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Narayan Raman

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Jan 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/31/97
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Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
directors??? or is there anyone in the making????

Narayan

RSavar

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>Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
>directors??? or is there anyone in the making????

>Narayan

Lata Mangeshkar has composed music for quite a few popular Marathi movies.
She used the name 'Aanadaghan'.

- Nilesh


Surajit A. Bose

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Jan 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/31/97
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In article <NRaman-3101...@134.68.94.32>,
NRa...@indyunix.iupui.edu (Narayan Raman) wrote:

> Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
> directors??? or is there anyone in the making????

Apart from Lata Mangeshkar (who BTW is as good a composer as she is a
singer) and Ashima Chattopadhyay, in Hindi films too there have been
others:
*Sharada of "titali uDii" fame was the MD for either Nai Imarat or Maila
Aanchal, can't remember which.
*Minoo Purushottam was the MD for some movie too
*Sarasvati Devi was a well-known MD back in the 1950s.
*Kishori Amonkar has composed the music for Drishti. "saavaniyaa sanjhaa
me.n" is one of the best songs to come out of the 1980s, and in fact could
crack into a list of the best film songs of all time. Raghunandan
Panshikar's voice is terrific.

Anup

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Jan 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/31/97
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In article <bose.2-3101...@tty65.tc1.nd.edu>, bos...@nd.edu says...

Thanks Surajit for this list. You can also include Sudha Malhotra(great
singer herself)in this list. She gave music in Didi(had song "Tum mujhe
bhuul bhi jaao to ye haq hai tum ko") and what an evergreen song it is.

While we are at it, would anyone please also give add to the names of women
lyricists that I have (want to ack. contribution of Ashok and faintly remember
Ketan's post reg. this)

1) Maya Govind - Many movies. I think may be her best effort is song "Nainon
mein darpan hai", MD:Bhupen Hazarika; still writing insignificant songs for
some new movies)

2) Saba Afghani(I am assuming she is woman by name) - The song that I know
is SumanK's classic "Mere mehboob na jaa aaj ki raat na jaa" from movie
"Noor Mahal". She has written some ghazals in Jagjit/Lata's Sajda album.

Cheers
Anup

Arnab Gupta

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Feb 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/1/97
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>>Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
>>directors??? or is there anyone in the making????
>
>>Narayan
>
>Lata Mangeshkar has composed music for quite a few popular Marathi movies.
>She used the name 'Aanadaghan'.
>
>- Nilesh

Ashima Chattopadhyay (not sure whether I am getting the surname right)
has got to her credit quite a decent number of hit musical compositions.
She composed music for Bengali films ...the most famous being `Chowringhee'.

Thanks,
Arnab.


Dev Mannemela

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Feb 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/1/97
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In article <5cu5i4$2...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,


Well, in the south Bhanumathi has composed music for movies.
So has S.Janaki for ("Mouna poratam" ?).
And the child prodigy M.M.Sri Lekha.


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Pavan Kumar Desikan

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Feb 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/1/97
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Surajit A. Bose (bos...@nd.edu) wrote:
: *Sarasvati Devi was a well-known MD back in the 1950s.
^^^^^
Do you mean 30's or 40's? What are her movies in the 50's?

--
Pavan Kumar Desikan

Chetan

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Feb 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/3/97
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>>Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
>>directors??? or is there anyone in the making????
>
>>Narayan
>
>Lata Mangeshkar has composed music for quite a few popular Marathi movies.
>She used the name 'Aanadaghan'.


quite a few = 5, I think.

btw, there is an HMV release titled "Anandaghan" which has about a dozen
songs md'd by Lata. Opening track is "airaNicha deva tula...".
The tape also includes Hridaynath singing "shoor amhi sardar..."
and Lata's "akhercha haa tula danDa..."

All the songs are very very good. Makes me wish she had composed more !

C

Neha Desai

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Feb 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/3/97
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>>>Hi Netters, Apart from Usha khanna are there any other women music
>>>directors??? or is there anyone in the making????
>>
>>>Narayan

One name that would come to mind is Sudha Malhotra who was a singer herself.
I think she composed for "Didi" which has a wonderful duet by her and Mukesh.

"tum mujhe bhool bhi jaao tou ye haq hai tumko...
meri baat aur hai...maine tou mohabbat ki hai..."

Does anyone have more insight into where Sudha Malhotra is nowadays(if she
is alive)?

Regards,
Neha
-----------------------------------------------------
rang-rangili duniya mein hain...rang rang ke dhoke...
do din ki jeevan maaya...isko na gawana ro ke..
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Surajit A. Bose

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Feb 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/3/97
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In article <5d591v$f...@clarknet.clark.net>, cvin...@telogy.com (Chetan) wrote:

> >Lata Mangeshkar has composed music for quite a few popular Marathi
> >movies. She used the name 'Aanadaghan'.
>
>
> quite a few = 5, I think.

AFAIR, just four. Maratha Tituka Melvava (1963), Mohityanchi Manjula
(1963), Saadhi Manse (1965), Taamdi Mati (1969). D'you know of a fifth
that I'm unaware of, Chetan?

>
> btw, there is an HMV release titled "Anandaghan" which has about a dozen
> songs md'd by Lata. Opening track is "airaNicha deva tula...".
> The tape also includes Hridaynath singing "shoor amhi sardar..."
> and Lata's "akhercha haa tula danDa..."

It's an absolutely wonderful CD. Lata is as great a composer as she is a
singer--can there be higher praise? Her compositions are reminiscent of
Hridaynath's. I mean in his Marathi songs--his Hindi songs somehow seem to
lack that spark of genius that sets his Marathi tunes ablaze.

One amazing thing about some of Lata's songs is how impossible they are to
sing. "vaaT paahunii jiiva shiiNalaa" is an example. It's difficult to
sing, but that's not exactly what I mean. Even if one had a voice that
could capture all the trills, glides, and swoops perfectly, the song
without its accompaniment would not come across as particularly good, or
even pleasant. The melody that accompanies the words themselves doesn't
amount to much. What makes the song so terrific (IMHO the best one on the
CD) is the complete integration of voice, percussion, and instrumentation.
The voice is just part of the minimalist ensemble; it's the playing-off of
voice against ektara, ghungroo, and especially percussion that makes the
entire composition take off.

(I should clarify that the "ektara" isn't really an ektara--it's that
stringed folk lute that sounds vaguely sarangi-like. The instrument that
Sandhya is supposed to be playing/selling in "Do Aankhen Baara Haath" when
she sings "saiya.N jhuuTo.n kaa baDaa sartaaj niklaa." What's it called?)

I think that such an integrated composition is a brilliant way of working
around the intractable lyrics, clotted with the harshest consonants. Let's
face it:

vaaTa paahunii jiiva shiiNalaa
disaa maguni disa TaLalaa
survyaa aalaa TaLapuun gelaa
maavaLatiichyaa KhaLigaaLyaalaa,
gaDaNii, saKhe, gaDaNii

--isn't exactly euphonius in itself. In fact it's the kind of poetry that
finds a perverse beauty amongst the ugliest sounds. (There's nothing quite
equivalent to Marathi's "L" and "N" in Hindi--the corresponding sounds are
much softer in the latter language.) Lata's composition tackles the
deliberately rough edges of Yogesh's poem with an equal deliberation,
noticeable in the refusal of melody and rhythm to settle into a fixed
resolution. Even the quality of her own voice seems less polished, less
sweet than usual--every time I hear the song I get a shock on realizing
that it IS Lata, and not Usha Mangeshkar. (Usha, generally, is a unique,
underused singer; perhaps her diamond-in-the-rough voice would in fact
better suit the song?) Of course what makes the gritty union of the
whole--words, voice, instruments--so brilliant is that it's an effect
worked for and achieved, and yet seems so natural. "raajaachya
ra.ngamhalii," the Lata-Usha duet, achieves a similar effect.

It's really quite surprising that Lata didn't/doesn't compose more,
particularly since the songs were, and are, very successful commercially.
"airaNiichya deva," "baii baii manamoracha kasaa pisaaraa phulalaa,"
"akherchaa haa tulaa danDavata," and the wonderfully provocative laavNi
"reshamaachya reghyani" (Asha, of course), are hugely popular even today.

Another notable thing about the songs, perhaps to be expected, is that
they're an all-in-the-family sort of deal. The singers: Lata mostly; in
decreasing order after that, Hridaynath (two solos, one ensemble), Usha
(one brilliant duet with Lata, one ensemble), Asha (one solo), and, not so
surprisingly when you think about it, Hemant Kumar (one ensemble). Anybody
interested in Lata (Neha, suntii ho!), and any non-Marathi speaker
open-minded enough to recognize greatness when s/he hears it, ought to get
a hold of this.

cheers,
-sab

hnk...@pitt.edu

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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Chetan wrote:


> btw, there is an HMV release titled "Anandaghan" which has about a dozen
> songs md'd by Lata. Opening track is "airaNicha deva tula...".
> The tape also includes Hridaynath singing "shoor amhi sardar..."
> and Lata's "akhercha haa tula danDa..."

I always thought "airanicha Devaa" was MD'd by Hridaynath and not
lata. Can someone please confirm?

-Hema.

Vish Krishnan

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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At 11:14 PM 2/3/97 -0500, Surajit wrote:


>AFAIR, just four. Maratha Tituka Melvava (1963), Mohityanchi Manjula
>(1963), Saadhi Manse (1965), Taamdi Mati (1969). D'you know of a fifth

>.................................

Lata as Lata has done some music over and above Ananda Ghana's count
of 4.

Her first project as composer was for Dinkar Patil's RAAM RAAM PAAHUNA
(1953), and I thought that was it. Now there are movies (or even non-
movie assignments) from the non-Hindi, non-Marathi world that are showing
up. "Lata Mangeshkar" has composed Bengali songs, and a couple of them
are available in a Kishore Kumar 2-pack (cassette). Are they from movies?
I don't remember.

A few songs from RAAM RAAM PAAHUNA are also to be found on EMI releases
of Marathi Chitrapat Sangeet (don't recall any titles offhand). It is
interesting how her 1953 alignment with Chitalkar and Vasant Prabhu
evolved to be so Hridayanath-like in the '60s.

cheers
vish


Ikram Ahmed Khan

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Feb 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/4/97
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Pavan Kumar Desikan wrote:
>
> Surajit A. Bose (bos...@nd.edu) wrote:
> : *Sarasvati Devi was a well-known MD back in the 1950s.
> ^^^^^
> Do you mean 30's or 40's? What are her movies in the 50's?

I seem to remember a female MD of the 40s or so.
Composed for some songs that AshokK sang. He said, that
she would make the singer (him, in this case) repeat each
part of a line endlessly, and then move on to the next
part. Somehow, the name 'Khurshid' is associated in my
mind with that lady MD. Can somebody help?

Later,
Ikram.
>
> --
> Pavan Kumar Desikan

ava...@informix.com

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In article <5d5dpc$s...@lana.zippo.com>, umd...@cc.umanitoba.ca says...

>Does anyone have more insight into where Sudha Malhotra is nowadays(if she
>is alive)?

Not any insight, but my sight told me once that she is alive :-) assuming
of course that the SaReGaMa people don't invite ghosts to become judges. :-)
Looked as if she is in her late 40s. Quite young compared to Asha/Lata.
But, it's not easy to guess a woman's age. They try so hard to hide it. :-)

- Abhay.

Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon

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ava...@informix.com writes:

> >Does anyone have more insight into where Sudha Malhotra is
> > nowadays(if she is alive)?

> Not any insight, but my sight told me once that she is alive :-)
> assuming of course that the SaReGaMa people don't invite ghosts to
> become judges. :-) Looked as if she is in her late 40s. Quite young
> compared to Asha/Lata. But, it's not easy to guess a woman's
> age. They try so hard to hide it. :-)

Usha Khanna's debut was for 'Dil deke dekho' at which time she
was but 16 years old, so Abhay's estimate of her age is quite correct.

Interestingly enough, this was a record for the youngest MD in
Hindi films which finally got broken by another woman composer a few
years back; when 15.5 years old Kavita Paudwal completed a film late
dad Arun had signed and got credit for it.

Ciao,

ND

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