Sukhsaagar: karam kii gati nyaarii
Animesh Kumar
song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi. I may be wrong though since I just
read the subject and the list of songs in the thread.
Some words/phrases may be incorrect. Please suggest,
Best regards
Animesh
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\startsong
\stitle{karam kii gati nyaarii}
\singer{Lata Mangeshkar}
\year{}
\film{Non Film, Chala Vahi Des}
\music{Hridayanath Mangeshkar}
\lyrics{Meerabai}
% Contributor + Transliterator = Animesh Kumar
% Series: Sukhsaagar, Date: 17 march 2004
% Remarks: repetitions are omitted to retain poetic structure
\printtitle
#indian
(raam kahi_e govi.nd kahi_e)\-3
karam kii gati nyaarii sa.nto.n
ba.De ba.De nayan diye miragan ko
ban ban phirat ughaarii sa.nto.n
% miragan = deer (mRRig), ughaarii = uncovered
ujjawal varan diinhii bagalan ko
koyal kar diinhii kaarii sa.nto.n
% varan = color (varNa), bagalan = crane (bagulaa)
auran diipan jal nirmal kiinhii
sau.ndar karatii nikhaarii sa.nto.n
% diipan = lamp (diip), sau.ndar = beauty (sau.ndarya)
muurakh ko tum raaj diyat ho
paNDit phirat bhikhaarii sa.nto.n
miiraa ke prabhu giridhar naagun
raajaajii ko kaun bichaarii sa.nto.n
#endindian
\endsong
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"Animesh Kumar" <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message
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> Another bhajan from chala vahi des. An RMIM search revealed that this
> song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi. I may be wrong though since I just
> read the subject and the list of songs in the thread.
>
The Lata-Hridayanath version of this bhajan is based on Hamsadhwani.
Sanjeev
Ajit
> song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi.
Hamsadhwani ?
aanand
rgds
anand.
Animesh Kumar <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message news:<c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>...
UVR
>
> Some words/phrases may be incorrect. Please suggest,
One suggestion:
sa.nto.n --> santo
Two question:
In the final couplet, is it "naagun" or "naagar"?
What does "giridhar naagun" mean?
-UVR.
shalu
> sau.ndar karatii nikhaarii sa.nto.n
>
> % diipan = lamp (diip), sau.ndar = beauty (sau.ndarya)
I think it is
samu.ndar kar diinii khaarii
I also hear the word as "diipan" in first line. But somehow that
doesnt fit there. If the "jal" in first line is water then "diipan"
doesnt make sense. On the other hand if it is burn then the second
line doesnt seem to be related. I would like to believe that the word
is actually not "diipan" and the couplet actually means that there is
some "jal" that is made "nirmal" while "samu.ndar" was made "khaaraa".
shalu
Surjit Singh
> Animesh Kumar <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message news:<c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>...
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>>auran diipan jal nirmal kiinhii
>>sau.ndar karatii nikhaarii sa.nto.n
>>
>>% diipan = lamp (diip), sau.ndar = beauty (sau.ndarya)
>
>
> I think it is
>
> samu.ndar kar diinii khaarii
>
> I also hear the word as "diipan" in first line. But somehow that
No. diipan is island, such as jambudviip.
> doesnt fit there. If the "jal" in first line is water then "diipan"
> doesnt make sense. On the other hand if it is burn then the second
> line doesnt seem to be related. I would like to believe that the word
> is actually not "diipan" and the couplet actually means that there is
> some "jal" that is made "nirmal" while "samu.ndar" was made "khaaraa".
>
> shalu
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shalu
> shalu wrote:
> > Animesh Kumar <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message news:<c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>...
> >
> >>auran diipan jal nirmal kiinhii
> >>sau.ndar karatii nikhaarii sa.nto.n
> >>
> >>% diipan = lamp (diip), sau.ndar = beauty (sau.ndarya)
> >
> >
> > I think it is
> >
> > samu.ndar kar diinii khaarii
> >
> > I also hear the word as "diipan" in first line. But somehow that
>
> No. diipan is island, such as jambudviip.
long standing mystery solved!! thanks a lot Surjit Singh Ji.
Arun Iyengar
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> song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi.
One of her better songs of the album in an otherwise (mostly) disappointing
fare. As a few have already pointed out, the raaga is Hamsadwani, one of the
easier raagas to spot. However my question is what's its (does it have an)
equivalent name in Hindustani?
A
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hansdhwani
- Balaji
Ritu
> "Animesh Kumar" <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message
> news:c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu...
> > Another bhajan from chala vahi des. An RMIM search revealed that this
> > song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi.
>
>
> One of her better songs of the album in an otherwise (mostly) disappointing
> fare.
Are you talking about Chala Vahi Des? If yes, then I agree completely
and am glad to find someone else who thinks the same way!. The album
just does not touch you. It has everything going for it.. yet, it
lacks an undefinable something. In light of Lata's affinity for
bhajans, I would say an opportunity lost.
At the end of the day I have made a strange observation... very few
Lata bhajans make it to my top list of bhajans.
Regards,
Ritu
Arun Iyengar
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> "Arun Iyengar" <arun_iy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Animesh Kumar" <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message
> > news:c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu...
> > > Another bhajan from chala vahi des. An RMIM search revealed that this
> > > song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi.
> >
> >
> > One of her better songs of the album in an otherwise (mostly)
disappointing
> > fare.
>
> Are you talking about Chala Vahi Des? If yes, then I agree completely
> and am glad to find someone else who thinks the same way!. The album
> just does not touch you. It has everything going for it.. yet, it
> lacks an undefinable something.
Not sure what you mean by everything. In Chala Vahi Des and the other Meera
Bhajans, except Meerabai's lyrics, there is nothing else going for these
songs. Hridayanath's style of sharp rises and falls doesn't go well with the
Bhakthi bhaav IMO. Lata struggles throughout especially in the higher notes.
Listeners' attention is diverted to these unwelcome guests rather than the
song itself stealing you of the enjoyment of immersing yourself in the
bhajan. Some of the songs are still good like mhara re giridhar gopal (the
way Lata scales the higher notes is amazing), ud ja re kaaga and saa.nvare
ra.ng raachi apart from the above song.
OTOH, it is difficult for an agnostic to immerse himself/herself in a bhajan
but there are plenty of bhajans that have had that effect on me; Meera
bhajans by MSS for example. But then MSS set the gold standard for Meera
Bhajans and everyone else (Lata included) just try. The bhaav MSS gives is
from a different world altogether.
Lata had one other opportunity to redeem herself with Pt. Ravi Shankar's
tunes in Meera but she let her ego hassles get in the way. But 1979 might
have been too late for that to happen in any case. Vani's renditions were
quite good despite her accent.
> At the end of the day I have made a strange observation... very few
> Lata bhajans make it to my top list of bhajans.
Not so fast Ritu. Allah tero naam ought to be rated as the all-time best
Bhajan ever. Lata's rendition should take anyone's breath away. Then there
is jo tum toDo piyaa (old) and the quintessential jyoti kalash chhalake (can
this be called a bhajan?). The other Meera bhajans by Hridayanath barase
bu.ndiyaa.n saavan kii and mat jaa jogii are quite good while nisadin
barasat nai.n hamaare is exquisite. Vasant Prabhu's mei.n nahii.n maaKhan
Khaayo is a rendition to be treasured. It beats Saigal's version by miles.
So I am not letting you off Lata's bandwagon so fast.
A
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Ajit
> "Arun Iyengar" <arun_iy...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3cfad$d...@netnews.proxy.lucent.com>...
> > "Animesh Kumar" <ani...@eecs.berkely.edu> wrote in message
> > news:c3aik7$2177$1...@agate.berkeley.edu...
> > > Another bhajan from chala vahi des. An RMIM search revealed that this
> > > song is based on Raag Bhimpalasi.
> >
> >
> > One of her better songs of the album in an otherwise (mostly) disappointing
> > fare.
>
> Are you talking about Chala Vahi Des? If yes, then I agree completely
> and am glad to find someone else who thinks the same way!. The album
> just does not touch you. It has everything going for it.. yet, it
> lacks an undefinable something. In light of Lata's affinity for
> bhajans, I would say an opportunity lost.
>
The record of Meera Bhajans released in the late 60s featured better
singing by Lata than the one released in the mid 70s, i.e. Chala Vaahi
Des. In the former set of bhajans, every song is a masterpiece, with
my favourites being "mhaara ri giridhar gopaal" and "nand nandana...".
It is hard not to notice the piety she has infused in the former
bhajan, especially when she sings the line "saadhu sang baiTh
baiTh...".
Even Chala Vahi Des is a wonderful album. The 70s produced a decline
in Lata's vocal prowess (especially in the higher notes), but the
album is overall wonderful. "Saanware rang raachi" is such a soothing
tune. One song that became a greate favourite of mine after repeated
listenings was "gaDh se to meerabai utari". The way Hridaynath has
overlapped the lines sung by Lata with those by the chorus ("raam
krishna hari") is something that never fails to amaze me. While "mai
mai kaise jioon ri", "ud jaa re kaaga" and "santon karam ki gati
nyaar" are expertly and soulfully
rendered, there are two songs that stand out very distinctly for me:
1) Ko birahiNi ko dukh jaaNe ho - This is a haunting tune (based on
Madhuvanti). Listen to the lines "rogi antar baid basat hai, baid hi
okhad jaaNe ho"...its hard not to notice the earnestness in the
rendition. This certainly is up there in the best of the best in the
devotional category.
2) Sakhi ri laaj bairan bhai - This would be a very unusual tune for a
bhajan. Which raaga is this based on?
Taking all this into account, I would put many of these songs amongst
Lata's best ever. There are two songs in the album that are however
really mediocre - the title song, for instance, especially because
Lata really does a screeching act in the higher octaves here. And
"radha pyaari de daaro na bansi mori", because the tune is absolutely
patchy. Hridaynath had created an equally patchy tune for one of his
Marathi bhavgeets, also sung by Lata: "saavar re saavar re, uncha
uncha zhulaa". I cannot somehow adjust to the rather convoluted change
in rhythm in both these songs.
Ajit
> > At the end of the day I have made a strange observation... very few
> > Lata bhajans make it to my top list of bhajans.
>
>
> Not so fast Ritu. Allah tero naam ought to be rated as the all-time best
> Bhajan ever. Lata's rendition should take anyone's breath away. Then there
> is jo tum toDo piyaa (old) and the quintessential jyoti kalash chhalake (can
> this be called a bhajan?). The other Meera bhajans by Hridayanath barase
> bu.ndiyaa.n saavan kii and mat jaa jogii are quite good while nisadin
> barasat nai.n hamaare is exquisite.
>
Add to this, a few Marathi abhangs from the album "Abhang Tukyaache",
my pick being "Sundar te dhyaan". Just the first few words of the song
take you into a different world altogether.
> Vasant Prabhu's mei.n nahii.n maaKhan
> Khaayo is a rendition to be treasured. It beats Saigal's version by miles.
That doesn't take much :)