INFO ON JATIN-LALIT
Reshma
singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
Beside R. D. Burman, S. D. Burman, Hemant Kumar and Salil Chowdhary, did
any other bengali music director make it big in bollywood?
Thanks
Reshma
Hemlata N. Khemani
> Can someone tell me if Jatin-Lalit are bengali or not? Is Lalit Sen the
> singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
AFAIK, they are Chitragupta's sons. Chitragupta was an MD too, don't know
if he madeit "big" or not but he has quite a few good compositions to his
credit, that I know of. don't know if they are Bengali or not. As for
J-L, I know that Jatin has sung some of their own songs, don't know about
Lalit.
Hema.
Anant Rege
Reshma wrote in message ...
>Can someone tell me if Jatin-Lalit are bengali or not? Is Lalit Sen the
>singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
No. They are Maharashtrians. Part of musical Pandit family and younger
brothers of Sulkshana Pandit and Vijeyeta Pandit who tried their hands at
acting and were pretty decent singers. I think they are somehow related to
Pt. Jasaraj.
>Beside R. D. Burman, S. D. Burman, Hemant Kumar and Salil Chowdhary, did
>any other bengali music director make it big in bollywood?
Pankaj Mallick, Anil Biswas.
Cheers
Anant
(Nobody is bigger than Anilda)
>
>Thanks
>Reshma
>
Anant Rege
Hemlata N. Khemani wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Reshma wrote:
>
>> singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
>
>if he madeit "big" or not but he has quite a few good compositions to his
>credit, that I know of. don't know if they are Bengali or not. As for
>J-L, I know that Jatin has sung some of their own songs, don't know about
>Lalit.
>
>Hema.
>
Oops. Are we confusing with Anand Milind?
Cheers
Anant
Hemlata N. Khemani
oops, yes! :-)
H.
SKalra902
>
>Reshma wrote in message ...
>>singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
>
>brothers of Sulkshana Pandit and Vijeyeta Pandit who tried their hands at
>acting and were pretty decent singers. I think they are somehow related to
>Pt. Jasaraj.
>
They are the nephews and nieces of Pt. Jasraj. Add the name of Devaki Pandit in
the sisters' list. Besides Jatin Lalit, there is another brother, too, whose
name escapes my memory at this moment.
Dilip Sen and Lalit Sen is a 'Chacha-Bhatija' team, related to the music
Director Jamal Sen of the golden era.
>>Beside R. D. Burman, S. D. Burman, Hemant Kumar and Salil Chowdhary, did
>>any other bengali music director make it big in bollywood?
>
>Pankaj Mallick, Anil Biswas.
>
What about Kishore Kumar!!!!
And at the risk of bricks and bats, Bappi Lahiri.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Afzal A. Khan
>
>>No. They are Maharashtrians. Part of musical Pandit family and younger
>>brothers of Sulkshana Pandit and Vijeyeta Pandit who tried their hands at
>>acting and were pretty decent singers. I think they are somehow related to
>>Pt. Jasaraj.
>
>Their father, Pratap Narain, is Jasraj's brother. Where does the
>Maharashtrian business come from? Jasraj hails from Mewat in Haryana.
"Pandit" is a fairly common surname amongst Maharashtrians, hence
the confusion, I think. Some Pandit families, I understand, hail
from South Kanara (or Mysorean origin) also.
>
>The "Sen" part did throw me into utter confusion for quite a while. I
>had initially assumed the question was about Dilip Sen and Sameer Sen.
>Inspite of the last name, I believe they are from Rajasthan. I am told
>told that one of them is the son of the great Jamal Sen ('Shokhiyan',
>'Daaera') and brother of Shambhu Sen (the talented lyricist and MD of
>'Mrigatrishna'), while the other is Shambhu Sen's son. In other words,
>an uncle-nephew pair.
I faintly recall that, in a TV interview, this music duo confided
that they are actually from a Muslim family, Jamal Sen himself
being a Muslim. The "Sen" adopted by them is not of Bengali
origin, but pertains to Rajasthani tradition, like the names
Chatur Sen and Ugra Sen perhaps. Interestingly, there was a
prolonged thread in RMIC sometime back about Pandit Jasraj
being a Muslim ! These affiliations, in my view, need little
attention from music lovers, who should concentrate on the
musical creativity and merit of the concerned MDs/singers.
>What is the domain over which this statement/slogan is supposed to be
>valid? "Bengali music directors that made it big in B'wood between
>1940 and 1960"?! Otherwise, you will have to deal with RC Boral and
>Khemchand Prakash.
I didn't quite follow this. Was Khemchand Prakash a Bengali ?
>If the measure of making it big in B'wood is the number of Hindi films
>for which the MD composed music, then the greatest Bengali MD in the
>history of Bollywood would probably be Bhappi Lahiri. The Bengali
>chauvinist crowd hopes that the "not obiously Bengali" nature of names
>like Lahiri and Sanu would save them from embarrassment. One shouldn't
>get them get away with it.
I thought Bappi Lahiri was an Assamese. He really made it so
"big" in Bollywood that he truly became a "mota Assamee" !
Afzal
>Ashok
>
Ashok
>
Looking at some of the responses to Reshma's question: I was under the
impression that it was just me that tended to be confused by the various
three-syllabled hyphenated music-director pairs afflicting the film music
sky these days (inspite of the disparity in the number of syllables, I
am tempted to refer to them as so many Rahu-Ketus!). Looks like the
confusion is a bit more widely prevalent than just me.
Can people who follow the current music scene (Ikram, Renu, Neeraj D.
Pankaj, Pavan, .....), write at least a capsule descriptions of each pair
for the benefit of people like me?
>Reshma wrote in message ...
>>Can someone tell me if Jatin-Lalit are bengali or not? Is Lalit Sen the
>>singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
In the first place, are J&L Sens? At least some members of the family
(e.g., their sisters Sulakshana, Vijayeta, and Divya) seem to have taken
on the title of thir father (Pandit Pratap Narain) as the last name.
>No. They are Maharashtrians. Part of musical Pandit family and younger
>brothers of Sulkshana Pandit and Vijeyeta Pandit who tried their hands at
>acting and were pretty decent singers. I think they are somehow related to
>Pt. Jasaraj.
Their father, Pratap Narain, is Jasraj's brother. Where does the
Maharashtrian business come from? Jasraj hails from Mewat in Haryana.
The "Sen" part did throw me into utter confusion for quite a while. I
had initially assumed the question was about Dilip Sen and Sameer Sen.
Inspite of the last name, I believe they are from Rajasthan. I am told
told that one of them is the son of the great Jamal Sen ('Shokhiyan',
'Daaera') and brother of Shambhu Sen (the talented lyricist and MD of
'Mrigatrishna'), while the other is Shambhu Sen's son. In other words,
an uncle-nephew pair.
>>Beside R. D. Burman, S. D. Burman, Hemant Kumar and Salil Chowdhary, did
>>any other bengali music director make it big in bollywood?
>
>Pankaj Mallick, Anil Biswas.
I don't believe the former made it big in Bombay. Another Bengali MD of
the period who did was Jnan Dutt.
>Cheers
>
>Anant
>
>(Nobody is bigger than Anilda)
What is the domain over which this statement/slogan is supposed to be
valid? "Bengali music directors that made it big in B'wood between
1940 and 1960"?! Otherwise, you will have to deal with RC Boral and
Khemchand Prakash.
>>Thanks
>>Reshma
If the measure of making it big in B'wood is the number of Hindi films
for which the MD composed music, then the greatest Bengali MD in the
history of Bollywood would probably be Bhappi Lahiri. The Bengali
chauvinist crowd hopes that the "not obiously Bengali" nature of names
like Lahiri and Sanu would save them from embarrassment. One shouldn't
get them get away with it.
Ashok
arunabha shasanka roy
> >If the measure of making it big in B'wood is the number of Hindi films
> >for which the MD composed music, then the greatest Bengali MD in the
> >history of Bollywood would probably be Bhappi Lahiri. The Bengali
> >chauvinist crowd hopes that the "not obiously Bengali" nature of names
> >like Lahiri and Sanu would save them from embarrassment. One shouldn't
> >get them get away with it.
Come on, Ashok, let's look at the positive side of things :)
> I thought Bappi Lahiri was an Assamese. He really made it so
> "big" in Bollywood that he truly became a "mota Assamee" !
:) If that's true, I guess that exonerates the Bengalis from one "charge"
at least. Whew !
-Arunabha
-an "obviously Bengali" name :)
Satish Subramanian
Ashok (ADhar...@WorldBank.Org) wrote:
> Looking at some of the responses to Reshma's question: I was under
> the impression that it was just me that tended to be confused by the
> various three-syllabled hyphenated music-director pairs afflicting
> the film music sky these days.
> Can people who follow the current music scene (Ikram, Renu, Neeraj
> D. Pankaj, Pavan, .....), write at least a capsule descriptions of
> each pair for the benefit of people like me?
Here are some capsule descriptions taken from G magazine - not sure
who the author was.
JATIN-LALIT:
------------
Debut in 1990 with Yaara Dildaara (after Jatin's team with
Mandhir failed to work in the '80s.) Mega musical trilogy in
1992 - Khiladi, Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikander, and Raju Ban Gaya
Gentleman ensured first brush with fame. Consistent record
with big films (Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa, Dilwale Dulhania Le
Jayenge, Khamoshi and even the misfired Return Of Jewel
Thief, Fareb and Yes Boss.
ANAND-MILIND:
-------------
Made a debut in '84 with Pankuj Parasher's Ab Aayega Mazaa
after a stint as assistant with father Chitragupt. Also did
TV serials, video and short films. Broke through with
Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak, Lal Dupatta Malmal Ka, Dil and
Baaghi. They're prolific, have done over eighty films
between '90 and '94.
DILIP SEN-SAMEER SEN:
---------------------
Made a debut with Jagdeep's Soorma Bhopali ('88). Broke
through with Pam Chopra's Aaina ('93) and later Yeh Dillagi
('94). This uncle-nephew team hail from a family of
musicians who have been in the industry for generations (the
late Jamal Sen was Dilip's father, while the late Shambhu
Sen, Jamal's brother was Sameer's dad).
NADEEM-SHRAVAN:
---------------
Arrived in Hindi films via Bhojpuri cinema with Maine Jeena
Seekh Liya (1981). Did C-grade films for eight years till
Ilaaka (1989). Catapulted to fame after Aashiqui (1990),
after which they had an amazing hit-streak despite a low in
'93-'94. Were going strong after '95 (Raja, Raja Hindustani
et al) till Nadeem was declared the main accused in the
murder of music baron Gulshan Kumar. With Nadeem still in
London and the case subjudice, Shravan is solo recording for
their incomplete films, but not signing new films. The future
is uncertain.
> Ashok
--
satish
Satish Subramanian
hri...@slb.com
>DILIP SEN-SAMEER SEN:
>---------------------
>
> Made a debut with Jagdeep's Soorma Bhopali ('88). Broke
> through with Pam Chopra's Aaina ('93) and later Yeh Dillagi
> ('94). This uncle-nephew team hail from a family of
> musicians who have been in the industry for generations (the
> late Jamal Sen was Dilip's father, while the late Shambhu
> Sen, Jamal's brother was Sameer's dad).
>
Confusion. Shouldn't that make them cousin-cousin team, not an
uncle-nephew one ?
..Hrishi
S44218
Since we are on the question of duos and since it was brought up, who are Lalit
and Shekhar Sen ? Are they related to the classical singer Aneeta Sen ? They
have done lots of musical arrangement and compositions for Anuradha Pauwal,
Nitin Mukesh, Chandan Dass, the Hussain Brothers. Just sort of curious....
Heard that Lalit was a disciple of Mehdi Hassan... Have a couple of cassettes
of his music for Mehdi Hassan and for Shobha Gurtu... Any info would be great.
Yours,
Sandip
Ashok
>
>>JATIN-LALIT:
>
>JL started as Jettu Tapan.One can see their names in some of the RDB's movies as
>arrangers / asst MD etc. During their 'unemployment' days, they even tried their
>luck in south movies but failed. With Yaara Dildara (1991) they were known as
>JL.
>
>Off my hat I don't recollect any movies of them as Jettu Tapan, but probably
>they were the MD for an obscure 1981 movie Roohee, starring Mukesh Khanna as
>hero. I may be wrong though.
>
>RK-
No. 'Roohee' had music by another obscure MD: Manoj Gyan. Anyone know
his music? A few of the films, other than Roohee, are: Bahaar, 'Hum Farishte Nahin'
and 'Anjaam Khuda Jaane'.
Some of the Jeetu-Tapan films are: Oonchi Udaan, Ganga Kinaare, Nasamajh,
Naagin Aur Nagina, and Din Dahade.
Anyone who has seen the films/heard the music, please comment.
Ashok
RBModi
(he actually uses his last name first so as to sound like Pandit Ravi Shankar,
etc.)
Dilip Sen - Samir Sen are the Rajasthani uncle-nephew duo. Sen is derived from
old Rajasthani names which were like titles.
Lalit Sen is not related to the above two. He is a Bengali singer.
- Rakesh
Ambrish
Tamil films MDed by Manoj Gyan. I don't remember the Tamil film names
right now. But I will try and get some more info.
Ambrish
chatterje...@gmail.com
> Can someone tell me if Jatin-Lalit are bengali or not? Is Lalit Sen the
> singer is part of the Jatin-lalit team?
> any other bengali music director make it big in bollywood?
>
> Reshma
jatin pandit and lalit pandit they are coming from bengal.both of them born at kolkata but brought up in mumbai brother of famous actress vigayata pandit and sulxsana pandit as well as they well know pandit jasraj,s elder brother son