Songs picturised on Parsis
asi...@my-deja.com
..in a vein similar to the thread on Parsi musicians, how many songs
have been picturised on Parsi actors/actresses? These could include
songs which are not actually sung on the screen by the Parsi in
question, but one in which the actor/actress is shown prominently while
the song is being sung.
I do not recall if Boman Irani and Perizaad Zorabian have songs
picturised on them. I think Cyrus Broacha has a mushy-mushy song in
Jalwa picturised on him in the company of Archana Puran Singh. Pearl
Padamsee is in Khatta Meetha and Batoan Batoan Mein.
I don't know if there is a song in Trikal (even in the background) with
Sabira Merchant in it. Shernaz Patel acted in Janam and iirc, features
in a song.
Any idea about this film? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127289/ [Sixth
Happiness - seems like a Firdaus Kanga film]
Before Ronnie Screwala became a big producer, did he ever act in a
film? He was a biggie in Bombay theatre.
Any others? Actors of the 50s-60s years, perhaps? Pesi Patel in Shree
420?
Pesi Patel http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0665387/
Cheers
Arun
UVR
> Hi,
>
> ..in a vein similar to the thread on Parsi musicians, how many songs
> have been picturised on Parsi actors/actresses? These could include
> songs which are not actually sung on the screen by the Parsi in
> question, but one in which the actor/actress is shown prominently while
> the song is being sung.
>
> I do not recall if Boman Irani and Perizaad Zorabian have songs
> picturised on them.
Perizad certainly does. In "Jogger's Park", there are at least
two songs where the is 'shown prominently': the title song and
the Ghazal 'ba.Dii naazuk hai yeh ma.nzil, muhabbat kaa safar hai'
(Jagjit Singh). And in the Shabana Azmi starrer 'Morning Raga',
she actually 'sings' the song. I'm sure there are other films
where she has 'sung' or featured prominently, I just don't
remember.
IIRC, Boman Irani is 'shown prominently' in at least one song
in Munna Bhai MBBS. Don't remember which, though I don't think
it's the title song.
-UVR.
Afzal A. Khan
How about "Malhar", where the leading lady was
a Parsi --- Shammi, whose original name was
Nargis Rabadi. Even in "Sangdil", she played a
prominent role. In "Aakhri Daao", 1958 she is made to
utter a few sounds "he, he he" and perhaps whistle too.
Afzal
Shekhar
songs picturised on her.
Regards
Shekhar
gopal...@rediffmail.com
If you consider Aruna Irani as a parsi (at least her brothers'
names sound parsi i.e. Firoze Irani and Adi Irani) , then you have many
songs pricurized on her.
Also there would be many songs on old years Sohrab Modi.
enjoy
gopla
Asif
Yes, she is a Parsi. I know this from a Parsi guy (from Mumbai) who
worked with me a few years ago. He also told me that Neelam Kothari
(of Govinda pair fame) also is Parsi.
Asif
Afzal A. Khan
Yes. Madhumati's original name is Hitoxi Reporter.
Afzal
Surjit Singh
gopal...@rediffmail.com wrote:
One of them is available on my website
Prithvi Vallabh - tailap kii nagarii me.n gaanaa manaa hai
http://hindi-songs-movies.com/prithvi-vallabh.html
>
> enjoy
> gopla
>
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
seth...@yahoo.com
him ?
Great info , never heard this before .
Regards ,
Cawas Sethna
V S Rawat
> Hi,
>
As far as I know, there was only one with the name of
Parsis, and she was Parsis Khambata.
I am not aware whether she had been in a hindi film, but she
had been to one english film (probably star wars).
I am not aware whether there was any song picturises on her
in this movie.
--
Rawat
Ketan
>
>On 7/15/05 4:34 AM India Time, _as...@my-deja.com_ wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>
>As far as I know, there was only one with the name of
>Parsis, and she was Parsis Khambata.
It's Persis, not Parsis!
>I am not aware whether she had been in a hindi film, but she
>had been to one english film (probably star wars).
It's Star Trek--The Motion Picture(1979), not Star Wars!
>I am not aware whether there was any song picturises on her
>in this movie.
What? You didn't see her and Spock singing "Darya kenar ek bungalow..." while on
a visit to Neptune?
Ketan
seth...@yahoo.com
Prof Saab , It's an excellent site . I need to explore the
articles and songs etc . It will take a long time for me to go thru .
Warm regards ,
Sethna
asi...@my-deja.com
Navin's site has two songs on Sohrab Modi
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~navin/india/songs/isongs/indexes/starring/sohrab_modi.html
Cheers
Arun
Narendra
then there are many songs picturized on them.
IIRC, Agha had two songs in Patita.
Jalal Agha had a song in Sholay and another song 'Sama hai suhaanaa
suhaanaa' (don't remember the movie name).
- Narendra
surjit singh
V S Rawat
> In article <42de5...@x-privat.org>, V S Rawat says...
>
>>On 7/15/05 4:34 AM India Time, _as...@my-deja.com_ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>
>>As far as I know, there was only one with the name of
>>Parsis, and she was Parsis Khambata.
>
>
> It's Persis, not Parsis!
oh. mea culpa.
In that case, I don't know even one person having name Parsis.
>>I am not aware whether she had been in a hindi film, but she
>>had been to one english film (probably star wars).
>
>
> It's Star Trek--The Motion Picture(1979), not Star Wars!
Star trek, I think, was a TV serial, not a picture.
>
>
>>I am not aware whether there was any song picturises on her
>>in this movie.
>
>
> What? You didn't see her and Spock singing "Darya kenar ek bungalow..." while on
> a visit to Neptune?
You must be kidding.
Why would anyone in his senses put this stupid RDB song in a
English SF movie?
>
>
> Ketan
>
--
Rawat
asi...@my-deja.com
V S Rawat wrote:
> >>As far as I know, there was only one with the name of
> >>Parsis, and she was Parsis Khambata.
> >
> >
> > It's Persis, not Parsis!
>
> oh. mea culpa.
>
> In that case, I don't know even one person having name Parsis.
>
> >>I am not aware whether she had been in a hindi film, but she
> >>had been to one english film (probably star wars).
> >
> >
> > It's Star Trek--The Motion Picture(1979), not Star Wars!
>
> Star trek, I think, was a TV serial, not a picture.
>
The late Persis Khambatta had acted in Star Trek, the film. There have
been at least four ST films. She had shaved her head bald for the role.
It had created quite a stir in India back then. She was a former Miss
India.
So you may try again with the pun on the word "Parsis".
Cheers
Arun
asi...@my-deja.com
Ketan wrote:
> What? You didn't see her and Spock singing "Darya kenar ek bungalow..." while on
> a visit to Neptune?
Ketan,
Nowadays, people don't "get" tongue in cheek humour without the aid of
smileys. I bet that at least 2 persons will respond back asking for
pstats.
Wasn't "Yeh Tara, Woh Tara" used in Star Wars?
Cheers
Arun
Ashok
asi...@my-deja.com says...
>There have been at least four ST films.
>Arun
What? Your statement is trivially accurate in the sense
that 10 is "at least four", but really .. Four. Hmmm
Yes, there have been ten. See, among others,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek#Motion_pictures
Ashok
asi...@my-deja.com
that there was a 4, but never realised that they kept going like the
Energizer battery.
Cheers
Arun
kcp
> > What? You didn't see her and Spock singing "Darya kenar ek bungalow..." while on
> > a visit to Neptune?
>
> You must be kidding.
>
> Why would anyone in his senses put this stupid RDB song in a
> English SF movie?
STUPID Rawat ? This is not a RDB song :)
Its by Basu-Manohari.
KCP
prakash...@gmail.com
forger 'Purnima' song picturised on Mehmood (shown as Parsee?) -
Muskura laDle Muskura, Koi Bhi Phool eTloo Nathi khoobsurat, Hai jitna
mukhaDa teDha, etc etc.
PDP
V S Rawat
Parsis appeared in which part of ST?
--
Rawat
V S Rawat
oh. mea culpa.
actually whenever I hear any stupid song, RDB's is the first
name that comes to my mind.
This song seems so stupid as if basu-manohari had somehow
inherited stupidity form RDB.
--
Rawat
UVR
Bunny. I believe the expression is "Energizer bunny".
-UVR.
vijay...@my-deja.com
Asif
plain stupid, just plain garbage, not worth preserving even in ISB,
forget about records and tapes.
Asif
UVR
Come now, Asif saahib. Really? Not even in the ISB, eh?
What about this:
sabaq aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune
laakh dene kaa ek denaa hai
dil-e-be_mudda'aa diyaa tuune
be-talab jo milaa milaa mujhako
be-Gharaz jo diyaa diyaa tuune
kahii.n mushtaaq se hijaab huaa
kahii.n pardaa uThaa diyaa tuune
miT gaye dil se naqsh-e-baatil sab
naqsh apanaa jamaa diyaa tuune
mujh gunahagaar ko jo baKhsh diyaa
to jahannum ko kyaa diyaa tuune
'daaGh' ko kaun denewaalaa thaa
jo diyaa, ai Khudaa, diyaa tuune
-UVR.
V S Rawat
FWDing. The name of the book was not mentioned.
A befitting reply to Asif's personal hatred. Asif ji might
deny ARR a place in ISB, but ARR is nonetheless getting
mentioned.
did any president, PM, Saansad, Vidhaaya, parshad or even a
street-corner-leader every mentioned RDB?
--
Rawat
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----------
Abhijit
V S Rawat wrote:
> On 7/22/05 6:34 AM India Time, _Asif_ wrote:
>
> > I think about ARR when people talk about stupidity - ALL his songs are
> > plain stupid, just plain garbage, not worth preserving even in ISB,
> > forget about records and tapes.
> >
> > Asif
> >
>
> FWDing. The name of the book was not mentioned.
>
> A befitting reply to Asif's personal hatred. Asif ji might
> deny ARR a place in ISB, but ARR is nonetheless getting
> mentioned.
>
I think you started the war this time by using the word "stupid".
> did any president, PM, Saansad, Vidhaaya, parshad or even a
> street-corner-leader every mentioned RDB?
>
How does a political leader commenting on a musical personality matter
much? Here is another excerpt (not exact, from memory):
"RDB is the only musical phenomenon that happened to HFM in last 20
years (or so)".
The person who said this carries a lot more weightage as far as review
of composers' work is concerned, yes, much more than even a President.
[snipped the quote where ARR is mentioned only once for singing Vande
Mataram. This commendation IMO is akin to someone mentioning Rafi
singing bhajans despite being a muslim, nothing more.]
V S Rawat
> Though I hate flame wars, let me get carried away this friday.
>
> V S Rawat wrote:
>
>>On 7/22/05 6:34 AM India Time, _Asif_ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think about ARR when people talk about stupidity - ALL his songs are
>>>plain stupid, just plain garbage, not worth preserving even in ISB,
>>>forget about records and tapes.
>>>
>>>Asif
>>>
>>
>>FWDing. The name of the book was not mentioned.
>>
>>A befitting reply to Asif's personal hatred. Asif ji might
>>deny ARR a place in ISB, but ARR is nonetheless getting
>>mentioned.
>>
>
> I think you started the war this time by using the word "stupid".
Whatever I had started, was not started with you.
Whatever was started, those persons know quite well with
whom it was started.
What is your locus standi in coming to fight someone else's
fight? duusare ke phaTe me.n Taa.ng a.Daanaa, etc., etc.
You have proven yourself to be another fight-monger who
jumps in anywhere wherever you sense opportunity to fight.
Spare me all this. I am no game for sickly people like you.
>
>
>>did any president, PM, Saansad, Vidhaaya, parshad or even a
>>street-corner-leader every mentioned RDB?
>>
>
> How does a political leader commenting on a musical personality matter
> much? Here is another excerpt (not exact, from memory):
> "RDB is the only musical phenomenon that happened to HFM in last 20
> years (or so)".
> The person who said this carries a lot more weightage as far as review
> of composers' work is concerned, yes, much more than even a President.
>
> [snipped the quote where ARR is mentioned only once for singing Vande
> Mataram. This commendation IMO is akin to someone mentioning Rafi
> singing bhajans despite being a muslim, nothing more.]
>
If Rafi singing bhajans inspite of being a muslim is nothing
great for you, naushad composing a bhajan inspite of being a
muslim and shakeel writing a bhajan inspite of being a
muslim will also mean nothing for you.
And it only shows your mental bankruptcy (sp?).
Good bye.
--
Rawat
seth...@yahoo.com
instrument is Veena and he got trained by a professional musician .
He has many veena classicals in his collection .
I hope this info helps for rmim'ers .
Cawas Sethna
Afzal A. Khan
One of the finest devotional ghazals. And a great
composition on the part of ARR. If I remember the
song correctly, in the penultimate sher, the singer
seems to pronounce the word as "gunehgaar". Is the
"miT gaye dil se..." sher also included in the song ?
Madhushree (?) put over the song exquisitely. The film
had some powerful performances from all the principal
artistes -- Shabana Azmi, Urmila Matondkar, Arjun
Rampal and Diya Mirza.
But it is a pity that the song was rather spoilt in
the picturization.
Afzal
Animesh Kumar
Touche!
Thanks for the lyrics. You should have posted the "implicit" part in
your post --- the pstats of the song. I had no clue that ARR composed
this Ghazal in Tehzeeb.
The orchestration could have been better, however. The singer, Sujata B,
did decent job with pronunciation, except at be_mudda'aa. (I forgot what
is the name of this lengthening of word, from muddaa to mudda'aa).
Best regards,
Animesh
Afzal A. Khan
The song was picturized on Namrata Shirodkar who (in the film)
is a protege of Satish Kaushik.
Afzal
kcp
>
> actually whenever I hear any stupid song, RDB's is the first
> name that comes to my mind.
You mean lyrics ? or music ?
:P
KCP
PS -
1) Please let me know how many RDB songs you have heard ? :)
2) The song in question has one of the MOST popular Konkani
music-influence...infact direct lift, I would say. It is so sweet !!!
kcp
> President Abdul Kalam is a great lover of music . His favourite
> instrument is Veena and he got trained by a professional musician .
> He has many veena classicals in his collection .
> I hope this info helps for rmim'ers .
>
> Cawas Sethna
Thanks for the info Cawas ji.
I do not know how much knowledge about "Film Music", does Abdul Kalamji
have ?
Can you please highlight ( if you know )
KCP
V S Rawat
several people have no clue, hence they badmouth ARR.
All songs of Tehzeeb are already in isb, with full pstats,
including this one.
\startsong
\stitle{sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune}%
\film{Tehzeeb}%
\year{2003}%
\starring{Shabana Azmi, Rishi Kapoor, Urmila Matondkar,
Arjun Ramphal, Dia Mirza, Namrata Shirodkar}%
\singer{Sujata Bhattacharya}%
\music{A R Rahman}%
\lyrics{Daag Dehalwi}%
% Contributor: BOL ANAMOL #12315 [V S Rawat], 26/01/2004
\printtitle
#indian
( sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune ) \-2
laakh dene kaa ek denaa hai
o o o
laakh dene kaa ek denaa hai
dil\-e\-bemudd_aa diyaa tuune
betalab jo milaa milaa mujhako \-2
beGaraz jo diyaa diyaa tuune
sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune
( kahii.n mushtaaq se hijaab hu_aa
kahii.n paradaa uThaa diyaa tuune ) \-2
miT gaye dil se naqsh\-e\-qaatil sab
------------ So, it was baatil? thanks
naqshaa apanaa jamaa diyaa tuune
sabak aisaa
ho
sabak aisaa
mujh gunahagaar ko jo baKsh diyaa \-2
to jahannum ko kyaa diyaa tuune
daaG ko kaun dene waalaa thaa
jo diyaa ai Kudaa diyaa tuune
sabak aisaa \-4
sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune
#endindian
\endsong
% _End_of_Lyrics
>
> The orchestration could have been better, however.
the refrain.
> The singer, Sujata B,
> did decent job with pronunciation, except at be_mudda'aa. (I forgot what
> is the name of this lengthening of word, from muddaa to mudda'aa).
>
> Best regards,
> Animesh
--
Rawat
seth...@yahoo.com
one .
Regards ,
Sethna
UVR
>
> ( sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
> dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune ) \-2
>
> laakh dene kaa ek denaa hai
> o o o
> laakh dene kaa ek denaa hai
> dil\-e\-bemudd_aa diyaa tuune
>
> betalab jo milaa milaa mujhako \-2
> beGaraz jo diyaa diyaa tuune
> sabak aisaa pa.Dhaa diyaa tuune
> dil se sab kuchh bhulaa diyaa tuune
>
> ( kahii.n mushtaaq se hijaab hu_aa
> kahii.n paradaa uThaa diyaa tuune ) \-2
> miT gaye dil se naqsh\-e\-qaatil sab
>
> ------------ So, it was baatil? thanks
Yes. It's "baatil". Also feel free to correct
. sabak -> sabaq (throughout the song)
. bemudd_aa -> bemudda_aa (above, transliteration error)
. naqshaa -> naqsh (below, transcription error)
-UVR.
Abhijit
V S Rawat wrote:
>
> If Rafi singing bhajans inspite of being a muslim is nothing
> great for you, naushad composing a bhajan inspite of being a
> muslim and shakeel writing a bhajan inspite of being a
> muslim will also mean nothing for you.
>
I did not say they mean nothing to me. But nothing too great about it.
Kishore and Manna Dey too have sung songs relevant to other religions
(Islam and Buddhism) and sure there are similar examples for other
composers and lyricists.
V S Rawat
>
> V S Rawat wrote:
>
>>If Rafi singing bhajans inspite of being a muslim is nothing
>>great for you, naushad composing a bhajan inspite of being a
>>muslim and shakeel writing a bhajan inspite of being a
>>muslim will also mean nothing for you.
>>
>
> I did not say they mean nothing to me. But nothing too great about it.
There is everything great about it. very great, very very great.
> Kishore and Manna Dey too have sung songs relevant to other religions
> (Islam and Buddhism)
There too is very very great.
and sure there are similar examples for other
> composers and lyricists.
>
There too is very very great.
As you do not understand the significance of this thing, I
don't have anything to say to you.
--
Rawat