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shekhar

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Aug 9, 2001, 5:08:29 AM8/9/01
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Hi all

I'm looking for songs tuned in raag Bhimpalas - film, ghazal, bhajans,
etc.

I have listed the following film songs:

- Aeri main to prem diwani (Naubahar)
- Tere sadqe balam (Amar)
- Aaj purani raahon se (Aadmi)
- Rain bhayi so jaa re panchhi (Ram Rajya)
- Beena madhur madhur (Ram Rajya)
- Dil ke tukde (Dada)
- Dil mein tujhe bithake (Fakira)
- Tumhara chaahanewala (Kahin Din Kahin Raat)
- Samay o dheere chalo (Rudaali)
- Nainon mein bhadra chhaaye (Mera Saaya)
- Zindagi sehra bhi hai (Kahin Aur Chal)
- Aeri kya hai ye paheli (Yaadein)

Any others? I'm especially looking for those that have been sung by
male singers. Some songs like 'O nirdayi preetam' (Stree) and 'Mera
man ka baawra panchhi' (Amardeep) have touches of Bhimpalas but are
predominantly of raag Dhani, and I'm trying not to include these.

Pls. help.

Thanks, and regards

Shekhar

Neha

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Aug 9, 2001, 11:55:08 AM8/9/01
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Shekhar,

We are not going to help you until we get the next installment
of Saaz aur Awaaz series:). We miss it!!!!

Come on...

--
Neha

she...@emirates.net.ae (shekhar) wrote in message news:<83fb4ecf.01080...@posting.google.com>...

Sudhir

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Aug 9, 2001, 12:39:11 PM8/9/01
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How about:

Main Hoon Ek Khalasi, Mera Naam Hai BheemPalasi

It is by a male Singer (the Chorus is: bonus)


Sudhir

Balaji A.S. Murthy

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Aug 9, 2001, 2:17:30 PM8/9/01
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In article <83fb4ecf.01080...@posting.google.com>, she...@emirates.net.ae says...

A few more

Maine chaand aur sitaaron kee tamanna kee thee (Chandrakanta)
Manmor huaa matwaalaa, kisne jaadu daalaa (don't remember film)
Ye na thee hamaaree qismat (Mirza Ghalib)
Haale dil un ko sunaanaa thhaa (don't remember film)

- Balaji

Ket...@att.net

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Aug 9, 2001, 2:41:45 PM8/9/01
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In article <9kuk3q$4...@news.or.intel.com>, bmu...@yahoo.com says...


Is "Khilte hain gul yahan.."--Sharmilee(KK-SDB) on Bhimpalasi? Sounds like
it..but I could be wrong. Corrections welcome.


Ketan

Surajit A. Bose

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Aug 9, 2001, 4:32:48 PM8/9/01
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In article <9kuk3q$4...@news.or.intel.com>,

"aap agar aap na hote" (Grihapravesh)

Incidentally, "naino.n me.n badaraa chhaye" is closer to Dhani than to
Bhimpalas.

-s

Balaji A.S. Murthy

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Aug 9, 2001, 4:21:06 PM8/9/01
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In article <9kulh...@drn.newsguy.com>, Ket...@att.net says...

Yes it is.

BTW, any particular reason you didn't mention Lata? You rabid anti-Lataites:):)

- Balaji

Narendra Joshi

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Aug 9, 2001, 8:12:58 PM8/9/01
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Hi.
The song "Kabhi tanahaiyon me yun" is not a textbook-Bhimpalas, but a
very close approximation of it. The song surely has some hints to
Bhimpalas... especially the stanzas.
This song and the one mentioned by Balaji (Haale dil un ko sunaanaa
thhaa) both are composed by Snehal Bhatkar.
In a TV interview, SnehalB had sung another song going like this
"..... bhul jaya kare" ... this was also set to Bhimpalas. Looks like
he had a thing for Bhimpalas.
Can anyone identify above song ?? IIRC it was penned by Kedar Sharma.


- Narendra

bmu...@yahoo.com (Balaji A.S. Murthy) wrote in message news:<9kuk3q$4...@news.or.intel.com>...

Ashok

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Aug 10, 2001, 1:48:11 AM8/10/01
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>Hi all
>
>I'm looking for songs tuned in raag Bhimpalas - film, ghazal, bhajans,
>etc.
>
>Any others? I'm especially looking for those that have been sung by
>male singers.

>Thanks, and regards
>
>Shekhar

. jo chalaa gayaa use bhuul jaa (Mukesh: Sathi)

. aye Gam-e-dil kyaa karuu.N (Talat: Thokar; also Asha)

. aa niile gagan tale pyaar ham kare.n (Hemant with Lata: Badshah)

. mai.n ne chaa.nd aur sitaaro.n kii tamanaa kii thii (Rafi: Chandrakanta)

. khilate hai.n gul yahaa.N (Kishore: Sharmeeli; also Lata)


Can't resist naming some Lata songs:

. chaa.nd madhdham hai (Lata: Railway Platform)

. raat bhii hai kuchh bhiigii bhiigii (Lata: Mujhe Jeene Do)

and finally isn't "The Song" in Bhimpalas? I mean

. ye zi.ndagii usii kii hai (Lata: Anarkali)

Ashok

Vyasmp

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Aug 10, 2001, 2:59:09 AM8/10/01
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Couple of more

Mehdi Hasan (not from a movie)

ZindagiMe to Sabhi Pyar Kiya Karete Hai

and ARRehman's
Radha Kaise Na Jale (Laggan)

Pankaj

Ket...@att.net

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Aug 10, 2001, 2:15:43 AM8/10/01
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In article <9kurbi$4...@news.or.intel.com>, bmu...@yahoo.com says...
>
>In article <9kulh...@drn.newsguy.com>, Ket...@att.net says...

>>Is "Khilte hain gul yahan.."--Sharmilee(KK-SDB) on Bhimpalasi? Sounds like
>>it..but I could be wrong. Corrections welcome.
>
>Yes it is.
>
>BTW, any particular reason you didn't mention Lata? You rabid anti-Lataites:):)
>
>- Balaji

Not really...as the supreme Lataite, Neha herself says :

"And of course no credit goes to the singer who executed the song
in the most perfect manner that only she could have, because she
happens to be Lata Mangeshkar"


Neha is right. Only Lata could have executed this song as she has. Not murdered,
massacred or bludgeoned but Executed. She uses a superior weapon too. Not one of
those sharp knives which can leave fingerprints around...but her razor sharp
voice. One shrieky high pitched note from her is enough to stop anyone's heart
dead in its tracks. Maybe that is what Neha meant even when she used the term
"executed" for the Chitralekha song. :)


Ketan

Abhay Phadnis

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Aug 10, 2001, 4:18:55 AM8/10/01
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"Vyasmp" <vya...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Couple of more
>
> Mehdi Hasan (not from a movie)
>
> ZindagiMe to Sabhi Pyar Kiya Karete Hai

But it IS from a movie! "Azmat", according to the ISB archive.

Warm regards,
Abhay

naniwadekar

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Aug 10, 2001, 7:54:15 AM8/10/01
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shekhar <she...@emirates.net.ae> wrote -

>
> I'm looking for songs tuned in raag Bhimpalas - film, ghazal, bhajans,
> etc.
>
chanda chamakae (neel) gagan me.n (bahut din hue)

kisi tarah se mahobat me.n chain (Badi Maa)
(But Vish K calls this Bhimpalasi-Dhaani; so it may
not fit your bill.)

check www.sawf.org/rajan for the article
'The Bhimpalasi Inc' by Rajan Parrikar for
a Lata-Rafi duet by Shanky-J. (I am feeling
too lazy to do it myself.)

Someone has already mentioned the stately
'zindagi me.n to sabhi' by the incomparable
Mehdi Hassan.

Will Bade Ghulam's 'ae guN gaa' from his 12-raag
LP do? Then there is the coruscating Bhimpalas
from the divine "TRIVENI" LP
by Vasundhara and Kumar Komakali - 'piya ji
mhare naina ... something something'. Bhimpalasi
was a great favourite with Kumar Gandharva; and
if you explore, you should be able to find another
bhajan or two by him besides this Meera bhajan.
'piya ji ...' is a must-include for any Bhimpalas
collection. What a genius Kumar was!!

- dn


Vijay Kumar K

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Aug 10, 2001, 11:23:55 AM8/10/01
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nar...@yahoo.com (Narendra Joshi) wrote in message news:<38edac6.01080...@posting.google.com>...
> Hi.

> In a TV interview, SnehalB had sung another song going like this
> "..... bhul jaya kare" ... this was also set to Bhimpalas. Looks like
> he had a thing for Bhimpalas.
> Can anyone identify above song ?? IIRC it was penned by Kedar Sharma.
>
One of the few "musical" high-water marks of my recent trip to India
was a late-
night viewing of Neelkamal, Raj Kapoor's 1947 debut as leading man.
The heroine,
according to HFGK, is Madhubala. The Madhubala? If so, she is just
about 14-15
years old, dumpy and gauche, although there were occasions when one
saw a
glimpse of the famed beauty she went on to be.

Also according to HFGK, the music director of Neelkamal is B Vasudev,
who Ashok
assures me, is none other than Snehal Bhatkar himself. And the
lyricist is
Kedar Sharma.

A brief summary of the story here will make it easier to follow the
rest of this
post.

A princely family is betrayed by its commander and slaughtered in a
remote
cave, while on an expedition. He thinks it is a job well done, but the
youngest
girl, a child of two or three, slips away. Anyway, retribution
follows, the evil
snapati (K N Singh?) is nabbed and killed and the erstwhile prince's
brother
takes the throne, albeit a bit reluctantly. This part of the story has
NO
relevance to the rest of the film.
The young princess is brought up by a kind-hearted childless cowherd
and his
shrewish wife, who have no clue that she is a princess. When the girl
grows up
into a 14-15 year old, she encounters Raj Kapoor, a sculptor who comes
to the
village, and breaks his leg in an accident. Naturally, the girl and
her father
take care of him (the mother nags them), and the girl falls in love
with him.
He recovers and leaves for his village again. There, his work comes to
the
notice of the princess (seems to be a daughter of the brother above,
making her
a cousin of Madhubala, but this is never quite resolved). She
commissions Raj
Kapoor to make some statues for her. He is short of inspiration until
Madhubala
comes hunting for him and decides to take up residence in his house,
serving
his guruji. Raj Kapoor makes the same kind of "soorat vs seerat"
statements in
this film that he made later in Aag and Satyam Shivam Sundaram. The
princess falls in love both with his work and with him.
When the princess discovers Madhubala's affection for Raj Kapoor, she
forbids
Raj Kapoor from leaving the palace, and Madhubala from entering it.
Madhubala is
grief stricken, her mother says "I told you so" and Madhubala jumps
into a lake
and gives up her life. Meanwhile, after a night in the palace, Raj
Kapoor
realizes that Madhubala is the true love in his life, and not the
princess. Alas
by the time he gets back, she is already dead. And at the exact spot
where she
drowned, a blue lotus (Neelkamal) blooms. Everyone gathers for one
last group
photo and "THE END"

I missed the first 10 minutes of the movie or so (and probably the
first two
songs), and traced every one of the other songs in HFGK. As far as I
can make
out, the sequence of songs in the film is 4-3-5-7-8-9-10-11 (the
serial nos.
used in HFGK). So, I must have missed #s 1 & 2. And song #6 somewhere
in the
middle when my newphew had to watch ads on another channel :-)

Musically, the film is dominated by several Rajkumari gems, including
the song

bhuul jaate hai.n bhuul jaayaa kare.n
aazamaate hai.n aazamaayaa kare.n

merii qisamat me.n naamuraadiyaa.N hai.n
ha.Nsii u.Daane vaale ha.Nsii u.Daayaa kare.n

hasarate.n merii ruuTh jaaye.ngii
mere sapano.n me.n bhii na aayaa kare.n

There is one more stanza for which I could not get the words. This
song is sung
by Madhubala when she realizes that Raj Kapoor is not coming home for
the night,
just before her eventual suicide. Interestingly, Mukesh features in
quite a few
songs in the film, although none of his songs are shot on Raj Kapoor.
A highly
enjoyable Mukesh song is "pyaar se banno apane kaleje se tum na lagaao
to kaun
lagaaye" which is a duet, an exchange between the "Dhoomal with a big
mustache"
foster father and his wife. Mukesh sings one or two bhajans, too,
IIRC. Raj
Kapoor's songs are given voice by Surendranath, IIRC. Someone can
check the
HFGK to verify this. I don't have that volume here.

HFKG does not give singer credits for song #8. It has two female
voices, and a
male voice (probably Mukesh). There was one other song in the film
which I
could not locate in the good book - "paar karo... duniyaa ko doodh
pilaaye"
sung by the gwalas, just before the child princess is discovered by
her foster parents. The song features one female voice (probably
Rajkumari again), one
male voice and a chorus.

So much so for your query, which could have been simply answered as
Rajkumari,
Neelkamal (1947), Kedar Sharma, B Vasudev.

Vijay

Kishore Kumar

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Aug 11, 2001, 2:08:48 PM8/11/01
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"shekhar" <she...@emirates.net.ae> wrote in message
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Some other songs employing that scale - may or may not follow all the rules
of the raga:

- Mera pyaar wo hai ke, mar kar bhi tumko (M. Kapoor)
- Kahan chale chhalia, mera loot ke jia (Asha)
- Tun chhupi hai kahan (M. Dey)
- Adha hai chandrama (M. Kapoor)
- Tun cheez badi hai mast mast (recent)
- Balamaa-aaa maane na, bairi chup na rahe (Lata)
- Ari o shokh kaliyo, muskura dena wo jab aayen (M. Kapoor)
- Mere bhaiya, mere chanda (Asha)

Two sublime pieces:

- Kuch dil ne kaha, kuch bhi nahin (Lata)
- Tere bina soone, nain hamaare (Rafi - Lata)

And an unbelievable one by the fellow who transcended ragas:

- Tum jo mil gaye ho (Rafi)

shekhar

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Aug 11, 2001, 11:22:07 PM8/11/01
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Many thanks to all who responded to the request. Because of
knowledgable RMIMers I unearthed so many more nuggets in this
beautiful raag.

Regards

Shekhar

raghav

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Aug 16, 2001, 11:45:26 AM8/16/01
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2 more songs if u are still looking for:

1) Tu cheez badi hai mast mast (???)
2) Kehta hai mera yeh dil(Jeans)

Raghav

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