I can think of a few more "Triets" :
"Zindagi Intehaan leti hai", Mukesh, Rafi, Lata - Naseeb
"Goya ke Chunanche (??)" Lata, Kishore, MannaDey - Manoranjan
"Bach ke rehna re baba" RD, Kishore, Asha - Pukaar
"Dukki pe Dukki ho" Bhupinder, Kishore, RD - Satte pe Satta
and last but not least
my personal favourite "Aati rahengi Bahrein" Amit, Kishore, Asha
:-)
I haven't heard this song much, or in a long while, but I'm almost
100% sure Mukesh isn't there in this song. Isn't it Shailendra Singh?
--
Ravindra.
I can think of the following songs:
1. Anhonee ko Honee karde, honee ko anhonee
- (AAA) MahendraKaps, Shailendra Singh and KK and Lata.
There must be a similar song in Naseeb too.
2. Dil Ne phir yaad kiya, fark se leherayee hein
Phir koyi chot mohobbat ki ubhar aayee hein
- MRafi, LataG and Mukesh
3. Tumhare bin ujale(?) hein, kayee din ab na guzarenge
Jo pooja ke kaabil hein, wohi rang bandelenge
- Mrafi, Lata and KK
4. Aa bataye yeh tujhe kaise jiya jaata hein (Dosti)
MRafi, Lata and ShotGun
5. Most of the duets of KS as he can be accounted for two
when the collective adipose is taken into consideration. :-)
And many more...
Trimega17 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 1997
> Abhishek Chandra wrote,
> > I don't know if triet is the correct word for a 3-singer song
> >corresponding to duet. Anyway, I've been thinking of the songs sung
> >together by Rafi, Kishore and Mukesh (with or without other singers),
> >and could remeber only one :
> >"Humko tumse ho gaya hai pyar..." from 'Amar Akbar Anthony'.
> > Can anybody think of others??
> > Or, any other combination of big singers who seldom came together?
> >Thanx,
> >Abhishek.
>
> I can think of a few more "Triets" :
>
> "Zindagi Intehaan leti hai", Mukesh, Rafi, Lata - Naseeb
^^^^^^^^
I think it was Kamlesh Avasathi (Mukesh sound-alike)...
> "Goya ke Chunanche (??)" Lata, Kishore, MannaDey - Manoranjan
> "Bach ke rehna re baba" RD, Kishore, Asha - Pukaar
> "Dukki pe Dukki ho" Bhupinder, Kishore, RD - Satte pe Satta
> and last but not least
> my personal favourite "Aati rahengi Bahrein" Amit, Kishore, Asha
> :-)
Well, don't forget some of the classics (ok, some of them are not
classics but were popular) in this category...like,
dil ne phir yaad kiya - Dil Ne Phir Yaad Kiya - Rafi, Suman, Mukesh
ramaiya vasta vaiya - Shree 420 - Rafi, Lata, Mukesh
har dil jo pyaar karega - Sangam - Mahendra, Lata, Mukesh
muhabbat bade kaam ki cheez hai - Trishul - Kishor, Lata, Yesudas
pyaar zindagi hai - Muqaddar ka Siqandar - Lata, Asha, Mahendra
I know there are more, I am just spacing them out right now...!
Also, there was a number in "Kranti" (by Mr. India - Manoj Kumar) where
they had Lata singing with six male singers (Kishor, Bhupinder,
Mahendra, Nitin Mukesh, Manhar, and somebody else!)
Regards,
Pranav
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> > sing together by Rafi, Kishore and Mukesh
> > and could remeber only one :
> > "Humko tumse ho gaya hai pyar..." from 'Amar Akbar Anthony'.
> >
>
> I haven't heard this song much, or in a long while, but I'm almost
> 100% sure Mukesh isn't there in this song. Isn't it Shailendra Singh?
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>
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Not as far as I can make out. What I have always found
interesting about the song (and some others of the same
class) is the allocation of singers to actors/actresses.
In this instance, Rishi gets Rafi, Amitabh gets Kishore,
and Vinod Khanna gets Mukesh. And for the life of me, I
cannot fault that judgement :-) Mukesh, IMO, does not suit
Amitabh or Rishi Kapoor well at all. Similarly, Rafi, whose
voice was failing by this time, somehow fails to capture
Amitabh's "buland" voice or personality in the movie. He
suits Rishi much better, and that maybe because Rishi was the
Urdu-spouting "Akbar," and Rafi is better at that KK is.
Mukesh, with his gentle voice, gets along famously with
Vinod Khanna's slightly mature, more laid-back character
in the movie.
Even more interesting is the way Lata has sung this song.
She modifies her voice just so for Shabana, a bit of brashness
there for Neetu and her "natural" voice for Praveen. If all
one knew were the three heroines and not which part was
picturized on whom, it would be trivial to guess. The
same goes for the male voices too.
-Prince
>He
>suits Rishi much better, and that maybe because Rishi was the
>Urdu-spouting "Akbar," and Rafi is better at that KK is.
Maybe that fact is also one of the reason. :-)
Honestly, I think Rafi suites Rishi really well.
I love the way Rafi sings "tere dar pe aayaa huN, kuchh karake jaaunga"
from Laila-Majnu. It's a perfect voice for Rishi. Absolutely brilliant
voice control from a singer for an actor. And before anyone mentions all
those RDB-KK songs for Rishi (not to mention Shailendra S songs, YUCK)
please listen to these lines first.
- Abhay.
Rafi = The ultimate choice for the perfect fit.
>
> I can think of the following songs:
>
> 1. Anhonee ko Honee karde, honee ko anhonee
> - (AAA) MahendraKaps, Shailendra Singh and KK and Lata.
> There must be a similar song in Naseeb too.
Yes, "Rang zamane aaye hain.." (I think it's the same group of
singers here too).
>
> 2. Dil Ne phir yaad kiya, fark se leherayee hein
> Phir koyi chot mohobbat ki ubhar aayee hein
> - MRafi, LataG and Mukesh
>
> 3. Tumhare bin ujale(?) hein, kayee din ab na guzarenge
^^^^^^
guzare!
> Jo pooja ke kaabil hein, wohi rang bandelenge
??????????
Jo dil mein aa gayee hai, aaj hum woh kar hi guzarenge.
> - Mrafi, Lata and KK
Does it have KK???
>
> 4. Aa bataye yeh tujhe kaise jiya jaata hein (Dosti)
> MRafi, Lata and ShotGun
>
> 5. Most of the duets of KS as he can be accounted for two
> when the collective adipose is taken into consideration. :-)
>
> And many more...
Good that we are coming up with lots of trieds, why has everyone
forgotten :
1. "Ramaiya vasta vainya.." from Shri 420 (Mukesh, Rafi, Lata),
2. "Har dil jo pyar karega" from Sangam (Mukesh, Lata and MahendraK)
3. "Ho leke pehla-pehla pyar" from CID (Rafi, Asha, Shamshad)
4. "Hoke majboor mujhe usne bulaya hoga"- Haqeeqat (Talat,
Manna, Bhupendra)
5. "Chana zor garam" from Kranti (KK, Rafi, Lata and Nitin Mukesh)
But, guys, I'm still interested in any other songs which feature
Rafi, KK, and Mukesh together. Can u think of any?
Or, for that matter, Rafi-Mukesh-Talat, Rafi-Manna-Mukesh,
Rafi-Manna-Talat, etc.?
Or a tried of female singers? For this one, there's one I can think
of off-hand :
"Tere waste se re sajna nain mere jaage re" (Alka, Anuradha,
Kavita) from one of those J.P.Dutta Rajput movies.
How about Lata-Asha-Shamshad, etc?
Abhishek.
o 'dulhan maike chali' from Manoranjan (RDB). This has Lata, Asha
and Usha Mangeshkar. Not many all-female triets exist I guess..
o 'zindagi milke bitaayenge' from Satte pe Satta (RDB). Kishore,
Bhupinder, Sapan Chakravarty and RDB.
These songs have perhaps been mentioned in the 'triets' thread when this
discussion took place about six months ago..
Renu.
How about these -
Dil ne phir yaad kiya (title song) - Rafi, Suman, Mukesh
Pyar ka samay kam hai jahan (Rampur Ka Laxman) - Rafi, Lata, Kishore
Ramayya vastavayya (Shri 420) - Rafi, Lata, Mukesh
Har dil jo pyar karega (Sangam) - Mukesh, Lata, Mahendra
Sapnon mein mere (Poonam Ki Raat) - Mukesh, Lata, Usha
Anhonee baat thi, ho gai hai (Biwi Aur Makan) - Mukesh, Hemant, Manna Dey
Hai aag hamare seene mein (Jis Desh Mein...) - Mukesh, Manna Dey, Mahendra Kapoor, Geeta
Dutt, Lata!
I'm sure there are many more
Regards, Shekhar
: > In article <5vp4pl$3c...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, pri...@viman.engr.sgi.com says...
: > >suits Rishi much better, and that maybe because Rishi was the
: > >Urdu-spouting "Akbar," and Rafi is better at that KK is.
: While I agree with the statement "Rafi suits Rishi" overall, there is
: one Kishore song in which I can't help appreciating how appropriate he
: sounds for Rishi. He actually seems to change his voice for that.
: The song? "bachana ae hasiino.N lo mai.N aa gaya"
: Hear that and try it for suitability.
I agree. Two more songs come to mind in the category of " Kishore for
Rishi " ---
o 'aaya sanam aaya deewaana tera ' from Bade Dil Waala (RDB)
o 'tum dilwaalon ke aage laakhon deewane aaye ' - a KK/Lata duet
from Sitamgar (RDB)
I think Kishore suits Rishi very well in both of these songs.
Renu.
And Rafi. Remember "Usne ghabraa ke, nazar laakh...." ?)
> 5. "Chana zor garam" from Kranti (KK, Rafi, Lata and Nitin Mukesh)
Of course, both these songs do NOT qualify as "triets", but rather
quartets(??).
-- rtrip
"bachana ae hasino...lo main aa gaya" is from Hum Kisise Kum Nahin
--
Venkatesh
Though for many (most?) songs, Rafi seems to fit Rishi better,
there are some where Kishore is just the man. For example, the
two songs in Kabhi-2 - "tere sheeshe jaisa ang.." and "tere chehre
se nazar nahee hat tee." The former for sure is a song made for
Kishore - the verve, the vivacity, the teenage-chulbulaapan. Rafi,
given his voice had lost the elasticity and freshness of youth
by this time, would not have made the composition as foot-tapping
as it now is.
Before I face the wrath of the RAFIans, I urge them to remember that
singers do get old and they do go downhill. One word - Lata.
-Prince
>K Vijay Kumar (vijay...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>: While I agree with the statement "Rafi suits Rishi" overall, there is
>: one Kishore song in which I can't help appreciating how appropriate he
>: sounds for Rishi. He actually seems to change his voice for that.
>: The song? "bachana ae hasiino.N lo mai.N aa gaya"
>K Vijay Kumar (vijay...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>: While I agree with the statement "Rafi suits Rishi" overall, there is
>: one Kishore song in which I can't help appreciating how appropriate he
>: sounds for Rishi. He actually seems to change his voice for that.
>: The song? "bachana ae hasiino.N lo mai.N aa gaya"
>: Hear that and try it for suitability.
isnt "bachana ae hasino...lo main aa gaya" from yaaraana? picturised on
bachchan? the first stage song in the movie? not sure but its afair.
also...one song which rafi kills while singing for rishi and should have gone to
kishore's bulund(now that is a voice that can be called bulund!) voice
was..."dard-e-dil...dard-e-jigar..." from karz.
--
Neha (i remain a rafian!...one "dard-e-dil.." doesnt change that)
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kahey koi kuchh bhi, magar sach yahi hai...
lehar pyaar ki jo kahin utth rahi hai...
usey ek din to kinare milenge...
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>also...one song which rafi kills while singing for rishi and should have gone to
>kishore's bulund(now that is a voice that can be called bulund!) voice
>was..."dard-e-dil...dard-e-jigar..." from karz.
>
>--
>Neha (i remain a rafian!...one "dard-e-dil.." doesnt change that)
Yes Neha, contrary to what the FOOLS (Fans Of Other Lallu Singers) say,
Rafianism is very democratic and tolerant from within. BTW, note that
it's not OTHERS. The all-caps version is to be used in the Pradeep Dubey
sense of the word. I have used a not-all-caps version 'Others' which refers
not to the poets, but to singers apart from Rafi and KK, like ... anyway.
Point is, we do not defend the old voice of Rafi.
After all, all we claim is Rafi in his prime is the greatest singer ever.
And of course, no need to say it, but still ... we do not say this because
we are Rafians, but we are Rafians because he was the greatest. That's
our "Axiom of Choice".
- Abhay.
Since the idea has been accepted, I have not bothered to put the
smilies. Humour-impaired should ignore this post and see a
psycho-therapist.
(Can someone please come up with a short form for this disclaimer ?
It would save a lot of typing trouble.)
In article <5vrpd4$3o...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, pri...@viman.engr.sgi.com says...
>Before I face the wrath of the RAFIans, I urge them to remember that
>singers do get old and they do go downhill. One word - Lata.
I agree with Prince. Rafi in 70's defintely sounded jaded and tired in most
of the songs, just like Lata in 80's and 90's.
Coming to KK ( sorry couldn't resist ) after his heart attack in 1980 he also
sounded like a 80 year old Bhudda. Since the thread relates to Rishi Kapoor
check for this song from yeh wada raha (1982) - "meine tujhe sabhi kuch kaha"
a KK-Asha duet in which KK sounded atrociously old. Also in the song
"Sagar Kinare dil ye pukara " from Sagar (1985) , KK song picturised on Rishi
he sounded like father of Rishi Kappor.
Now I feel much better.
-- RaviK.
Ikram Ahmed Khan <iak...@bigfoot.com> writes:
|> Prince wrote:
|> > Not as far as I can make out. What I have always found
|> > interesting about the song (and some others of the same
|> > class) is the allocation of singers to actors/actresses.
|> > In this instance, Rishi gets Rafi, Amitabh gets Kishore,
|> > and Vinod Khanna gets Mukesh. And for the life of me, I
|> > cannot fault that judgement :-)
|>
|> When & how did the idea of 'faultin' the judgement' enter your
|> mind?? :) Don't like LP?? :)
That was my way of saying that I totally agree with the MD's
judgement in this case :-)
|> Offhand, I wasn't able to recall a Mukesh song for RishiK.
|> Mukesh has sung some fairly nice songs for Amitabh. KabhiKabhie
|> comes to mind almost immediately. I wouldn't fault the choice
|> of Mukesh for Amitabh in those songs. :) Do you? :)
I do. The kabhi-2 songs are nice, no doubt. However, whenever
I watch the picturization on Amitabh, I get this feeling of
being in two worlds at the same time. One in which Amitabh is
emoting and the other in which Mukesh is singing, and never do
the two comfortably reconcile.
Before someone misunderstands me, let me reiterate that I like
the song in Mukesh's voice and I believe he has done a good job.
However, the screen presence does not suit the voice somehow.
|> >Similarly, Rafi, whose
|> >voice was failing by this time, somehow fails to capture
|>
|> This is where I feel like becoming the Prince of a time not
|> so long ago, and bemoan rmim for its fall from grace. Oh,
How do people draw these inferences? Since Rafi grew old and
his voice lost its luster, is it in some way insulting to the
RAFIans?
|> where are the Rafians to take up the beeDa of refuting
|> this heinous allegation? :) Not *one* of the Rafians has, for
|> instance, mentioned that an elephant is renowned for his delicate
|> use of his trunk. Almost all programs on elephants for the
I totally lost you on that analogy, Ikram :-)
|> Coming back to Amar Akbar Anthony, some other Rafi songs
|> in this movie are:
|>
|> Parda hai Parda
|> Tayyeb Ali, pyaar ka dushman hai-hai
|> Shirdi waale Sai baba, aaya hai tere dar pe sawaalii
|>
|> Let me throw this back into Prince's court {nice pun(t), wot? :) }
|> and ask him why he feels that none of these songs are "buland"?? :)
You are putting words in my mouth, and incorrect ones at that :-)
I did not say that Rafi could not sing "buland" songs - I said
that his voice did not suit Amitabh's "buland" personality in the
movie. Regarding the songs above, if any one of them had been
picturized on AB, it would not have appealed as much as it does
now. Somehow, KK has always seemed to me a better match for AB
in Rafi's later years.
Also, one reason that the songs you point out are enjoyable is
not necessarily because they are "buland" (though I think that
the "shirdi" song is, to use Anup's expression, "thakaa hua" -
the other two are quite nice) but because Rishi Kapoor is one of
the best male actors in a song situation. (This has been pointed
out earlier also by someone on rmim.) He brings more life to the
run-around-the-trees, look-spaniel-eyed-at-heroine, jump&roll
sequences than most others, and that was esp. true for the first
two songs you mention above. I don't think AB or Vinod Khanna
could have as much fun in the song as Rishi seems to be having.
-Prince
Greatest _male_ singer ever, I am sure you meant to say. Else
Neha will be the first to bolt the RAFIans club :-)
|> Since the idea has been accepted, I have not bothered to put the
|> smilies. Humour-impaired should ignore this post and see a
|> psycho-therapist.
|> (Can someone please come up with a short form for this disclaimer ?
|> It would save a lot of typing trouble.)
What about
#include <std_smilies.h>
-Prince
#include <std_smilies.h>
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>
> Since the idea has been accepted, I have not bothered to put the
> smilies. Humour-impaired should ignore this post and see a
> psycho-therapist.
I personally would prefer to see smilies (even if they are not meant :) )
instead of this long disclaimer everytime :)
Cheers,
Kalyan, Not a fan of smilies but ....
Although everyone seems to agree that Rafi saab suited Rishi, i beg to
differ. IMHO Kishore was the ideal singer for Rishi. First some examples.
Let me cite "Yeh Vaada Raha" (RDB). The first song in the film is
awesome. KIshore starts Suneeta Suneeta Suneeta.... There is a
dialouge between him and Rakesh Bedi and then "THAT" voice takes over
with "Aisa kabhi huaa nahin". Badly picturized in some senses but Poonam looks
awesome. The next song from the same film is the title number and
boy o boy Kishore is just too good in it. Another example is "Om Shanti Om"
from "KArz". It was sung with so much enthu and jelled totally with the
character of Monty (played by Rishi).
The question of who suited Rishi more needs to be examined more from the
loyality point of view of the filommakers. Now when Rishi worked with Ravi
Tandon in "Khel Khle Mein" it was Kishore all the way but when Nasir
Hussain took him it was Rafi who dominates the soundtack (except for
Zamaane Ko dikhaana hai released in 1982 and Nasir's first flop since
the "Tumsa Nahin Dekha days). Similarly when Rishi stars in Ramesh Bahl's
"Yeh Vaada Raha" it is once again Kishore because of RDB.
Coming to Manmohan Desai. Now MKD always was a Rafi fan. His "Coolie"
was dedicated to the memory of RAfi saab. Also Kishore and MKD had a
tiff and MKD avoided him till "Toofan" where the great patch up took place
and Kishore sang "Aaya Aaya Toofan, bhaaga bhaaga Shaitan".
As an artiste Rishi has mostly played energetic characters. Seldom does he
play the looser and he is not good at loosing on the screen. Youngster's
in the '70s identified with Rishi and with Kishore's voice hence IMHO Kishore
was the natural choice for Rishi. RAfi saab was used because he was Rafi
saab and because he had a better equation with some filmmakers's and
MD's with whom Rishi worked (this applies to every person in the industry). Such
a thing happens regularly in the
industry. (A recent example is Udit singing as a regular for Aamir.)
Before we make statements like Rafi suited Rishi let us look at all these
aspects than simply citing examples. Rishi is one of the lucky few who has
fair amounts of songs sung by Rafi and Kishore. Aise naseeb aaj kiske hain!
regards
Anand ( a Kishore Kumar fan, forever)
>I watch the picturization on Amitabh, I get this feeling of
>being in two worlds at the same time. One in which Amitabh is
>emoting and the other in which Mukesh is singing, and never do
>the two comfortably reconcile.
I would disagree. Amitabh plays a dour, sacrifice-loving,
enema-needing, look-what-she-did-to-me type of personality
in Kabhi Kabhie. Just the type of "heroes" Mukesh was chosen for.
>the other two are quite nice) but because Rishi Kapoor is one of
>the best male actors in a song situation. (This has been pointed
>out earlier also by someone on rmim.) He brings more life to the
>run-around-the-trees, look-spaniel-eyed-at-heroine, jump&roll
>sequences than most others, and that was esp. true for the first
Have you seen him in his later movies? He looks like
he would have an easier time caressing his own paunch than
lusting and panting after the heroines, who are young enough
to be his nieces.
Veena
It is neither Mukesh nor his son. This song has the voice of Kamlesh
Avasthi. I am 100% sure.
--
Best Regards,
Kuntal. ( kun...@india.ti.com )
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I agree with you.
>IMHO Kishore was the ideal singer for Rishi.
Here, I part company with you!
> First some examples.
>
>Before we make statements like Rafi suited Rishi let us look at all these
>aspects than simply citing examples. Rishi is one of the lucky few who has
>fair amounts of songs sung by Rafi and Kishore. Aise naseeb aaj kiske hain!
>
>regards
> Anand ( a Kishore Kumar fan, forever)
Looking at other aspects is a great idea, but it is really irrelevant who
the favourite singer of the producer is; noting it might explain the choice,
but it hardly makes it right.
Why not look at other options? Rafi and Kishore aren't the end of the
world. Rafi was pretty bad well before Rishi showed up and Kihsore got
that way within 6-7 years. I suggest you examine the following proposition:
The most suitable playback voice for Rishi was Shailendra Singh.
Ashok
Among other singers, I feel Kishore did a very good job on Sanjeev
Kumar in the 'Aandhi' songs, and of course he was great for Rajesh
Khanna and Amitabh. Lataji of course needs no mention. She has sung for
each and every actress and done a wonderful job on each. Among recent
singers, one song I've found where the singer fits totally on the
actress is :"Kya tumne hai keh diya.." from 'Saaz'. Here, it's hard to
believe that it's Kavita and not Shabana who is singing the song. Then,
Udit Narayan suits Amir Khan perfectly.
> - Abhay.
> Rafi = The ultimate choice for the perfect fit.
Fully agree to that one.
Abhishek.