Abhi To Main Jawan Hun (#387)
hri...@slb.com
#387
Song: Bansuriya phir se bajaao kaanha
Bansuriya phir se bajaao
Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao radha
Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao
Film: Taj (1956)
Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar
Music: Hemant Kumar
Lyrics: Rajinder Krishan
*ing: Pradeep Kumar, Vyjayantimala
The teasing, "chhed-chhaad" kind of songs always come with a
tangible charm ; a hearty playfulness that mostly functions
as a veneer over something deeper underneath. Nothing new in it,
of course... most of the Radha-Krishna songs like this one are
well-decked with this sentiment; and they're quite an enduring
theme in Hindi movie songs. You could host an RJGK on songs
that use this imagery :-)
In addition to this, what makes this refreshing Hemantda tune
amusing to listen to, is the slightly unusual reversal of
direction. Normally the fairer sex is at the receiving end of the
proceedings, going into serious withdrawal, like "itna na sataa ke
koii jaane", "chhup chhup chhalia re mujhe na bulaa", chhod do
aanchal zamaana kya kahegaa", etc.. This one goes the other way.
Anyways, it's a nice, ebullient tune. Could have used better faces
for it to go on, though.
..Hrishi
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Ashok
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>#387
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> Song: Bansuriya phir se bajaao kaanha
> Bansuriya phir se bajaao
> Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao radha
> Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao
>
> Film: Taj (1956)
> Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar
> Music: Hemant Kumar
> Lyrics: Rajinder Krishan
> *ing: Pradeep Kumar, Vyjayantimala
>
According to title credits, the music directors of 'Taj' are
Hemant Kumar and Ravi. I don't know if credit by song is
available.
Ashok
ani...@my-dejanews.com
Wasn't Ravi Hemantda's assistant for quite a few films? In fact, I have
always had a doubt that 'kahan le chale ho..' from 'durgesh nandini' was
composed by Ravi. The soft, sweet romantic melody is very much like many
others Ravi has composed. Whereas, the Radha/Krishna - holi song combo and the
boat song(chandan ki naaiya pe) sound very much like Hemantda's compositions.
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Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
ar...@cyberus.ca
ani...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <6vdqq7$2...@news3.newsguy.com>,
> ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
> > In article <6vdlku$9j3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, hri...@slb.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >#387
> > >
> > > Song: Bansuriya phir se bajaao kaanha
> > > Bansuriya phir se bajaao
> > > Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao radha
> > > Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao
> > >
> > > Film: Taj (1956)
> > > Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar
> > > Music: Hemant Kumar
> > > Lyrics: Rajinder Krishan
> > > *ing: Pradeep Kumar, Vyjayantimala
> > >
> > >..Hrishi
> >
> > According to title credits, the music directors of 'Taj' are
> > Hemant Kumar and Ravi. I don't know if credit by song is
> > available.
> >
> > Ashok
> >
> >
>
> Wasn't Ravi Hemantda's assistant for quite a few films? In fact, I have
> always had a doubt that 'kahan le chale ho..' from 'durgesh nandini' was
> composed by Ravi. The soft, sweet romantic melody is very much like many
> others Ravi has composed. Whereas, the Radha/Krishna - holi song combo and the
> boat song(chandan ki naaiya pe) sound very much like Hemantda's compositions.
>
Yes. Ravi was Hemant Kumar's assistant. And that hangover shows in some of
his early compositions. But I am surprised that you thought 'kaha le chale
ho' from 'Durgesh Nandini' could be a Ravi composition BECAUSE it is a
soft,sweet, melodious song. It is an insult to HK because IMO that is what
Hemant Kumar did all his career. Gave us beautiful but simple melodious tunes
one after another. Unfortunately as a MD, he was never as popular as SJ, OPN
or Naushad. Nor the experts take his name in the same breath as Anil Biswas,
Roshan, CR, SDB, Salil, Jaidev and MM. Connoisseurs may talk fondly about
Shamsunder, Sajjad, Hansraj Behl etc.. I have never seen his name near the
top of anybody's list. Yet in his own unassuming way, HK gave us simple
melodious tunes right since 'Anandmath'. I am using these words 'simple and
melodious' again and again because that is the only way I can describe his
tunes. He wouldn't compose something complex like say a Salil would, nor when
you think about great classical songs or gazals or quawali's from the films,
you immediately think about any of his songs. So how do you classify his
songs? IMO they are like a hot cup of chocolate (make it a peg of scotch if
you prefer) during a cold rainy night. Just creating a warm, soothing feeling
inside you, which you absolutely and thoroughly enjoy at the moment but
forget about it next morning.
I owe an public apology to HK. Many years ago while listening radio Cylon, a
heard this beautiful song, 'Ye khamoshiyan ye sama, Ye taron bhara aasaman'
first time. I could not follow the name of the film and started wondering who
could be the composer of the song. I thought about Anil,CR,Roshan,MM and some
others. I also thought, it could be some lesser known MD like Jamal Sen,
Shailesh etc. When I found out months later that the song was from the film
'Samrat' and composer was HK, I was ashamed of myself. Why didn't I consider
him? What did he do wrong? Forget about heavyweights like Nagin or Sahib,
biwi, gulam, didn't he gave us so many gems to remember for? If I was
writing Latanjali and had to choose a soft,melodious, romantic song, I could
choose one from 'Man dole mera tan dole, Mera dil ye pukare aaja, Jadoogar
saiyyan chhodo mori baiya' (Nagin), 'So gaya sara jamana' (Miss Mary), 'Mere
taqadeer ke malik' (Shart), 'Chhup gaya koi re, Na jane ye chanda'
(Champakali), 'Chandse puchho sitaron se puchho'(Daku ki ladki), 'Pyasi hirni
ban ban, sara mora kajara, Man mora nache' (Do dil), 'Sapane suhane ladakpan
ke' (Bees saal baad), 'O bekarar dil' (Kohra), 'Bas ek chupsi lagi hai'
(Sannata), 'Kuch dil ne kaha, Dheere dheere machal' (Anupama), 'Ang ang me
umang' (Bahu) and so on.
Well. As far as I am concern, 'Kaha le chale ho, bata do musafir' is a
signature HK composition.
Regards
Anant
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ar...@cyberus.ca wrote:
> In article <6vgcqb$bq8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> ani...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> > > According to title credits, the music directors of 'Taj' are
> > > Hemant Kumar and Ravi. I don't know if credit by song is
> > > available.
> > >
> > > Ashok
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Wasn't Ravi Hemantda's assistant for quite a few films? In fact, I have
> > always had a doubt that 'kahan le chale ho..' from 'durgesh nandini' was
> > composed by Ravi. The soft, sweet romantic melody is very much like many
> > others Ravi has composed. Whereas, the Radha/Krishna - holi song combo and
the
> > boat song(chandan ki naaiya pe) sound very much like Hemantda's
compositions.
> >
>
> Yes. Ravi was Hemant Kumar's assistant. And that hangover shows in some of
> his early compositions. But I am surprised that you thought 'kaha le chale
> ho' from 'Durgesh Nandini' could be a Ravi composition BECAUSE it is a
> soft,sweet, melodious song. It is an insult to HK because IMO that is what
> Hemant Kumar did all his career.
>
> signature HK composition.
> Anant
I couldn't agree more. Not only in RMIM but in the hindi film
industry too, I feel Hemant Kumar has not received the attention
and recognition that he so richly deserved. It is widely believed
and others should be able to bear it out that his musical contri-
bution to the Bengali film industry is of a still higher order,
and not merely quantity-wise. Of course, as a singer, his range
was limited. But songs sung by him are in fact another feather
in his cap. Is there any other male composer who can be credited
with singing so many mellifluous songs in HFM ? (Perhaps Sudhir
Phadke can be compared with him insofar as Marathi film music is
concerned, but I have no personal knowledge.)
"KahaaN le chale ho.." is undoubtedly a signature Hemant
composition. Ravi no doubt absorbed a great deal of HK's influ-
ence but I still feel that most of Ravi's compositions can be
identified separately. Very often, his orchestral arrangement
includes the sound of garba-like sticks which is quite unmistak-
able and rather characteristic of Ravi's music. Offhand, I
cannot recall any Ravi song which can easily be mistaken for
an HK composition.
Talking of the film "Taj", unfortunately I have not seen
the movie. There are instances of other movies where Ravi's
name is included in the credit titles as an Assistant to HK. But
to have both these names used in the titles as co-MDs seems
surprising. HK was much the senior of the two and, in normal
circumstances, the question of his sharing the music credits
with somebody who had been his assistant should not have
arisen. Secondly, "Taj" is a 1956 movie. We all remember that
Ravi got his break as an independent MD in this year itself, the
movie being "Vachan". But if, as Ashok has stated, the two names
are shown as co-MDs, so be it.
Afzal
Arup Ray
: In article <6vgcqb$bq8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
: ani...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
: > ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
: > > In article <6vdlku$9j3$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, hri...@slb.com says...
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >#387
: > > >
: > > > Song: Bansuriya phir se bajaao kaanha
: > > > Bansuriya phir se bajaao
: > > > Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao radha
: > > > Jaa jaa na hum ko sataao
: > > >
: > > > Film: Taj (1956)
: > > > Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar
: > > > Music: Hemant Kumar
: > > > Lyrics: Rajinder Krishan
: > > > *ing: Pradeep Kumar, Vyjayantimala
: > > >
: > > >..Hrishi
: > > According to title credits, the music directors of 'Taj' are
: > > Hemant Kumar and Ravi. I don't know if credit by song is
: > > available.
: > >
: > > Ashok
: > >
: > >
: >
: > Wasn't Ravi Hemantda's assistant for quite a few films? In fact, I have
: > always had a doubt that 'kahan le chale ho..' from 'durgesh nandini' was
: > composed by Ravi. The soft, sweet romantic melody is very much like many
: > others Ravi has composed. Whereas, the Radha/Krishna - holi song combo and the
: > boat song(chandan ki naaiya pe) sound very much like Hemantda's compositions.
Well, I can recall an interview with HK on Doordarshan Calcutta during the
mid eighties where the interviewer asked him about how the process of
composition worked for him. After addressing the issues like situation,
station in life of the roles he went on to sing a composition and the song
that he sang was "Kahan Le Chale Ho." So I guess that this would be his
composition.
Regards,
-Arup
--
Prithviraj Dasgupta
Please tell me more about this interview. Do you recall who the interviewer was?
If you can remember, pl. let me know which songs he had sung. I believe you are
confusing 'Tum Pukaar lo' with 'Kahaan le chale ho'.
Regards
-Prithviraj