Sonu Nigam
Satish Subramanian
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Sonu Nigam
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Sonu Nigam, the young, talented, and upcoming singer, had his first
major hit in "Bewafaa Sanam" (MD: Nikhil-Vinay). The song was intially
recorded as part of a non-film album by T-series. After seeing the
sales of the cassette, Gulshan Kumar (of T-series) decided to make a
film out of it. The movie was a surprise hit of 1995. Sonu Nigam's
song in it was one of the major reasons for the success of the film.
The song was:
"achchhaa silaa diyaa tune mere pyaar ka
yaar ne hi looT liya ghar yaar ka!"
Before this break he was mostly into singing cover versions of Rafi's
original songs and other albums for T-series. He has quite a few of
cassettes in the 'Yaadein: Rafi' series. Apparently he has also sung
in many of the recent T-series movies.
Then came the program "Sa Re Ga Ma" (sponsored by TVS) on Zee-TV. The
program's goal is to find new singing talent. The idea of the program
is itself credited to Sonu Nigam. Earlier when he was the host of an
antakshari program he felt that a particular singer in one of the
shows should also be declared the best singer of the show. But the
producers said that antakshari was not about who sings best, but about
who sings the most. He thought it was unfortunate that good talent can
not be appreciated. So he started the "Sa Re Ga Ma" program which was
created solely to select the best singer through fair competition. The
show is a big success. Doordarshan tried a "Meri Awaaz Suno" program
on the lines of "Sa Re Ga Ma", but it lacks the touch that Sonu's
presence gave to "Sa Re Ga Ma". As a bonus he also gets to display
his singing talents on the show (either when he is pointing out a
mistake or just singing along with the contestants).
Next came an even bigger break and a great song in "Papa Kehte Hai".
Rajesh Roshan had him singing the beautiful "mujhse naaraaz ho to ho
jaao", which was loosely based on an old Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur duet
(Don't remember which one. Probably Roshan's "maine ae jaan-e-wafa
tumse mohabbat ki hai"), the cover version of which Sonu had just
recorded. Unfortunately (!) Rajesh Roshan and Javed Akhtar packed
"Papa Kehte Hain" with some great melodies (a rarity), and people
don't seem to see beyond the opening Udit solo. The solos in movie
are:
Ghar se nikalte hi - Udit Narayan
Ye jo thoDe se hai paise - Kumar Sanu
Mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jaao - Sonu Nigam
Pehle pyaar ka pehla gham - Kavita Krishnamoorthy
All these are great songs, and Sonu Nigam's song definitely stands out
among these. Certainly a singer with a lot of merit.
--
satish
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Song: mujh se naaraaz ho to ho jaao, khud se lekin khaafa khaafa na raho
Film: Papa Kehte Hain
Stars: Jugal Hansraj, Mayuri, Anupam Kher
Singer: Sonu Nigam
MD: Rajesh Roshan
Lyrics: Javed Akhtar
mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
mujhe tum door jao to jao, aap apne se tum judaa na raho
mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
mujh pe chaahe yakeen karo na karo, tumko khud par magar yakeen rahe
sar pe ho aasmaan yaa ke na ho, pair ke neeche ye zameen rahe
mujhko tum bewafaa kaho to kaho.
mujhko tum bewafaa kaho to kaho, tum magar khud se bewafaa na raho
mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao
aao ik baat main kahoon tumse, jaane phir koi ye kahe na kahe
tumko apni talaash karni hai, humsafar koi bhi rahe na rahe
tumko apne sahaar jeena hai.
tumko apne sahaar jeena hai, dhoondthi koi aasraa na raho
mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
--
bye
satish
Ashok
In article <4mr76c$3...@epx.cis.umn.edu>, <subr...@cs.umn.edu> writes:
> > Sonu Nigam
>
> Next came an even bigger break and a great song in "Papa Kehte Hai".
> Rajesh Roshan had him singing the beautiful "mujhse naaraaz ho to ho
> jaao", which was loosely based on an old Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur duet
> (Don't remember which one. Probably Roshan's "maine ae jaan-e-wafa
> tumse mohabbat ki hai"), the cover version of which Sonu had just
> recorded. Unfortunately (!) Rajesh Roshan and Javed Akhtar packed
> "Papa Kehte Hain" with some great melodies (a rarity), and people
> don't seem to see beyond the opening Udit solo. The solos in movie
> are:
>
> Ghar se nikalte hi - Udit Narayan
> Ye jo thoDe se hai paise - Kumar Sanu
> Mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jaao - Sonu Nigam
> Pehle pyaar ka pehla gham - Kavita Krishnamoorthy
>
> All these are great songs, and Sonu Nigam's song definitely stands
> out among these. Certainly a singer with a lot of merit.
>
> --
> satish
Thanks, satish, for the nice write-up. As you can guess, that's just a
prelude to comments and disagreements! :)
1. Perhaps you were away, Sanjeev and Chandel had identified the song,
on which "mujh se naaraaz ho to ho jaao" is based. It is the Rafi -
Suman duet composed by Madan Mohan for 'Jahan Ara.' And the
connection between the two isn't all that loose! The 'Jahan Ara' song
(by Rajender Krishan) is:
baad muddat ke ye ghaDi aayi (a)
aap aae to zindagi aayi (b)
ishq marmarke qaamayaab hua (c)
aaj ek zarraa bhi aafataab hua (d)
Compare with
mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao (A)
khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho (B)
muj se tum door jao to jao (C)
aap apne se tum judaa na raho (D)
Lines (A) = (C) are speeded up versions of (a) = (b). Lines (B) = (D)
are similarly of line (c). The stanzas of the newer song are more
loosely based on the Rafi stanzas of the earlier song.
Note that the 'Jahan Ara' song was well-regarded, but not a hit.
2. I wouldn't call the Kavita K. and the Sanu solos great. The Kavita
song is at least moderately interesting, but I find the the Sanu song
to be eminently forgettable.
3. Sonu Nigam does seem to get at the soul of Rafi-ish singing, which
could not be said of the erstwhile Rafi clones. But doesn't it still
make him just a Rafi clone (albeit a better one)? He might even be a
better singer than Udit Narayan (some of the vocal acrobatics in the
Udit song are quite childish and intrusive, while Sonu does pull of
many Rafi-like flourishes well). From the point of view of clearing
out a unique path for oneself, I'd say Udit Narayan is the more
interesting singer. In any case, there are perhaps limits to how good
a clone Sonu or anyone can be of Rafi. Listening to the two songs
back to back, one feels like telling Sonu Nigam, "Young man, you are
no Rafi."
Ashok
Vish Krishnan
Satish Subramanian (subr...@cs.umn.edu) wrote:
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: Sonu Nigam
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
: Sonu Nigam, the young, talented, and upcoming singer, had his first
: major hit in "Bewafaa Sanam" (MD: Nikhil-Vinay). The song was intially
: recorded as part of a non-film album by T-series. After seeing the
: sales of the cassette, Gulshan Kumar (of T-series) decided to make a
: film out of it. The movie was a surprise hit of 1995. Sonu Nigam's
: song in it was one of the major reasons for the success of the film.
: The song was:
: "achchhaa silaa diyaa tune mere pyaar ka
: yaar ne hi looT liya ghar yaar ka!"
: Before this break he was mostly into singing cover versions of Rafi's
: original songs and other albums for T-series. He has quite a few of
: cassettes in the 'Yaadein: Rafi' series. Apparently he has also sung
: in many of the recent T-series movies.
: Then came the program "Sa Re Ga Ma" (sponsored by TVS) on Zee-TV. The
: program's goal is to find new singing talent.
I was in India about 6 weeks back, and had an opportunity to watch a Z-TV
recording of SA RE GA MA. It was a children's special with Ranu Mukherji
judging the contest. The oldest kid was probably 14. I was simply not ready
for the shocking performances. All the participants, without exception, had
poise, stage presence and intelligence, and above all, unadulterated talent.
The choice of songs was noteworthy too. The first contestant picked Rehman's
"Tu Hi Re". I just happen to like the song a lot, and this little kid's
handling of the soft note was breathtaking. As good as he was, the second
contestant overshadowed the first, and everyone else, in a wonderfully
balanced rendition of "Dil Hoom Hoom Kare". The voice carried the tune, had
enough but controlled lung power behind it, and was emotionally in with the
song. Utterly impressive. The third singer surprised me a bit when he said
he was learning music from Kalyanji. I thought the composer was no more.
In any case, he was a good example of an excellent voice but probably not
enough power. All that aside, he sang "Akele Hain Chale Aao, Kahaan Ho", and
did a well above average job.
The program also features a "judge's selection" round that means what it says.
Contestants get to sing a song picked by the judge. If they don't know the
song, they can ask for another and so forth. Ranu Mukherji made the honest
disclosure that she had walked in with a kiddie list of songs that was rendered
invalid after what she heard in the first round! So, just off the top of her
head, she made some '90s song suggestions, and here is where for the first
time I heard the "Pehla Nashaa" song (from some recent release scored for by
a latter-day hyphenated pair - Jatin-Lalit??).
Still haven't heard the original version of "Pehlaa Nashaa", but I already
know that the Hindi movie music scene is going to turn around for the better
- some day. The electronically uplifted backdrop may never make way for its
simpler accoustic forerunners, but melody will return. How's that for an
expression of hope!!
In yet another standard feature of the programme, the orchestra picks a scale,
and the moderator then picks a song. The contestant must now sing the selected
song on that key. It is an interesting round and sometimes a tough one.
There are some corner case Hindi songs with enough room for confusion in
the "home base" department. I also feel that this particular round of the
contest is somewhat unfair to the female voice. Nevertheless, the idea is
fresh, and it is always a great feeling to witness the whole process. One
almost gets into the contestant's shoes, particularly for those corner case
exceptions.
I had also watched earlier rounds of SA RE GA MA in 1995, and my impression
of Sonu Nigam the moderator has evolved. In this 1996 round, he seemed to
have less of a "filmi" air about him. His reaction to people in "music" trouble
was more empathetic, and he was supportive without being parental. Overall,
there was less of Sonu Nigam the individual performer/singer in the show. In
a very recent round (that I have not watched yet), the judge was none other than
OP, my friend. Apparently, Sonu Nigam posed the age-old Lata Mangeshkar
question to him, and the composer described the dulcet Lata tone as being made
for better things than the "shokhiyaana andaaz" of his tunes. No bitterness, no
regrets, and even if it unintentionally became a somewhat negative statement
on Asha's voice, I am sure he carried it with his usual professional flair.
The ever-gracious diplomat!
cheers
vish
Satish Subramanian
Ashok <ADhar...@WorldBank.Org> wrote:
> Sanjeev and Chandel had identified the song, on which "mujh se
> naaraaz ho to ho jaao" is based. It is the Rafi - Suman duet
> composed by Madan Mohan for 'Jahan Ara.' And the connection between
> the two isn't all that loose! The 'Jahan Ara' song (by Rajender
> Krishan) is:
> baad muddat ke ye ghaDi aayi (a)
> aap aae to zindagi aayi (b)
> ishq marmarke qaamayaab hua (c)
> aaj ek zarraa bhi aafataab hua (d)
I haven't heard the "Jahan Ara" original (nor the "Bedaag" song that I
had guessed), but will take your word for it. I did trace out one
article by Sanjeev on this song. Here are some relevant portions:
--
Sanjeev wrote:
> ..the Rafi/Lata duet from Jahan Ara (MD=Madan Mohan),
> "Shukriya Ae Huzoor Aane Ka". They sounded EXACTLY the same.
> ..the above song's rhythm is very similar to "Maine Shaayad
> Tumhen", while the tune also bears some resemblance to
> "Jurm-e-Ulfat Pe Hamen Log Sazaa Dete Hain". The song "Ghar Se
> Nikalte Hi", with some hints of Yaman/Yaman Kalyan reminds me
> of "Zindagi Bhar Nahin Bhoolegi" and "Mohabbat Se Dekha" from
> Bheegi Raat.
--
So the song is inspired from old melodies, and is meant to evoke a
'heard-it-somewhere' feeling. In fact it is the same with all the
songs in the cassette. Rajesh Roshan sure dug up his old song
collection when making this film.
Also the orchestration in the duet "pyaar mein hota hai kya jaadoo" is
definitely influenced by Illayaraja. In fact, the prelude seems to be
taken from Illayaraja's recent hit "kunkumam manjalukku indru thaan
nalla naal".
> 2. I wouldn't call the Kavita K. and the Sanu solos great. The
> Kavita song is at least moderately interesting, but I find the Sanu
> song to be eminently forgettable.
In "pehle pyaar ka pehla gham", Kavita does give the right emotion
required for the lyrics, which makes the song nice to listen to.
Another thing is the rhythm/beats, which seem similar to the ones used
in Laxmikant-Pyarelal's characteristic lullabies/lories, which I like.
In the song by Sanu, "ye jo thode se hain paise", I like the
appropriate pitch variations to suit the mood of the lines. In the
lines "agar koi dukaan hoti, jahaan par milte gagan ke taare" the
pitch is high like the lofty claims/wishes that he makes/has, and then
the pitch is quickly lowered (bringing him back to earth) with the
realization that "taare milte nahin aise". Rajesh Roshan and Javed
Akhtar definitely did some good work with the music and lyrics here.
As a whole, "Papa Kehte Hain" is a nice album to listen. This is the
first audio release from "Plus Audio", which is part of Plus Channel
group, who also produced the film. Their second release is the recent
"Bhairavi" (Laxmikant-Pyarelal) which also has great songs. Someone
in "Plus Channel" does have a good ear for music.
> 3. Sonu Nigam does seem to get at the soul of Rafi-ish singing,
> which could not be said of the erstwhile Rafi clones. But doesn't
> it still make him just a Rafi clone (albeit a better one)?
> ...
> In any case, there are perhaps limits to how good a clone Sonu or
> anyone can be of Rafi. Listening to the two songs back to back, one
> feels like telling Sonu Nigam, "Young man, you are no Rafi."
Maybe you would have said a similar thing to Mukesh when he started
off? Anyway, time will tell. But is Sonu really trying to be a Rafi
clone in his songs? In "achchhaa sila diya" and in "mujhse naaraaz
ho" doesn't he sound completely different? As you said, it is the
"soul" not the voice that Sonu is trying to attain.
> Ashok
--
satish
Vishal Ailawadhi
Ashok <ADhar...@WorldBank.Org> wrote:
>
--- snip ---
In any case, there are perhaps limits to how good
>a clone Sonu or anyone can be of Rafi. Listening to the two songs
>back to back, one feels like telling Sonu Nigam, "Young man, you are
>no Rafi."
>
>
>Ashok
>
>
Ashok,
I spent a lot of time with Sonu a few months back. About being a clone, he
told me a simple story:
When you try to get into the film industry as a singer, the first
question the MD will ask is "Which singer can you sing like?" Now, here
comes the catch-22. If you sing with your own style, the MD won't want to
take a chance on you. If you copy another singer, everyone labels
him/her as a clone. Knowing that the music industry was difficult, he took
what he could get in the beginning, singing versions of Rafi's songs. Now,
he's gotten his break. Give him a break, yaar. Let him sing for a while in
actual movies before you label him. He deserves that much.
--Vishal Ailawadhi
Narendernath Miriyala
There is a nice song by Sonu in the movie Najayaz,
"tujhe pyar karte karte"
Naren
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Satish Subramanian (subr...@cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
: Sonu Nigam
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------
: Sonu Nigam, the young, talented, and upcoming singer, had his first
: major hit in "Bewafaa Sanam" (MD: Nikhil-Vinay). The song was intially
: recorded as part of a non-film album by T-series. After seeing the
: sales of the cassette, Gulshan Kumar (of T-series) decided to make a
: film out of it. The movie was a surprise hit of 1995. Sonu Nigam's
: song in it was one of the major reasons for the success of the film.
: The song was:
: "achchhaa silaa diyaa tune mere pyaar ka
: yaar ne hi looT liya ghar yaar ka!"
: Before this break he was mostly into singing cover versions of Rafi's
: original songs and other albums for T-series. He has quite a few of
: cassettes in the 'Yaadein: Rafi' series. Apparently he has also sung
: in many of the recent T-series movies.
: Then came the program "Sa Re Ga Ma" (sponsored by TVS) on Zee-TV. The
: program's goal is to find new singing talent. The idea of the program
: is itself credited to Sonu Nigam. Earlier when he was the host of an
: antakshari program he felt that a particular singer in one of the
: shows should also be declared the best singer of the show. But the
: producers said that antakshari was not about who sings best, but about
: who sings the most. He thought it was unfortunate that good talent can
: not be appreciated. So he started the "Sa Re Ga Ma" program which was
: created solely to select the best singer through fair competition. The
: show is a big success. Doordarshan tried a "Meri Awaaz Suno" program
: on the lines of "Sa Re Ga Ma", but it lacks the touch that Sonu's
: presence gave to "Sa Re Ga Ma". As a bonus he also gets to display
: his singing talents on the show (either when he is pointing out a
: mistake or just singing along with the contestants).
: Next came an even bigger break and a great song in "Papa Kehte Hai".
: Rajesh Roshan had him singing the beautiful "mujhse naaraaz ho to ho
: jaao", which was loosely based on an old Rafi-Suman Kalyanpur duet
: (Don't remember which one. Probably Roshan's "maine ae jaan-e-wafa
: tumse mohabbat ki hai"), the cover version of which Sonu had just
: recorded. Unfortunately (!) Rajesh Roshan and Javed Akhtar packed
: "Papa Kehte Hain" with some great melodies (a rarity), and people
: don't seem to see beyond the opening Udit solo. The solos in movie
: are:
: Ghar se nikalte hi - Udit Narayan
: Ye jo thoDe se hai paise - Kumar Sanu
: Mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jaao - Sonu Nigam
: Pehle pyaar ka pehla gham - Kavita Krishnamoorthy
: All these are great songs, and Sonu Nigam's song definitely stands out
: among these. Certainly a singer with a lot of merit.
: --
: satish
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: Song: mujh se naaraaz ho to ho jaao, khud se lekin khaafa khaafa na raho
: Film: Papa Kehte Hain
: Stars: Jugal Hansraj, Mayuri, Anupam Kher
: Singer: Sonu Nigam
: MD: Rajesh Roshan
: Lyrics: Javed Akhtar
: mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
: mujhe tum door jao to jao, aap apne se tum judaa na raho
: mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
: mujh pe chaahe yakeen karo na karo, tumko khud par magar yakeen rahe
: sar pe ho aasmaan yaa ke na ho, pair ke neeche ye zameen rahe
: mujhko tum bewafaa kaho to kaho.
: mujhko tum bewafaa kaho to kaho, tum magar khud se bewafaa na raho
: mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao
: aao ik baat main kahoon tumse, jaane phir koi ye kahe na kahe
: tumko apni talaash karni hai, humsafar koi bhi rahe na rahe
: tumko apne sahaar jeena hai.
: tumko apne sahaar jeena hai, dhoondthi koi aasraa na raho
: mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao, khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho
: --
: bye
: satish
I fully agree with you on Sonu Nigam's issue. I did get a chance
to see the Sa Re Ga Na hosted by Sonu Nigam. I have also heard the Papa
kehte hai song. That one is a classic and I thought it was the best
song of the movie. He definitely has a unique voice which stands out.
Happy also that you came with the discussion of a new talented singer.
There were some people complaining that this group is boring and
talks only about KK and Rafi. So this is a chance for you guys :)
We are certainly here to discuss and gather information on all kinds
of music, old and new.
Cheers!
Mahadevan
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U.V. Ravindra
Ashok wrote:
>
> 3. Sonu Nigam does seem to get at the soul of Rafi-ish singing, which
> could not be said of the erstwhile Rafi clones. But doesn't it still
> make him just a Rafi clone (albeit a better one)? He might even be a
> better singer than Udit Narayan (some of the vocal acrobatics in the
> Udit song are quite childish and intrusive, while Sonu does pull of
> many Rafi-like flourishes well). From the point of view of clearing
> out a unique path for oneself, I'd say Udit Narayan is the more
> interesting singer. In any case, there are perhaps limits to how good
> a clone Sonu or anyone can be of Rafi. Listening to the two songs
> back to back, one feels like telling Sonu Nigam, "Young man, you are
> no Rafi."
I am not sure I quite understand what you are referring to when you
say 'soul of Rafi-ish singing'. If you mean to say that he manages
to remind one of Rafi more than the earlier despicable chaps like
Shabbir or Mohd. Aziz, then, yes, you are right. The only difference
that I perceive between these is, however, like ... Nigam is like a
(inexpensive) carbon copy if the other two are outputs of
the cyclostyle machine. ;-) ;-)
In my opinion, the best clone of Rafi so far has been Anwar.
He's a Kores carbon copy. It's a pity he never had the musical
intellect to make it big, not to speak of management skills and
salesmanship.
Another problem with most Rafi clones (even the amateur ones
that you hear on Sa Re Ga Ma, or programs such as those) is
that none of them can manage an imitation without nasalizing
the word pronunciation ... somehow there is a misconception
that Rafi used to sing with this nose ... of all Rafi-wanna-
soundalikes, Anwar has the only one who's been able to do it
convincingly. Most of them song with their 'naasika' ...
Anwar goes to the throat, and sounds a bit dry sometimes.
I'd like to recall to your mind the article about singing from
the 'naabhi' that I had posted about a year ago (no, I don't
have a copy, and I can't repost it). Sonu does go a little
way down the esophagus, but he stops abruptly somewhere near
the solar plexus or thereabouts, which makes him occasionally
sound as if someone has 'just biffed him in the tum', as PGW
would say. ;-)))
I haven't heard our resident Rafi-an Sanjeev sing, though.
People say he's good. I'm somehow sure he is, too.
Sanjeev, are you listening?
Regards,
Ravindra.
U.V. Ravindra
Vishal Ailawadhi wrote:
> I spent a lot of time with Sonu a few months back. About being a
> clone, he told me a simple story:
>
> When you try to get into the film industry as a singer, the first
> question the MD will ask is "Which singer can you sing like?"
> Now, here comes the catch-22. If you sing with your own style,
> the MD won't want to take a chance on you. If you copy another
> singer, everyone labels him/her as a clone. Knowing that the
> music industry was difficult, he took what he could get in
> the beginning, singing versions of Rafi's songs. Now, he's
> gotten his break. Give him a break, yaar. Let him sing for a
> while in actual movies before you label him. He deserves that much.
He sure has a nice voice, Sonu does. The day he stops trying to
sound like Rafi saheb and sings in his own voice, *that's* the
day he will deserve the bouquets. For the time being, however,
he will get hardly anything but brickbats.
It's not an easy job trying to copy great men. If you are trying,
you better be prepared to hear all kinds of scathing remarks.
Since you *are* well acquainted with Sonu, please do tell him
to try to avoid nasalizing the words when he sings (like Rafi).
He will sound so much more pleasant, and lovely, if he does that.
Heck, he might even start sounding a lot like Rafi saheb.
Regards,
Ravindra.
An honest request, from a Rafian.
Chetan Vinchhi
In article <4mtp67$g...@hpax.cup.hp.com>, vi...@cup.hp.com (Vish Krishnan) wrote:
>
>I was in India about 6 weeks back, and had an opportunity to watch a Z-TV
>recording of SA RE GA MA. It was a children's special with Ranu Mukherji
>judging the contest.
Apart from the fabulous talents displayed by the young participants another
lasting impression from that program was the very touching rendition of
'tum pukaar lo...' by Ranu. Left me wondering why she does not sing in
films. Is she active on the non-hindi-filmi front ?
C
U.V. Ravindra
Chetan Vinchhi wrote:
> Apart from the fabulous talents displayed by the young participants another
> lasting impression from that program was the very touching rendition of
> 'tum pukaar lo...' by Ranu. Left me wondering why she does not sing in
> films. Is she active on the non-hindi-filmi front ?
>
> C
I think she is. I sort of remember hearing a bit of her on Radio
often. Alas, my housemates in Bangalore never had the good sense
to buy a TV (I proposed it, they opposed it, and they won by
3/4 majority, something that many of the parties in the Election
would have loved to have done) ...
But back to the Radio stuff, and I do remember feeling that the
lady has a decent voice and why-shouldn't-she-be-singing-for-films-
more-often kind of thing ...
Guess you can't ask for everything and hope you'll get it.
Ravindra.
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Satish Subramanian (subr...@cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: In the song by Sanu, "ye jo thode se hain paise", I like the
: appropriate pitch variations to suit the mood of the lines. In the
: lines "agar koi dukaan hoti, jahaan par milte gagan ke taare" the
: pitch is high like the lofty claims/wishes that he makes/has, and then
: the pitch is quickly lowered (bringing him back to earth) with the
: realization that "taare milte nahin aise". Rajesh Roshan and Javed
: Akhtar definitely did some good work with the music and lyrics here.
Btw, did anybody else feel that those lyrics could also become a miser's
delight? I mean think of it this way, " I have so few paise, can't afford to
spend them on you". Makes you enjoy the song a whole lot more. Worth the
buy, if you are still into buying new music, as Satish recommends.
Later,
Ikram.
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Ashok (ADhar...@WorldBank.Org) wrote:
while writing about Sonu Nigam and his song in Papa kehte haiN
: 1. Perhaps you were away, Sanjeev and Chandel had identified the song,
: on which "mujh se naaraaz ho to ho jaao" is based. It is the Rafi -
: Suman duet composed by Madan Mohan for 'Jahan Ara.' And the
: connection between the two isn't all that loose! The 'Jahan Ara' song
: (by Rajender Krishan) is:
: baad muddat ke ye ghaDi aayi (a)
: aap aae to zindagi aayi (b)
: ishq marmarke qaamayaab hua (c)
: aaj ek zarraa bhi aafataab hua (d)
: Compare with
: mujhse naaraaz ho to ho jao (A)
: khud se lekin khafaa khafaa na raho (B)
: muj se tum door jao to jao (C)
: aap apne se tum judaa na raho (D)
: Lines (A) = (C) are speeded up versions of (a) = (b). Lines (B) = (D)
: are similarly of line (c). The stanzas of the newer song are more
: loosely based on the Rafi stanzas of the earlier song.
: Note that the 'Jahan Ara' song was well-regarded, but not a hit.
There is a level of indirection that probably needs to be added. I am
surprised that NeerajD didn't add it, already :).
Rajesh Roshan has used the same exact tune in Lootmaar. The song is sung
by LataM and the words are
Paas ho tum magar Qareeb naheeN
Lyrics were by Amit Khanna. Film *ed Dev and Tina with some kid.
: 3. Sonu Nigam does seem to get at the soul of Rafi-ish singing, which
which is a very courageous statement to make. mHo.
: one feels like telling Sonu Nigam, "Young man, you are
: no Rafi."
Something like my own opinion. I agree with UVRji that Anwar probably
remains the best clone until now. As for making "mujhse naraaz ho to" as
the anthem for the *youth*, the mind boggles { :) :) *chuckle* }. No youth
would take such a preachy song down his throat. Btw, a question kinda based
on linguistics -- One of the lines goes "khud se bewafa na raho"... The
meaning is clear but is it grammatically correct the usage of bewafa as
applied to oneself in this meaning?
Later,
Ikram.
: Ashok
Rizwan M. Syed
> on linguistics -- One of the lines goes "khud se bewafa na raho"... The
> meaning is clear but is it grammatically correct the usage of bewafa as
> applied to oneself in this meaning?
>Ikram.
A very good point here Ikram. Well it would mean, not being 'wafadaar'
to yourself. This could be attributed to a whole slew of things like,
not being honest with yourself, not being fair to yourself, etc... So
it would seem like it would be an acceptable usage of the word. Of course
this does NOT mean that I'm saying that it is GRAMMATICALY correct, cause
I have no idea about that.. Probably have to check, will post if something
turns up.
Rizwan
