJUMAN) and
>Rekha (EK NAYAA RISHTAA). A step closer to completeness would

Rekha has also sung in 'khoobsoorat' - qaayadaa, qaayadaa and 'agar tum na hote'
- a duet with Shailendra Singh.

Malini


>be achieved by the inclusion of Anil Biswas and SN Tripathi and
>such. There must be several more instances.
>
>Shanta Apte, Snehaprabha Pradhan, Hansa Wadkar, Kanan Devi,
>Narendranath (PahaaDi) Sanyal etc are a class by themselves.
>Perhaps also to be included are Ashok Kumar, Kishore Sahu,
>Motilal et al. This is the singer/actor subgroup that spanned
>the pre-1942 and post-1942 periods.
>
>Suraiyya, Saigal, Noorjehan, Khurshid, etc also need special
>consideration. Kishore K becomes part of this group too,
>at least for the duration of his "acting" years. So does
>Sulakshana Pandit. These are personalities with 2 equally
>profiled professions.
>

>Reversing the search condition, we might consider looking for
>well known singers with the rare screen appearance. The Mangeshkars
>might qualify, and if we really stretch it, so might Rafi.
>And Geeta Dutt. Here we run into some trouble with Mukesh and
>Talat, people who were known for their screen presence.
>

>As always, the discussion is incomplete without at least as
>much analysis of the non-Hindi music/acting world. There is
>much to be had from that space where personalities like MS and
>Bhanumathi once stood tall. Other names to ponder - Biswajeet
>(Chatterjee??), Uttam Kumar, others?
>
>cheers
>vish
>

Snehal B. Oza

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In <6stf74$rms$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com> vishkr...@hotmail.com writes:

>As always, the discussion is incomplete without at least as
>much analysis of the non-Hindi music/acting world. There is
>much to be had from that space where personalities like MS and
>Bhanumathi once stood tall. Other names to ponder - Biswajeet
>(Chatterjee??), Uttam Kumar, others?

From Gujarati films, I remember one example Naresh Kanodia of MD pair Mahesh-
Naresh. IIRC Naresh (one of them) was prominent actor too. Both borthers have
sung. In fact, Mahesh was famous for his skill to sing in feminie voice also --
a la-Kishor Kumar style fo Half Ticket. Actually much more than that; as his
effort was almost perfect and could do real duet session singly. Interestingly
one more Gujarati singer and quite famous at that too, exhibited such skill
in his early period (1960s). I am referring to Purushottam Upadhyay who is
legend in Gjarati Sugam Sngeet arena. He sung a male-female duet with Mukesh
in one Gujarati film. His effort was so impressive Mukesh hugged him after the
recording admiring his junior.

I would imagine Harsukh Kikani doing some rounds of recording in late 40s.

Snehal

mand...@emirates.net.ae

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Malini wrote:

> -If someone remembers the scene in 'Unche Log' where 'haai re tere chanchal
> nainwaa' is being played on the radio in the voice of Lata and Firoz Khan is
> fondly listening to the song and joins Lata at the end of each of the three
> stanzas. Of course the song recording itself does not have Firoz's voice in
it.

Hi Malini,

I think it is Mahendra Kapoor who joins at the end of the stanzas.

:Dr.Mandar

hnk...@pitt.edu

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On 5 Sep 1998, Malini wrote:

> -Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene where she's
> giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite hilarious).

Meena Kumari has a pretty good voice for her own poetry. Even if her
nazms or gazals were sung by the highest-rated singer, they won't sound as
good as they sound in her voice.

> -Manmohan Krishna has sung 'ye zindagi hai yo yo' in 'Bewafaa' and also 'murli
> waale gopal..' in 'Angulimaal'. Some people beg to differ on the latter. geet

I beg to differ on the former, however.:) "ye zindagi hai yo yo" is from
"Aaraam".

Hema.


hnk...@pitt.edu

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On Sun, 6 Sep 1998 vishkr...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Reversing the search condition, we might consider looking for
> well known singers with the rare screen appearance. The Mangeshkars
> might qualify, and if we really stretch it, so might Rafi.
> And Geeta Dutt. Here we run into some trouble with Mukesh and
> Talat, people who were known for their screen presence.

How about Anuradha Devi? I wonder what she is known for more - her
singing or her screen presence. ;-))

Hema.


Malini

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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96L.98090...@puffer.labs.cis.pitt.edu>,
<hnk...@pitt.edu says...
My mistake. I realized this just after posting it and hoped that some regular
reader of RMIM like you would point it out. I always get confused about this,
because Raj Kapoor keeps playing with yo-yo in Bewafaa and this song talks about
yo-yo and both the movies are of around the same time. Thanks for the
correction. Does it mean you agree about the latter ?

-Malini

>Hema.
>

Ambrish

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Sreeni had said -

"S. Varalakshmi (debut in '39, needed no play back till mid-60s,
later never got an oppurtunity to sing!)"

A minor correction - S.Varalakshmi did sing in the Kamala Haasan starrer
of the early 90's, "GuNaa", in Tamizh. She acted as Kamal's mother in
the movie and sang the song "Unnai naan ariven". The film also has
another version of this song, featuring the voices of S.Janaki, Ustaad
Sultan Khan, and chorus singers. The MD was ILaiyaraaja.

Also, if I remember correctly, Anjali Devi was another "singing-actress"
of the 40s and 50s. Correct me if I am wrong.

Talking of Kamala Haasan, he too has sung a few songs in Tamizh films.
Another "singer-actor" is the versatile S.P.Balasubramanyam. His singing
career needs no elaboration. He has performed well as an actor (imho) in
some movies too.

Ambrish

sre...@ktp.uni-paderborn.de

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Sep 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/8/98
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Ambrish (samb...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: Talking of MD-Poets, shouldn't we be mentioning the famous
: saint-poet-composer(s) too?

Theoretically yes! :-) But, if the MD improvizes; chooses a different
raaga instead of the -socalled- "defined" one, then he 'd get the
credit ?! Just to give one example I heard tyaagayya's composition:
_saamaja-vara-gamanaa_ not only in hindOLam.

: Again, have these composers been given due acknowledgement by the
: Producer/Director/MD of the film?

I don't know about other languages. If V.A.K. Ranga Rao -needs no
introduction, I believe- visualises an album for HMV, he is very
particular about details such as above.

Here I have a story to narrate ...

most of the south Indian film-goers 'd have seen Girish Karnad starrer:
_aanandabhairavi_ (1983); simultaneously made in Telugu and Kannada (and
dubbed into Tamil ?, also the MD for kannaDa version is different, I guess).
This film contained two songs; koluvaitivaa rangasaayi & brahmaanjali,
from the repertoire of (Kuchipudi maestro) Vempati china satyam's troupe.
The film's MD: late Ramesh Naidu, who used the original tunes of the afore
mentioned troupe, took the extra care, called V.A.K. Rangarao (for he wasn't
sure if the Prod/Director would do that!), enquired about the names of
composers, and saw that Dr. B. Rajanikanta Rao and K. Suryaprakasa Rao's
names were mentioned on L.P jacket, and in film titles. I wonder howmany MDs
are like that!

: Also, Dr. M. Balamuralikrishna has composed music for some films. Has he
: written the lyrics to some of his songs too? How about Late Dr. S.
: Balachander (eminent veena artiste)? He composed music for some films.
: Did he write lyrics too? In the same vein, how about Kunnakudi
: Vaidyanathan (eminent Carnatic violin artiste)? Has he penned any songs
: for which he composed the music? Could South Indian film/music

Its true that MBK composed music for films, and also wrote some lyrics. But
I don't think that any of his compositions were used in films, under his MD.
I amnot aware of the song-writing skills of veeNa Balachandar and Kunnaikudi.

Ambrish (samb...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: A minor correction - S.Varalakshmi did sing in the Kamala Haasan starrer


: of the early 90's, "GuNaa", in Tamizh. She acted as Kamal's mother in

Thanks for the correction! Having not seen any post-1987 Indian film release
I amnot aware of this film. Amazing that SV is still acting 51 years after her
debut.

: Also, if I remember correctly, Anjali Devi was another "singing-actress"


: of the 40s and 50s. Correct me if I am wrong.

No, she didn't have a singing voice. She is probably the first lead actress
in Telugu who needed play-back, right from the first day; i.e. her debut
in _gollabhaama_ 1947.

Regards,
Sreenivas

Hemlata N. Khemani

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On 7 Sep 1998, Malini wrote:

> >>-Manmohan Krishna has sung 'ye zindagi hai yo yo' in 'Bewafaa' and also 'murli
> >> waale gopal..' in 'Angulimaal'. Some people beg to differ on the latter. geet
> >
> >I beg to differ on the former, however.:) "ye zindagi hai yo yo" is from
> >"Aaraam".
> >
> My mistake. I realized this just after posting it and hoped that some regular
> reader of RMIM like you would point it out. I always get confused about this,
> because Raj Kapoor keeps playing with yo-yo in Bewafaa and this song talks about
> yo-yo and both the movies are of around the same time. Thanks for the
> correction. Does it mean you agree about the latter ?

ha ha ha *grin*, you trapped me there.:-))) No my comment was only about
the former and had no implications on the latter, for the unfortunate
truth is that I don't think I have ever heard the latter song! :-)

Hema.


vishkr...@hotmail.com

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In article <6svtuo$1...@pdrn.zippo.com>,

Malini...@intel.com (Malini) wrote:
> I was not aware of Meena Kumari's film songs. I knew of the poetries that she
> wrote and sang later in her life. Think one of them goes - 'chand tanhaa hai
> aasmaan tanhaa'.

Yes, and there are a few more on the I WRITE I RECITE CD/cassette
release (possibly also included in the Khaiyyaam non-film 4-pack).

>After reading your message, I looked up Geet Kosh and found
> only three movies with Meena Kumari songs - 'Duniya ek sarai' - 1947, 'Piya
ghar
> aja' - 1947, and 'BichaDe balam' - 1948 with about 20 songs in all. I'd think
> that would just about fill one 90-min cassette. Are you aware of some other
> movies/songs by Meena Kumari. I'd be very interested in knowing.

Thanks for the research. I should have looked it up myself before
making statements re. song counts. An informal statement made by
a song collector seemed to suggest a count of 35-40. Even THAT
is not enough to fill up two 90 minute cassettes though.

Meena Kumari's earlier movies were from the Mehboob camp (National/
Sagar Studios), thanks to Ali Bux's salesmanship. Baby Meena is
supposed to have a few songs in LEATHERFACE, her first film. This
was in the late '30s. I think she has one or two songs in BAHEN
(very early '40s).

cheers
vish

Ashok

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In article <6t3pm4$u24$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, sre...@ktp.uni-paderborn.de says...
>

>Its true that MBK composed music for films, and also wrote some lyrics. But
>I don't think that any of his compositions were used in films, under his MD.
>

>Regards,
>Sreenivas


The *swan song* of 'Hamsa Geethe', in Bhairavi, was written, composed and
sung by Balamuralikrishna:

tava padaambhoja bhaktim dehi mem, tripurabhairavi ambaa


Ashok


il_...@yahoo.com

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In article <6sstbo$l...@pdrn.zippo.com>,
malini...@intel.com (Malini) wrote:
> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96L.98090...@unixs5.cis.pitt.edu>,
> Hemlata says...
> >
> >On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Anant Rege wrote:
>
> Some old actresses like Nutan, Madhubala, Meena Kumari and Vyjayantimala had
> good voices and in some movies they have sung a piece here and there.
> -Vyjayantimala has done quite a bit of humming in the movie 'bahaar'

She has also uttered the words "Ja, ja" and "Kyon sataate ho,
hoga, hoga, hoga" in the "Sargam" song "Mere man ki ganga aur
tere man ki jamuna". Her laughter can also be heard in one
"Amrapali" song.


> -Meena Kumari has sung two lines in the movie 'Miss Mary' (the scene where
she's
> giving singing lessons to Kishore Kumar. The scene is quite hilarious).

> -Manmohan Krishna has sung 'ye zindagi hai yo yo' in 'Bewafaa' and also 'murli
> waale gopal..' in 'Angulimaal'.

I think somebody did point out that the "yo yo" song is from
"Aaram" and not "Bewafaa". Besides, he has also sung a couple
of lines in the film "Railway Platform", when he espies Nalini
Jayawant taking a bath in the distance.. "Gori asnaan kare".
He sang these lines rather well too (the song snippet is in
Raag Bhairavi).

Afzal

>
> Malini

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