Ay mere himala mujhe - Man ki Jeet
rkk...@gmail.com
the famous song ' nagri meri kab tak yun hi barbad rahegi '
Some where in the lyrics there is a sentence ' ay mere himala mujhe ye
baat bata de '
What is the meaning of the word ' Himala ' in the song .
The song is available on Prof's web courtesy Late Hemchandra Jain .
Ram
Vinay
> I am referring to the song ' ay chand umeedon ki ' the second part of
> the famous song ' nagri meri kab tak yun hi barbad rahegi '
>
> Some where in the lyrics there is a sentence ' ay mere himala mujhe ye
> baat bata de '
> What is the meaning of the word ' Himala ' in the song .
I would think the song is talking about the mountain 'himaalay/
हिमालय'. himaalaa/हिमाला is an alternative pronunciation that you can
listen in some other songs too of that era. It is more or less
outdated and obscure now.
UVR
I'm not sure about "outdated and obscure". In the Hindustani/Urdu
side of things, it's still quite "in."
Modification of the suffix "-aalay" to "aalaa" is also seen in
'shivaala.' A famous poem by Dr. Iqbal is titled 'naya shivaala'.
Note, however, that shivaala, although it's adapted from shivaalaya,
isn't specifically a Shiva temple, I don't think.
-UVR.
Ahmad
Yes, as Vinay has said, just slightly changed from Himalaya to as it
is easier to sing "Himala".
I think the film was called "Pyar ki jeet", I saw it when it came out
around 1945. The story was adopted from the english novel "Tess of
the d'Urbervilles" by Thomas Hardy as many would know. A great novel
by this great English writer.
I have seen several versions of this novel onTV and films. Always
good to watch.
Ahmad
Vinay
> On Oct 2, 1:40 pm, Vinay <vinaypj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 2, 4:21 pm, rkk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > I am referring to the song ' ay chand umeedon ki ' the second part of
> > > the famous song ' nagri meri kab tak yun hi barbad rahegi '
>
> > > Some where in the lyrics there is a sentence ' ay mere himala mujhe ye
> > > baat bata de '
> > > What is the meaning of the word ' Himala ' in the song .
>
> > I would think the song is talking about the mountain 'himaalay/
> > हिमालय'. himaalaa/हिमाला is an alternative pronunciation that you can
> > listen in some other songs too of that era. It is more or less
> > outdated and obscure now.
>
> > > The song is available on Prof's web courtesy Late Hemchandra Jain .
>
> > > Ram
>
> I'm not sure about "outdated and obscure". In the Hindustani/Urdu
> side of things, it's still quite "in."
>
True. However, if we talk about HFM, the 'himaalaa' pronunciation is
far from "in". Heck, it has not been so for a long time. I will be
surprised to find many examples of that pronounciation in songs of
last 40 years.
The only instance I could found in a quick search is:
kahaa.N re himaalaa aisaa kahaa.N aisaa paanii ('prem ke pujaarii'
from Prem Pujari) by Neeraj. This was in 1970.
OTOH, you will find umpteen examples of the word pronounced as
'himaalay' since and before then.
Vinay
> Modification of the suffix "-aalay" to "aalaa" is also seen in
> 'shivaala.' A famous poem by Dr. Iqbal is titled 'naya shivaala'.
> Note, however, that shivaala, although it's adapted from shivaalaya,
> isn't specifically a Shiva temple, I don't think.
>
> -UVR.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Srinivas Ganti
Typing on behalf of ML Kapur who is sitting besides me in Denver.
He happens to have LP and 78 RPM of both the songs and has seen the
movie twice.
The line is "ai mere hi maula" and the movie is Man Ki Jeet and on LP
its written
"Mun Ki Jeet". The music was by S.K Pal and Lyrics were by Josh
Mahilabadi.
The screen name of the singer on 78 rpm is Neena,
Geetkosh mentions Sitara and on LP its Tara Lucknawi.
Srinivas.
Srinivas.
uzx
'himala' is correct.
-urzung khan
Srinivas Ganti
I posted on behalf of ML Kapur that the words are
"ay mere hi malua mujhe ye baat bata de "
More details later.