Chumma chumma de de
PariD
Wasn't their a rip-off copy with Sanjay Dutt and Madhuri? The words were
something like Tamma tamma de de. Was the word tamma, and if so what the
hell does it mean?
S.Jagadish
> Wasn't their a rip-off copy with Sanjay Dutt and Madhuri? The words were
> something like Tamma tamma de de. Was the word tamma, and if so what the
> hell does it mean?
Yeah ... but the original is an African song
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Rizwan M. Syed
>Wasn't their a rip-off copy with Sanjay Dutt and Madhuri? The words were
>something like Tamma tamma de de. Was the word tamma, and if so what the
>hell does it mean?
Yep, from the movie Thaanedaar, and I THINK it came out slightly before
the 'Jumma Chumma' movie. (was it 'HUM'?) The words WERE, 'Tamma Tamma
de do' I think, same beat though..
Rizwan
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4n1bf8$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pa...@aol.com (PariD)
writes:
> Wasn't their a rip-off copy with Sanjay Dutt and Madhuri? The words
> were something like Tamma tamma de de. Was the word tamma, and if
> so what the hell does it mean?
As was mentioned during the 'Naye Zamaane ke Geet' Chitrahaar,
the two songs created a (then) unique controversy about 'who copied
the tune first'?
The source of both the songs is music by the Afro-pop group
Mory Kante. While 'Jooma chumma de de' (Ikram, I got the spelling
right!!! :-) ) from 'Hum' is a more-or-less faithful adaptation of
'Tamma tamma loge' (the original Mory Kante song) by Laxmi-Pyaare;
Bappi Lahiri's 'tamma tamma loge' from 'Thaanedaar' combines the beats
of another Mory Kante number 'Yeke yeke' (which can be heard on the
background score of 'Agneepath') with the original 'tamma tamma
loge'.
Now as regards what 'tamma' means, you'll need a Swaahili
expert... :-)
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Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Neeraj" == Neeraj Deshmukh <desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu> writes:
Neeraj> Now as regards what 'tamma' means, you'll need a
Neeraj> Swaahili expert... :-)
Interestingly, word "tamma" was used freely throughout the movie "Thanedar".
They used it as synonym for pyar/mohabbat though there is nothing like that
in Hindi.
Example:
Madhuri : Mujhe tumse wo ho gaya hai
Sanju : Kya ?
Madhuri : Wo... wo...
SAnju : Oh, tamma tamma !?!
So , now in this context, line "tamma tamma loge" makes sense, isn't it ?
--
Kuntal.
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SALMAAN KHAN
In article <4n2vse$8...@NNTP.MsState.Edu>, riz...@sparco.com (Rizwan M. Syed) writes:
> In <4n1bf8$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pa...@aol.com (PariD) writes:
>
>>Wasn't their a rip-off copy with Sanjay Dutt and Madhuri? The words were
>>something like Tamma tamma de de. Was the word tamma, and if so what the
>>hell does it mean?
>
> the 'Jumma Chumma' movie. (was it 'HUM'?) The words WERE, 'Tamma Tamma
> de do' I think, same beat though..
>
> Rizwan
>
>
Thanx for trying to clear the doubt Rizwan anyway both the songs were copy-cats
of an AFRICAN tribal song-turned-into a modern song. Its words were like:
Tama tama loge tama tama loge (not tam-ma tam-ma as in the hindi version)but
Bappi sahab was first to translate it into hindi coz we in Fiji heard Tamma
tamma then came jumma chumma.
Sameer
Renal Bhalakia
SALMAAN KHAN wrote:
> Thanx for trying to clear the doubt Rizwan anyway both the songs were copy-cats
> of an AFRICAN tribal song-turned-into a modern song. Its words were like:
> Tama tama loge tama tama loge (not tam-ma tam-ma as in the hindi version)but
> Bappi sahab was first to translate it into hindi coz we in Fiji heard Tamma
> tamma then came jumma chumma.
>
> Sameer
Beacause the people in Fiji heard it first, should the world consider it first?
FYI. Jumma Chumma was heard in India way before your Bappi 'sahab' heard the
African tune.
Renal.
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bina bole hi chahat ka hansiN izhaar hota hai,
khayalon ki hasiN waadi meiN jab tum gungunati ho,
meri sansoN ke dariya meiN kai toofan lati hon,
bahut bechainiyoN meiN bhi baDa aaram hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai,
zubaaN khamosh hoti hai nazar se kaam hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai....
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Vinod Arekar
Here's some comments on "J"umma Chumma and Tamma Tamma -
JC (Jumma Chumma, Not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ!) was
available on tape much before the release of Hum
(thanks to all the patient editing enforced by AB), and
it was gaining a lot of popularity, and Coppy Lahiri
wanted to make some money on that, so he made the copy
"Tamma Tamma", and it was patched onto the already ready
print of Thanedaar (see Thanedaar and look at the scene
where TT comes on, if you are not convinced).
This is why some Fijians believe that TT is the original.
For them, seeing(esp. on the silver screen) is believing!
Vinod
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Vinod" == Vinod Arekar <wen...@perelandra.cms.udel.edu> writes:
Vinod> Coppy Lahiri wanted to make some
Vinod> money on that, so he made the copy "Tamma Tamma", and it
Vinod> was patched onto the already ready print of Thanedaar (see
Vinod> Thanedaar and look at the scene where TT comes on, if you
Vinod> are not convinced).
I am not convinced about patching stuff. As I have already said, the
word "Tamma" appears many times in the dialogues. So it is not possible
that print was ready before Tamma Tamma was patched up.
AAMIR KHAN
In article <31A0B1...@cclabs.missouri.edu>, Renal Bhalakia <ccr...@cclabs.missouri.edu> writes:
> SALMAAN KHAN wrote:
>> Thanx for trying to clear the doubt Rizwan anyway both the songs were copy-cats
>> of an AFRICAN tribal song-turned-into a modern song. Its words were like:
>> Tama tama loge tama tama loge (not tam-ma tam-ma as in the hindi version)but
>> Bappi sahab was first to translate it into hindi coz we in Fiji heard Tamma
>> tamma then came jumma chumma.
>>
>
>
> FYI. Jumma Chumma was heard in India way before your Bappi 'sahab' heard the
> African tune.
>
> Renal. >
sorry RENAL but I think you are not a GEOGRAPHY student coz If you were then
you would have known that the SUN rises in Fiji first then any other country !
and hence we in FIJI begin the new day ok got it ??
And when did the AFRICAANs begin copy catting indian tunes ?
If they have then may be I should perhaps ask my lecturers to get their facts
correct - that AFRICAANS listen to hindi tunes !!
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> badal jateh hain sab aasaar jab ye pyar hota hain,
> bina bole hi chahat ka hansiN izhaar hota hai,
> khayalon ki hasiN waadi meiN jab tum gungunati ho,
> meri sansoN ke dariya meiN kai toofan lati hon,
> bahut bechainiyoN meiN bhi baDa aaram hota hai,
> isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai,
> zubaaN khamosh hoti hai nazar se kaam hota hai,
> isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai....
AT LEAST TRY TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR QUOTES COZ I KNOW YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO
PENNED THIS KAVITA
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>
I HAVE AN ANSWER - THE SANE PERSON IS THE ONE WHO WROTE JUMMA CHUMMA BY COPYING
IT FROM AN AFRICAAN TUNE AND HE IS STILL CONSIDERED NOT TO BE CRAZY !!
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AAMIR KHAN
In article <31A148...@perelandra.cms.udel.edu>, Vinod Arekar <wen...@perelandra.cms.udel.edu> writes:
> Here's some comments on "J"umma Chumma and Tamma Tamma -
> JC (Jumma Chumma, Not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ!) was
> available on tape much before the release of Hum
> (thanks to all the patient editing enforced by AB), and
> wanted to make some money on that, so he made the copy
> "Tamma Tamma", and it was patched onto the already ready
> print of Thanedaar (see Thanedaar and look at the scene
> where TT comes on, if you are not convinced).
>
>
> Vinod
GEE YOU ARE SUCH A STUPID PERSON !! WHETHER JC OR TT CAME FIRST THE THING IS
BOTH WERE COPIED FROM THAT AFRICAAN TUNE OR WAS IT THE AFRICAANS WHO COPIED JC
TUNE ? WHEN THIS HAPPENED (THE COPYING I MEAN) NITHER YOU NOR I WAS PRESENT SO
WE CANT SAY FOR SURE. AND BESIDES YOUR PATCHING IDEA SOUNDS TOOOOO FAIRY LIKE -
GET IT !!
THE OTHER THING WHICH IS PERHAPS TYPICAL OF YOUR KIND THAT IF YOU CANT FIND
WORDS TO EXPRESS YOURSELF YOU QUICKLY RESORT TO RACISM COMMENTS. THAT COMMENT
HAS BEEN DELETED FROM MY REPLY BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO READ IT THEN TURN TO THE
COMMENT BY vinod sahab
I CAN ALSO SAY THE SAME THINGS TO YOU BUT THEN WHAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN YOU AND ME ? THERE IS A SAYING IN HINDI:
KUTTA JAB PAHAD KO BHOKTA HAI TO HANI SIRF KUTTE HI KO PADE GI PAHAD TO WAISA
HI RAHE GA !!
OK THEN TIME TO SHOW MY REAL ETHNICITY:
DEAR BROTHER IN A TRUE FIJIAN MANNER I BOW MY HEAD TO YOU IF I MAY HAVE CAUSED
ANY SORT OF HARD FEELINGS TO YOU. IT IS NOT HOW WE BEHAVE. PLEASE ACCEPT MY
SINCERE APOLOGY.
"RERE VAKA NA KALOU KA DOKA NA TUI"
Arun Kunchithapatham
On 21 May 1996, Kuntal Shah wrote:
> >>>>> "Vinod" == Vinod Arekar <wen...@perelandra.cms.udel.edu> writes:
>
> Vinod> Coppy Lahiri wanted to make some
> Vinod> money on that, so he made the copy "Tamma Tamma", and it
> Vinod> was patched onto the already ready print of Thanedaar (see
> Vinod> Thanedaar and look at the scene where TT comes on, if you
> Vinod> are not convinced).
>
> I am not convinced about patching stuff. As I have already said, the
> word "Tamma" appears many times in the dialogues. So it is not possible
> that print was ready before Tamma Tamma was patched up.
Couple of pointers I want to make. Hindi films and songs, given what
they are make no sense most of the times. For all you know, the director
may have had a liking for the word tamma and asked that it be used in the
song! Anyway, most hindi lyrics don't rhyme.
Second, and on a totally different note, I refuse to quote the article
of one Salmaan khan who then morphs into Aamir khan and then hurls
insults at Vinod. However, I must say that I know Vinod personally
( having studied in the same school as his and having stayed at the same
hostel as his) and I *know* that he usually has his music/filmi fundaes
straight. He is no racist and he has a great sense of humour. I am but
forced to say that some Fijians have no sense of humor and are anally
retentive and have a fascination for male Hindi film stars or believe
that they are one. Get a life --what is it this time - Shah Rukh Khan?
-- arun
Renal Bhalakia
AAMIR KHAN wrote:
> In article <31A0B1...@cclabs.missouri.edu>, Renal Bhalakia <ccr...@cclabs.missouri.edu> writes:
> > Beacause the people in Fiji heard it first, should the world consider it >first?
> > FYI. Jumma Chumma was heard in India way before your Bappi 'sahab' heard the
> > African tune.
> >
> > Renal.
>
> sorry RENAL but I think you are not a GEOGRAPHY student coz If you were then
> you would have known that the SUN rises in Fiji first then any other country !
> and hence we in FIJI begin the new day ok got it ??
I guess your posting itself shows whether my geography knowledge is low or your IQ
level. (Well since we know that your IQ level is definetly low, it's better to le
you know that later is that case. :-])
> And when did the AFRICAANs begin copy catting indian tunes ?
> If they have then may be I should perhaps ask my lecturers to get their facts
> correct - that AFRICAANS listen to hindi tunes !!
Who said anything about that? Not me.
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> > badal jateh hain sab aasaar jab ye pyar hota hain,
> > bina bole hi chahat ka hansiN izhaar hota hai,
> snip<
> AT LEAST TRY TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR QUOTES COZ I KNOW YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO
> PENNED THIS KAVITA
As for the penmenship of the above lines, nowhere in the posting I say that it is
penned by me. For the benifit of others, it's from a song of the movie Main
Khilari Tu Anari. And for god's sake turn your Caps Lock off.
Renal.
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badal jateh hain sab aasaar jab ye pyar hota hain,
bina bole hi chahat ka hansiN izhaar hota hai,
khayalon ki hasiN waadi meiN jab tum gungunati ho,
meri sansoN ke dariya meiN kai toofan lati hon,
bahut bechainiyoN meiN bhi baDa aaram hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai,
zubaaN khamosh hoti hai nazar se kaam hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai....
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