Anand Milind
piyush r bhagat
the heck I will still go ahead and do it..maybe someone out there will actually
agree with my point.
Never before on this newgroup have I seen the new MD's presented in a positive
way. And I am not blaming anybody because none of them have done anything to
deserve so.
I think that Anand-Milind in the past year have done a fairly good job.
Songs such as 'Channe Ke Khet Mein' (Anjaam), 'A aa ee' (Raja Babu),
and 'Kore Kagaz Pe Likhwa De' (Pehla Pehla Pyar) were really good.
Also the composition of the songs from 'Suhaag' were something worth
talking about. Yeah yeah I know 'Tere Liye Janam' is a straight lift from
the whiz kid, A.R.Rehman's Roja, but what about the rest of the songs. Lets
not dismiss the whole album because of one song. 'Gore gore mukhade pe',
'Pyar pyar pyar', and the best one 'Maine Dekhu Tuje, Tum Na Dekho (this
one not in the movie) were some of the best I have heard.
This article is not an attempt to compare Anand-Milind with music directors
from the past such as Nausad, Shankar JaiKishen, S. D. Burman, R.D.Burman, or
any other legendary music directors. I am just saying that they are not given
a fair shake.
About lifting tunes, I think its the producers who are to be blamed...
In the Jan. 1995 issue of Filmfare in an interview with Rakesh Roshan,
Roshan stated 'Nowadays 90 per cent of the producers move around with audio
cassettes of South films. Imagine the cheek! Recently a producer wanted me
to copy the songs of Roja. I try to avoid such producers. But I was helpless
when the Time Video guys insisted on the Mukabala song (From Kaadhalan).'
It makes me wonder wheter Anand-Milind are lifting the tunes from the
South by choice or not?? In Suhaag 'Tere Liye Janam' was a straight lift
from Roja. Roja is so popular now a days...who in their right minds would
copy and hope to get away without anybody noticing.'
My point is that I think that today's MDs are talanted..they just need a
chance to express themselves....very seldom do u find a producer like
Mani Ratnam who lets the MD express himself.
Check out Anand-Milind's latest 'Angrakshak'. Its EXCELLENT!!
Piyush
Email: piy...@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu
gt5...@prism.gatech.edu
Go ahead flame me....I probably deserve it :):):)
Ramesh Hariharan
>the whiz kid, A.R.Rehman's Roja, but what about the rest of the songs. Lets
How old is Rehman ?
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Ramesh Hariharan, Princeton U.
All opinions expressed here are that of my Advisor, the Engineering dean,
the Chancelor and Princeton U. President..... NOT mine :-)
Amin Meghani
In article <1995Jan31.1...@Princeton.EDU>, hari...@tucson.princeton.edu (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
> In article <3gk5su$o...@dekalb.DC.PeachNet.EDU> piy...@dekalb.DC.PeachNet.EDU (piyush r bhagat) writes:
> >the whiz kid, A.R.Rehman's Roja, but what about the rest of the songs. Lets
>
>
> How old is Rehman ?
>
>
--Amin
Piyush Ramesh Bhagat
: Piyush wrote :
: No. I don't agree to the statement that Anand-Milind are not lifting
: the tunes by their choice, and it's the producers who are forcing them.
: Had that been the case their would have been total lack of originality
: and just blatant plagiarism in all the recent songs.
Well I disagree with that! I don't think that there would be 'total lack
of originality' because sometimes a producer may just want a certain song
in movie e.g. in Suhaag maybe the producer wanted the 'Roja' song but
gave MD the freedom to compose other songs.
: of the Roja tunes. But sometimes they think they can. Here is an
: example. Listen to "amma dekh" carefully. (I hope it's Anand-Milind,
: else I am biting my own hand :-) ). Now after the first stanza or
: whatever, their is a piece of Shehnai. Can everybody make out, from
: where it has been lifted ? I guess not, at least the general public.
The MD for 'amma dekh' is Nadeem-Shravan. But yeah I see your point!
: But we RMIMers know better :-) It's a straight lift from a tune by
: no less than C.Ramachandra, my Melody King !! Yes, it's from Navarang !
: : My point is that I think that today's MDs are talanted..they just need a
: : chance to express themselves....very seldom do u find a producer like
: : Mani Ratnam who lets the MD express himself.
: No. Frankly these MD's are nowhere near the "talent"s of the legendery
: composers. But I still have some hopes from Jatin-Lalit, or Tushar
: Bhatia. Perhaps Anu Malik too. But just hope, no guarantee :-(
You are right - todays MDs are nowhere near the legendary composers.
But the point that I was trying to make is that I don't think that
todays MDs are *completely* full of crap - just a bit maybe :):)
What I mean to say is that even Anand Milind must have some talent if
they are capable of composing songs such as
'Kahi To Milegi Mohabat Ki Manzil' form 'Milan'
'Aayega Aayega Bichada Yaar Hamara' from 'Jaguruti'
'O Rabba Koi to Batai' from 'Sangeet'
If I were you I would hope too much from Jatin-Lalit because they
too *copy* from oldies such as R.D. Burman and S.D. Burman.
Piyush
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Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Janaki Shah
I am new to this group and I was wondering that how much would a
set of 10 tapes of CDs like KKs "Anmol Ratan" would cost?? Could someone
please tell me about this?? And also if there are any more sets like that
out there...for e.g. R.D. Burman ...etc..
Thanx in advance,,
-Jannu
Sandip Sanghvi
>: Bhatia. Perhaps Anu Malik too. But just hope, no guarantee :-(
With songs Like Aja meri gadi me beth ja and other
crappy songs, i wouldn't bet on him!!
>
> 'Kahi To Milegi Mohabat Ki Manzil' form 'Milan'
Is it my Imagination, or does it sound like
'Zindgi ka Safar Hai ek aisa safar'
>If I were you I would hope too much from Jatin-Lalit because they
>too *copy* from oldies such as R.D. Burman and S.D. Burman.
May be, but not as much as NS, Anu M, or AM!!
>
>Piyush
>
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>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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I think Anand Milind do have a tendency of lifting tunes. The classic
example is the song Ghuma Galiyon mein ghuma from movie Baagi. The original
is from the Mani Ratnam movie Agni Nakhshatram in Tamil. The movie was
then copied in to hindi by the name of Waansh.
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Mihir Desai
|>
|> IMO, Anand-Milind are worse than Copy Lehri. They are plain shameless.
|>
Wrong, no one can be as shameless as Bappi (the fat slob with no credibility)
Lahiri. The Roja tune that AM ripped off sounded good, but when Bappi rips off
a tune it usually comes out as complete nonsense. He can't even copy tunes
and make them sound OK.
I actually blame him for almost single-handedly destroying the Hindi film
music in the 80's. Thank God for the new MD's bringing in tunes that are though
ripped off sound pleasant.
|>
|> - Abhay.
Mihir Desai.
The Modem Wizard
: Piyush wrote :
: : <deleted>
: : About lifting tunes, I think its the producers who are to be blamed...
: : <deleted>
: : It makes me wonder wheter Anand-Milind are lifting the tunes from the
: : South by choice or not?? In Suhaag 'Tere Liye Janam' was a straight lift
: : from Roja. Roja is so popular now a days...who in their right minds would
: : copy and hope to get away without anybody noticing.'
: No. I don't agree to the statement that Anand-Milind are not lifting
: the tunes by their choice, and it's the producers who are forcing them.
: Had that been the case their would have been total lack of originality
: and just blatant plagiarism in all the recent songs.
: It may be possible, that they knew, they won't get away with lifting
: of the Roja tunes. But sometimes they think they can. Here is an
: example. Listen to "amma dekh" carefully. (I hope it's Anand-Milind,
: else I am biting my own hand :-) ). Now after the first stanza or
: whatever, their is a piece of Shehnai. Can everybody make out, from
: where it has been lifted ? I guess not, at least the general public.
The Amma Dekh copy was from the movie 'Stuntman', and was a
Nadeem-Sharavan job, not Anand-Miland's. It really bothers me when MDs
blatantly copy other people's work, and deny it altogether. A good
example is 'Tu Cheez Badi Hai Mast' which was an exact copy of a Fateh
Ali Khan superhit. Viju Shah denied that he ever copied the song, but
anyone can tell that it's a copy. How can Indian tape company cry piracy
when people on the streets sell bootleg cassettes when they are not
paying a cent in royalities for MDs copying Fateh Ali Khan, Vital Signs,
Ilyaraja, or AR Rahman?????
-Samir
The Modem Wizard
: I know that posting of this article will bring forth a lot of flames but what
: the heck I will still go ahead and do it..maybe someone out there will actually
: agree with my point.
: Never before on this newgroup have I seen the new MD's presented in a positive
: way. And I am not blaming anybody because none of them have done anything to
: deserve so.
: I think that Anand-Milind in the past year have done a fairly good job.
: Songs such as 'Channe Ke Khet Mein' (Anjaam), 'A aa ee' (Raja Babu),
: and 'Kore Kagaz Pe Likhwa De' (Pehla Pehla Pyar) were really good.
: Also the composition of the songs from 'Suhaag' were something worth
: talking about. Yeah yeah I know 'Tere Liye Janam' is a straight lift from
: the whiz kid, A.R.Rehman's Roja, but what about the rest of the songs. Lets
: not dismiss the whole album because of one song. 'Gore gore mukhade pe',
: 'Pyar pyar pyar', and the best one 'Maine Dekhu Tuje, Tum Na Dekho (this
: one not in the movie) were some of the best I have heard.
The 'Gore gore mukhade pe' is lifted from a common Bhangra melody, and the
'Shava, yeh nakra ladki ka' song is a straight lift from a Pakistani song (I think
Hassan Janghir).
: This article is not an attempt to compare Anand-Milind with music directors
: from the past such as Nausad, Shankar JaiKishen, S. D. Burman, R.D.Burman, or
: any other legendary music directors. I am just saying that they are not given
: a fair shake.
: About lifting tunes, I think its the producers who are to be blamed...
: In the Jan. 1995 issue of Filmfare in an interview with Rakesh Roshan,
: Roshan stated 'Nowadays 90 per cent of the producers move around with audio
: cassettes of South films. Imagine the cheek! Recently a producer wanted me
: to copy the songs of Roja. I try to avoid such producers. But I was helpless
: when the Time Video guys insisted on the Mukabala song (From Kaadhalan).'
: It makes me wonder wheter Anand-Milind are lifting the tunes from the
: South by choice or not?? In Suhaag 'Tere Liye Janam' was a straight lift
: from Roja. Roja is so popular now a days...who in their right minds would
: copy and hope to get away without anybody noticing.'
: My point is that I think that today's MDs are talanted..they just need a
: chance to express themselves....very seldom do u find a producer like
: Mani Ratnam who lets the MD express himself.
: Check out Anand-Milind's latest 'Angrakshak'. Its EXCELLENT!!
Anand Miland put Bappi Lahri to shame. They copy so much, I don't know
what they have written themselves! Most of their big hits have been the work of
others (ie: Dhak dhak from 'Beta' or O Piya Piya from 'Dil' or 'Tu tu tara' from
Bol Radha Bol, or 'Kasam Se' from QSQT or 'Na jane kahan dil ko gaya' from 'Dil')
I could go on and on..............they should have copyrights in India that put an
end to all this B.S.
-Samir
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