FILMFARE -results
Subramanya P Rao
results that I managed to get hold of. The info was obtained while talking on
the phone to India. So there could very well be a couple of mistakes.
Best movie: HAHK
Best actor: Nana Patekar
Best supp actress: Dimple
Best comedian: Shakti Kapoor (Andaz apna apna)
Best villain: Shah Rukh (Anjaam)
Music :1942 ALS sweeps
RDB ,Kumar Sanu, kavita krishnamurthy, javed Akhtar
As you can see, I have missed out on a couple of important awards. I think
Madhuri won the best actress and Sooraj Bharjatiya(?) won the director's awards
but I am not sure. In any case please wait for confirmation before arguing
about any of these results.
BTW, Aishwarya Rai compered a part of the programme (impressively accd. to my
dad) and T N Seshan was there to give out a couple of awards.
Ciao
Subbu (Subramaya)
Harpreet Singh(Waterloo)
no 1942 last year, it would have swept the music awards as well.
HAHK..! is the most clean family movie I have ever seen.
Sholay was a pathetic film compared to HAHK..! It was violent,
crude and songs were average. In HAHK...! all songs r gust great!
Sooraj Barjatya knew what he was making, when he didn't sell the
rights of the movie to any video company. Did the Sholay crew
have enough of this sense. There was no videos in India in 1970's
so both movies have made money just based on theatrical release.
Why don't the Sholay fans, take todays ticket prices and see
how much Sholay would have made. HAHK...! has made $100 crores
in 5 months. Its going to complete 7 months now and that $100
crore figure is way up by now.
Even with the pirated, video copy in the market, the movie is
not slowing down. Tells a great deal about the movie.
All the credit goes to Sootaj barjatya. He has bought out the
best in everybody. Lataji sounds melodious as ever, maybe some
of the new singers could take some singing lessons from her.
HAHK -> Best actress Madhuri
Best movie
Best Director
Most clean film
Not even one gaali
no double meaning dialogues
makes one proud of ones culture
Lataji still can sing
in its 7 month
heading towards golden jublee in India and Toronto
The best opening credits in bollywood's 81 yr history
Maybe the Sholay fans can't except that HAHK...! has finally
toppled Sholay as the best hindi film ever, in terms of
everything, maybe the 5 year run that sholay had at one
theatre. That one will be broken easily.
Didi Tera Devar Deewana....
maye ni maye....
Dhiktana Dhiktana....
Joote le lo ....
hum aapke hain koun....!
babul....
wah wah ramji...
sambdhi sambhdan....
mausam ka jaadu....
choclate lime juice...
lo chali main....
Sooraj Barjatya I salute u...
Ramesh Sippy get some tips from Sooraj Man!
Harpreet
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.950226...@acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu>,
Z. U. Khan <kha...@wfu.edu> wrote:
>On 26 Feb 1995, Subramanya P Rao wrote:
>
>> The Filmfare awards show was held on Saturday evening.
>
>> Best movie: HAHK
>
>** Tsk tsk tsk... this has to be the sorriest days in the entire history
>of Hindi cinema when such a nonsensical film wins "best movie" award. The
>result was predictable, because winners are determined by FilmFare
>readers' votes, if I am not mistaken.
>
>Even when I went home, everyone was all praises for HAHK. I saw bits and
>pieces off a pirated video cassette... looked like a VERY sorry film to
>me. Salman has become a total bandar. The film made no sense, and has too
>many songs annoying you every 5 minutes. Lataji, PLEASE stop singing now
>and retire gracefully. I almost cried when I heard her "Didi Tera Dewar.."
>
>The whole subcontinent (at least the women) is so lacking in education and
>finesse that they have nothing to talk about except fashions, gossip and
>shaadi-biyaah. The standards of hindi film watchers have also gone down,
>dramatically. Films with absolutely no story-lines and pathetic
>acting/direction but with a few matak-jhataks becomes hit. I suppose
>everything is possible if an ugly dork like Ajay Devgan and an actor with
>emotive abilities a little better than a rock (Sunil Shetty) can become
>stars.
>
>God save the hindi film world! Amen!!
>
>Zaki
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SINGH, ASHOK
>On 26 Feb 1995, Subramanya P Rao wrote:
>
>
>
>** Tsk tsk tsk... this has to be the sorriest days in the entire history
>of Hindi cinema when such a nonsensical film wins "best movie" award. The
>result was predictable, because winners are determined by FilmFare
>readers' votes, if I am not mistaken.
>
voting for each winner is based on the decision of a panel
of judges, usually senior directors, producers and film critics
from THE TIMES OF INDIA.
A separate panel of technicians such as editors, cameramen etc.,
decide who should win the technical awards.
>Even when I went home, everyone was all praises for HAHK. I saw bits and
>pieces off a pirated video cassette... looked like a VERY sorry film to
>me. Salman has become a total bandar. The film made no sense, and has too
>many songs annoying you every 5 minutes. Lataji, PLEASE stop singing now
>and retire gracefully. I almost cried when I heard her "Didi Tera Dewar.."
>
The pirated video is very bad. The film is best appreciated on the
big screen where you can feel the audiences' respones to the film.
>The whole subcontinent (at least the women) is so lacking in education and
>finesse that they have nothing to talk about except fashions, gossip and
>shaadi-biyaah. The standards of hindi film watchers have also gone down,
>dramatically. Films with absolutely no story-lines and pathetic
>acting/direction but with a few matak-jhataks becomes hit. I suppose
>everything is possible if an ugly dork like Ajay Devgan and an actor with
>emotive abilities a little better than a rock (Sunil Shetty) can become
>stars.
>
Ajay Devgan and Sunil Shetty are stars because audiences appreciate
their action scenes. The same can be said of Sylvester Stallone or
Van Damme, they may not be terrific actors but have a huge fan
following due to their action.
Ashok
Z. U. Khan
> HAHK -> Best actress Madhuri
> Best movie
> Best Director
> Most clean film
> makes one proud of ones culture
> Lataji still can sing
> in its 7 month
** You need to remember that HAHK won not because of nominations and final
selection from educated people who've seen the world, but from average
Indians who haven't been outside their city, much less the world. I would
expect much more from a university student abroad like you.
Just because Madhuri won the award for "best actress" in the film, does
not mean she really was the best actress. I think her performance in
Anjaam was much better and that of Sridevi in Laadla was even better.
Just because a film "makes one proud of one's culture" doesn't mean its a
super duper awesome film. Just because Lataji "can sing" doesn't mean HAHK
is a good film. Lata is way past her prime, and her voice is not as good
as it was in her heyday.
And as far as HAHK being in its 7 month, hey man, lots of shitty films
have done 1-2 months. As I said, the peoples' taste and standards in film
appreciation have gone down the gutter. Be less emotional and use your
brains. When people like Ajay Devgan and Sunil Shetty can become
superstars, then shit films with absolutely no plot/story/sense can become
super hits. Doesn't mean they have any value at all. Ditto for HAHK.
This is not meant as a personal attack on you. I am just surprised at all
you people who like this film. It makes you happy, fine. It makes you
laugh, fine. It entertains you, fine. I am highly entertained by Kadir
Khan's "comedy" but that doesn't make him the best comedian on earth!
Similarly, just because a film has few matak-jhattaks of Madhuri in
backless saris and Salman acting like a bandar and Alok Nath (such a good
actor, wasting his time in gutter films like HAHK) singing stupid songs
does not a good movie make!
Although I am not a fanatic supporter/lover of Sholay, come on yaar, admit
it. Sholay is a million times better than HAHK in terms of everything.
Take acting, direction, background music, music itself, songs, comedy
(Amit and Dharam are great... remember Dina Pathak "Kamaata kitna hai?"
Amit: "Ab roz roz to jeet nahin sakta na bechara, kabhi HAAR bhi jaata
hai"), drama, action and plot/storyline. Above all, dialogues. What
dialogues do you remember from HAHK? How much of HAHK be remember 20 years
down the road? It's just a big fad.
Sholay is an excellent film. Perhaps not the best, but certainly better
than HAHK. I feel sorry for you if you give rave reviews to HAHK, really.
Get yourself checked, and forget studying abroad, go join the rickshawalah
in India and enjoy stupid films like HAHK! :)
Zaki
Jitendra S. Shirolkar (G2)
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.95022...@ac852.wfunet.wfu.edu>, "Z. U. Khan" <kha...@wfu.edu> writes:
>On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, Harpreet Singh wrote:
>
>> HAHK -> Best actress Madhuri
>> Best movie
>> Best Director
>> Most clean film
>> makes one proud of ones culture
>> Lataji still can sing
>> in its 7 month
>
>** You need to remember that HAHK won not because of nominations and final
>selection from educated people who've seen the world, but from average
>Indians who haven't been outside their city, much less the world. I would
>expect much more from a university student abroad like you.
Let me begin by saying that "Sholay is and will be Sholay." HAHK is a good
movie, fairly entertaining but is not as good as Sholay. In my opinion it is
the best Hindi movie I have seen this past year. If Mr. Khan, Z.U. believes
that people in India are not capable of deciding which is best movie of the
year, he is sadly mistaken. He has implied several baseless assumptions in his
opening paragraph which reflects poorly on "educated Indian students studying
abroad." The implied assumptions are that people who voted of HAHK are
not "educated enough" (according to him) and/or have not seen the outside world/city, and they are in any case not competent to judge the best HINDI
movie of the year. I am an Indian student studying abroad and I am not ashamed of the fact that I enjoyed watching HAHK and would have voted in its favor for the best movie of this past year.
Jacob Levich
>any popular awards,for that reason. the film u mention,is probably
>unknown in India. distribution is the main problem - low budget movies,
>made with relatively unknown actors are rarely considered viable enough
>to run in city theatres. as a result they rot in their cans,and get
>aired only during a national film festival etc.
While I agree with your sentiments in general, it's misleading to suggest that
the situation is much better in the US. The film being discussed, IN CUSTODY,
is a case in point. Sony Classics had no notion how to promote the film and
sneaked it in and out of NY and LA in the space of about a week with almost
no publicity and no chance for the film to develop word of mouth. The film
was one of the lowest grossing US releases of 94--it made about $95,000--and
the probably the lowest-grossing Merchant-Ivory production ever in real dollars.
The false art/entertainment dichotomy is alive and well in the US--as evidenced
by the Oscars, which are basically a promotional tool for commercial releases.
(_All_ awards show are promotional tools, so we shouldn't get too upset about
them one way or the other--and BTW, _many_ Indian arthouse films have won
international _and_ Indian awards).
With all respect, I must add that BLUE SKY isn't my idea of an art film.:-)
Jake Levich
jle...@delphi.com
Sandeep S Bajwa
HAHK and Sholay, Sholay to some extent is a typical western
movie, while HAHK is nothing, no story line, no acting, dances and songs with
no lyrics. Sholay was inspired (or copied) by the 'Seven Samurai' of Akira
Kurasawa, while HAHK is just a pathetic attempt for something Creative.
It is affirmed without doubt that gone are the days of
creativity of Guru Dutt(Baazi, CID, Chaudhivian Ka Chand, Kagaz Ke Phool
Pyaasa, Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam) Each one of them is a seperate story with some
entertainment and good music, Bimal Roy (Do Bigha Zameen, Sujata, Parakh,
Bandini, etc., another great creator and whom asst. Directors were Hrishikesh
Mukkerrji (Comedies of Amol Palekar, Dharam Chupke-2, etc) and Chatterji
Director of such sensitive movies as (Rajnigandha) etc.
I think it is lot better to watch the American movies dubbed
into hindi then making a remake of them with Desi actors.
There is not a single actor right now who is as powerful actor as Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor , Sanjeev Kumar, Amitabh, Dev Anand (To some extent)
Not even Nasiruddin, What good is he if he does not want to work in good movies.
I guess there is no such thing as a Creative Hindi Cinema.
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COLLinda
set of awards for Indian films (in Hindi or otherwise) that aren't those
dime-a-dozen musical melodramas you all seem to love so well but rather
what you would call "art" films? I notice, for example, that one of my
favorite recent films -- Ismail Merchant's "In Custody" ("Muhafiz") is
never mentioned when you discuss awards. Are there separate competitions
and awards for such films? Thanks for any info.
Linda Nelson, Chicago.
The Modem Wizard
: On 26 Feb 1995, Subramanya P Rao wrote:
: > The Filmfare awards show was held on Saturday evening.
: > Best movie: HAHK
: ** Tsk tsk tsk... this has to be the sorriest days in the entire history
: of Hindi cinema when such a nonsensical film wins "best movie" award. The
: result was predictable, because winners are determined by FilmFare
: readers' votes, if I am not mistaken.
: Even when I went home, everyone was all praises for HAHK. I saw bits and
: pieces off a pirated video cassette... looked like a VERY sorry film to
: me. Salman has become a total bandar. The film made no sense, and has too
: many songs annoying you every 5 minutes. Lataji, PLEASE stop singing now
: and retire gracefully. I almost cried when I heard her "Didi Tera Dewar.."
: The whole subcontinent (at least the women) is so lacking in education and
: finesse that they have nothing to talk about except fashions, gossip and
: shaadi-biyaah. The standards of hindi film watchers have also gone down,
: dramatically. Films with absolutely no story-lines and pathetic
: acting/direction but with a few matak-jhataks becomes hit. I suppose
: everything is possible if an ugly dork like Ajay Devgan and an actor with
: emotive abilities a little better than a rock (Sunil Shetty) can become
: stars.
: God save the hindi film world! Amen!!
: Zaki
Comparing 'Sholay' and 'HAHK' is like comparing apples and
oranges. They were movies from a different time. I'm a big Amitabh fan,
and I think that 'Sholay' is one of the greatest Indian movies ever.
However, the script for 'Sholay' was based on the Japanese film 'Seven
Samurai' (American remake called 'Magnificent Seven'). This movie will be
remembered for it's innovation, a great song in 'Yeh Dosti', and an
UNFORGETTABLE performance by Amjad Khan as Gabbar Singh, though all the
performances were outstanding. This movie will always have a place in my
heart. It started a whole new genre of Indian movie, and was never
matched again (except maybe with Deewar, from which stemmed many 'Deewar'
clones.)
'HAHK' clicked for different reasons. First of all, the audience
was starved for something different. All the movies were either riddled
with violence, or vulgarity. 'HAHK' provided an escape from that, and it
is an outstanding movie in terms of entertainment. Though Salman Khan
will benefit from this movie, he was not needed to make this film a
success. The songs were ok (better than Maine Pyar Kiya, which lifted
several English numbers.) Everyone I know told me the movie was
outstanding, because it was clean, wholesome family entertainment. But it
is not the trendsetting movie that 'Sholay' was, but it will result in
many 'HAHK' type movies because that's what the public wants. The credit
for this movie goes to Sooraj Bhatiya.
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S.Jagadish ....... I think .... Therefore I am
> crude and songs were average. In HAHK...! all songs r gust great!
acting or anything else Sholay towers above HAKHK..!
> best in everybody. Lataji sounds melodious as ever, maybe some
> of the new singers could take some singing lessons from her.
My foot Lata sounds better than ever .. have you heard Meera ?
> HAHK -> Best actress Madhuri
> Best movie
> Best Director
> Most clean film
Dont agree with nos 1,2,3
> Not even one gaali
> no double meaning dialogues
> makes one proud of ones culture
Dont agree with nos 5,6 ... 7 well ... dya mean to say you go around singing 14
songs everyday ... is that your culture ?
> Lataji still can sing
Hey you are contradicting yourself ... In the first place you said that Lata
sounds more melodious than ever and now you say that she can still sing ...
just goes on to show that this was all you could have expected from her ... BOY
WHAT A FALL !!
> in its 7 month
> heading towards golden jublee in India and Toronto
> The best opening credits in bollywood's 81 yr history
So what ? Dya mean to say a film that runs for just a week or so isnt good ...
so many crap films run for a long time ...
>
> Maybe the Sholay fans can't except that HAHK...! has finally
> toppled Sholay as the best hindi film ever, in terms of
> everything, maybe the 5 year run that sholay had at one
> theatre. That one will be broken easily.
>
> Didi Tera Devar Deewana....
> maye ni maye....
> Dhiktana Dhiktana....
> Joote le lo ....
> hum aapke hain koun....!
> babul....
> wah wah ramji...
> sambdhi sambhdan....
> mausam ka jaadu....
> choclate lime juice...
> lo chali main....
Yeh Dosti Hum Nahin Todenge
Mehbooba Mehbooba ... well and above the songs (as I have already said before
... you dont judge a film on the songs ...) ... AMITABH and Dharmendra,Jaya and
Hema ... GABBAR SINGH !! Hey man ... you forgotten all these ppl ?
ALL SAID AND DONE ... THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN COMPARE HAKHK..!
WITH SHOLAY ... SHOLAY IS WAY ABOVE IT ... WELL IF YOU ARE TALKING OF SONGS ...
I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU
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The whole subcontinent (at least the women) is so lacking in education and
finesse that they have nothing to talk about except fashions, gossip and
shaadi-biyaah. The standards of hindi film watchers have also gone down,
dramatically. Films with absolutely no story-lines and pathetic
acting/direction but with a few matak-jhataks becomes hit. I suppose
everything is possible if an ugly dork like Ajay Devgan and an actor with
emotive abilities a little better than a rock (Sunil Shetty) can become
stars.
God save the hindi film world! Amen!!
Zaki
hey, i agree with you completely about today's hindi cinema, but why are
you maligning indian women along with it? I have plenty of things to
talk about besides fashion, gossip and weddings and so do the indian
women i know. in another post you malign truck drivers and
rickshawallahs as not having any sense. stop getting carried away.
i will add that shahrukh khan is the ugliest man on earth. i am not
sayign that movie heros have to be gorgeous--amithab isn't a pretty
boy--but shahrukh is painful to look at.
mina
Annuradha Kumar
ugly...people gets so carried away that they think he is good looking
I have yet to see a decent looking guy in the film world...bareleable
looking ones are Dharmendra in his young age, Aamir Khan,and salman khan.
what do you guys think?