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RJGK - 36
GHazal in Hindi Movies
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PRELUDE :
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It's around 3 years back, that I conducted an RJGK and almost 1.5 years
have passed since I made the booking for this one ! During all these
long years, Sami's RJGK quiz established itself quite well in the
"entire civilized world". The format is not as bare as it was then, some
imaginative themes have been used, bookings are routinely done, great
guidelines have been issued, participation has increased and what not.
In short, RJGK, is not just a quiz. It's a symbol of the spirit of this
newsgroup. It's a lot of fun too. I hope to keep it the same way, and if
possible, to increase it.
OPENING : The traditional 1.P-K4
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RJGK is a quiz, where you are given the lines from an "antara" of a song
and you have to guess the "mukhada". That's it. If you are not familiar
with this quiz, then please have a look at the superb Web page by Sami -
http://www.lehigh.edu/~sm0e/rjgk.html
If you still have any doubts/questions please feel free to ask me.
Every RJGK is based on some theme, and for this quiz, it's Filmi GHazal.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO KNOW WHAT IS A GHAZAL, TO SOLVE THIS QUIZ. In
fact, knowing a lot about GHazals, may not help at all !!
I would also like to thank the beta-testers for their time and efforts
to improve the overall quality of the quiz. Many many thanks to Preeti
Ranjan Panda and Samiuddin Mohammed.
A NOVELTY : 1. ... P-QR4 !?
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This quiz is _NOT_ a collection of lines from famous GHazals in films !!
Let's see why this is so.
There are 2 types of mistakes, we make while identifying GHazals. One is
considering a non-GHazal as a GHazal. That's not the topic here. The 2nd
mistake is to miss out a genuine GHazal when one hears it !
That's far more interesting ! And THIS is the theme here !!
The songs chosen are well-known. BUT they are not always considered as
GHazals, even when they ARE. Why does this happen ? Ans : Due to Myths.
Before we proceed, let me stress this. All this talk about what is a
GHazal, why we make mistake etc etc is not going to reduce the fun of
solving this quiz. My promise is - it will increase your enjoyment !
And my task is - to give you some __nice__ surprises !!
Let's get straight to the point then, and have a look at the promised
"Myth Explosion" agenda, of this quiz :-)
1. GHazals are always sad.
Not really. A majority of them are indeed sad but there is NO
restriction on the type emotions. Have a look at the songs here.
2. GHazals are poems about love.
Not true anymore ! Once upon a time, yes. Not now.
3. GHazals are tuned in a certain way and sung in a certain way.
Don't get misled by popular GHazal singers. There is a place for
every emotion in GHazal, so different types of tunes are necessary.
4. But isn't there a traditional way of singing GHazals ?
There is. There are various reasons for this, which cannot be
discussed in a quiz. But remember that, GHazal is NOT a type of song
like Qawwali and THumri. It's a FORM of poetry.
5. Filmi GHazals mean Madan Mohan and vice versa.
That's insulting both GHazals and MM. Let's not talk about it.
6. If it's full of Urdu words, it's a GHazal.
Now an insult to Urdu Poetry. Is every English poem a sonnet ?
7. Talat was the best GHazal singer.
Debatable ! But let's not do it here. :-)
8. Only a small group of MDs, singers, lyricists use GHazals.
The refutation of this is the QUIZ itself :-)
So the main idea of the quiz is have a look at the songs which help in
exploding these myths. Believe me, the Filmi GHazal is rich enough in
variety to do this. Or better, don't believe me :-) So you will be set
for the surprises. Come, let's explore the fanastic world of GHazals.
TRANSITION TO MIDDLE GAME :
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Here are some peculiarities of this quiz.
1. Each answer carries 1 point. No tie-breakers. I don't mind joint
winners. The quiz is for fun, not to decide, "Who's the best".
2. I will be using 2 words quite often. Radeef and Qaafiya. This is NOT
done to "maarofy style". YOU CAN VERY WELL IGNORE THESE WORDS. But,
they are actually your friends in solving this quiz ! So let's make
ourselves familiar with these terms.
Radeef = set of COMMON words coming at the end of EACH sher
Qaafiya = the rhyming pattern before Radeef
Let me illustrate this with an example ...
1. koi ummid bar nahin aati
koi surat nazar nahin aati
2. aage aati thi haale dil par hasi
ab kisi baat par nahin aati
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3. hum wahan hain, jahan se humko bhi
kucch hamaari khabar nahin aati
4. kaabaa kis muh se jaaoge 'Ghalib'
sharm tumko magar nahin aati
Now in this GHazal, "nahiN aathi" appears at the end of the 2nd line
of each sher. THAT is Radeef. So by our definition "nahiN aati" is
the Radeef of this GHazal and the words "nazar, par, khabar, magar"
serve as Qaafiya. You should also note that the Quaafiya and Radeef
come at the end of BOTH the lines of the GHazal. This is the Matla
of the GHazal, which in a film song is "mukhada". Some times, the
Radeef is absent. Technically this is very much valid.
So both Radeef and Qaafiya, come at the end of BOTH the lines of the
mukhada you have to guess !! If you still have doubts about these
being your friends, read the following point.
3. EACH CLUE IS A COMPLETE STANZA !! A complete sher of a GHazal. You
cannot ask for more :-). So in addition, you get to know what is
the Radeef and Qaafiya. This means, you know how each line of the
mukhada ends ! Really, you cannot complain now :-) :-) :-)
4. The selection of the song is based on one principle. If it helps
in exploding a myth, take it. The song may be melodious, may not be.
Lyrics may be great, may not be. Such were not the considerations.
So you will find here happy GHazals, seductive GHazal, rainy GHazal
and etc etc. Sometimes, it's the contributor, which justifies the
selection. So we have GHazals by SJ, LP. And SDB too :-) Read on.
5. The songs may have featured multiple times in other RJGKs and
Chitrahaars. Your friends, Radeef and Qaafiya, will help you in
searching the ISB too. But all this is beside the point here.
6. Don't worry about the technicalities. Also, the songs may not fit
the standard metres of Urdu GHazal. That's an involved topic and
let's forget it for the time being. Other restrictions apply.
7. The clues (except the first and last) are in a chronological order,
to the best of my knwoledge. But that's no guarantee :-)
8. There are a few "Technical Diversions" scattered here and there. You
can ignore these too, if you are just interested in solving the quiz
as any other. But reading them, I hope, will be thought provoking.
9. All the opinions expressed here are mine. Insert IHMO where needed.
Finally, the GOLDEN RULE of the RMIM quizzes.
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PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR ANSWERS ON THE NET.
Mail them to ab...@infogain.com
Before 4th January 1997
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THE MIDDLEGAME :
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The QUIZ ! Finally !! If you really have read all that, then THANKS :-)
Here goes the quiz. A 'pooja' begins with, "Shree gaNeshaaya namaH", and
everything related to GHazal, begins with ... yes ... GHalib.
01.
humko unse wafaa ki hai ummeed,
jo nahiN jaanate wafaa kya hai
The lyricist (!) did not intend to write a duet, but that's what the
MD Ghulam Mohammed has done by making both Talat and Suraiyaa sing. I
like this tune, but IMO other tunes in this movie, hardly do any justice
to the words of the poet, on whose life, the movie is loosely based. I
know this is a give away, but then, any GHalib sher would have been so.
02.
yahaaN aaNkhoN aaNkhoN me, baate huii hai,
kisi_ne na dekha, kisi_ne na jaanaa
Probably the first surprise ! A happy song, still a GHazal. This is prob
the most famous NoorjehaaN solo. MD Naushad. Note - no Radeef. From now,
I will be asking a question quite often. Is this tune bad for a GHazal ?
03.
tute hue patvaar haiN, kashti ke hum to kya ~~
haari huii baahoN ki hi patvaar banaa le
If the previous one didn't surprise you, this will. Mastibhari GHazal !
By SDB-Sahir. Is this a bad tune for the scene and the words ? NO, IMO.
Anyway. There is one Dev and two Geeta's in this song :-)
04.
taaj ya, taKHt ya, daulat ho zamaane bhar ki
kaun si cheez muhabbat se badi hoti hai
Is that the way to tune a GHazal ? How many GHazals have been sung by
HemantK ? Is the tune by C.Ramchandra or HemantK ? I was quite relieved
to see that this 'background song' did not feature in the last RJGK :-)
What do you think about the "Myth Explosion Agenda" ? :-)
05.
ro ro ke inhi raahoN me, khona pada ik apane ko
haNs haNs ke inhi raahoN me, apanaaya tha begaane ko
One of the "tandem song" GHazals in this quiz. This is a Sahir-SDB gem.
Has it been taken in Chitrahaar ? Actually both the versions make a good
candidate for Chitrahaar. Devsaab and Nalini Jaywant going in a car in
both versions ! This sad version is by Lata and the happy one is by KK.
Technical diversion : Is the KK version a GHazal ? The question itself
is an answer to another question asked somewhere else :-) :-) Find :-)
06.
rangeen fizaaN chhaaye to zaraa, vaade pe koi aaye to zaraa
ai josh-e-wafaa, dil cheez hai kya, hum jaan bhi de de nazaraanaa
Difficult clue. It's Talat singing a typical typical C.Ramchandra tune
for the lyrics of Jaan Nissar Akhtar. This tune is way far away from the
traditional tunes. Esp. as CR adds "haaye" before repeating the Qaafiya.
(Note - no radeef.) BUT, is there anything wrong ? NO, IMO. The movie
name smells of a flower from which the Chinesse tea comes. :-)
Technical Diversion : Recently, on RMIM, the discussion about breaking
a GHazal into another form took place. I mentioned "manzile apani jagah"
and kept quiet about other such songs. But frankly, I was scared. As
there are a few such songs in THIS quiz ! I was almost sure that one by
one, all the songs would be mentioned. Thankfully, it did not happen :-)
These songs, have an intra-sher rhyming, and can be broken to fit other
forms. Can you find more such songs in this quiz ? If you can find the
song which is indirectly included, then you are great ! But during your
search beware a misleading clue given here ! :-) :-) :-)
07.
kahiN toot jaaye na, hasrat bhara dil
na yuN teer pheNko, nishaanaa badal ke
One of the many many great songs by Naushad-Rafi-Shakeel-DilipK. Do you
remember the picturisation of this ? Nimmi is really trying to shoot
the arrow, in this sher ! Who said GHazal cannot be related to the
scene ? Shakeel was indeed a great poet. BTW, there is no Madhubala or
Nargis in this movie, but Nimmi still has a hard time keeping Dilip, the
Pardesi, all to herself :-).
08.
dard bhi hame qubool, chain bhi hame qubool,
ham_ne har tarah ke phool, haar me piro liye
Is THAT a GHazal ? Oh yes. Aren't SDB's GHazals a perpendicular to the
traditional tunes ? But, tell me frankly, are they bad ? GHazals don't
mean tragedy king, they are for chocolate heroes too :-) And they're not
always sung by GHazal Kings, sometimes they are sung even by Kishore :-)
09.
chhup na sakega ishq hamaara, charoN taraf hai unka nazaara
parda nahiN jab koi khuda_se, bandoN se parda karana kya
Lovely sher and lovely picturization. I mean the idea of showing the
reflections through many mirrors. Suits the words perfectly ! Otherwise,
neither Madhubala's dancing nor DilipK's stoneface (at least here) is
watchable. The Naushad-Shakeel combo has always been awesome.
Diversion :
No other diversion is needed as much as this ! This song, I admit, was
the inspiration to take the quiz along these lines. Long time back, I
read Naushad calling this a GHazal. GHazal ? I wondered. Is this really
a GHazal or is Naushad wrong ? I started thinking. I won't tell you my
conclusion till the results, so you can also give this a good thought.
But, after my thinking, I started examining structure of every film song
I heard. And the result is in front of you :-)
10.
suni meri beena, sangeet bina
sapanoN ki maalaa, murajhaaye
A HINDI GHazal ! This is a difficult clue. So let me add some info about
this Lata song. It's from a great Hrishikesh Mukherjee film and music is
by a great master of Hindustani Classical music - Pt. RaviShankar. The
movie *ed Balraj Sahni and Leela Naidu (?). So find out the movie and
listen to the song. "What a song !", you will exclaim, but would you
have thought this to be GHazal ? Isn't the word-play on "beena" nice in
this sher ? Note : no Radeef.
11.
ye bijalee raakh kar jaayegi, tere pyaar ki duniyaa
na phir tu, jee sakega aur, na tujh_ko maut aayegi
What a curse ! And you thought GHazals are LOVE songs ?! Do you remember
the promised "Myth Explosion Agenda" ? :-) If your views on GHazal are
changing, then Mubaarak ho. Ask the writer of the ATMJH series about
the name of the MD. :-)
12.
muhabbat ka sabak sikho, ye jaakar jalanewaaloN se
ke dil ki baat bhi lab tak, kabhi laayaa nahiN karate
A duet GHazal by Kidar Sharma ! MD Roshan and singers Mukesh, GeetaDutt.
This tune, as discussed in a thread long long long time back, is quite
a cousin of CR's "muhabbat aisi dhadkan hai". The Roshan tune is also
sweet. I would rate Roshan as high as MM and Khayyam for GHazals. Also,
his tunes are more like "geet", if you still haven't changed your
opinion about the tunes for GHazals :-) :-)
Technical Diversion.
This song really deserves a diversion. I got the lyrics of this song on
RMIM long time back. I don't know, if they are complete, but they are
really interesting. You see, in a GHazal, the Matla (first sher) has to
have the Radeef in both the lines. The other shers too, CAN have the
Radeef in both the lines ! This is very much allowed. When it happens,
the other shers also become candidates for being Matla. _Usually_ such
shers are grouped together in the begining of the GHazals.
Coming back to this song, out of the 4 shers I have, 3 are Matlas !!
The only one, which is not, is given as a clue :-) :-) Now give this a
thought. Can the Matlas be swapped ?!?
13.
o neel gagan ke deewaane, tu pyaar na mera pehchaane,
maiN tab tak saath rahuN tere, jab tak na kahe tu maiN haara
The only GHazal composed by Mozart ... er ... Salil Chaudhary :-) ?
Another tandem song as a GHazal. You didn't expect this, right ? Even
I didn't :-) Really. Till a few days back. So in spite of repitition,
I decided to include this, as this has a high 'surprise value'.
Technical Diversion.
Won't say much here. Except this - This is an answer to another question
asked somewhere else :-) :-) :-) I hope I am not overdoing this "quiz
within a quiz" thing.
14.
jo mujh_se nazare chura rahe ho, to meri itni arj bhi sun lo
tumhare charanoN me aa gayi huN, yahiN jeeungi, yahiN maruNgi
This is tuned by Hemantda ! Lyrics by Shakeel. Picturised on MeenaK and
Rehman. No Radeef. Enough ! But is this a GHazal ? Good question :-)
15.
sharm roke hai idhar, shouq udhar kheeNche hai
kya khabar thi, kabhi is dil ki ye haalat hogi
GHazal as sawaa-jawaab ! Amazing Sahir. This is the 2nd time, I myslef,
am including this song in a quiz !! I really love this Roshan tune. A
duet by Rafi and Lata.
16.
tumhari zulphoN se khushaboo ki bheekh lene ko
jhuki jhuki si ghataaeN, bula rahi haiN tumhe
I have a high opinion for Ravi's GHazals. His tunes for GHazals have a
lot of variety, and suit the lyrics. This is a gem by Rafi. The words
are by Sahir, naturally :-) Picturised on Sunil Dutt and Nanda. But you
should be able to take the help of your friend Radeef here !!! Also, by
now, you must agree that a "dardbhari aawaaz" is not enough for GHazal.
GHazal too, needs a versatile singer. Myth Explosion !
17.
tum to raho salaamat, sehara tumhe mubarak
mera har ek aaNsu, dene lagaa duaayeN
There are 2 Title Song GHazals in the quiz, this OTOH is a "title sher"!
MD is Ramlal and a great rendition by Rafi. No Radeef. The intruments
used (Shehnai, chaughada?) and their usage here are absolutely
"non-traditional". Do I need to remind you of "Myth Explosion Agenda" :-)
Diversion.
BTW, have you found the 2 title song GHazals ? I have directly mentioned
only one ! Other is half-title song :-) as the movie had 2 titles.
18.
apane gajare ke har ik phool ke taarif suni,
zakhm-e-dil hamne dikhaaya, to buraa maan gaye
The GHazal "chalke teri aaNkhoNse" is quite infamous on RMIM. This one,
again by SJ is a stiff competition to it. The lyrics here, are not bad.
In fact I included this, as GHazal is being used for "chhedchhad".
That's the novelty. Otherwise, it's a not a good tune. Rafi singing for
RajendraK who is teasing a young Saira Banu. And don't forget your
best friends, Radeef and Qaafiya ! There are here to help you !! In all
their glory. Pay attention to this advise. Otherwise I will have to say
that the participants "buraa maan gaye". :-)
Diversion : SJ were not THAT bad with GHazals. Can you remember some
better GHazals by them ?
19.
ye bhog bhi ek tapasya hai, tum tyaag ke maare kya jaano
apamaan racheta ka hoga, rachana ko agar THukaraaoge
Iti Sahir uvaach ! The reason why I am trying to use Sanskrit is, this
is Sahir's 'bhaashya' on Hindu Philosophy. This is prob the only filmi
ghazal directly talking about Hindu philosophy. Now, this contains pure
Hindi and is about topics, you never thought would come in GHazals. Am I
right ? That's why I included this Roshan tune sung by Lata. No Radeef.
This is the 'atom-bomb' for my "Myth Explosion Agenda" ;-)
20.
shaam tanhaai ki hai, aayegi manzil kaise
jo mujhe raah dikhaaye, wo sitaaraa na rahaa
I can hear the entire KKKlan saying a relieved, "hushshsh" :-) OK, OK,
I wouldn't have completed this quiz without including KK's best attempt
at GHazals :-) This is the 2nd of the 2 GHazals by KK here. The MD (!)
too, adds to whatever little variety this quiz has.
21.
na jaane kaun_sa pal, maut ki amaanat ho,
har ek pal ki KHushi ko gale lagaate jeeo
Thanks to B.R.Chopra, we have many Ravi-Sahir-SunilD-MahedraK combos :-)
This is a fine shouting effort by MKaps. Don't complain about so many
Ravi songs here. He is not MM-Khayyam-Roshan when it comes to GHazals,
but his contribution to GHazals is quite substantial and good too. This
tune is also non-traditional. But the best thing is Sahir's lyrics !
Doesn't this sher fit the scene ? It's sung for soldiers ! Superb.
Diversion :
I have always claimed that Sahir's Nazms are better than his GHazals.
That's also the general opinion. But I was delighted to find so many
Sahir songs to include in this quiz on non-traditional GHazals. It was
a pleasent surprise. Maybe, we can say that, Sahir has done maximum
experiments with GHazal ! A truely great poet.
22.
barbaad wafa ka afsaanaa, hum kis_se kahe aur kaise kahe
khaamosh hai lab, aur duniya ko, ashqoN ki zubaaN maloom nahiN
We have noticed that, Roshan has some sweet GHazals to his cerdit. This
one has been included as a "ruined GHazal". The lyrics by Sahir are
really nice and fit the situation. (No need to say this :-)). But the
tune doesn't fit the lyrics at all. It's bad, frankly. Still, let's not
rush and put Roshan in the league of SJ for GHazals. Here, I think the
culprit is the director. He prob wanted to have a Mujra by Helen and
so ordered for such a tune. This MeenaK-PradeepK-AshokK movie otherwise,
has some of the best and most famous Roshan-Sahir combos.
23.
palat ke su-e-chaman, dekhane se kya hoga
wo shaakh hi na rahi, jo thi aashiyaaN ke liye
( su-e-chaman = chaman ki taraf, shaakh = branch)
GHazal as a title song ! A great one by Sahir and tuned by LP !! I like
the tune. A nice experiment. Nontraditional tune for traditional poetry.
Rafi's singing for DilipK has always been great. I am not going to tell
you anything about the "story" of this movie. No. Nothing. :-)
24.
ek muddat se, tamanna thi tumhe chhoone ki,
aaj bas me nahiN jazbaat, qarib aa jaao
GHazal as a rain-song !! Trust Sahir to do these tricks ! The sher is
not at all subtle/indirect, OTOH it's direct in an unabashed way. Didn't
I tell you, GHazal in films has all the variety you need ? This is a
Ravi song, sung superbly by Rafi. This too, is a repitition :-) But how
about "myth explosion" :-) :-)
25.
uTHaaye phirate the, ehsaan dil ka seene par
le aaj tere kadamoN me, ye karz bhi utaar chale
The famous combination of Madanmohan and Lata ! At last. But the main
reason for including this song is someone else. He is the poet who is
often criticized on RMIM as a non-traditional poet (to put it mildly).
Here, the notorious Gulzar is seen writting a very very traditional
GHazal. A form which has strong syntax ! This is a sign of a great poet.
He can write GHazals and muktachanda with equal ease. And what a sher !
Technical Diversion.
The rules don't say anything about - whether the shers of the GHazal
should be on different topics or on the same topics. In fact both the
types are valid. The one, in which all the shers are on the same topic
is called "GHazal musalsil". The other, where the shers are on different
topics is called "GHazal GHair_musalsil". This second type, is much more
common. This is the type which we often hear in non-filmi GHazals. But,
you see, the first one is better for films, as all the shers could be
related to the situation ! So naturally, the filmi ghazals have more
from the 'musalsil' type. Is it why we don't consider them as GHazals ?
Is this the only "GHazal GHair_musalsil" in this quiz ?
26.
din raat ke dono paiyye bhi, kuchh dhul uda kar beet gaye,
maiN man_aangan me baiTHee rahi, chaukhat se koi guzaraa nahiN
By now a Hindi GHazal or a GHazal by Gulzar is no surprise at all :-).
__BUT__ this is a ghost song ! And still a GHazal !! It also has some
typical Gulzarish phrases :-) MD is Hridaynath.
27.
parastish kee yaaN tak, ki ai buut tujhe
nazar mein sabhoN_ki, KHuda kar chale
(parastish = pooja, yaaN tak = is had tak, buut = beloved/statue)
The quiz started with a great shayar and ends with another one. This is
the only GHazal by Mir taken in movies, AFAIK. Tell me frankly, don't
these two shers stand out ? It also allows me to end it with my King of
Filmi GHazals - Khayyam !! This one is from one of his last movies, and
the songs were popular too. The movie *ed Smita Patil.
The last diversion.
The word "buut" has two different meanings. Which one in your opnion
suits here most ? Can there be two different meanings ? Let me give
you a hint. In Islam, it's forbidden to worship a statue.
Your Move Now :
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So the surprises are over ! Make your move and send in the answers.
If possible, give a thought to the diversions. Here is a last surprise.
An anti-climax ! A couple of songs here CANNOT be called GHazals !!!!!!
Their selection is highly objectionable to say the least. Can you guess
which are these ? And why ?? :-) :-) :-) This is a real twist !! I have
done this, not to torture you, but to measure the impact of this quiz.
Your answers will tell me a lot about my efforts.
The Endgame :
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Even with just 27 songs, it has been a long quiz, I admit. More, who
likes endgames ? :-) So let's just wrap it up quickly. IMO, 25 is THE
right number of clues in a quiz. Here it's 27 for 2 reasons. As said
in the previous section 2 are NOT GHazals. Secondly, 2 of the shers are
by GHalib and Mir, so we have 25 shers here by our lyricits. :-) :-) If
you think this is a weird justification, then, ... you are quite right !
So forget this and send in you comments/answers to me well before (!!!)
the deadline :-)
And remember the GOLDEN RULE of all the RMIM quizzes ...
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PLEASE DON'T POST YOUR ANSWERS ON THE NET.
Mail them to ab...@infogain.com
Before 4th January 1997
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It was a long long quiz, but I hope you enjoyed it.
Thanks !
Answers will be posted next year :-) Till then ....
- Abhay.