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Ashok

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Apr 22, 2005, 1:12:05 AM4/22/05
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I'm trying to take stock of the nonfilm Hindi songs sung by
Pankaj Mullick. Listed below are the ones I know. I'd
appreciate RMIMers writing about others they know of. Of
course, any P-statistical information would be great.

A few of the songs in the list are from a 90-minute cassette
titled "SD Burman Sings, Pankaj Mullick Sings", with non-
existent documentation. I saw it with a friend and promptly
got meself a copy. Not sure whether he bought it like that
or juxtaposed two different cassettes. All this is preamble
to the request that, if you suspect that a track might not
be by Pankaj Mullick, do speak up! Likewise if you know
that any of them is a film song.

01. aa re bulabul tuu bhii aa
mai.n bhii gaa_uu.N tuu bhii gaa

02. aaKhir, vo din aayaa aaj
jis kaa rasataa takataa thaa

03. aashaa ne khel rachaayaa
(Lyrics: Pandit Bhushan)

04. chho.D musaafir maayaanagar ab premanagar ko jaanaa hai
(Bhajan)

05. ho gayaa dil aur aa.Nkh me.n jhaga.Daa
dil ko churaa gayaa paradeshii, merii (?) aa.Nkh ne paka.Daa
(Geet; lyrics by Pandit BC Madhur)

06. jab chaa.Nd meraa nikalaa, chhaa_ii.n thii ghaTaae.n

07. jise merii yaad naa aae
dil naa use bhulaae

08. man kii pyaas miTaa ke jaa
rote nain ha.Nsaa ke jaa

09. mai.n ne aaj piyaa hoTho.n kaa pyaalaa
(Geet)

10. mai.n rotaa huu.N, mat manaa karo
(Geet)

11. mere haThiile shyaam
(Lyrics: Pandit BC Madhur)

12. praaN chaahe nain na chaahe
(Geet)

13. prem bel me.n phuul na patte

14. tere ma.ndhir kaa huu.N diipak jal rahaa
(Bhajan)

15. yaad aae ke naa aae tumhaarii
mai.n tum ko bhuul na jaa_uu.N
(Based on Rabindra Sangeet
"mane rabe ki naa rabe aamaare")

16. ye raate.n ye mausam ye ha.Nsanaa ha.Nsaanaa

The last song in the tape mentioned above was a nice
ghazal by a singer who is certainly not Pankaj Mullick
(or SD Burman). Does anyone know anything about it?
The opeining lines are:


. muhabbat jab sukuun-e-zi.dagii barabaad karatii hai
to lab Khaamosh rahate hai.n, nazar fariyaad karatii hai

Ashok

Surjit Singh

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Apr 22, 2005, 1:52:33 AM4/22/05
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Ashok wrote:

> I'm trying to take stock of the nonfilm Hindi songs sung by
> Pankaj Mullick. Listed below are the ones I know. I'd
> appreciate RMIMers writing about others they know of. Of
> course, any P-statistical information would be great.
>
> A few of the songs in the list are from a 90-minute cassette
> titled "SD Burman Sings, Pankaj Mullick Sings", with non-
> existent documentation. I saw it with a friend and promptly
> got meself a copy. Not sure whether he bought it like that
> or juxtaposed two different cassettes. All this is preamble
> to the request that, if you suspect that a track might not
> be by Pankaj Mullick, do speak up! Likewise if you know
> that any of them is a film song.
>
> 01. aa re bulabul tuu bhii aa
> mai.n bhii gaa_uu.N tuu bhii gaa
>
> 02. aaKhir, vo din aayaa aaj
> jis kaa rasataa takataa thaa

Could be Dharatimata 1938.

--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html

Kamalakar Pasupuleti

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Apr 22, 2005, 8:36:36 AM4/22/05
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"Ashok" <adhareshwar@gNO_SPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to take stock of the nonfilm Hindi songs sung by
> Pankaj Mullick. Listed below are the ones I know. I'd
> appreciate RMIMers writing about others they know of. Of
> course, any P-statistical information would be great.

> Ashok


1. naakar itna pyar panchi

2. Yun dard bhare dilki

Atleast 2-3 are missing from my collection .

- kp


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jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 22, 2005, 10:21:24 AM4/22/05
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You can add
PAWAN CHALE JOR LEHER MACHAYE SHOR (Based on Rabindra Sangeet-Khara Bayu
Boy Bege)
to the list.
Jyoti Prakash Guha

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Apr 22, 2005, 12:52:38 PM4/22/05
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Isn't this from the 1952 Dev Anand movie 'Zalzala'?

-Prithviraj

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Apr 22, 2005, 3:20:58 PM4/22/05
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(Based on Rabindrasangeet "praaN chaay
chakshhu naa chaay")

> 13. prem bel me.n phuul na patte
>
> 14. tere ma.ndhir kaa huu.N diipak jal rahaa
> (Bhajan)
>
> 15. yaad aae ke naa aae tumhaarii
> mai.n tum ko bhuul na jaa_uu.N
> (Based on Rabindra Sangeet
> "mane rabe ki naa rabe aamaare")
>
> 16. ye raate.n ye mausam ye ha.Nsanaa ha.Nsaanaa
>
>

#3-6, #9-14, #16 have been released by HMV on different
LP-s and more recently on a CD titled "Golden Collection
- PM". #15 used to be on Bhule Bisre Geet, and its surely
PM.

On a related note, a popular bhajan of PM in the 40s was
'tuu dhuu.NDhataa hai jisako'. He even used to teach this
song on AIR's "sa.ngiit shikshhaa" programme. But he got
Dhananjay Bhattacharyya to record this song for the movie
'Yatrik'(1951). In the films division documentary on him,
PM sings this song partially with his daughter. I guess he
never recorded this song on disc and AIR archives might be
only source for this song in his voice.

-Prithviraj

(snipped)

kantid...@aol.com

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Apr 22, 2005, 6:22:46 PM4/22/05
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EMI CD PMLP 5390 PIYA MILAN KO JANA, Hits by Pankaj Mullick has 17
tracks (film and non-film)

Piya Milan Ko Jana 1939 film Kapalkundala.
Chale Pawan Ki Chaal, Aai Bahar Aaj, Mahak Rahi Phulawari, Aaj Apani
Mahenataka and Guzar Gaya Woh Zamana 41 film Doctor.
Yeh Kaun Aaj Aaya, Madabhari Rut Jawan Hai, Prem Ka Nata Choota 40 film
Nartaki.
Ho Gaya Dil Aur Aankh Mein, Maine Aaj Piya, Yeh Raaten Yeh Mausam, Pran
Chahe Naina Na Chahe and Main Rota Hoon Geets.
Kaun Desh Hai Jana 37 film Mukti
Chhod Musafir Maya Nagar and Tere Mandir Ka Hoon Bhajans

Are there any other CDs by PM?

Best Wishes,

Kanti Dattani

maild...@yahoo.com

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Apr 23, 2005, 10:12:31 AM4/23/05
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Notes added for songs, which I am aware of


Sudhir

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Subject: Pankaj Mullick: The Hindi Nonfilm Songs


01. aa re bulabul tuu bhii aa
mai.n bhii gaa_uu.N tuu bhii gaa


02. aaKhir, vo din aayaa aaj
jis kaa rasataa takataa thaa

>>>> Don't have these 2 songs


03. aashaa ne khel rachaayaa
(Lyrics: Pandit Bhushan)

04. chho.D musaafir maayaanagar ab premanagar ko jaanaa hai
(Bhajan)

don't have addl info


05. ho gayaa dil aur aa.Nkh me.n jhaga.Daa
dil ko churaa gayaa paradeshii, merii (?) aa.Nkh ne paka.Daa
(Geet; lyrics by Pandit BC Madhur)

Lyrics credit: correct


06. jab chaa.Nd meraa nikalaa, chhaa_ii.n thii ghaTaae.n

Lyrics: Faiyyaz Hashmi (most prbably)

Additional Credit: F. Casanovas &
his Orchestra

07. jise merii yaad naa aae
dil naa use bhulaae

Lyrics: Faiyyaz Hashmi

Additional Credit: F. Casanovas &
his Orchestra

08. man kii pyaas miTaa ke jaa
rote nain ha.Nsaa ke jaa

>>>> Don't have this song


09. mai.n ne aaj piyaa hoTho.n kaa pyaalaa
(Geet)

Don't have any addl. info


10. mai.n rotaa huu.N, mat manaa karo
(Geet)

Don't have any addl info

11. mere haThiile shyaam
(Lyrics: Pandit BC Madhur)

Generally spelled as: B.C. 'Madhir'

12. praaN chaahe nain na chaahe
(Geet)

Additional Credit: F. Casanovas &
his Orchestra

Original Composition by: Rabindra Nath
Tagore / Pran Chaye Chokkhu / Bengali version
was recorded by: Ashoketaru Bannerjee / Year ?


13. prem bel me.n phuul na patte

Don't have any addl info


14. tere ma.ndhir kaa huu.N diipak jal rahaa
(Bhajan)

Lyrics: Pandit B.C. 'Madhur'


15. yaad aae ke naa aae tumhaarii
mai.n tum ko bhuul na jaa_uu.N
(Based on Rabindra Sangeet
"mane rabe ki naa rabe aamaare")

Additional Credit: F. Casanovas &
his Orchestra

Mane Rabe ... by Hemant Kumar is easily
available

16. ye raate.n ye mausam ye ha.Nsanaa ha.Nsaanaa

Lyrics: Faiyyaz Hashmi

Added by: Mr. Kamalakar Pasupuleti
===========================

17 naakar itna pyar panchi

No Additional info available


18 . Yun dard bhare dilki

>>>> Don't have this song

Added by Mr. Guha
==============

19 PAWAN CHALE JOR LEHER MACHAYE SHOR


(Based on Rabindra Sangeet-Khara Bayu Boy Bege)

Don't have this song

jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 23, 2005, 11:47:53 AM4/23/05
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Sorry. My mistake. "CHALE PAWAN KI CHAL" is indeed from ZALZALA (1952). In
fact the first song in the film.
Have anyone heard a solo version of the song? My memory fails but I
faintly remember having heard. In the film it was a chorus led by Pankaj
Mallick.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.

Pankaj

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Apr 23, 2005, 5:30:52 PM4/23/05
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ANother one from Zalzala is "Jeevan Naiya Behati Jaye Haiyo Haiyo Haiyo

Pankaj
"Prithviraj Dasgupta" <prith...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pankaj

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Apr 23, 2005, 5:34:33 PM4/23/05
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Couple of other Non Filmi songs are
Duniyadari Chhod De Manava
and
Prem Belme Phool Na Patte Na Phal Isame Aye.

Pankaj

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Apr 23, 2005, 10:22:28 PM4/23/05
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ADD-ON REMARKS
=================

One may consider adding the 3 songs from My Sister (Meri Bahen - 1944)
, as Semi-NonFilm or Semi-Film


In the film and on the corresponding 78 rpm records, the songs were
rendered by Saigal.

The songs are:

Ae Qatib-e-Taqdeer

Do Naina Matware

Chhupo No x 3, O Pyari Sajaniya


Sudhir

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Apr 23, 2005, 10:23:41 PM4/23/05
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jyotiprakasguha wrote:
> Sorry. My mistake. "CHALE PAWAN KI CHAL" is indeed from ZALZALA
(1952). In
> fact the first song in the film.

Seems you confused the song from "Zalzala"(pawan chale zor) with a
similar
worded song from "Doctor" above.

> Have anyone heard a solo version of the song? My memory fails but I
> faintly remember having heard. In the film it was a chorus led by
Pankaj
> Mallick.

Zalzala songs recently released by HMV feature the PM+chorus version.

-Prithviraj

> Jyoti Prakash Guha.

Satish Kalra

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Apr 24, 2005, 8:29:05 AM4/24/05
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"Prithviraj Dasgupta" <prith...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Which compilation? I do have two Zalzala songs (by PM & chorus), but both
from 78rpm sources, and with a lot of hissing and static. I would love to
have all songs of Zalzala, preferably a good recording. But maybe that's
asking too much of the Ramu Diwana & Co. :)

BTW, has anyone seen the VHS/VCD of Zalzala in the market - anywhere - in
India or the US? I saw the film at the Rabindra Rangshala (open air
amphitheter) in New Delhi in 1976 or so, amid a very noisy crowd and could
not really enjoy the film. Any pointers would be welcome.


--
Happy Listenings.

Satish Kalra


kcp

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Apr 24, 2005, 10:07:34 AM4/24/05
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I have Yeh Raaten Yeh Mousam (Geet) and its certainly by Pankaj
Mullick.

BTW No 6 & No 12 have a note in my dbase that the song also has "F.
Casanovas & his orchestra" mentioned...more details on this please...

IIRC these songs were released by HMV in 1962

KCP

jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 24, 2005, 11:13:08 AM4/24/05
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Thanks . I will try to collect.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.

jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 24, 2005, 11:27:18 AM4/24/05
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PRAN CHAHE NAINA NA CHAHE-is Hindi version of a Rabindra Sangeet PRAN CHAY
CHOKHHU NA CHASY. So the tune here is by Rabindranath Tagore. Kanan Devi
was the first to record this song in Bengali for the film Parajay(Music
Director: RCBoral).
JAB CHAND MERA NIKLA and PRAN CHAHE... has orchestra by F.Cassanovas and
party.
My personal feeling is that for both the songs this type of orchestra has
been a misfit with the spirit of the songs. The prelude to Kanan devi's
Bengali song to me was better.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.

maild...@yahoo.com

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Apr 25, 2005, 1:38:31 AM4/25/05
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Mr Guha:


I totally disagree with you on desirability of song: Pran Chahe Nain
Na Chahe

It has been my (and for that matter, for very large number of
listeners) a favorite song for decades. For me the lyrics don't mean
a thing. They were patched
together to fit the tune. Even after listening to them for 100 times,
I can not
figure out what the story is (a la: Gulzar - Shishe Ki Haweli,
Paththar
Gharonde and other contruction materials)

It is Mr. Mullick's superb rendering and excellent orchestra, which has
made this
song so desirable.

I have the Bengali version (sung by Ashoketaru). It is a marginal
song, even for
Bengali music lovers (I got this song from my friend, 'Suno Suno' Ms
Chatterjee)


Sudhir


Other Items
=========

Since the film songs have also been discussed, I would like to
include
the song from: DHARTIMATA / Duniya Rang Rangili Baba


Excellent song. Generally available on Saigal's compilations (but not
on Pankaj
Mullick's CDs / LPs)


Q for Mr. DasGupta
===============

Can you please give the title of the Tape / CD etc on which ZALZALA's
song was released. Thanks


YATRIK's Song
=============

Tu Dhoondata Hai Jis Ko, was released by HMV on 2 LP (& 2 Tape) set /
Playback 50 years - Volume 2 or so. Ramu Diwana & Co had removed
the
3rd para. I have the complete 78 rpm version, but the source record
was
extremely worn out and the recording is unlistenable. Would like to
get
a copy from a clean-record. Thanks.


Sudhir


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Kamalakar Pasupuleti

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> Thanks . I will try to collect.
> Jyoti Prakash Guha.

On another note did moestro Kamal Das-gupta compose any songs
based on Rabindra Sangeet ? if so can someone help me identify
a few of them .

Thanks ,

jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 25, 2005, 11:27:17 AM4/25/05
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I do not think so. It was Pankaj Mallick who started using Rabindranath's
tunes with Hindi lyrics. Hemanta Mukherjee, Sachin Dev Burman has also
done the same. Generally the lyrics used to be translated from Bengali. In
Afsar (?1950), SDB used SEDIN DUJANE tune with lyrics different in
meaning.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.

jyotiprakasguha

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Apr 25, 2005, 11:41:39 AM4/25/05
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Sir,
I gave my impression. Not that I do not like the songs-in fact almost
every song of Pankaj Mallick is a favourite of mine. I still feel the
usual instrumental decoration would give a better flavour to the songs.
Ashoketaru Banerjee-he has a good number of fans and I dont intend to
disrespect them or the singer himself-has always been a second grade
artiste. He sang Rabindra-Sangeet only and has never been at the same
level as Pankaj, Hemanta, Kanika Banerjee, Suchitra Mitra, Subinoy Roy,
Debabrata Biswas in this field.
Regarding DUNIYA RANG RANGILI BABA-it remains my top favourite also.
Pankaj's portion in the record was sung by KCDey in the film. You must be
knowing that.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.
Jyoti Prakash Guha.

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Apr 25, 2005, 12:30:35 PM4/25/05
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Satish Kalra wrote:
(snipped)

> > Zalzala songs recently released by HMV feature the PM+chorus
version.
> >
> > -Prithviraj
>
> Which compilation? I do have two Zalzala songs (by PM & chorus), but
both
> from 78rpm sources, and with a lot of hissing and static. I would
love to
> have all songs of Zalzala, preferably a good recording. But maybe
that's
> asking too much of the Ramu Diwana & Co. :)

Songs of Zalzala(7 songs) are available through hamaracd.com.
I'm not sure if what hamaracd has is the entire soundtrack
for the movie.

-Prithviraj

naniwadekar

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"jyotiprakasguha" wrote :

>
> My personal feeling is that for both the songs this
> type of orchestra has
> been a misfit with the spirit of the songs.
>

Like Shri Sudhir Kakar, I feel that the orchestra has
contributed to the beauty of Pankaj Mullick's rendition
of 'praan chaahe'. But the case for Mullick having used
devices ill-fitting to the spirit of Indian music has been
made in much wider terms and by a respected authority.
I would have liked more leisure to discuss the topic, but
against my better instinct, I am giving in to the impulse
of broaching the topic which I wanted to save for a later
date. I will post details of the criticism directed at Mullick
later. In the meantime, readers are encouraged to draw
their list of earliest villains of Indian Music. Some might
think of Shankar-Jaikishan, some might argue that Indian
music was doomed the day Mohd Rafi entered a recording
studio. These answers make solid sense; but looking
for still-earlier villains is more interesting.

Around 1940, Govindrao Tembe had ranted against
Bengali music. He might have had a point against Bengal
in the classical field. But I reject outright his criticism of
Bengali film music of that era. Bengal had easily outshone film
music from Maharashtra and Punjab in 1930s. But
Tembe never got the hang of the trends in film music. I am
not sure how much pains he took to hear the music which
he was ranting against. He names no names but shoots off
all barrels. He was a scholarly writer on music but 1930s
music passed him by. However, there was another name
who knew that period's music well and found faults with
certain trends. Was he being perceptive, seeing thing which
others have missed to this day? I don't know. All in good
time; stay tuned.


- dn

Afzal A. Khan

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Apr 27, 2005, 12:51:56 PM4/27/05
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Most of us (I daresay) are quite unfamiliar with the
writings and views of Govindrao Tembe. I would suggest
that some more details (and/or quotes) may be provided
for information and subsequent discussion.

Afzal

Surjit Singh

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Apr 27, 2005, 1:32:44 PM4/27/05
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My 2 cents:

In non-films, you can do whatever you want.

In film songs, which are supposedly an integral part of the story and
screenplay, I can tolterate a western orchestra only if the situation
needed it, e.g. in western clubs, foreign cities etc.

I admire Raj Kapoor, e.g. in a movie he a plays a western tune on a
violin (much less use the whole orchestra!) and when Nargis asks him he
explains that he heard it in a club!

Quiz: Name that movie? Name that tune?

> Jyoti Prakash Guha.
>

Surjit Singh

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Apr 29, 2005, 7:28:04 PM4/29/05
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Surjit Singh wrote:

The violin piece that Raj Kapoor plays in the movie is
"Anniversary Song" from The Jolson Story (1946).

Which movie?

>> Jyoti Prakash Guha.
>>
>

Satish Kalra

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The same film in which Nargis calls the instrument a "Sitaar", not a violin!
:) The tune is just living and dying in the same place.

maild...@yahoo.com

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May 2, 2005, 3:38:33 AM5/2/05
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If I can find my long-last umbrella, I may be able to answer this quiz.
Menwhile,
I am just scratching my head.


Sudhir


P.S.: My younger brother did not get lost at a 'Mela', because my
family
never visited one. Why take a chance !

surjit singh

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maild...@yahoo.com wrote:
> If I can find my long-last umbrella, I may be able to answer this
quiz.

Barsat (1949).

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