Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
Amandi R. Quvalis
girls are not pretty by my standards. Whats the equation between respect and posing
semi-clad. I really think that Indians are way too judgemental and have a ready-made moral
yardstick to judge everything except their own hypocracy. Respect to women you say ? In
a country which burns them ? Get off your high perch. Leave the women alone. WHat they
do is their business!
Regards,
Amandi.
These are my own opinions, I think...
pgg...@computer.net
>WHats wrong with beautiful bodies ? You got it you flaunt it. I mean most Indian
>girls are not pretty by my standards.
I do not know about your standards, but by world standards our women
have done pretty well as in the last two years India has had a Miss World
and a Miss Universe. Probably, you have a different yardstick ? Are you
Indian, Pakistani or other ?? Just curious.
ta...@grove.ufl.edu
Both of the above can be true, right? The country with the largest
number of beautiful women need not have the most beautiful woman,
and vice versa.
In my opinion, having a page full of beautiful women's pictures
is as good or as bad as having a page full of pics of handsome men,
tough looking motorcycles, or ugly mosquitoes. Nobody's forcing you
to look at it.
Tanny
ravi terala
: WHats wrong with beautiful bodies ? You got it you flaunt it. I mean most Indian
: semi-clad. I really think that Indians are way too judgemental and have a ready-made moral
: yardstick to judge everything except their own hypocracy. Respect to women you say ? In
: a country which burns them ? Get off your high perch. Leave the women alone. WHat they
: do is their business!
: Regards,
: Amandi.
: These are my own opinions, I think...
Hey do you measure up by beautiful women's standards? Unless you are too
good looking and women are crazy about you for your bodily appearance, you
cannot make comments like that. Before trying to comment on such things
first take a look at your self in the mirror, and then proceed.
Deepika Ganeshan
>From: ama...@cast.uark.edu (Amandi R. Quvalis)
>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>Date: 8 Jan 1996 15:44:26 GMT
>WHats wrong with beautiful bodies ? You got it you flaunt it. I mean most Indian
>girls are not pretty by my standards. Whats the equation between respect and posing
>semi-clad. I really think that Indians are way too judgemental and have a ready-made moral
>yardstick to judge everything except their own hypocracy. Respect to women you say ? In
>a country which burns them ? Get off your high perch. Leave the women alone. WHat they
>do is their business!
>Regards,
>Amandi.
>These are my own opinions, I think...
Thank you Amandi
uftf...@cc.memphis.edu
> : WHats wrong with beautiful bodies ? You got it you flaunt it. I mean most Indian
> : girls are not pretty by my standards. Whats the equation between respect and posing
> : semi-clad. I really think that Indians are way too judgemental and have a ready-made moral
> : yardstick to judge everything except their own hypocracy. Respect to women you say ? In
> : a country which burns them ? Get off your high perch. Leave the women alone. WHat they
> : do is their business!
>
> : Regards,
>
> : Amandi.
>
> : These are my own opinions, I think...
>
> good looking and women are crazy about you for your bodily appearance, you
> cannot make comments like that. Before trying to comment on such things
> first take a look at your self in the mirror, and then proceed.
>
I think the way Amandi looks is irrelevant to his comment. I would tend to
agree with him. It seems that 99% of Indian women are either gorgeous or
awful. There doesn't seem to be a comfortable medium.However most indian men
fall in the medium to ok-looking group. So, even if Amandi isn't a stunning
guy, he's equally likely to land an ugly or beautiful indian woman.
F. Farooq
Kedarnath Tupil
|> In article <4d0qb8$n...@news.computer.net> pgg...@computer.net writes:
|> >>WHats wrong with beautiful bodies ? You got it you flaunt it. I mean most Indian
|> >>girls are not pretty by my standards.
|> >
|> >have done pretty well as in the last two years India has had a Miss World
|> >and a Miss Universe. Probably, you have a different yardstick ? Are you
|> >Indian, Pakistani or other ?? Just curious.
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >
|>
|>
|> Both of the above can be true, right? The country with the largest
|> number of beautiful women need not have the most beautiful woman,
|> and vice versa.
|>
|> In my opinion, having a page full of beautiful women's pictures
|> is as good or as bad as having a page full of pics of handsome men,
|> tough looking motorcycles, or ugly mosquitoes. Nobody's forcing you
|> to look at it.
|>
|> Tanny
HEY !! Leave the mosquitos alone! All mosquitos are beautiful ;=)
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Prasad rs
of womanhood in Bharat is not measured by episodes of bride burnings.
Bride burnings are abarrtions, so much so as Harlems & Watts. The best way
to summarize woomanhood in the East and West is as in the words of Swamy
Vivekananda. In his address to the Chicago Women's group he said " In the
East the symbol of woman is Mother while the symbol of woman in the West
is Wife". Contemlate on this brief statement and speaks volumes.
Vedas proclaim "Matru devobhava", "Pitri Devobhava", "Acharya Devobhava"
and "Athidhi Devobhava", meaning mother, father, teacher and guest is God
in that order, thus putting Mother on the pedestal. It also says 100
teachers are equivalent of a "Good Teacher (Sat Guru)", 100 Good Teachers
are euivalent for a "Father", and 100 Fathers are euivalent of a "Mother".
The greatness of Shivaji's, Gandhi's and Kennedy's lie in the mothers that
reared them. This is what India teaches the world about women and
womanhood----Sai Ram/ RSP/Houston.
ta...@grove.ufl.edu
>Bride burnings are abarrtions, so much so as Harlems & Watts. The best way
That's just one way to do abortions. There are other, less messy
ways. Good thing, otherwise I don't think it would be legal.
Tanny
Rahul Anand Narain
>
> The real beauty is the beauty of the SOUL.
There I was trying to feel the depths of her
soul when she exclaimed that I gave a great massage :-(
--
rahul
Whoever termed it necking was a poor judge of anatomy
Rahul Anand Narain
> The best way to summarize woomanhood in the East and West
raha hai?
All women (eastern or western) want everything from
every man.
Every man just wants one thing from all women :-)
> is as in the words of Swamy Vivekananda. The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to
quote him - Robert benchley.
In his address to the Chicago Women's group he said " In the
> East the symbol of woman is Mother while the symbol of woman in the West
> is Wife". Contemlate on this brief statement and speaks volumes.
Scratch! Scratch! Do you imply that in the east they
can be the mother of my children but not my wife? Great!
Bravo Swamiji!
And in the west they must be my wife but not the mother of
my children?
Why don't we compromise. Let them be someone else's wives.
And I shall promise to be safe. See simple! No wives and
no mothers and lots of love!
> This is what India teaches the world about women and
> womanhood----Sai Ram/ RSP/Houston.
Well well and what about Swami Vatsyatyana and Vashali ki
nagarvadhu practising the oldest profession! And the
West's response -- the best little w*house in Texas?
Any comments? Just drop the swamiji would ya? More
on the lines of the gandhaarvis!
--
rahul
Every kind of service necessary to the public good becomes
honorable by being necessary. -- Nathan Hale.
MATHAI NEBU JOHN
On 23 Jan 1996, Prasad rs wrote:
> The greatness of Shivaji's, Gandhi's and Kennedy's lie in the mothers that
> reared them. This is what India teaches the world about women and
> womanhood----Sai Ram/ RSP/Houston.
Wait so they're comparing the greatness of a man like Gandhi with Kennedy,
a murderer at best? They're screwed.
>
>
Srini
What a j....?
Bibhas Bhattacharya
: to summarize woomanhood in the East and West is as in the words of Swamy
: Vivekananda. In his address to the Chicago Women's group he said " In the
: East the symbol of woman is Mother while the symbol of woman in the West
: is Wife".
I don't know if Vivekananda should be considered to be an expert on
women. In any case when I see a beautiful (make that sexy) woman she
reminds me of anything but my mother. Although, words like "Holy cow"
comes to mind some times.
Dipanjan Banerjee
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Prasad rs (pras...@aol.com) wrote:
: Vedas proclaim "Matru devobhava", "Pitri Devobhava", "Acharya Devobhava"
: and "Athidhi Devobhava", meaning mother, father, teacher and guest is God
: in that order, thus putting Mother on the pedestal. It also says 100
: teachers are equivalent of a "Good Teacher (Sat Guru)", 100 Good Teachers
: are euivalent for a "Father", and 100 Fathers are euivalent of a "Mother".
: The greatness of Shivaji's, Gandhi's and Kennedy's lie in the mothers that
: reared them. This is what India teaches the world about women and
: womanhood----Sai Ram/ RSP/Houston.
However, what India teaches and what India practices are two different
things. To this day widows, instead of being venerated, are relegated to
the status of a distant relative, though they aren't burnt. I know of one
who was treated in such a manner myself. And you would be hard pressed to
assert that the _actual_ status of women in India(as opposed to the status
we _should_ confer upon them) is on par with the status of Indian men.
Dipanjan Banerjee
MATHAI NEBU JOHN
On Thu, 25 Jan 1996 kkha...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> la
> Organization: Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.3]
>
> In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.96012...@skule.ecf> you wrote:
>
>
> : On 23 Jan 1996, Prasad rs wrote:
>
> : > The greatness of Shivaji's, Gandhi's and Kennedy's lie in the mothers that
> : > reared them. This is what India teaches the world about women and
> : > womanhood----Sai Ram/ RSP/Houston.
> : Wait so they're comparing the greatness of a man like Gandhi with Kennedy,
> : a murderer at best? They're screwed.
>
> : >you my friend , with all due respect, one indian to another, the
> comparisons are totally inadequate. kennedy with all his greatness and
> statesmanship,and an irrevocable contribution to the equality of races
> and a lifetime contribution towards recognition of one man equal to
> another ,men and women, black and white, brown and yellow , you name
> it... it did not matter ,the colour, you see did not matter!!! it was the
> contribution of a human being to his (or her's) fellow humans that
> mattered the most! J.F.K's mother was far removed from it .But JFK was not.
> YOU could never ever call JFK a murderer.but you already did!YOU my
> friend have got a lot to learn. GANDHI also had a mother ,obviously, but
> ,if it was not for her rearing the world would never have had a
> gandhi!think about it!JFK with all his greatness and leadership cannot
> hold a candle to THE MAHTMA!.But were it not for his rearing the peoples
> of the world would have been the losers!this place we live in ,the earth,
> ,or getting down to the nitty gritty, the place where you live , work
> ,socialize,communicate,interact with and make your living from,would not
> not have been as good as it is today if it were not for the likes of the
> mahtma,JFK, Martin luther king etc. they all had mothers!The moms of this
> world influence what and how their kids influence their lives and of
> those around them.that includes the people next door , the people in
> their immediate community and the peoples beyound!very very few people
> influence the lives of people at large,the under privelaged people of the
> world and those who are blessed with resources.It takes the likes of The
> great Mahatma , JFK , Martin Luther King ETC. to make the sacrifices and
> to fight for what they believe in to make this world a better place today
> than it was yesterday..The great people of this world are probably born
> with the tools to change this world.But it takes a mother to torecognize
> and nurture the vision of their children to let them be free in their
> beliefs and their commitments to persue what they believe in.To let them
> grow mentally and spiritually to persue their dreams.to take on the
> challenges of this world. It is the very few who filter through to
> realising their mission tochange the ways to make this a better place for
> their fellow human beings.and that takes immense sacrifices and
> committment. way way beyond the thinking and advice of their parents and
> their peers.
> For you to call JFK a murderer is tentamount to treason to the peoples of
> this world. to say that women, not all women,but the mothers of this
> world who nurture and bring up their kids who rise above the norm and
> make this a world a better place for all who inhabbit it ,like , you
> andme,.........to call them some demeaning thing is tottally in
> excuseable! .For they raise their children to rise above thenselves !to
> make them grow mentally and spiritually to reach the heights they ,the
> mothers ,could probably never reach.....but it is them who provide the
> tools to the children to excel!.,> ENOUGH SAID. a dad.
>
>
> --
> EDMONTON,ALBERTA
> CANADA kkha...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
>
>
IN MY DEFENSE!! by Nebu John Mathai
Sorry. Not for what I said about that imbecile criminal JFK, but sorry
for my lack of clairity. When I said "They're screwed" I was not refering
to JFK (remarkably enough) and certainly not to Mahatma Gandhi who is a
great influence to me. Neither was I refering to their mothers in any
sort of perverted way. I think that Mr. K. Khamisa misinterpreted me, and
for good reason: I really wasn't very clear in what I said. Hope this
clears that up.
Now what I really wanted to say was that the person who thinks that they
can compare the greatness of Mahatma Gandhi with the pervertedness of
that criminal-cum-martyr JFK (big fraud american trash) is screwed up.
Totally. without any cause for regret or retraction I am saying that
anyone who can see any similarity between a man like Gandhi who did some
real good for the political well-being of India, as well as the Spiritual
well-being of the human race, and jfk who is at most a load of
overestimated shi*. What else can I say? JFK most probably was
responsible for Marilyn Monroe's death, and putting that theory behind,
beingthe pres of the US is enough to condemn him.
Really, JFK did something for all of us?? Bull. John Lennon and Roger
Waters had more of an impact on people (for good reason...).
I recall during my younger days having read a bit about JFK and being
thoroughly disgusted with him. I think I'll go and reread my old sources
to get some specific examples of this mans crimes and why I hate him so.
Well not hate...but I am disgusted by that bastard.
Please Mr. K. Khamisa, reply now that you know what I intended to say.
Indranil DasGupta
It's good to see that India still produces some normal males. Seeing all
these Gopala Krishnans andtheir buddies I had almost given up all hopes.
Indranil.
Vidhyadhar Joshi
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sgh...@iitk.ernet.in
> Well well and what about Swami Vatsyatyana and Vashali ki
> nagarvadhu practising the oldest profession! And the
> West's response -- the best little w*house in Texas?
> Any comments? Just drop the swamiji would ya? More
> on the lines of the gandhaarvis!
Oh I forgot, every society has to be practical. Interests of persons like you
have to be also served. Even Lord Krishna's Dvaarkaa had prostitutes. paapi
pet kaa savaal hai baabaa. Apun chokriiyon ko dhande me nahin lagaayegaa to
karegaa kyaa, isn't it?
-Your well wisher
P.S. Vaatsyaayana describes a gardabha (donkey) position. You will like it.
Do a search on kama sutra on yahoo.
Kuntal M. Daftary
<snip> a very moving article <snip>
whos saying anything about women as mothers?
--
later
kuntal
diwaanaa leke aayaa hai, dil kaa taraanaa
dekho kaheen yaaron, thukaraa na denaa...
meraa nazaraanaa...
NASHA1
as a woman i am sick to death of being placed on a pedastal, of being
constructed as nurturer as a devi, a goddess, of having to carry the
burden of nationhood. Why the hell dont we know what mahatma or jfk's moms
have to say about this.....if u worship them as nurturerers and safegaurds
of the nation, why not let them tell their story......why this erotocized
nationalism. why is the woman responsible for safegaurding the codes of
morality and conscience. IS MOTHERHOOD A NATIONAL
SERVICE?????????????????????? what is this hedious trope that enshrines us
women as THE MOTHER, ideal feminity and all that rubbish.
Deepika Ganeshan
>From: nas...@aol.com (NASHA1)
>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
Dear nasha,
Even though i have been posting stuff on this newsgropu
for some time, i felt i was fighting a losing battle. yes, i agree with u that
we should be taken as human beings and not treated as supernaturals or even
dirt for that matter(taking the other side into consideration). HOW COME IT IS
SO ACCEPTABLE FOR A GUY TO MAKE A MISTAKE BUT NOT A WOMAN? I MEAN IF A GUY
IMPREGNATES A WOMAN(DUH...WHO ELSE CAN???) WHOM DOES INDIAN SOCIETY PUNISH? OR
FOR THAT MATTER ANY SOCIETY? more often than not, it is left to us pick up th
epieces and carry on with life or bear the brick bats in stony silence??? WE
ARE HUMAN TOO!!!
Aditya
> RE; i am sick to death from reading about representations of women by men.
That's nice.
> as a woman i am sick to death of being placed on a pedastal, of being
> constructed as nurturer as a devi, a goddess, of having to carry the
> burden of nationhood.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT AN AWESOME RESPONSIBILITY!!!
BUT PLEASE DON'T FORSAKE US MOTHER,FOR WE (AND THE NATION) SURVIVE
SOLELY BY YOUR PEDESTAL SITTING.(PEDESTAL UNDER NASHAA)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I SURE SYMPATHIS WITH YOU.
> Why the hell dont we know what mahatma or jfk's moms
> have to say about this.....if u worship them as nurturerers and safegaurds
> of the nation, why not let them tell their story
Well,I guess nobody asked them.Like,we completely forgot to ask them
their stories (they were very busy though,nurturing and safeguarding their
nations).
> ......why this erotocized
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> nationalism.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN?? "EROTOCIZED NATIONALISM"??? IF SOMEDAY SOMEONE
COMES UP WITH A DEFINITION FOR THAT WORD,PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
> why is the woman responsible for safegaurding the codes of
> morality and conscience.
I GUESS THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE NO POLICE"MEN" WHERE YOU COME FROM.
> IS MOTHERHOOD A NATIONAL
> SERVICE??????????????????????
YUP,YOU ARE'NT THINKING OF TAXING USFOR IT ARE YOU???
> what is this hedious trope that enshrines us
> women as THE MOTHER, ideal feminity and all that rubbish.
I SHOULD AGREE,LOT OF RUBBISH......
freelance
>
> In article <4fiuge$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> nas...@aol.com (NASHA1) writes:
> >From: nas...@aol.com (NASHA1)
> >Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
> >Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:17:18 -0500
>
> >constructed as nurturer as a devi, a goddess, of having to carry the
> >have to say about this.....if u worship them as nurturerers and safegaurds
> >nationalism. why is the woman responsible for safegaurding the codes of
> >morality and conscience. IS MOTHERHOOD A NATIONAL
> >SERVICE?????????????????????? what is this hedious trope that enshrines us
> >women as THE MOTHER, ideal feminity and all that rubbish.
Dear Deepika,
This is your opinion. Each person has his/her views. Think about your
own feelings with other human being, as you grew up. I know how my
feelings were/are - and it is a mutual understanding -give/take. Your own
experiences will tell you, every body is not the same.
freelance ash...@intergate.bc.ca
Daulat Sen
>From: nas...@aol.com (NASHA1)
>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:17:18 -0500
>RE; i am sick to death from reading about representations of women by men.
as are most of us, but since the women tend not to write too much, publicly at
least, we are left with very limited material with which to have our endless
angst ridden debates!
>as a woman i am sick to death of being placed on a pedastal,
that may be so, but most Indian men are trained from birth to do so by their
own mothers ... so perhaps we need to address that issue first?
>of being
>constructed as nurturer as a devi, a goddess, of having to carry the
>burden of nationhood.
ok, but these are all "traditional" roles in almost all societies, perhaps even
the American "motherhood and apple-pie" thing? Lets try a few random phrases
for cross cultural comparisons ... "Love Goddess", "Blonde Bombshell", "Miss
Liberty Bell(e)", "Daughters of the Alamo", "Sex Kitten" ... any more?
>Why the hell dont we know what mahatma or jfk's moms
>have to say about this.....
ok, why? I'd like to know!
I think that women around Gandhi have written their thoughts, perhaps someone
more knowledgable than me can elucidate?
>if u worship them as nurturerers and safegaurds
>of the nation, why not let them tell their story......
Actually there are lots of good Indian women authors publishing at the moment,
and there have been for some time. I can reccomend "Memories of Rain" by
Sunetra Gupta, though its a little flowery for my taste.
so go ahead lets hear from you!!!!!
>why this erotocized
>nationalism.
nationalism is passion (as is politics) ... eroticism is ... ????? things get
intertwined and intermingled, just look at the multitudes of romances and
"hero" worshipping that goes on within political parties. Ah hah - all these
conventions and caucuses coming up ... the mind boggles!! Ever been involved
with "politics" at college?!? :)
>why is the woman responsible for safegaurding the codes of
>morality and conscience.
she's not, apart from the fact that for most of us these lessons come from our
mothers. I think its a long term behaviour pattern we have learnt in order to
avoid unwanted pregnancies (ok various people are going to flame me for this,
but ...!) so women pass on this "learning" to their daughters ... etc. After
all, most species try to avoid non-optimal reproduction, hence evolve various
strategies to avoid it.
>IS MOTHERHOOD A NATIONAL SERVICE??????????????????????
no, a societal and familial one. And lets be honest, the majority of women are
looking forward to being mothers, and the majority of men are looking forward
(with extreme terror!) to being fathers! And all the RESPONSIBILITIES that it
involves.
>what is this hedious trope that enshrines us
>women as THE MOTHER, ideal feminity and all that rubbish.
er ... because "mothers" (by defn) are good things?????
>Dear nasha,
> Even though i have been posting stuff on this newsgropu
>for some time, i felt i was fighting a losing battle. yes, i agree with u that
>we should be taken as human beings and not treated as supernaturals or even
>dirt for that matter(taking the other side into consideration).
and you might find that quite a lot of people might actually treat you the way
you want to be treated if you can get past the usual newsgroup rabid dogs!
Yeah even desi-bhais! It is possible!
> HOW COME IT IS
>SO ACCEPTABLE FOR A GUY TO MAKE A MISTAKE BUT NOT A WOMAN?
oh dear, I feel generalisation standard thread number 453 coming up here!
Vivek where are you? Pankaj? Help!! Actually you'll find that it usually
isnt.
>I MEAN IF A GUY
>IMPREGNATES A WOMAN(DUH...WHO ELSE CAN???)
test tube babies are cute too! :)
> WHOM DOES INDIAN SOCIETY PUNISH? OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY SOCIETY?
punishes the woman - because "traditionally" she "should have known better",
and most societal rules incorporate this thinking, see above on non-optimal
pregnancy. Not so different in the west either, even today!!! And you know,
it seems to me that a lot of these "rules" are perpetuated by other women.
(Gonna get flamed big time now!)
>more often than not, it is left to us pick up th
>epieces and carry on with life or bear the brick bats in stony silence??? WE
>ARE HUMAN TOO!!!
point taken, but you might find support from men on this subject too, all
depends on whether they have a sense of "decency" or not. And that sense is
not privy to any one racial group or other but comes about through what a
friend of mine calls "Nurture" (see I do learn!) which is engendered in a
caring, loving atmosphere of upbringing that we traditionally associate with
"family life".
Daulat
Kulbir Singh Bhatia
: In article <4fiuge$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> nas...@aol.com (NASHA1) writes:
: >From: nas...@aol.com (NASHA1)
: >Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
: >Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:17:18 -0500
: >RE; i am sick to death from reading about representations of women by men.
: as are most of us, but since the women tend not to write too much, publicly at
: least, we are left with very limited material with which to have our endless
: angst ridden debates!
: >as a woman i am sick to death of being placed on a pedastal,
: that may be so, but most Indian men are trained from birth to do so by their
: own mothers ... so perhaps we need to address that issue first?
I think education is the key to many complex problems of the world.
regards,
kulbir singh
: >of being
Pardee95
women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have to
work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then half
the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
everything else.
What is your view of Indian women, and how men should treat them.
Sincerely,
Pardeep.
Jaswinder Singh
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Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
: I like your style, Indian men don't have the foggiest idea how to treat
: women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have to
: work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then half
: the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
: everything else.
Typical sterotypical attitude... watching to many hindi movies
or what?:)
Jas.
: What is your view of Indian women, and how men should treat them.
: Sincerely,
: Pardeep.
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World of Oz
: women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have to
: work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then half
: the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
: everything else.
You've been watching too many Hindi movies...
Vandit
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Making war just for fun, | the end doesn't scare us,
Treating people like pawns in chess, | When will this cease
Wait till their Judgment Day comes" | The warheads will all rust in peace
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"MOO. WE ARE COW. MOO" -- The Brain
Balakrishnan
>In article <4hvdbv$e...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pard...@aol.com (Pardee95) writes:
>>From: pard...@aol.com (Pardee95)
>>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>
>>I like your style, Indian men don't have the foggiest idea how to treat
>>women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have to
>>work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then half
>>the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
>>everything else.
>
>
>>Sincerely,
>>Pardeep.
>
>nahin hain lekin phir bi, sab ek dosre pur jump kar rahe tein. agar tumhe
>sensible articles chahi hain to soc.culture.tamil mein Balakrishnan ke
>articles pado. unke articles bahut sensible or ache hain. Deepika bhi ok
>articles likti teen, lekin balakrishnan ke articles Deepika ke articles se
>tode better hain.:)
>.
Bahut bahut shukriyaa. Lekin abhi kuch puraane postings ko repost
karnaa padegaa. Nahin to kaise pata hoga ki yeh thread kaise chala? I
would appreciate it much more if you could support individual arguments
than to just post a general appreciation. Nobody at all times can say
the correct or most sensible thing-only what (s)he thinks is correct at
the time. Once again, thank you very much for your appreciation.
Balakrishnan
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Pardee95
two eyes. I wish you poet wannabes would get off your high horses once in
a while.
Pardeep.
Pardee95
again. I hate Hindi movies, I cannot tolerate them to any degree, so
please be so kind as to nott insult me by suggesting I have watched too
many.
Pardeep.
Sang H. Choe
young indian-americans are clueless about how to treat
women. Manily because the young kids are so caught up
studying and not taking the time to smell the roses.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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World of Oz (vka...@red.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Is that why people object when STAR TV shows scantily clad women? Or why
: mmany people still treat divorced women as pariah? Or why a law has to be
: enacted to counter dowry-related harassment?
Man you are such an ignorant dweeb - ARE YOU NOT AWARE THAT MOST WOMEN
WOULD THEMSELVES FIND SCANTILY CLAD WOMEN BEING PARADED AROUND OFFENSIVE??!
- THe fact that there are anti - dowry laws - does not that show that
women are being protected by indian laws??? Duh!!!!
: Go to an village in Bengal or Bihar or elsewhere and tell me that the
: women are treated on par with men.
ANd go to any Western society and show me one that treats women on par
with men.
: An average Indian male (STEREOTYPING ALERT: not all Indian males fit this
: stereotype, but enough do to make it valid) will pay lip-service to a
: even a lot of Indian women subscribe to this belief. Sure, the culture
: itself stresses respect for women - but in reality, do people live up to that
: image?
The average indian idiotic baboon will start too criticise his own
culture without realizing that western society is no better.
: I agree, times are changing - but refusing to realize the truth is the biggest
: impediment to hastening that change.
: Cheers,
: Vandit
P.s. change your i.d. from vandit to IDIOT - it is more fitting.
Pooja Dharmchand
>From: 4h...@qlink.queensu.ca (Sahdra Harjinder S)
>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>
>
>.
guys let's not foregt the objective here. it is not to bash each other but to
sensibly discuss problems affecting women in all soicety not all in india thou
ofcorse that would be our major concern. i know we can all get our points
across without getting nasty, can't we?
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>Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
>: I like your style, Indian men don't have the foggiest idea how to treat
>: women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have to
>: work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then half
>: the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
>: everything else.
>
>: What is your view of Indian women, and how men should treat them.
>
>: Sincerely,
>: Pardeep.
>
>THAT FIT NICELY INTO THE WHITE COMMUNITY"S VIEWS ABOUT OUR CULTURE. IF
>YOUR MOM IS BEING KNOCKED AROUND BY YOUR POP GO TO THE POLICE - DON'T
>ASSUME ALL INDIAN MEN ARE LIKE YOUR DADDY.
I cannot but agree with u pal, what a dickhead. In our culture women have
the utmost respect and are in most cases (except this dickhead's ofcourse)
the backbone of the entire family. Of'course the west thinks that we are
still in the process of evolution (very recently have we stopped using the
elephants for transportation and discovered more professions than just snake
charmers). With clueless dudes like him walking around i don't blame them for
thinking so.
Nivedita Bhatt
: Again, I have seen Indian women get the short end of the stick time and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Boy, your girlfriend must be dissapointed!!! :-) [just kidding]
Avi
vka...@red.seas.upenn.edu (World of Oz) wrote:
>While completely naked, Vijay Subramanian (v...@uceng.uc.edu) mimed:
>: I cannot but agree with u pal, what a dickhead. In our culture women have
>: the utmost respect and are in most cases (except this dickhead's ofcourse)
>: the backbone of the entire family.
>
>Is that why people object when STAR TV shows scantily clad women? Or why
>mmany people still treat divorced women as pariah? Or why a law has to be
>enacted to counter dowry-related harassment?
>
what are u talking about, i think showing women as sex objects would constitute
disrespect not the other way round, i might buy the divorce point though
but well once again atleast overall the divorce rate in india is lower
than ur so called civilized/equal treatment to women societies.
>Go to an village in Bengal or Bihar or elsewhere and tell me that the
>women are treated on par with men.
even though i am not from there, when i was in bihar and bengal i did
not see anything radical, not anything i don't see here in US, well u might
add i did not look deep in bihar and bengal, well dude have u looked deep
in the US, maybe if u did, u might be surprised. remember in the western
civilizations women were not allowed to vote till very recently (maybe i
will take that very back), and in india women have been controlling empires
from the times of chandragupta and samundragupta maurya (way back before
the west had still not seen the light (i mean christ), and when ur western
women were sitting at home raising babies, rani Jhansi was kicking ass. : )
>
>An average Indian male (STEREOTYPING ALERT: not all Indian males fit this
>stereotype, but enough do to make it valid) will pay lip-service to a
>even a lot of Indian women subscribe to this belief. Sure, the culture
>itself stresses respect for women - but in reality, do people live up to that
>image?
>
if i knew what u meant by that i could have responded, though we have
some glaring problems, so does every society (w.r.t women i mean). Atleast
our culture stresses respect for women, try reading the bible and koran, u
might be surprised there again.
>I agree, times are changing - but refusing to realize the truth is the biggest
>impediment to hastening that change.
>
and what makes u think the attitute of the indians (i mean the ones in india : )
is not changing, maybe dude u need to go to india sometimes, u might find
them more open minded then other races (w.r.t women once again). equality
and respect of women does not only constitute what u see here, maybe u never
understood the indian point of view.
>Cheers,
>
>Vandit
>
>vijay and avi
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>"Politicians hide themselves away, | "Launch the Polaris,
> Making war just for fun, | the end doesn't scare us,
> Treating people like pawns in chess, | When will this cease
> Wait till their Judgment Day comes" | The warheads will all rust in peace
> -- BLACK SABBATH | -- MEGADETH
> === Deus Diabolus Ozziusque Unus ===
>*****************************************************************************
>"MOO. WE ARE A COW. MOO" -- The Brain
Balakrishnan
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>Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
>: I like your style, Indian men don't have the foggiest idea how to
>treat
>: women. Women have always gotten the short end of the stick, they have
>to
>: work, come home, do the house work, take care of the kids, and then
>half
>: the time put up with some punk who either drinks or hits her on top of
>: everything else.
>
>
>>or what?:)
>>Jas.
>
>yet again and argue with each other endlessly to prove absolutely
>nothing other than we love loosley defined and strongly prejudiced
>stereotypes on this newsgroup!!!!
>
>Daulat
>
>(atleast in Hindi films good always wins over evil!!)
>.
Arre, you seem to think that this is a seasonal phenomenon. As
Ms.Pooja had written, maybe we could discuss and try to find a solution
to the problems of women in India(and elsewhere if you have the stamina)
And my friend, what is a strongly prejudiced stereotype? What is best
for the topic is to cast away stereotypes and try to work with what one
knows and has seen. In response to your last statement, in Hindi movies,
good does not always win over evil, it isonly that the main role triumph
There are intances when s/he has also had a bad character.
World of Oz
: what are u talking about, i think showing women as sex objects would
: constitute disrespect not the other way round, i might buy the divorce point
: though but well once again atleast overall the divorce rate in india is lower
: than ur so called civilized/equal treatment to women societies.
I suppose it is a matter of defining "disrespect" - in my opinion, objecting
to scantily-clad women as being "obscene" shows (i) a rather close-minded
attitude and (ii) an unwillingness to let women decide for themselves what
they want to do.
A long time ago, the Telegraph's (a Calcutta newspaper) weekly magazine had a
guy in a swim trunk and a woman in a bikini on its cover. Floods of letters
poured in, decrying the "near-naked" woman on the cover as being obscene -
yet noone complained about the equally "near-naked" guy.
: even though i am not from there, when i was in bihar and bengal i did
: not see anything radical, not anything i don't see here in US, well u might
: add i did not look deep in bihar and bengal, well dude have u looked deep
: in the US, maybe if u did, u might be surprised. remember in the western
: civilizations women were not allowed to vote till very recently (maybe i
: will take that very back), and in india women have been controlling empires
: from the times of chandragupta and samundragupta maurya (way back before
: the west had still not seen the light (i mean christ), and when ur western
: women were sitting at home raising babies, rani Jhansi was kicking ass. : )
True enough... but I wasn't really comparing Western and Indian treatment of
women. The West has come a long way (excessively so, I might add) in
removing gender differences, whereas India has only recently begun to take
steps in that direction.
In any case, how the West treats women is really no justification for what
we do.
: if i knew what u meant by that i could have responded, though we have
: some glaring problems, so does every society (w.r.t women i mean). Atleast
: our culture stresses respect for women, try reading the bible and koran, u
: might be surprised there again.
Well, I was referring to the fact that a lot of people are only too ready to
say "woman is the mother", and to assign all sorts of benign/saintly
attributes to women in general. But when it comes to everyday life, a lot of
people end up treating their spouses like crap.
While in India, I used to help a friend of my mom's, who ran a welfare org.
for abused women. It was a major eye-opener for me. For people like you and
me, who come from the more opulent and educated backgrounds (relatively
speaking), this doesn't seem to be a big problem - yet the problem DOES exist.
Especially in the rural areas, where education levels are not so high, and
people are too well set in their ways.
: and what makes u think the attitute of the indians (i mean the ones in
: india : ) is not changing, maybe dude u need to go to india sometimes, u
: might find them more open minded then other races (w.r.t women once again).
Oh, I know for certain it is changing... I am not denying that. But there is
still a long way to go. And as long as some people refuse to face the fact
that the problem still exists, getting rid of the problem will take that much
longer.
As for the open-mindedness, I've seen a lot of truly open-minded Indians -
and I've seen a lot of truly close-minded Indians who use the openness of
their culture to cover their bigotry.
Take the other person who responded to my post - given that Indian culture is
so liberal, I am curious as to what prompted Mr I-am-too-afraid-to-sign-my-post
-with-my-name to launch such a hysterical attack at the slightest hint of
criticism of HIS beloved culture. That certainly doesn't do the rest of us,
who try to be a little more open-minded any good.
I used to be a staunch BJP supporter - of late, seeing some of the posts by
the right-wingers, I fail to see the difference between "them" and "us".
I guess my point is that even though we talk of broad-mindedness, etc., and
even though our culture has a proud tradition of being open and hospitable,
that doesn't neccessarily make us that way.
Regards,
Vandit
--
World of Oz
: Man you are such an ignorant dweeb - ARE YOU NOT AWARE THAT MOST WOMEN
It is their personal bloody choice what kinds of clothes they wear. And why
is it offensive? What bloody "moral high ground" do you have to go around
telling OTHER people what sort of clothes they should wear or not wear?
"Most women" would find it offensive? Who died and appointed you a
spokesperson for most women?
You find it offensive, don't watch the damn show. Let those who have no
prblems with the human body watch it.
: - THe fact that there are anti - dowry laws - does not that show that
: women are being protected by indian laws??? Duh!!!!
Ok, I'll explain it in slightly simpler terms:
The fact that special laws exist to prevent mistreatment of women implies a
certain NEED for that law. In other words, women get abused for dowry on
a regular basis, thus the need for that law.
: ANd go to any Western society and show me one that treats women on par
: with men.
"Ok, the West does it so we can do it too" - is that really the best
argument you can come up with? Who the fuck gives a rat's ass about how the
West treats women? We are talking about INDIAN WOMEN here, bozo.
You seriously think that the "glass ceiling" (or what-have-you) compares to the
way a villager in India treats his wife? You are either amazingly blind or
amazingly retarded if you think so.
: The average indian idiotic baboon will start too criticise his own
: culture without realizing that western society is no better.
Ah, so criticizing one's own culture makes me a "buffoon". I am sure the
women who are beaten by their husbands in some Indian village will take
great solace in knowing that, know matter how pitiful their plight, the
CULTURE is above all.
The CULTURE is nothing without the people - too bad close-minded people like
you cannot come to terms with that. The first sign of criticism and you
start calling others names instead of trying to face the truth and change.
Hindu culture at one time was the most liberal and open of all cultures - it
is a bloody disgrace that people like you spoil its beauty with your
amazing inability to face the truth.
What next? We all chant EIN REICH, EIN VOLK, EIN FUEHRER?
: P.s. change your i.d. from vandit to IDIOT - it is more fitting.
Hoo ha. Boy, that makes me feel so bad. You cannot come up with ONE
single point to show that women are NOT being treated badly in India and
so you resort to name-calling - and you cannot even do a good job there!
Pardee95
a decent dowry to the in-laws, there will be abuse. This happened last
year in San Jose, CA, the youngest of a family of 5 married, came to
California from India. The husband started abusing her over this dowry
issue, she hid it for the longest time from her family. One day her best
friend called this girl's brother and sister in Orange County (a little
further South in CA) that their little sister was in big trouble and that
she (the friend) had to go to India and could not protect her from the
family whilst overseas, so they had better get up to San Jose and pick her
up.
Well, by the time the brother and sister got there that evening, they
found the police at her apartment. Apparently the girl had commited
suicide by hanging herself from her balcony window, yet upon investigation
signs led police to believe that there had been foul play on the husbands
part - who fled the country shortly thereafter. I knew this family, it
shocked me beyond belief that this could happen in the US in 1995 over
such a petty issue as dowry which seemed to be the main reason for the
abuse imposed upon this girl who was less than 25 years old.
Next example, a friend of our family remarried for the second time, moved
to CO. She had one son from her first marraige, the second marraige after
9 months did not work out. When the divorce was nearing it's end as of a
week ago, the boy bids his mother and step-father goodbye and goes to
school. When he returns, he finds his mother has been strangled, and her
throat slit thereafter as outlined by the husband when he called the
police after the murder. Before the police arrive, the husband shoots
himself in the head. The boy arrives home to find both parents dead - his
grandma in India, his only Uncle in living in Europe - he's on his own in
the US.
Third example, in an Indian village, a mother and son run out of their
house yelling "FIRE, FIRE". Villagers rush in to find the daughter in law
on fire and promtly put the fire out. The daughter in-law tells the
villagers that her husband and mother-law set her on fire whilst she was
asleep, and were pretending the fire started accidentally. To make a long
story short, the poor lady dies, and the husband and mother in law go to
jail, the mother in law for 1 year and the son for 10 years, but it still
doesn't bring the wife back!! Who can justify burning or murdering any
woman under any circumstances? Murder over issues such as dowry or a
dislike on the mother in laws part is defintely more rampant in Indian
culture, it is despicable and anyone who claims this does not exist is
either highly naive, stupid or in complete denial.
True, not all Indian men are this way, but enough are to the point where
this is a major problem. Abuse of women as detailed above, genitalia
mutilation or female infanticide, beatings whilst a husband is drunk, etc,
are horrific acts of violance and abuse, should be viewed as nother other
than criminal acts and need to be stamped out at the very root. Indian
women need to be encouraged by their friends, associates and family that
they do not and should not have to tolerate this type of abuse for any
reason under an circumstance. The narrow minded overly traditional parents
unfortunately urge many women to stay and work out the problems rather
than leave an obviosly abusive man.
These cowards know the women will not leave since Indian society
conditions and imposes it's will upon women to stay put, hence these men
feel they have a free license to be as abusive as they want. If they felt
their wives would leave them based on physical or mental abuse, and that
society would actually condone and approve, they perhaps would think twice
and may be deterred from pushing their women around. This is not likely
though given the downright narrow minded and rigid Indian mentaility both
in the West (not all but enough men that it's still a tradgedy) and in
India (rural areas more so). It is amazing beyond belief how rigid the
Indian mind is in so many speciof the so called great culture. For my part
I have to say, the culture is outstanding, but many of the people are
absolute idiots - love the culture, can't stand the people (there are
exceptions of course).
The Sita ideal of women is inappropiate today, women need to be treated as
equals, they may not be as physically strong as men, but they are sure as
heck are as smart if not more so in many cases. A relationship where both
partners respect each other as equal and both fully contribute their
different strengths has to be more staisfying relationship than one where
the woman is subservient and overly dependent on the man and where the man
is overly domineering and stifles her freedom of thought, expression and
even movement in many cases. Then they wonder why they are bored with
their marraige!! I have had one relationship with an Indan girl, amicably
it did not lead to marraige and we are still the best of friends, but it
was most certainly a life changing and eye opening experience. There are
many good qualities in our multi-faceted ladies if we only give them
respect, space and the freedom to express and be themselves. Whether a man
or woman, we are all a soul that is neither male nor female that resides
in this shell called the body - equality is the inherent nature behind
this.
To all hot headed Indian men out there - and you know who you are, a man
who lays his hand on a woman is not a man, but a dispicable coward who
deserves the full contempt of his fellow men. If things are not working
out, try to talk it out and find a compromise, that exhausted to its
length, peacefully go your separate ways, if there is no compatibility why
force it and why indulge in violance.
Pardeep.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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After squirting on his scantly clad mother's face V.kalia
(vka...@red.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: It is their personal bloody choice what kinds of clothes they wear. And why
: is it offensive? What bloody "moral high ground" do you have to go around
: telling OTHER people what sort of clothes they should wear or not wear?
And the same can be asked of you - when did you take a survey and
conclude that women enjoy being being objectified as nothing but sex objects.
Just because a pervert like you wants to look at half naked women doesn't
mean that the whole world wants to do the same. Why don't you just rent a
porno or better yet pay a hooker to take off her clothes?
Get a life, stop wasting your money on those dirty books.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
[ I am a sensitive, gentle, effiminate, she-man of the 90's]
but, seriously, no denying that spousal abuse does occur in some indian
families, but just as many, if not more, examples of spousal abuse
occurring in non-indian families could also be documented. What is your
purpose in posting this article - do you believe that you are somehow
more progressive and better than other indians? Every right thinking
person would condemn spousal abuse, but one would have to be pretty
ignorant and narrow minded and indeed racist to assert that Indian males
are somehow less caring and more abusive than white males.
Also, i haven't heard of female genital mutilation being practiced in
indian society - i think you better save that for the Somali news group
and preach to them there. Furthermore, why do you only condemn female
genital mutilation, are boys not also victims of this practice in
cultures where they are circumsised against their will?
Nacho Man
Hey cocksucker, I'll put it in simple words:
No one is FORCING a woman to appear on TV in scantily-clad clothes. If they
do so, it is their business.
And you know what, fella? You mom fucked someone to give birth to you - does
that make her sick, obscene, etc? You mom probably was naked in bed with
your dad - does that make her sick, obscene, etc.?
: Just because a pervert like you wants to look at half naked women doesn't
: mean that the whole world wants to do the same. Why don't you just rent a
: porno or better yet pay a hooker to take off her clothes?
If you don't want to see half-naked women, watch another channel. I don't
need you telling me what I can watch and cannot watch.
- Woman voluntarily wears skimpily clad clothes on a show.
- I voluntarily choose to watch that show.
- No one is forcing you to watch that show.
What's the problem?
Pardee95
Female genitalia, male circumcision against ones will - neither is good -
both occur in India, just because you do not know of it is a sign of your
ignorance.
Indian men by and large tend to be more domineering and abusive than their
counterparts, this is not my belief alone, but of most of the Indian women
I come in contact with. I don't consider myself superior in any way, it's
idiots like you that make unnecessary snide remarks like that since you
have nothing objective to say.
Nor did I say that only Indian men are abusive, it happens in the West
too, I don't think to the same level though, being Indian my experience is
with Indian women and that is what I will talk about. Again, maybe you
have the intellect of a baboon and keep missing the point, but that really
is your problem isn't it.
The majority of Indian society my baboon friend, lives in rural villages
where many strange things occur which your mind could not really
comprehend. As for me being effeminate, we can meet face to face so that I
can teach you a lesson if you want to continue being a complete jerk -
stick to the issues and if you can't, take your ignorant attitudes
elsewhere.
Sincerely,
Pardeep.
Savithri
Pardeep,
Kudos to your post. As Gandhi said (sic) :"there are two types of
slavery in India, women and untouchables."
Savithri
--
Eadem mutata resurgo
Renal Bhalakia
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> Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
> Speak for your own family budd. STOP REINFORCING NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES
> THAT FIT NICELY INTO THE WHITE COMMUNITY"S VIEWS ABOUT OUR CULTURE. IF
> YOUR MOM IS BEING KNOCKED AROUND BY YOUR POP GO TO THE POLICE - DON'T
> ASSUME ALL INDIAN MEN ARE LIKE YOUR DADDY.
Could you please get this out of RMIM and RAMLI.
Thanks,
--
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meri sansoN ke dariya meiN kai toofan lati hon,
bahut bechainiyoN meiN bhi baDa aaram hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai,
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Nacho Man (vka...@red.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
[ blah blah blah]
I've told you before, GO RENT A PORNO you sick demented perverted. Stop
wacking off in front of your t.v!
Munewar Jehan
Very well said. I 100% agree with you. I wish more Indians think like you.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
: Female genitalia, male circumcision against ones will - neither is good -
: both occur in India, just because you do not know of it is a sign of your
: ignorance.
Bullshit, where in india does female genital mutilation occur, among
which communities?
: Indian men by and large tend to be more domineering and abusive than their
: counterparts, this is not my belief alone, but of most of the Indian women
: I come in contact with. I don't consider myself superior in any way, it's
: idiots like you that make unnecessary snide remarks like that since you
: have nothing objective to say.
How many indian women have you surveyed to reach this conclusion? Or do
you just kiss up to indian women with this crap hoping to slide into
one dumb enough to fall for your game?
: The majority of Indian society my baboon friend, lives in rural villages
: where many strange things occur which your mind could not really
: comprehend. As for me being effeminate, we can meet face to face so that I
: can teach you a lesson if you want to continue being a complete jerk -
: stick to the issues and if you can't, take your ignorant attitudes
: elsewhere.
: Sincerely,
: Pardeep.
You're brave sitting behind your computer screen - enough bitches like you
have gone down in the past upon meeting a certain four foot lead pipe -
so, don't worry i'm not trembling.
Later, She-Man.
Pardee95
I am referring to a segment of the Indian community that abuses it's
women, not all men do that but it is a significant problem. You are
obviously not directly affected so it seems you could not care less either
way on the issue. The women affected by such abuse would beg to differ
with your rather loud and unobjective response. Sweeping a problem under
the carpet does not mean it doesn't exist.
No one is throwing out the baby with the bath water, so please don't be so
anal retentive and make such accusations:)
Sincerely,
Pardeep.
Pardee95
You just go to prove your ignorance. If you are concerned about my bravery
I would be more than happy to meet you face to face to teach you some
manners. I am in San Diego, perhaps we are not so far apart that a meeting
is out of the question.
As far as sliding in some "dumb woman" as you state in your uncivil
response, my friend that is old nonsense spouting from the mouths of rabid
adolescents such as yourself. Please go and get a rabies check up before
it's really too late - tis better to be a human than a total animal. If
you cannot respond in a civil manner then simpy go away.
Since you genuinely seem to be such a jerk, I cannot resist asking you how
your sex life is - still using your right hand?
Also, you are so downright stupid that you actually thought that Fucking
was a city in China.
Get a life or get lost,
Pardeep.
P.S. If you need to learn manners, I can certainly meet you brave man even
with your 4 foot pipe.
Pardee95
exist or is superficial and insignificant. In their next life, let them be
the woman and have the experience to see how insignificant abuse via a
narrow minded Indian man actually is.
Additionally, most of thes folks think that putting the spotlight on the
problem in this manner is actually doing more harm than good to the Indian
community. It goes to prove the theory that Indian are liberal in
religious affairs but so narrow minded and downright tight and rigid in
social affairs that when they walk their rear end actually squeaks:)
Pardeep.
Neeraj Malhotra
REALLY, DO YOU SEE ANY REASON WHY THIS BELONGS IN
REC.MUSIC.INDIAN.MISC ???????????????
PLEASE STOP POSTING SUCH IRRELEVANT ARTICLES IN THSI GROUP !!
- NM... on behalf of REC.MUSIC.INDIAN.MISC
Suresh Kumar
malh...@bedford.progress.com (Neeraj Malhotra) writes:
|> Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
|>
Must be because
a. of the word INDIAN in the subject
b. They make MUSIC play in your head whenever you think of them.
Suresh
Kuntal M. Daftary
> Must be because
> a. of the word INDIAN in the subject
right... all of you know how this string began right?!
and besides once the subject moves away from the
regular NG topic, nobody bothers to change the "post to:"
header... do we, people?! :)
>b. They make MUSIC play in your head whenever you think of them.
more... females are music... :)
unfortunately, females tend to think man are cacophonic...
no appreciation in return... :(
and still they do yearn for a dream-male... each one
of them... how ironic?! :))
--
later
kuntal
Rajesh James
is a bit harsh. After all, his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis may
well have averted nuclear holocaust.... This "dead white male, ergo
murderer" thing is getting a bit old. Give credit where credit is due.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
: Dear She-Man,
Actually i was referring to you as "She - man".
O.K., insults aside - Please tell us where in India and in which
community the practice of female genital mutilation is prevalent. I think
you exaggerated (lied) in making this claim to make a point. So just
answer my question - your credibility is on the line here.
Pardee95
When I say Inida, I say it loosely by referring to not only India, but
also Pakistan and the Middle East. Specifically this situation occurs in
some areas of southern India, Pakistan and the Middle East. The attitude
of men in all areas is similarily domineering.
Do you think women do not have a raw deal in Eastern cultures and are
actually better off than their Western counterparts - what exactly is your
position and on what grounds or experience do you base it other than your
noisy pontificating.
I would reconsider your silly insults if you don't wish to keep coming off
as a complete idiot.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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: Dear She Man,
: When I say Inida, I say it loosely by referring to not only India, but
: also Pakistan and the Middle East. Specifically this situation occurs in
: some areas of southern India, Pakistan and the Middle East. The attitude
: of men in all areas is similarily domineering.
HA ha ha - since when was the middle - east a part of India? If you want
to be taken seriously atleast get your facts straight.
Where in particular has female genitale mutilation been practiced
anywhere in India or Pakistan - what are your sources if you haven't seen
it practiced first hand?
The more you evade this question - the more and more you look like a LIAR.
: Do you think women do not have a raw deal in Eastern cultures and are
: actually better off than their Western counterparts - what exactly is your
: position and on what grounds or experience do you base it other than your
: noisy pontificating.
The only one PONTIFICATING is YOU.
I never stated that indian women are better off than women from the west
WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT INDIAN MEN ARE NOT THE BRUTES AND SAVAGES YOU
MAKE THEM OUT TO BE AND THAT NON-SOUTH ASIAN MEN ARE NOT IN ANY WAY
SUPERIOR TO SOUTH ASIANS.
: I would reconsider your silly insults if you don't wish to keep coming off
: as a complete idiot.
The only idiot i see is you - making idiotic claims.
Pardee95
The point is that the attitude of men in the Middle East is very similar
to that of men in India and Pakistan, not that it is a part of India, can
you not even read?
Pardee95
I am not claiming that all Indian men are brutes, extremist such as
yourself make such assumpions, what I am saying is that some Indian men
are to the point where it is a big problem.
Interestingly, no Indian woman has said that this is untrue to this point,
only young adolescent kids like you keep refuting the point in the most
noisy manner. You seem to be saying that Indian men do not abuse their
women, and then you come back with downright stupid and filthy responses
such as "F___ your mother." And you the future of the nation, in
University supposedly civilised and getting an education - you are at the
least a pathetic joke and at worst an irritating little boy. Go home to
your momma and learn some manners before you try to have a discussion.
Sincerely,
Pardeep.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
: Again She Man Shahdra or is it Shudra or Chamaar,
: The point is that the attitude of men in the Middle East is very similar
: to that of men in India and Pakistan, not that it is a part of India, can
: you not even read?
And which SUPERIOR cast are you from that you hope to insult me by
calling me a shudra and a chamar - I'm not insulted, for chamars and
shudras are humans just like everyone else.
You racist pig - the KKK views you in same light you view shudras and
chamars.
STOP e-mailing me, GO JOIN A QUEER NEWSGROUP, you demented moron.
She-man don't you know we are in the 1990s - racism is no longer socially
acceptable.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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: Dear Shudra,
Man you must be a geeky nerdy little turd - is this the best insult you
can come up with - calling me a shudra - it only shows that you are a
racist little twit.
AGAIN - JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION:
WHERE IN INDIA AND IN WHICH COMMUNITIES IS FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION
PRACTICED???
YOU ARE EVADING THIS QUESTION BECAUSE YOU KNOW AND EVERYONE ELSE
FOLLOWING THIS THREAD KNOWS THAT YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!
Renal Bhalakia
Look who's talking about manners....A old saying goes by, "Practice
before you preach"......
>>From - Sat Mar 23 12:17:27 1996
>>From: pard...@aol.com (Pardee95)
>>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>>Date: 20 Mar 1996 06:49:31 -0500
>>Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
>>Reply-To: pard...@aol.com (Pardee95)
>
> Sincerely,
> Pardeep.
--
Renal.
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badal jateh hain sab aasaar jab ye pyar hota hain,
bina bole hi chahat ka hansiN izhaar hota hai,
khayalon ki hasiN waadi meiN jab tum gungunati ho,
meri sansoN ke dariya meiN kai toofan lati hon,
bahut bechainiyoN meiN bhi baDa aaram hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai,
zubaaN khamosh hoti hai nazar se kaam hota hai,
isi pal ka zamane mein mohabaat nam hota hai....
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Pardee95
I am not racist, we all come from the one original creator who exists in
every particle in his creation - God in everything, everything in God.
Therefore he is equally in you as in me, by being racist towards another
human I'm hating myself which does not make much sense.
If I call you a Chamaar it means for my own own amusement I am portraying
you personally as the scum of the Earth, doesn't mean I believe it, but it
certainly succeeds in keeping your feathers ruffled and your adolescent
mind inflamed. You're doing pretty good so far, keep it up.
BTW, I am not e-mailing you, o Queen of Queers, my response is only on the
newsgroup. I should post a public warning here, if you drop your keys
around Shdra Shadra, don't bend over to pick them up:)
Cheers,
Pardeep.
mcha...@signet.com.sg
am sure it was a common practice in the past in many communities,
especially in the muslim communities. It was basically started off as a
means of keeping women from enjoying sex.
Pardee95
Eastern men.
Sahdra Harjinder S
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: Dear Shudra She Man,
[ i am desperately trying to hide the fact that i am a liar ]
Fartee95, I ask you the same question:
Where in india and in which community was / is female genital mutilation
practiced?
Back up your bullshit with facts and evidence or admit that you LIED :)
Sahdra Harjinder S
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: Why is there a discussion about female circumcission in the first place.I
: am sure it was a common practice in the past in many communities,
: especially in the muslim communities. It was basically started off as a
: means of keeping women from enjoying sex.
Because, this Pardee95 girl/guy claimed that Indians mutilate the
genitals of indian women - either she LIED outright or was truly
mistaken that the middle east is a part of India!! (read her earlier
posts to find out what i'm talking about here)
Sahdra Harjinder S
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: The discussion is only about the abuse of Eastern women by a segment of
: Eastern men.
How convenient Fartee95, you were attacking INDIAN men in your original
post but when your lies were pointed out you claim you are referring to
Eastern males - you won't get away that easily.
Pardee95
Listen knicker sniffer, I'm not wasting too much time with you here
because I have a business to run and you are basically a waste of sperm.
Your dad really should have withdrawn rather than conceive you o great
parasite.
On female genatalia mutilation, check Amnesty International, check the Red
Cross, check some of the threads on some of the other Indian newsgroups
that are not discussing fluff movies, and additionally go talk to some
socioligy professors.
I did not say that the Middle East was a part of India, it says that very
clearly in my response to you. What I did say was that the Middle Eastern
men have the same mentality towards women than Indian and Pakistani men
do. If you think I said that the Middle East was a part of India, it only
further proves your downright stupidity.
As for your mentality dog breath, look at the post you sent me a few days
ago which your faculty or parents may be interested in noting:
>Subj: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>Date: 96-03-22 02:22:03 EST
>From: 4h...@qlink.queensu.ca (Sahdra Harjinder S)
>To: pard...@aol.com
>Go fuck your mother.
I highly recommend that you make love to your own mother rather than
giving such crass advice to others, because other than your right hand or
your mother, you are not going to get any action. I pity your parents,
wasting all this money on your education and look at the result. Now go
crawl back in to the hole you came out of, and I don't mean your mother.
Pardeep.
Mehul Sanghvi
>>>>> Pardee95 writes:
In article <4j0a2r$h...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pard...@aol.com (Pardee95) writes:
Pardee95> Again She Man Shahdra or is it Shudra or Chamaar,
Pardee95> The point is that the attitude of men in the Middle East is very similar
Pardee95> to that of men in India and Pakistan, not that it is a part of India, can
Pardee95> you not even read?
Well in that case change the topic of this discussion to be something like
"How Men from South-West Asia and the Indian Sub-Continent Abuse Women" or
whatever. Then take this discussion to the soc.* groups where it should
belong.
THIS DISCUSSION DOES NOT BELONG IN THE REC.ARTS.* HIEARCHY SO KEEP IT OUT OF
HERE.
mehul
Pardee95
TAKE THAT SUGAR CANE STICK OUT OF YOUR FAT ASS AND TAKE A CHILL PILL.
Pardeep.
Anand Menon
>
Mehul,
Pardeep.
*****
Pradeep,
I understand your crusade to uphold the rights of women and support it too. But
get a grip on yourself man!! I have been reading your postings and you will not
prove a point to anybody by blasting them on the net whenever you feel someone
is getting your goat. You really should not post your articles here
("rec.arts.movies.local) since this is for folks like us who enjoy movies and
entertainment.
Consider us morons but leave us alone !!. Remember this :
"One person with belief is equal to a force of ninety nine
who only have interest"............... John Stuart Mill
You are the one person so be happy!!
--
______________________________________________________________________________
******************************************************************************
Anand Menon; Product Design Engineer Ph: (313)4580716
CAE-FWD; Ford Motor Co., Fax: (313)5236052
Powertrain Operations, Livonia, MI 48150
E-Mail: ame...@tc1115.pto.ford.com
Renal Bhalakia
*******E X A C T L Y******
Pardee95
out of your flimsy puny effeminate "unable to protect your women from
Muslims" undernourished Hindu ass.
Aditya
Looks like you want to lick the sugarcane and eat it too (just kidding).
Pardee95
Ms. X
>Pradeep,
>
>I understand your crusade to uphold the rights of women and support it too.
But
>get a grip on yourself man!! I have been reading your postings and you will
not
>prove a point to anybody by blasting them on the net whenever you feel
someone
>is getting your goat. You really should not post your articles here
>("rec.arts.movies.local) since this is for folks like us who enjoy movies
and
>entertainment.
>
>
>"One person with belief is equal to a force of ninety nine
>who only have interest"............... John Stuart Mill
>
>You are the one person so be happy!!
No..she's not the one person...and the only way to talk to the guys on this
group is to talk to them in their own language....
so watch it...don't get on our wrong side...;>
Ms.X.....B.C. Canada (best place in de monde)
Ms. X
>
>I understand your crusade to uphold the rights of women and support it too.
But
>get a grip on yourself man!! I have been reading your postings and you will
not
>prove a point to anybody by blasting them on the net whenever you feel
someone
>is getting your goat. You really should not post your articles here
>("rec.arts.movies.local) since this is for folks like us who enjoy movies
and
>entertainment.
>
>
>You are the one person so be happy!!
>--
besides....this group is getting so bogged down with Rajwinder Singh and his
stupid problems and whining....when i first came on it it wasn't so bad...all
the humour seems to have gone out of it now.........:(((((
Ms.X.....has an AWESOME sense of humour....you LUCKY people..he he he
Ms. X
says...
>
>Why is there a discussion about female circumcission in the first place.I
>am sure it was a common practice in the past in many communities,
>especially in the muslim communities. It was basically started off as a
>means of keeping women from enjoying sex.
>
What is your point? That we shouldn't discuss it because its not common any
more. From what i've read its still quite common, especially in African
countries and many eastern countries..though not too common in Punjab (among
sikhs anyway). I dont think its a muslim practice per se, but a middle
eastern one...the ancient Egyptians practiced it quite frequently..
Bye!...:))))
Ms.X....knows you are wanting to read an insightful comment after her
signature but can't think of one right now..sorry!...he he he
Ms. X
>
>Followup-To:
soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc,rec.arts.movies.local.indian,soc.cul
ture.bengali,soc.culture.indian.marathi,soc.culture.indian.delhi
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>
>Pardee95 (pard...@aol.com) wrote:
>: The discussion is only about the abuse of Eastern women by a segment of
>: Eastern men.
>
>How convenient Fartee95, you were attacking INDIAN men in your original
>post but when your lies were pointed out you claim you are referring to
>Eastern males - you won't get away that easily.
Whatever.....and your use of the term "Fartee" is not clever...its stupid and
annoying....and accusing someone of being a liar just because you found a
small inconsistency between two postings (which has NOTHING to do with the
original issue..) is petty and self-serving and pompous....
Grow up
Ms.X. don't like pompous Indian men......
Ms. X
>
>Kennedy a murderer? Clearly, I can find faults with the man, but murderer
>is a bit harsh. After all, his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis may
>well have averted nuclear holocaust.... This "dead white male, ergo
>murderer" thing is getting a bit old. Give credit where credit is due.
HIS handling???.more like the handling of his advisors...i doubt he averted a
nuclear holocaust, in fact he may have increased the chances by "not
blinking"..he took a gamble and won...no more no less...
now British Columbian Socialism...there's something to worry yourselves
over...
If anyone out there is in B.C....ask yourselves if BCTV is giving you the
real news. One of their top reporters is the BROTHER of Campbell...is that
unbiased reporting???????
Ms.X...........apologizes to non B.C.'ers for her ranting...
Pardee95
doofuses on this group - livens up the day.
Pardeep.
"The more people I meet, the better I like my dog."
Suresh Kumar
writes:
|> Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
|> Date: 28 Mar 1996 13:08:21 -0500|> Lines: 6
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|> References: <4jd520$35...@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA>
|> Reply-To: pard...@aol.com (Pardee95)
|> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com
|> Xref: news.corp.sgi.com soc.culture.indian:299014
|> rec.music.indian.misc:39591 rec.arts.movies.local.indian:3731
|> soc.culture.bengali:23890 soc.culture.indian.marathi:16463
|> soc.culture.indian.delhi:9205 soc.culture.indian.telugu:39507
|> soc.culture.tamil:5882|> 6 soc.culture.punjab:31064
|> alt.culture.karnataka:20558
Does that mean you need total obedience from whoever you come in contact
with?
You must like your dog a lot by now,just judging by your recent few posts
in SCIT.
Do you ever stop to wonder what your dog thinks of you? as to why he/she is
getting so much more every day?
Suresh
--
Pardee95
I have not implied in any way that I require total or partial obedience in
any way shape or form in any post, that is your basic insecurity and
inferiority complex rising to the surface of your mind.
Also, you doofus, I don't have a dog, I put that little quote in there
specifically because of comments made by pricks like you who have no valid
or objective opinion about anything, choosing instead to merely piss in
the beer.
There are those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and
those who wonder what happened. You don't even belong in the third
category, never mind the first two. Now go back to your little hole unless
you actually have an opinion on an actual topic of any importance, I think
you must be some emaciated geeky looking virginal little guy, that is the
type that normally writes snide and smug little comments such as yours.
Pardeep.
Ms. X
>
>In article <4j8udf$4...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, amenon says...
>>
>
>>I understand your crusade to uphold the rights of women and support it too.
>But
>>get a grip on yourself man!! I have been reading your postings and you will
>not
>>prove a point to anybody by blasting them on the net whenever you feel
>someone
>>is getting your goat. You really should not post your articles here
>>("rec.arts.movies.local) since this is for folks like us who enjoy movies
>and
>>entertainment.
>>
>
>>
>>You are the one person so be happy!!
>>--
>
She is not the only person...i agree with her too...
.....it seems you guys are fond of informing the women on this group that
"they are the only ones.."....everytime a woman tries to tell the truth of
how women really feel about this culture......feeling threatened.
There are more immediate problems other than what is going on thousands of
miles away....just becasue you men were coddled by your culture does not mean
that the women on this group were too.....every time an angry woman makes her
point known on this group the males get all twitchy and nervous....
Ms.X.........thinks the women on this group ahould get a little more
aggressive in their postings...(..except for Pardee...;>..who rocks...)
Pardee95
Thanks for your comment. I am a guy though and still curious as to the
identity of that masked marvel and caped wonder Ms. X, who are you
mysterious lady?
Sincerely,
Mr. Z
smita pappu
missed all the good stuff, could some one fill me in whaat is going on
Mehul Sanghvi
>>>>> Pardee95 writes:
In article <4jbdsv$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pard...@aol.com (Pardee95) writes:
Pardee95> Hey punk, someone else is cross posting so take that big sugar cane stick
Pardee95> out of your flimsy puny effeminate "unable to protect your women from
Pardee95> Muslims" undernourished Hindu ass.
Well followup to this post as much as you want pal!!!!!
Coz it aint showing up here in RAMLI or RMIM any more.
And keep your sugar cane fantasies to yourself.
mehul
Mehul Sanghvi
>>>>> Pardee95 writes:
In article <4jg8po$1...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> pard...@aol.com (Pardee95) writes:
[ Pardeep's rantings deleted ]
For cryin'g out loud there have been enough people telling to get out of the
rec.arts.* groups, yet you still persist. What's the matter can;t read what
being posted here ?? Well read this ... any more posts from you in the wrong
groups and I'll start forwarding them to PoatM...@aol.com and
NewsM...@aol.com along wiht some of your previous posts.
So change the distribution of your postings .....
mehul
Mili
>From: smita pappu <pa...@popalex1.linknet.net>
>Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
>hey guys i guess since i just subscribed to this newsgroup just now, i
>missed all the good stuff, could some one fill me in whaat is going on
not hard to do. evryone has been bashing evryone else . they have totlaly
deviated from the topic at hand and the attacks are personal. if i were u i
would stay out of it. ' mili'
Pardee95
Indian women are beautiful, others are not. Same applies to men.
Ms. X
says...
>
>
>Does that mean you need total obedience from whoever you come in contact
>with?
>You must like your dog a lot by now,just judging by your recent few posts
>in SCIT.
>
>Do you ever stop to wonder what your dog thinks of you? as to why he/she is
>getting so much more every day?
???????????????....meaning of the last line is lost on me...??
Ms.X.
>
>
>Suresh
>--
>
Pardee95
Mehul Sanghvi
>>>>> smita pappu writes:
In article <4jpnn0$9...@news.linknet.net> smita pappu <pa...@popalex1.linknet.net> writes:
smita> hey guys i guess since i just subscribed to this newsgroup just now, i
smita> missed all the good stuff, could some one fill me in whaat is going on
you didnt miss much except insanley, childishly, moronic crap from a some
lluny bin with an email address of pard...@aol.com. as an example of the
kind of stuff IT has put out on the net as well as my mailbox (i am sure there
are others) i've included IT's most recent post.
Smita, I am reading you article in rec.arts.movies.local.indian. Is this the
newsgroup you have subscribed to ?? In that case you really havent missed much
since the subject of the thread is misleading. this was a topic that belonged
in the soc.culture.* groups. You should look in there if you are interested.
As for the moron who is using pard...@aol.com as he/she/it's email address,
I've forwarded copies of your email to PostMaster and NewsMaster at Aol.com.
I do not appreciate one bit receiving crap like your in my mailbox. It was a
post by you that brought this thread into the rec.arts.* groups. You were
asked to change the distribution of the thread, by several people including
myself. At no point have I been insulting to you. Yet you persist in
insulting anyone who responds to your articles. In not one of your posts have
you not insulted the person who responded to your article. It is is morons
like you (i would have used people but that would be giving you too much
credit as a human being), who give other folks at aol.com a bad name.
Lucky for you the CDA part of the Telecom Bill is held up in court right
now. Otherwise I would have forwarded this to the Justice Dept. as well.
mehul
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From: pard...@aol.com
To: mehul
Reply-To: pard...@aol.com (Pardee95)
Subject: Re: Beautiful Indian Women. A MUST READ......
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:34:21 -0500
Hey you homosexual faggot, it's not me cross posting, so get a life or at
least a wife instead of your right hand.
Sincerely,
Pardeep.
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