Music Directors who never used Rafi
Vish
I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
(to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
but never used Rafi.
While you are at it, let me have your response (to the Q above) for
Kishore, Manna Dey, and Mukesh too.
Vishwanath
Ketan
Kishore was never used by Vasant Desai, IIRC.
Going a bit beyond your basic questions, some 10 years ago I had compiled a list
of MD's who had composed for Lata but not Asha and vice-versa. I am posting the
list below for the purposes of information. This does not have a qualifier for
minimum number of movies etc. This information was put together from Vishwas
Nerurkar's books on the two sisters. Since Lata's data ends at 1989 or so, there
might be a few names that are incorrect(haven't Dilip Sen-Sameer Sen composed
for her?) Comments/corrections are welcome
MD's composing for Lata but never for Asha:
Aziz Khan
B. S. Kalla
C. R. Subbaraman
Datta Davajekar
Dilip Dholakia
E. Shankar Shastri
Ghulam Haider
Karnad + P. Ramakant
M D Parthsarthi +
E Shankar Shastry +
B S Kalla
Madhusudan Acharya
Master Krishnarao
Mukesh
Mukund Masurekar
P. Ramakant
Pamarthi + Ashwatthama
Pandit Amarnath
Pardesi
R. Sudarshanam + Dhaniram
Ramesh
Ramkrishan Shinde
S. Bannerji
Saraswati Devi
Shailesh
Shaukat Haidari
Shridhar Parsekar
Vasant + Ramchandra
Vedpal
MD's composing for Asha but never for Lata:
Aaftab-Salim
Aalok Ganguly
Ajay Swami
Ajay-Vishwanath
Ajit Singh
Ajit Varman
Alhad-Amrish
Anil-Arun
Anil-Nanda
Anup Jalota
Anupam Ghatak
Asit Ganguly
Aziz Nazaan
B. Lakshman
B.T. Singh
Basu Chakravarti
Bablaa
Babul
Babul Bose
Basudev
Bhanu Thakur
Bhupinder Singh
Bhushan Nehata
Bhuvan Hari
Bipin Dutt
Bulo C Rani - J B H Wadia
C. K. Chauhan
Chakravarti
Channi Singh
Charanjit Ahuja
Chetan
D. S. Ruben
Daan Singh
Dattaraj-Shyambabu
Dev-Sanjiv-Wadhavkar-Parsekar
Dhiraj Babloo
Dhiraj Kumar
Dilip Datta
Dilip Sen - Sameer Sen
Dilshad Kamal
Dipan Chatterjee
Dulal Sen
G. Ramanathan- B.N. Bali
G.P. Kapoor
Gajanan
Ganga Sagar
Ghanshyam Pyare
Ghulam Ali
Gunjan
H. Parshuram
Hanuman Prasad
Harbans
Hari - Arjun
Hari Darshan
Harish Dhawan
Himanshu Biswas
Iqbal Gil
J. P. Kaushik
Jagatjit Khanna
Jagdish J
Jagjit Singh - Chitra Singh
James Singh
Jaya Govind
Jimmy
K Babuji
K Balakrishnan
Kamal Makdoom
Kamal Rajasthani
Kamalkant
Kanakraj
Kanti Kiran
Kanu Roy
Khaan Mastana
Khemchand Prakash - Bhola Shreshtha
Khemchand Prakash - Manna Dey
Khokahn Chaudhary
Khurshid Anwar
Krishan Kamal
Kuldip Singh
Kumar
Madhu Mukherjee
Mahesh - Kishore
Manas Mukherjee - Vishal Bharadwaj
Mandhir - Jatin
Mukul Roy
Mustafa Yusuf
Naashad - Sonik
Nandi Duggal
Narayan
Narayan Dutt
Narendra Rajput
Naresh Sharmna
Niraj - Uttank
Nirmal Kumar
Nisar Bazmi
O. P. Nayyar
Omkar
P. D. Sharma
Pandit Harbans Lal
Pandurang Dikshit
Pankah Udhas
Pankaj Bhatt
Pradip Roy Chaudhary
Prem Gupta
R. K. Arun
Raghunath Sheth
Raj Kamal
Raj Sonik
Rajan Pal
Rajhans Katariya
Ram Ganguly
Ram Prasad
Ramchandra Pal
Ranjit Gajamer
Rasik J - M Hussain - G Yash
Ratnadeep - Hemraj
Ratnadeep - Hemraj
Ratnesh Sarkar
Robin Banerjee
Robin Chatterjee
Rono Deb Mukherjee
Roshanlal Khatri
S Kishan
S M Subbaiah
S Madan
S N Tripathi _ Chitragupt
S Rajeshwar Rao
Sardar Mallik - Premnath
Satish Bhatia
Satyam
Shankar
Shankarlal
Shankarrao Vyas
Shanti Kumar Desai
Sharang Dev
Shaym Sagar
Shekhar
Shirrang Aras
Shyam
Som Dev Kashyap
Sonik - Girdhar
Sudarshan
Sudhir Sen
Sudipta
Sukhwal
Sulochna Manandhar
Sumat Raj
Sumitra Lahiri
Suresh - Talwar
Suresh Kumar
Surhid Kar
Surinder Kohli
Surinder Kohli - Gurbachan
Surya Kumar Pal
Sushant Banerjee
Swami Amit
T G Lingappa
T R Pappa
T V Raju
Timir Baran - S K Pal
Trina Chakravarti
Tushar Bhatia
Vakil Babu
Vasant Pawar - Ram Wadhavkar
Vidyut Goswami
Vijay Batalvi
Vilayat Khan
Vipin Reshmaiya
Vishnu Khanna
Vishwashankar
Vithal Mumtaz
Yunuz Malik
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Since the second list(Asha NOT Lata) is longer, let the next edition of the
Lata-Asha war begin
Ketan
vijay...@my-deja.com
> In article <1184183956.872894.67...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Vish says...
>
> Since the second list(Asha NOT Lata) is longer, let the next edition of the
> Lata-Asha war begin
>
> Ketan
Interesting that neither Bipin nor Babul by themselves
picked Lata or composed for her. Did they use both
sisters in the films they worked on together?
Also, too many names on both lists include
composers who are rare instances as partners, but
have enough songs with both sisters as independent
composers and should not belong to the list (e.g.,
Chitragupt-SN Tripathi)
Vasant Ramchandra do appear on both lists, although
the names are spelt differently. Jagjit has worked
with Lata on non-film albums, right?
Perhaps additional QC is called for before you
can declare the wars open.
Vijay
Shalini Razdan
> We all know the Lata never recorded any songs with OP.
>
> I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
> (to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
> but never used Rafi.
>
One possibility that comes to mind is Raghunath Seth. Someone can
verify, but at the moment I can't recall a Rafi song for him. Kanu
Roy and AR Quereshi may be contenders as well...
> While you are at it, let me have your response (to the Q above) for
> Kishore, Manna Dey, and Mukesh too.
Ketan mentioned Vasant Desai as never having used Kishore and I think
the same holds true for S N Tripathi.
Shalini
>
> Vishwanath
Anant Rege
Looks like most of the composers that worked only with Asha did not have a
much of a career in the industry.
Anant
"Ketan" <Ketan_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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UVR
> On Jul 11, 3:59 pm, Vish <vishi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We all know the Lata never recorded any songs with OP.
>
> > I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
> > (to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
> > but never used Rafi.
>
> One possibility that comes to mind is Raghunath Seth. Someone can
> verify, but at the moment I can't recall a Rafi song for him. Kanu
> Roy and AR Quereshi may be contenders as well...
>
Kishore Kumar (composer) didn't compose anything for Rafi.
-UVR.
UVR
>
> > We all know the Lata never recorded any songs with OP.
>
> > I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
> > (to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
> > but never used Rafi.
>
> One possibility that comes to mind is Raghunath Seth. Someone can
> verify, but at the moment I can't recall a Rafi song for him. Kanu
> Roy and AR Quereshi may be contenders as well...
>
>
Kanu Roy seems like a possibility for a non-Rafi user, but
for AR Qureshi, thanks to the incessant efforts put in by one
VSRawat, the ISB contains this song:
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/14211.isb
-UVR.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
And another song comes to mind, an early Rafi number "Das Na Jaaen
Tujhko Zulfen Kaaliyaan" from a film whose name I can't remember - the
accompaniment is basically a "dagga" and some violins.
Sanjeev
Ketan
IIRC, Rafi sang for Kishore the composer in either "Badhti ka naam dadhi" or
"Chalti Ka Naam Zindagi".
There is an incident that is frequently mentioned that when Kishore went to pay
Rafi his fees for the song, Rafi turned it down, saying "Yo bro, we live in the
same hood, 'nowhatiamsayin". I think what Rafi meant to say was "Hum to ek ki
gali ke rehne waale hai", but one can hardly expect a guy with a squeaky loser
voice like that to speak properly now can we?
Ketan
PS: (gratuitous Rafi slam, is just to make sure the weapons are well oiled in
case of emergencies and all that rot)
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> IIRC, Rafi sang for Kishore the composer in either "Badhti ka naam dadhi" or
> "Chalti Ka Naam Zindagi".
Yup, the latter ("Band Muththi Laakh Ki...")
>
> There is an incident that is frequently mentioned that when Kishore went to pay
> Rafi his fees for the song, Rafi turned it down, saying "Yo bro, we live in the
> same hood, 'nowhatiamsayin". I think what Rafi meant to say was "Hum to ek ki
> gali ke rehne waale hai", but one can hardly expect a guy with a squeaky loser
> voice like that to speak properly now can we?
>
> Ketan
>
> PS: (gratuitous Rafi slam, is just to make sure the weapons are well oiled in
> case of emergencies and all that rot)
Oh yeah? Well we all know, uh, KK was trying to pay off Rafi to,
uh....not beat him up...yeah, that's it!
Animesh K
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/20931.isb
Mallika as per Indianscreen's website. I posted its lyrics in Dec 2005.
aanand
Has Mukesh sung for Hemant Kumar , Vasant Desai, Jaidev , Sajjad?
HAs Manna dey sung for Khayyam ?
rgds
Anand
Animesh K
Mukesh for Jaidev yes .. Chandragrahan
Manna Dey for Khayyaam yes .. Aakhiri Khat (a banal song)
> rgds
> Anand
>
Sukesh
02) Mukesh for Hemant Kumar = Maa Beta, Biwi Aur Makaan
Regards
Sukesh
Sukesh
Regards
Sukesh
Animesh K
Which song?
Sukesh
01) mathuraa shyaam chal_ay - Manna Dey & Geeta Dut + another female
singer
02) phir nahi_n aa_nay_waal_ay - Manna Dey & Asha Bhosle
Regards
Sukesh
vijay...@my-deja.com
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A much more memorable Mukesh song is from Kinare Kinare
jab sataataa hai Gam-e-dil to mai.n ha.Ns letaa huu.N
The same film featured Manna De's
chale jaa rahe hai.n muhabbat ke maare.
Jaidev completed an unusual quartet of solos by using Rafi
(terii tasaviir bhii tujh jaisii) and Talat (dekh lii terii khudaaii)
in the same film. He also used Lata, Asha & Sudha in
the same film.
I think Hemant's Biwi aur Makaan featured Mukesh's voice.
In fact, the film featured all of Mukesh, Rafi, Manna De, Talat
and Hemant himself.
Vijay
Vish
"We all know the Lata never recorded any songs with OP. ...
I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
(to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
but never used Rafi. .. "
I guess not ...
Vishwanath
By Jul 18, 11:59 pm, "Sukesh" <sukesh_hoo...@NOSPAMyahoo.co.in> and
whole bunch of other folks have wrote:
> a lot of stuff ...
>
> Regards
> a whole bunch of folks ..
Shalini Razdan
> So, as I was saying in my original email ...
>
> "We all know the Lata never recorded any songs with OP. ...
>
> I was wondering if there were any music directors who composed after
> (to keep it simple, lets say) 1952 and composed for at least 5 films,
> but never used Rafi. .. "
>
> I guess not ...
Um, go through the posts again.:-) Kanu Roy and Raghunath Seth have
not used Rafi.
Shalini
> Vishwanath
Animesh K
LOL, even A R Rahman didn't use Rafi for that matter, has composed after
1952 and has done more than 5 films.
Shalini
"Animesh K" <anime...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Help me out here, what's so funny? Vish asked a serious question and I
supplied a serious answer. Where do you find the humor in that?
Shalini
Animesh K
Sorry I should have replied to Vish's question directly. His question,
as it reads, allows ARR, Reshammiya, etc. as answers.