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Bhanwra songs under SD Burman

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Ritu

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Jun 28, 2006, 2:57:29 AM6/28/06
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Hi Folks,

I was revisiting SDB output this last week-end with another music lover
and he pointed out that 'Bhanwra' must have been our old man's
favourite word/character. While the 'bhanwara' along with the 'chakor'
and 'papiha' it is a very popular motif in our filmy poetry, it appears
with an amazing regularity in SD Burman songs esp the ones he sang
himself. Wonder if any other composer had such a propensity for the
bumble bee?

Just for kicks I thought it would be fun to have a compilation of his
bhanwara songs. Here is the list I have mustered (Hindi + Bengali). Can
you please add on? I am only taking the songs where
'bhanwra/bhanwar/bhromor' come in the mukhda.

Songs sung by SD Burman
1. Dheere se jaana bagiyan mein re bhanwra
2. Nishithey jaio phoolboney o bhromora
3. Phooler boney thaako bhromor
4. Jaani bhromara keno kotha koi na
4. Mere jauvan ki phulwari mein bhanwara tu kyon aata hai
5. Ud gaya bhanwara kali udaas

Other singers under SDB's baton
1. Gun gun gun gun bole re bhanwar (Suraiya, Afsar)
2. Gun guna rahe hain bhanwre (Asha/Rafi, Aradhana)
3. Dil ka bhanwar kare pukar (Rafi, TGKS)
4. O mere Bairagi Bhanwara (Lata, IPZN)

Any other songs?

Cheers
Ritu

Asif

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Jun 28, 2006, 9:20:07 AM6/28/06
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1. Dheere se jaana khatiyan mein (Chhupa Rustom, 1973) - KK trails off
this song with 'o re bhanwra'.

Asif

Animesh K

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Jun 28, 2006, 3:07:18 PM6/28/06
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One [bad song] that comes to my mind is: gunagunaa rahe.n hai.n bha.Nware khil
rahii hai kalii kalii


Best,
A

V S Rawat

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Jun 28, 2006, 4:07:01 PM6/28/06
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Animesh K wrote:

Learn to read the original posts carefully.

> > > 2. Gun guna rahe hain bhanwre (Asha/Rafi, Aradhana)

--
Rawat

Vinaya...@gmail.com

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Jun 28, 2006, 7:36:23 PM6/28/06
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Dear Ritu

One more from Lata song of SDB in Buzdil.

mai.n alabeli rum jhum rum jhum baaje ghu.Ngar moraa
sau sau phere maare piichhe ruup kaa lobhii bhava.Nvaraa

Agree, the word bha.Nvaraa comes very late in the mukhaDaa, but I think
it qualifies as a legitimate bha.Nwara song.

P.S.1. Since I have written from memory, one or two words in the second
line are not correct. Hope someone corrects.

P.S. 2 I can write about bha.Nvaraa songs of Roshan, but some other
time.

Vinayak

Kaustubh Pingle

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Jun 29, 2006, 1:57:05 AM6/29/06
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Gunjone Dole Je Bhromor - Aradhana (Bengali)

sks...@gmail.com

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Jun 29, 2006, 12:37:35 PM6/29/06
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A search on "Bhanvre" at RMIM got me these :

"Ud Ja Ud Ja Pyase Bhanvre" from "Dekhi Zamane Ki Yaari"

Since the stock of bhanwaras is over from SDB, let me see if there are
any more from other gardens, but didn't find much :

1. Bhanvre Ki Gunjan Hai Mera Dil - Kal Aaj Aur Kal / SJ
2. Bhanvre Ne Khilaya Phool - Prem Rog/ LP
3. O Bhanvre - Daud/?

Anyway, I don't understand, what has the composer to do with the
selection of the Bhanvra ;) Lyricist bhanvra de ya kabootar, unko to
compose karna hain :))

BTW, "Bhanvra Bada Naadan Hain" is one of my most favourite song,
specially the interludes. The interlude has some resemblence to an
antra from "Yaar Dildaar Tujhe Kaisa Chahiye".

Re,
Kamaal

Manish Wadhane

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Jun 30, 2006, 5:07:48 AM6/30/06
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Another non-SDB bhanwra song is
"baag mein kalee khilee, bagiyaan mahakee
par haay re abhee idhar bhanwaraa naheen aayaa"

-Manish

Kamaal

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Jun 30, 2006, 5:24:05 AM6/30/06
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Koi baat nahi, S.C.Baug waale Bhanvre ko S.D.Baug mein aane ki ijaazat
hai, magar L.P.Baug se hargiz koi Bhanvra yaha par phool na khila paaye
itna khayal rakhna Manish :)

For SKS Gardening Contractors Ltd.
Sd/-
KM

V S Rawat

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Jun 30, 2006, 12:37:51 PM6/30/06
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sks...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anyway, I don't understand, what has the composer to do with the
> selection of the Bhanvra ;) Lyricist bhanvra de ya kabootar, unko to
> compose karna hain :))
>
>

> Re,
> Kamaal

arey Kamaal bhai, ek minute.

aap shaayad RDB par aTake huye hain jo gulzar ke tedhe-medhe lyrics par
song compose kara karate the.

But, other than RDB+gulzar combo, almost all MDs compose the song
first, and then the lyricist writes some words on that tune.

So there, If SDB has composed some tune in which Bhanwaraa/ bhramar/
aalii can be fitted, but kabootar/ kauwaa/ tiDDaa/ chooha can't be
fitted, then the credit indeed goes to SDB's, and not to the lyricists
skills. Probably that was the intention of the original poster.

what say? SJ ko sunane waale logic ki aisi hi Galatii karane lag jaate
hain. ab aapane the great naushad ko sunanaa shuru kiyaa hai, thode din
mein aap theek ho jaayenge. :-)

--
Rawat

Ritu

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Jun 30, 2006, 2:37:23 PM6/30/06
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sks...@gmail.com wrote:
> A search on "Bhanvre" at RMIM got me these :
>
> "Ud Ja Ud Ja Pyase Bhanvre" from "Dekhi Zamane Ki Yaari"
>
> Since the stock of bhanwaras is over from SDB, let me see if there are
> any more from other gardens, but didn't find much :
>
> 1. Bhanvre Ki Gunjan Hai Mera Dil - Kal Aaj Aur Kal / SJ
> 2. Bhanvre Ne Khilaya Phool - Prem Rog/ LP
> 3. O Bhanvre - Daud/?
>
> Anyway, I don't understand, what has the composer to do with the
> selection of the Bhanvra ;) Lyricist bhanvra de ya kabootar, unko to
> compose karna hain :))

Shouldn't have any. But when a single motif appears with such
regularity under a single composer then koi kya inference nikale?
Probably that the concerned composer had a 'madhumati ka chhatta' in
his home that inspired all lyricists to write about the bumble bee? :)

And then composers actually have a stronger say in lyrics than we
realise esp. for songs that are written after the tune was composed.
Remember Neeraj being given detailed specifications for 'Rangeela Re'?
Many other such cases. The terminology usually used is
'shailendra/sahir/whoever se geet likhwaya'.


Anway... getting back to other bhanwara songs by other composers here
is my favourite list.

1. Gun gun gun gun bole bhanwarva (Parul Ghosh, Anil Biswas)
2. Gun gun gun gun gunjan karta bhanwra (Geeta Dutt, ?)
3. Bhanwara bada nadaan hain (Asha, SBAG)
4. Bhanwre ki gunjan hai mera dil (Kishore, SJ)
5. Kali Kali Mandalye Bhanwara (Noorjehan, Khurshid Anwar)

CHeers
Ritu

P.S Please stay tuned for Chakor and Papiha next!

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Jun 30, 2006, 3:28:26 PM6/30/06
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Ritu wrote:

> 2. Gun gun gun gun gunjan karta bhanwra (Geeta Dutt, ?)

>From Anandmath, IIRC.

No one mentioned "bumbro" yet? That song has the highest usage of the
word in question.

> P.S Please stay tuned for Chakor and Papiha next!

You mean as in the way some bengalis sing: "mohe chakor rakho ji";)

-pdg/

Kamaal

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Jul 1, 2006, 5:22:05 AM7/1/06
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Being a Naushad fan, I know that he must be definitely having a
stronger say in the lyrics of his songs.

Lekin jab se maine Burmanda ka awaaj Aasaa ka legend series mein suni
tab se thora doubt hui ki Burmanda ko Hindi/Urdi mein thora mushkil
hain saayad.

Re,
Kamaal


Ritu wrote:

> And then composers actually have a stronger say in lyrics than we
> realise esp. for songs that are written after the tune was composed.
> Remember Neeraj being given detailed specifications for 'Rangeela Re'?
> Many other such cases. The terminology usually used is
> 'shailendra/sahir/whoever se geet likhwaya'.

> CHeers
> Ritu

AR

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Jul 1, 2006, 10:59:09 AM7/1/06
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Geez! Ritu quoting a Noorjehan song as one of her favourites! :-)

Am I really seeing what I am? :-)

Manish Wadhane

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Jul 2, 2006, 3:36:07 AM7/2/06
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> Koi baat nahi, S.C.Baug waale Bhanvre ko S.D.Baug mein aane ki ijaazat
> hai, magar L.P.Baug se hargiz koi Bhanvra yaha par phool na khila paaye
> itna khayal rakhna Manish :)

Woh to aapne pehle se hi khila diya hai Kamaal bhai, Prem Rog wala song
list karke :-)

-Manish

Ritu

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Jul 3, 2006, 3:59:56 AM7/3/06
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Maybe it's because of Khurshid Anwar ;). I did not recognise you
though. Is that Pulkit or Priya?

Cheers
Ritu

Amarendra

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Jul 3, 2006, 8:26:38 AM7/3/06
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How about
phulavaa ban mahake dekho lahake Daalii-Daalii
bha.Nvaraa kare phere, mohe ghere, arii aalii

And a delightful SDB song has a reference in an antara :
Daalii-Daalii phirate hai.n harajaa_ii
lobhii bha.Nvaro.n ne kab priit nibhaa_ii
yuu.N hii sab karate hai.n bahaanaa

-Amarendra

Amarendra

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Jul 3, 2006, 9:14:29 AM7/3/06
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V S Rawat wrote:
>> So there, If SDB has composed some tune in which Bhanwaraa/ bhramar/
>> aalii can be fitted,

Are there any SDB songs with the word aalii used to mean
bha.Nvaraa/bhramar ?
And how about other composers' songs ?
giitaayan shows a song from Vidyapati (posted by you) that has this
usage (a.Nganaa me.n aaye aalii) .
In all the other instances I know of , aalii is used to mean sakhii .
(Another song from Vidyapati has this usage : ambuvaa kii Daalii-Daalii
, jhuum rahii hai aalii )

-Amarendra

Ritu

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Jul 3, 2006, 9:24:04 AM7/3/06
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Amarendra wrote:
> How about
> phulavaa ban mahake dekho lahake Daalii-Daalii
> bha.Nvaraa kare phere, mohe ghere, arii aalii

Delightful example! It should be way on the top of any list on bhanwras

>
> And a delightful SDB song has a reference in an antara :
> Daalii-Daalii phirate hai.n harajaa_ii
> lobhii bha.Nvaro.n ne kab priit nibhaa_ii
> yuu.N hii sab karate hai.n bahaanaa

Aha! If we go into the stanzas we'll get another 15 songs :).


Cheers
Ritu

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