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Ek THI LADKI ('49)........Dilli sey aaya bhai tingu...........

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S.Jayaraman

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Mar 13, 2002, 12:32:20 AM3/13/02
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Hello RMIMers:

Still no answers forthcoming. That is why I always insist that mere
books and directories containingsong info is good,but meaningless for
an 'avid connoisseur'.Unless you HEAR the song personally with your
ears and mind from some source or the other,its just USELESS !

For this very reason, it has been my very earnest attempt (it is still
going on)to apprise every RMIMer,repeat every RMIMer; of our wonderful
Indian cine music heritage and provide them with some sort of source
of hearing/listening to many of these melodies of the period,1931-70
alongwith a brief commentary or info about the song.

I had dispatched a cassette containing some 40 to 45 such melodies in
the form of "only jhalaks" through Mr. Chetan Vinchhi of NJ for the
benefit of all RMIMers. To this date, I am just unable to get in touch
with him for ascertaining the present status of the 'job' entrusted to
him for the benefit of the NG.

Could any one pursue this matter with him and cooperate with him to
make the'job' a success !

Do keep me posted at my ID (separately preferred also) alongwith any
querries you may have from time tio time).


Jai
13/3

Anindya

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Mar 13, 2002, 5:36:59 AM3/13/02
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sjh...@yahoo.com (S.Jayaraman) wrote in message news:<7136b5fd.02031...@posting.google.com>...

> Hello RMIMers:
>
> Still no answers forthcoming. That is why I always insist that mere
> books and directories containingsong info is good,but meaningless for
> an 'avid connoisseur'.Unless you HEAR the song personally with your
> ears and mind from some source or the other,its just USELESS !

hmmm...profound.

but whatever happened to Tingu Mingu brothers...they sure are taking a
long time coming. In case they are still on the Rajdhani Express, do
let me know - I'll inform my Dadar/Mumbai colleagues to receive them
at the station...can't bear this suspense anymore (haven't slept for
*five* full nights!)

Anindya

surjit singh

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Mar 13, 2002, 9:33:22 AM3/13/02
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sjh...@yahoo.com (S.Jayaraman) wrote in message news:<7136b5fd.02031...@posting.google.com>...
> Hello RMIMers:
>
> Still no answers forthcoming. That is why I always insist that mere
> books and directories containingsong info is good,but meaningless for
> an 'avid connoisseur'.Unless you HEAR the song personally with your
> ears and mind from some source or the other,its just USELESS !

If you are going to decide solely by EARS as to who sang a particular
song, you are not on a very firm ground. We know, for example, that
A's and K's ears hear differently.

Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(aic), period.

P Dasgupta

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Mar 13, 2002, 3:07:23 PM3/13/02
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surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote:

> If you are going to decide solely by EARS as to who sang a particular
> song, you are not on a very firm ground. We know, for example, that
> A's and K's ears hear differently.
>
> Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(aic), period.

As if the mystery and suspense surrounding the singers
of "Dilli se" was not enough, now you have given RMIM-ers
another poser of guessing who A and K might be. Are these
A and K HFM singers?

I have a small request...since so "much" has been said about
this song, could someone who has heard the song kindly write
down the second line of the song. I am just curious to know
what the theme of the song might be.

Thanks
-Prithviraj

Aashish Thakker

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Mar 13, 2002, 3:24:08 PM3/13/02
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the song goes something like this (note : non-itransed lyrics and perhaps
some words might not be right so please correct)


dilli se aaya bhai tingu
tingu ka bhai chingu
aur uska bhai shingu, shingu
dilli se aaya bhai tingu

tingu tha jara patla patla
chingu tha jara chota chota
shingu tha jara mota mota
teeno they pakke yaar , yaar pakke yaar
ho bedardi aur loha (?)
mare hai ding ding dingu
dilli se aaya bhai tingu

teeno nikale maal road par
matak matak kar chalte the
ahaha ohoho rama paanv patak kar chalte they
ohoho ahaha rama paanv patak kar chalte they
matak matak kar matak kar paanv patak kar matak kar
haatho me.n daale haath
phirte they saath saath
gaate they ye ek baat
hindustan hamara hai yeh
sab duniya se nyara hai
hindu muslim sikh isaayi
sab ki aankh ka tara hai
dilli se aaya bhai tingu

regards,
Aashish

Ket...@att.net

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Mar 13, 2002, 8:10:16 PM3/13/02
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In article <7136b5fd.02031...@posting.google.com>, sjh...@yahoo.com
says...

>
>Hello RMIMers:
>
>Still no answers forthcoming. That is why I always insist that mere
>books and directories containingsong info is good,but meaningless for
>an 'avid connoisseur'.Unless you HEAR the song personally with your
>ears and mind from some source or the other,its just USELESS !

Here is an option. Why don't you put up audio clips of all your songs. In that
way we can "enlighten" ourselves and give you the satisfaction you so badly
want.


Ketan

surjit singh

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Mar 14, 2002, 12:21:59 AM3/14/02
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prith...@yahoo.com (P Dasgupta) wrote in message news:<fc0bc0a7.02031...@posting.google.com>...

> surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote:
>
> > If you are going to decide solely by EARS as to who sang a particular
> > song, you are not on a very firm ground. We know, for example, that
> > A's and K's ears hear differently.
> >
> > Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(aic), period.
>
> As if the mystery and suspense surrounding the singers
> of "Dilli se" was not enough, now you have given RMIM-ers
> another poser of guessing who A and K might be. Are these
> A and K HFM singers?

Sorry. K was a misprint for B.

Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.

Ashok

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Mar 14, 2002, 2:25:52 AM3/14/02
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In article <fc0bc0a7.02031...@posting.google.com>, prith...@yahoo.comŸ says...

>
>surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote:
>
>> If you are going to decide solely by EARS as to who sang a particular
>> song, you are not on a very firm ground. We know, for example, that
>> A's and K's ears hear differently.
>>
>> Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(aic), period.
>
>As if the mystery and suspense surrounding the singers
>of "Dilli se" was not enough, now you have given RMIM-ers
>another poser of guessing who A and K might be. Are these
>A and K HFM singers?

>-Prithviraj


Singers? The statement is about ears and hearers.
It is obviously Arunabha and Ketan. Or maybe, equally
obviously, Avachat and Kohli. Anil and Kalra. ....


Ashok


Vijay Kumar K

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Mar 14, 2002, 3:15:37 PM3/14/02
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ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote in message news:<a6pja...@enews1.newsguy.com>...
> In article <fc0bc0a7.02031...@posting.google.com>, prith...@yahoo.com&#376; says...
A is so obviously Anil.... he of the tin-ear fame :-)

Vijay

Vijay Kumar K

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Mar 14, 2002, 3:25:07 PM3/14/02
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Aashish Thakker <th...@cyberdude.com> wrote in message news:<3C8FB568...@cyberdude.com>...
Aashish, Aashish... you are certainly NOT making my life any easier... when you
know iTRANS, why not use it? Especially when I have not heard the song and
cannot figure out if you mean "Di.nguu" or "di.nguu", "ram" or "raam" or
"raamaa"
The rest of it is easier, though. Expect to see it in the next ISB release.

Vijay

Aashish Thakker

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Mar 14, 2002, 6:10:40 PM3/14/02
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Vijay,
my bad.......here are the lyrics in ITRANS....
as for the audio of the song...I have the song on a video tape and will try to find it (been almost
two years since I last heard this song)...if I am able to hunt it down I will digitize the audio. If
there is sufficient interest in people wanting to view the video I can digitize that as well.

in the p-stat column....i am not sure who the lyricist is...and the singer info should be avlbl
shortly as and when Mr Jayamaram posts the answers to his quiz.

regards,
Aashish

%
\startsong
\stitle{dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu}%
\film{Ek Thi Ladki}%
\year{1949}%
\singer{N/A}%
\music{Vinod}%
\lyrics{N/A}%
%
% Contributor: Aashish Thakker
% Transliterator: Aashish Thakker
% Date: 14th March, 2002
%
\printtitle
#indian
%

dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii chi.nguu
aur uskaa bhaaii shi.nguu shi.nguu
dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu

Ti.nguu thaa jaraa patalaa patalaa
chi.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa chhoTaa
shi.nguu thaa jaraa moTaa moTaa
tiino.n the pakke yaar , yaar pakke yaar
ho bedardii aur (lohaa?)
maare hai Dii.ng Dii.ng Dii.nguu
dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu

tiino.n nikale maal ##road## par
maTak maTak kar chalate the
aahaahaa ohoho raamaa paa.Nv paTak kar chalate the
ohoho aahaahaa raamaa paa.Nv paTak kar chalate the
maTak maTak kar maTak kar paa.Nv paTak kar maTak kar
haatho.n me.n Daale haath
phirate the saath saath
gaate the ye ek baat
hindostaa.N hamaaraa hai ye
sab duniyaa se nyaaraa hai
hi.ndu musalim sikh isaayii
sab kii aa.Nkh kaa taaraa hai
dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu

%
#endindian
\endsong
%

S.Jayaraman

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Mar 15, 2002, 12:46:23 AM3/15/02
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You are right,perfectly right. Thats precisely what I wanted to do and
swung into action during Dec/2001 when I got in touch with Mr.Chetan
Vinchi of NJ who had come down to Mumbai for Christmas holidays.

I entrusted him with a job for the benefit of all RMIMers of this NG,
dispatching with him a cassette containing clippings of various and
colourful melodies of Indian cinema ('31 to '70) for all you people.To
this day, he has not responded me for ascertaining the status of the
job entrusted with him.

Tell me now, what should I do??????


Jai
15/3

( PLEASE EMAIL ME SEPARATELY ON MY ID)

P Dasgupta

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Mar 15, 2002, 3:19:53 AM3/15/02
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ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
> >surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote:
> >
> >> If you are going to decide solely by EARS as to who sang a particular
> >> song, you are not on a very firm ground. We know, for example, that
> >> A's and K's ears hear differently.
> >>
> >> Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(aic), period.
> >
> >As if the mystery and suspense surrounding the singers
> >of "Dilli se" was not enough, now you have given RMIM-ers
> >another poser of guessing who A and K might be. Are these
> >A and K HFM singers?
>
> >-Prithviraj
>
>
> Singers? The statement is about ears and hearers.
> It is obviously Arunabha and Ketan. Or maybe, equally
> obviously, Avachat and Kohli. Anil and Kalra. ....
>
>
> Ashok

I see, before the clarifications I had seriously thought that
SurjitS (given the nature of his instructional posts) was
referrring to some article in the Listener's Bulleins
or the like.

-Prithviraj

Anindya

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Mar 15, 2002, 8:52:13 AM3/15/02
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sjh...@yahoo.com (S.Jayaraman) wrote in message news:<7136b5fd.02031...@posting.google.com>...

but what happened to TIngu Mingu? Gawd, I'm worried sick about those kids.

Anindya

Chetan Vinchhi

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Mar 15, 2002, 11:35:36 AM3/15/02
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"S.Jayaraman" <sjh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You are right,perfectly right. Thats precisely what I wanted to do and
> swung into action during Dec/2001 when I got in touch with Mr.Chetan
> Vinchi of NJ who had come down to Mumbai for Christmas holidays.
>
> I entrusted him with a job for the benefit of all RMIMers of this NG,
> dispatching with him a cassette containing clippings of various and
> colourful melodies of Indian cinema ('31 to '70) for all you people.To
> this day, he has not responded me for ascertaining the status of the
> job entrusted with him.

Dear Shri Jayaraman,

You are talking - in your usual manner befitting a pompous and
incredibly presumptuous jerk - as if I owe you something. Let me
make myself absolutely clear here. I did meet you in Mumbai last
December and you did give me a cassette of jhalaks. But I now
sincerely regret having mentioned in passing that I can try to
find out how to upload the songs to a website. Let me repeat
what I have said recently on this newsgroup (what do you
expect, you idiot? You ask me for explanations on the n.g.
But you don't read my followups and *assuming* that I have
not responded, proceed to sling aspersions at me). I have not
gotten around to figuring out how to do it since I don't have
the time. Please feel free to find out some other "bakaraa"
for the job and I will be glad to mail your precious cassette
to him/her.


> Tell me now, what should I do??????

There are many choicest suggestions that present themselves
readily, but...

C

Sudhir

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Mar 16, 2002, 6:43:36 PM3/16/02
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'Door Se Aaye The Sun Ke Tingu-Mingu Ka Naam
Bas Chale Jaate Hain, Bina Jaane Mummy Ka Naam'


Adios Tingu ji

Adios Mingu ji


Sudhir

S.Jayaraman

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Mar 17, 2002, 12:53:31 AM3/17/02
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"Chetan Vinchhi" <vin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<a6t7un$5...@nntpb.cb.lucent.com>...
Hello Chetan:

I thank you sincerely for replying me for the 'first time' since I
last met you.
I thank you once again for promptly dispatching my cassette to
Surendra Batish promptly.

I also thank you very much for bestowing such lofty compliments on me.

With best wishes,
Jai
17/3

Gurcharan Sandhu

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Mar 17, 2002, 6:47:37 PM3/17/02
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sjh...@yahoo.com (S.Jayaraman) wrote in message news:<7136b5fd.02031...@posting.google.com>...

Mr. Jayaraman,

Here again, your antics suggest you expect some unwary 'phoren' 'bakraa' to
rig-up a website for you as a freebee so that you may ensnare the NRIs into
your web.

But just remember that in Europe or USA , nor anywhere else for that
matter,money does not grow on trees. I suggest you try some other planet.

Gurcharan Sandhu

Afzal A. Khan

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Mar 18, 2002, 2:20:14 PM3/18/02
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Reminded me of the old poem : Babes in the Wood


Afzal

Chetan Vinchhi

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Mar 18, 2002, 5:17:02 PM3/18/02
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"S.Jayaraman" <sjh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I thank you sincerely for replying me for the 'first time' since I
> last met you.

Once again, moron, I *did* post a brief followup to your previous
query directed specifically to me. I reproduce the article from a
google search below. If you don't believe me (which is quite
likely given your tendencies) you can go repeat the search
yourself.

<begin quote>

From: "Chetan Vinchhi" <vin...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: zaraa sun lo ham apane pyaar kaa
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:44:46 -0500

"S.Jayaraman" <sjh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> So ! How are things with you? How far have you reached with the
> 'Jhalak' cassette I gave you?

I have not yet figured out how to upload the contents to a website.
In any case, I have not been able to spend much time on it after
my return from India. I will keep you posted...

C

<end quote>


> I thank you once again for promptly dispatching my cassette to
> Surendra Batish promptly.

Don't mention it. No, really, don't ever mention this or anything
else to me, please. I don't want gratitude or condescension or
badgering or enligtenment from you.

> I also thank you very much for bestowing such lofty compliments on me.

If it still hasn't gotten through your thick skull, I have called you
an idiot, a moron, a presumptuous jerk and have meant all of it
most sincerely. So snap out of it, nobody is paying you any
compliments here. And a piece of friendly advice (although the
time for such niceties may have passed) - don't live under the
illusion that people are fooled by your false show of modesty.
You are not fooling anyone but yourself.

C

Aashish Thakker

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:08:47 PM3/20/02
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alrighty, finally managed to dig up the video tape.......the audio can be heard at

http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/dilliseaaya.mp3

maybe some of you can listen to it and modify the lyrics accordingly (i think Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii is
pii.nguu and not chi.nguu...)

video coming up over the weekend....

regards,
Aashish

P Dasgupta

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Mar 20, 2002, 11:57:09 PM3/20/02
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Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote:

Thanks for the lyrics and the song. One
correction in the "?" you had is below.
Couple of minor ITRANS changes also.

-Prithviraj

> \startsong
> \stitle{dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu}%
> \film{Ek Thi Ladki}%
> \year{1949}%
> \singer{N/A}%
> \music{Vinod}%
> \lyrics{N/A}%
> %
> % Contributor: Aashish Thakker
> % Transliterator: Aashish Thakker
> % Date: 14th March, 2002
> %
> \printtitle
> #indian
> %
>
> dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu

"bhaa_ii" throughout.

> Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii chi.nguu
> aur uskaa bhaaii shi.nguu shi.nguu

usakaa

> dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
>
> Ti.nguu thaa jaraa patalaa patalaa

"zaraa" throughout

> chi.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa chhoTaa
> shi.nguu thaa jaraa moTaa moTaa
> tiino.n the pakke yaar , yaar pakke yaar
> ho bedardii aur (lohaa?)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
dhobii da.rzii aur lohaar

> maare hai Dii.ng Dii.ng Dii.nguu
> dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
>
> tiino.n nikale maal ##road## par
> maTak maTak kar chalate the
> aahaahaa ohoho raamaa paa.Nv paTak kar chalate the
> ohoho aahaahaa raamaa paa.Nv paTak kar chalate the
> maTak maTak kar maTak kar paa.Nv paTak kar maTak kar
> haatho.n me.n Daale haath
> phirate the saath saath
> gaate the ye ek baat
> hindostaa.N hamaaraa hai ye

"hi.ndustaan" perhaps?

Surajit A. Bose

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Mar 21, 2002, 12:09:33 AM3/21/02
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In article <fc0bc0a7.02032...@posting.google.com>,
prith...@yahoo.com (P Dasgupta) wrote:

> Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the lyrics and the song. One
> correction in the "?" you had is below.
> Couple of minor ITRANS changes also.

> >

> > dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
>
> "bhaa_ii" throughout.
>

Not necessarily. "bhaaii" is perfectly correct and is properly rendered
by the iTrans engine.

Incidentally, I agree with Aashish that the second brother is "pi.nguu"
and not "chi.nguu".

-s

SKalra902

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Mar 22, 2002, 10:18:42 AM3/22/02
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Just saw S. Jayaraman's post that it was Minal Wagh who was the singer for this
number.

My question to Mr. Jayaraman: What is the source for this determination?

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

naniwadekar

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Mar 24, 2002, 3:44:43 PM3/24/02
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Aashish Thakker had posted these lyrics -

>
> dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
> Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii chi.nguu
> aur uskaa bhaaii shi.nguu shi.nguu
> dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
>

"Surajit A. Bose" <sb...@saintmarys.edu> added -


>
> Incidentally, I agree with Aashish that the second brother is "pi.nguu"
> and not "chi.nguu".
>

Geet Kosh lists first line as - 'Dilli se aayaa bhai pii.nguu (not Tingu)'.
I cross-checked with Hamraaz, who has told me over email that
the first 2 lines, as listed in the film's booklet are -

Dilli se aayaa bhaai Pingu,
Tingu kaa bhaai Pingu ...

I am sure all of us will decide differently after listening to
the song which words the singer has uttered. BUT .. please do
bear in mind that the lines as listed in the film booklet
aren't logically impossible. Keep
reading them until you convince yourself of that point. Imagine
that Tingu could have been dead by the time this song appeared
in the film, and the plausibility of the booklet lyrics is
apparent. Of course, nobody has died as later ...
'teeno nikale maal road par'

Now to the identity of the singer.

Hamraaz has corroborated my source's claim that the song was
sung by HONEY. Was it the singer's nick-name?

Jayaraman says the singer is Minal Wagh, presumably choosing to
believe what his ears tell him. Maybe he is right. Urzung says
the singer is Mrs Vishni Lal. He heard this claim on a radio
programme. Mrs VishniLal's voice in 'badi bhool hui' from Magroor
(joint MDs - Bulo C Rani and Ram Panjwani) has a slow and
heavy movement. Though I won't rule her out on the evidence of just
one song, I do doubt that the singer is Mrs VishniLal.

- dn

Aashish Thakker

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Mar 25, 2002, 4:28:35 AM3/25/02
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naniwadekar wrote:

> Aashish Thakker had posted these lyrics -
> >
> > dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
> > Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii chi.nguu
> > aur uskaa bhaaii shi.nguu shi.nguu
> > dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
> >
>
> "Surajit A. Bose" <sb...@saintmarys.edu> added -
> >
> > Incidentally, I agree with Aashish that the second brother is "pi.nguu"
> > and not "chi.nguu".
> >
> Geet Kosh lists first line as - 'Dilli se aayaa bhai pii.nguu (not Tingu)'.
> I cross-checked with Hamraaz, who has told me over email that
> the first 2 lines, as listed in the film's booklet are -
>
> Dilli se aayaa bhaai Pingu,
> Tingu kaa bhaai Pingu ...
>
> I am sure all of us will decide differently after listening to
> the song which words the singer has uttered. BUT .. please do
> bear in mind that the lines as listed in the film booklet
> aren't logically impossible. Keep
> reading them until you convince yourself of that point. Imagine
> that Tingu could have been dead by the time this song appeared
> in the film, and the plausibility of the booklet lyrics is
> apparent. Of course, nobody has died as later ...
> 'teeno nikale maal road par'
>

I think I *may* know the reason why the Geet Kosh might be listing the song as
dillii se aayaa bhaaii Pingu and not Tingu.....

I have digitized the video and it is a hefty 10mb download. It can be obtained
at http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/dilliseaaya500kbps.rm

In the video if you notice there is female singer on stage. When she sings
"dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu" she seems to make the action signifying a thin
man (evident by pointing out her index finger and the line "Ti.nguu thaa zaraa
patalaa") and when she sings "Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii Pi.nguu" her actions suggest
that Pi.nguu is actually a shortie (i.e. tinguu)

however, if you listen to the song carefully you can hear the singer say


Ti.nguu thaa jaraa patalaa patalaa

Ti.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa chhoTaa -> instead of Pi.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa
chhoTaa

in the second line the Ti.nguu is very distinct......from the flow of the song
it should be Pi.nguu ...altho as the geet kosh suggests the brothers are (in
order) Pi.nguu, Ti.nguu and Shi.nguu

I would be interested in knowing the opinion of others after they view the
video clip.

For those who wish to burn a Video CD of this video so that they can view it on
their DVD players, please do let me know...I can make a VCD-formatted version
of this video clip available as well.

regards,
Aashish

surjit singh

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Mar 25, 2002, 2:12:53 PM3/25/02
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Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote in message news:<3C9EEDC3...@usc.edu>...

Hi Aashish:

Thanks for posting the video clip. Got to see miinaa shorii of 1949.

I hear

dilli .... pinguu
Tinguu kaa ... pinguu

In the first line she says brother without explaining whose or what
kind of brother. The second line then explains that Tinguu's brother
pinguu is meant. This implies that the audience already knows about
Tinguu.

Surjit etc., a diehard etc.

Sudhir

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Mar 25, 2002, 4:01:25 PM3/25/02
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On the 78 rpm record, the wordings are:


Dilli Se Aaya Bhai Tingu
Tingu Ka Bhai Pingu

Aur Us Ka Bhai Shingu


i.e.: The siblings are: Tingu, Pingu and Shingu


I have not seen the film, but it seems that the film version may be
slightly different.

Sudhir

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Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote in message
>

Gurcharan Sandhu

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Mar 25, 2002, 6:27:36 PM3/25/02
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surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote in message news:

> >
> > > Aashish Thakker had posted these lyrics -
> > > >
> > > > dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
> > > > Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii chi.nguu
> > > > aur uskaa bhaaii shi.nguu shi.nguu
> > > > dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu
> > > >
> > > I quite agree that the first brother is Tingu, the second one
is Pingu, not so clearly heard in the beginning until you really
pay attention. However listen towards the very end the same lines
where there is no doubt, even to deaf ears, that Pingu is heard.
Chingu is never mentioned.

Also enjoying himself, sitting at the table to the left of lovely
Meena Shorey, is the young comedian I.S. Johar.

Does anyone know which actress, the singer on the screen, the song
is picturised on?

Aashish ji, thanks for the excellent video clip. Yes we would love
to watch this again in VCD format. On large screen the lip movement
will also clarify when and how many times Pingu is mentioned.

Regards

Gurcharan Sandhu

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Mar 25, 2002, 8:01:11 PM3/25/02
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Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote:

One more doubt after listening/seeing the song:

> tiino.n nikale maal ##road## par

Is it 'maal ##road##' or is it '##Mall Road##'?
Besides, why would a 'lohaar' and a 'da.rzii'
take their 'maal' out on the road?

Another related question...where is the song taking
place? Many towns like Darjeeling, Nainital,
Mussourie had a road of this name. A web-search
revealed Lahore too has(had) a Mall road.

-Prithviraj

Aashish Thakker

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Mar 25, 2002, 8:35:01 PM3/25/02
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Gurcharan Sandhu wrote:

>
> Also enjoying himself, sitting at the table to the left of lovely
> Meena Shorey, is the young comedian I.S. Johar.
>
> Does anyone know which actress, the singer on the screen, the song
> is picturised on?
>
> Aashish ji, thanks for the excellent video clip. Yes we would love
> to watch this again in VCD format. On large screen the lip movement
> will also clarify when and how many times Pingu is mentioned.
>

Please call me Aashish :)

and Thank you for pointing out I S Johar!!

The VCD formatted mpeg clip can be downloaded from
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/dilliseaaya-vcd.mpg (right click and select Save As) Please
note that this clip is about 28 MB so it might take a while to download for those on a
slow connection. Also, my source for this is an old (10 to 12 years) VHS tape in PAL
format that has gathered so much grime in bombay that the white label has actually gone
black!! I have lost further quality on conversion to NTSC. However, the clarity is
still slightly better than the real media clip.
Enjoy!

Regarding the singer on screen...I do not know who it is.

regards,
Aashish

Surajit A. Bose

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Mar 25, 2002, 8:36:05 PM3/25/02
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In article <3C9EEDC3...@usc.edu>,
Aashish Thakker <atha...@usc.edu> wrote:


> I have digitized the video and it is a hefty 10mb download. It can be
> obtained at http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/dilliseaaya500kbps.rm

Gee, thanks. Like Gurcharan Sandhu, I too am curious to know who the
actress is; she has a great stage presence.

> In the video if you notice there is female singer on stage. When she sings
> "dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu" she seems to make the action signifying a
> thin
> man (evident by pointing out her index finger and the line "Ti.nguu thaa
> zaraa
> patalaa") and when she sings "Ti.nguu kaa bhaaii Pi.nguu" her actions suggest
> that Pi.nguu is actually a shortie (i.e. tinguu)

Actually I think she says

dillii se aayaa bhaaii Ti.nguu

pi.nguu kaa bhaaii Tinguu

which is why she says

> Ti.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa chhoTaa -> instead of Pi.nguu thaa jaraa chhoTaa
> chhoTaa

Actually she says "pi.nguu thaa jaraa patalaa patalaa", it's Ti.nguu
who's the chhoTaa one. Which is semantically consistent.

-s

naniwadekar

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Mar 25, 2002, 10:11:39 PM3/25/02
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surjit...@yahoo.com (surjit singh) wrote -
Re. dilli se aaya bhai tingu - tinguka bhai pingu

>
> In the first line she says brother without explaining whose or what
> kind of brother.
>
Methinks the word 'bhai' in the first line does not qualify the
guest from dilli, unless the singer means that the guest is her
brother. The word is used as a cross between a figure of
speech and a mode of addressing the listener.
'suno bhaa_ii_yo, dilli se tingu aayaa hai'.

> The second line then explains that Tinguu's brother
> pinguu is meant. This implies that the audience already knows about
> Tinguu.
>

- dn

SKalra902

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Mar 25, 2002, 10:50:03 PM3/25/02
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IIRC, the song was picturized on a hotel stage, with a few orchestra hands
providing "live" accompaniment, on a lady who just sang that song in the film.


Delhi also has a Mall Road, unless they have changed its name.

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

SKalra902

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Mar 27, 2002, 11:00:36 AM3/27/02
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All this debate going re. the song Dilli se aayaa bhaaii Tinguu... prompted me
to dig out my VHS copy of the film, and watch the song repeatedly last night,
until 2.30 am. Here are my 2 cents on the subject.

The three brothers are Tinguu, Pinguu, and Shinguu, mentioned in that order in
the song, everytime the singer names them. And I think Dr. Surjit Singh
correctly pointed out that the names are very clearly discernable towards the
end of the song. I paid special attention to the formation of the lips
whenever Tinguu is mentioned, and I would be honest to admit that there was no
closeup to clearly show the lip formation. But at the same time, I did not see
the lip formation to categorically say that the first brother mentioned is
Pinguu. And since the order is clearly Tinguu, Pinguu, and Shinguu at the end
of the song, I will go by those names.

The song appears immediately after a 'magic' show by Gogia Pasha. It is
picturized on a young lady who is introduced by one of the hotel's orchestra
hands as "Miss Kirnaa". That name does not appear in the titles of the film.
The only names that do appear in the titles are, in that order: Meena (sole
credit on full screen), Motilal, Kuldip, Majnu, Johar, Shakuntala, Satish
Batra, Sham Lal, Moti Bina, and Agha Miraj. Every one besides Meena shares the
screen for their names being listed from top to down, in that order, with the
first four names in bigger font.

Besides I.S. Johar, the other guy sitting with Meena Shorey in the song
situation is Majnu. Johar and Majnu made quite a comedy pair those days.
Folks may still remember their "Hum Sab Chor Hain" and the title song
picturized on them. Johar is also credited with the dialogues and screenplay
of Ek Thi Ladki. Knowing that he was a 'permanent' hand for Filmistan, he
might have written the story/dialogues/screenplay also for Hum Sab Chor Hain,
which he himself directed. I say that since the basic, just the basic story
line for both the films is similar (what else is new?).

Even though the discussion is on the song Dilli se aayaa bhaaii...., and the
film's most famous and popular song is "Laara Lappaa..", I must add here that
there is another duet gem in the film by Lata and Rafi, "Ab haal-e-dil yaa
haal-e-jigar kuchh na puuchhiye..".

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

Sudhir

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:00:04 PM3/27/02
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Plus comedian: Majnu

I.S. Johar and Majnu later teamed-up for the film: Hum Sab Chor Hain
(no controversy on this point !)


Sudhir

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Balaji A.S. Murthy

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Mar 28, 2002, 1:41:33 PM3/28/02
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In article <5bb9021d.02032...@posting.google.com>, sud...@yahoo.com says...

AFAIR, I.S.Johar featured in the next Shorey film Ek Do Teen (1953) too. That
had Motilal, Meena and Majnu too. In fact, IIRC, Johar had a fairly large role
there.

- Balaji

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