Illayaraja, Vamsee & Chitra
Satish Subramanian
Ravi Krishna writes:
> Hema wrote:
>> Yes, Chitra was the singer and she sang all the songs.
>> There was another good asong from this movie in the end
>> which Salman (SPB) sings when the heroine is dying in the
>> hospital. I don't recollect the words now. Gosh, I don't
>> remember a Salman song!:)
> The song you are referring is "pathar tha mein ...". This song
> also is a note to note lift of an Ilayaraja song. I don't know the
> name of the film but the song was picturised on Radha Ravi and the
> song was "poove en poove..".
"Poove sempoove un vaasam varum" (K.J.Yesudas) is from "Solla
Thudikudhu Manasu" (Karthik). Only redeeming factor in the movie was
this song, which appeared, thankfully, at several places. Chitra also
had her own version of this song I think. Illayaraja reused the song
in the Telugu film "Prema"?
Chitra was introduced in the Tamil film "Poove Poochudavaa" (85;
music: Illayaraja), when the original Malayalam movie "Nokketha
Dhoorathu Kannum Nattu" (1984; music: Jerry) was being remade in
Tamil. After this movie director Faazil, actress Nadiya and singer
Chitra did well for themselves in Tamil films. Chitra was already
singing in Malayalam movies before that. The songs of the Tamil
version were a rage - "chinna kuil paadum paatu kekkudha, ku ku ku ku
koo.."
In Hindi, she probably started singing in "Love" (Salman, Revathi)
(the only difference between the flop "Love" and original hit "Prema"
was in the climax). Chitra sang in another Salman starrer "Jaagruti",
which had the nice song "hawaa mein kya hain, khushboo hain" (for
Karishma Kapoor). Both had music by Anand-Milind.
Later she sang again for Karishma in the movie "Suhaag" (Ajay Devgan).
The song was "tere liye jaanam tere liye", which was based on "kaadhal
rojaave" (from "Roja"; A.R.Rahman); again by Anand-Milind. On a related
note, another interesting lift of Anand-Milind from Rahman was in a
Jackie Shroff movie. The lifted song was "raasathi en usuru" (from
"Thiruda Thiruda") - something that ARR himself did not attempt in
"Chor Chor"! Anand-Milind made Yesudas sing the Hindi version with
normal orchestration.
Chitra sang another lifted song (from Illayaraja) for Anu Malik in the
recent "Viraasat" - "paayalein chun mun chun mun" with Kumar Sanu.
She regularly sings in Rahman's Hindi films - Roja, Bombay, Rangeela,
Tu Hi Mera Dil, Love Birds, Sapnay, Kabhi Na Kabhi etc.
---
Renu Thamma wrote:
>
> This brings up a topic that I have wanted to discuss for a long
> time. The Vamsee-Ilayaraaja nexus. Vamsee has been one director
> for whom Ilayaraaja's music has been very very distinct. He made
> 'Anveshana' which has truly mind-blowing music by the maestro.
> This is one soundtrack that anyone who even remotely cares about
> Raaja should listen to. With songs like 'palike chiluka'
> 'chilakaga palukavo', 'eekantha vela' and others, I rank this
> amongst some of his best. The movie was a suspense thriller murder
> mystery..
>
Wasn't this movie dubbed in Tamil as "Keeravaani"? What a wonderful
set of songs! The song "yekaantha velai" (eekantha vela) had a great
picturization to go with the song. The song "chilakaga palukavo" you
mention, I guess, is the heavenly "keeravaani, iraviley, kanaviley
paada vaa nee."
>
> 'Sitara' was the next in line. (No connection to the Hindi Sitara
> which incidentally was also a remake of a Telugu movie) Has
> 'jilibili palukula' 'ku ku ku' and my favorite 'vennello godaari
> andam' all of which are very melodious. I am not 100% sure if it
> was a Vamsee movie though.
>
It is a Vamsee movie. The "ku ku ku" song's picturization on Banupriya
again, like the "yekaantha velai" song, shows you the Illayaraja-
Vamsee magic. Illayaraja made the tune of "vennello godaari andam"
(S.Janaki) initially for a Bharathiraja movie, but it was never used
in it. The original was also sung by S Janaki "doorathil naan kanda un
mugam, nadi theerathil.."
---
Balaji (bal...@2kweb.net) wrote:
> 1. Premichu-Pelladu
>
> Some songs which I remember are "gopemma chetilo goru mudda",
> "vayyari godaramma", "aade pade pillalam" and "ee chitra veena"
>
This movie also had the song by SPB: "nirantharamu.."
> 2. chettu kinda pleedaru
>
> This has an excellent song "allibilli kalala rave". Other songs
> are "chaltika nam gadi", "jigi jigi jigija".
>
The song "chalti ka naam gaadi" is a remixed version of the wonderful
SPB solo "chinna mani kuyile" from "Amman Koyil Kizhakaale." The
interludes, music and lyrics are much better in the original.
>
> 4. maharshi
>
Had the song "mata rani".
>
> 5. Ladies Tailor
>
This one has the song "gopi lola".
--
Ravindra wrote:
> Who gave music for "gharAna moguDu"? This was a remake of the
> Thamizh Rajanikanth starrer Mannan, and had Vani Vishwanath and
> Nagma (I think) opposite Chiranjeevi. It was later remade with
> Anil Kr. in Hindi with Anand Milind music, which makes me think it
> was IR's music for Thamizh/Telugu.
"Gharana Mogudu" was by Keeravani. Anand-Milind borrowed from the
Telugu version in "Laadla" (songs like "ladki hai kya, re baaba").
The Tamil movie "Mannan" (Rajnikanth) was the remake of "Gharana
Mogudu" - not the songs though. Illayaraja created that divine solo
"amma endr azhaikaadha uyir illaiye, ammavai vanangaadhu uyarv_illaiye"
in Yesudas's voice.
--
bye
satish
Hema
Satish Subramanian wrote:
> Later she sang again for Karishma in the movie "Suhaag" (Ajay Devgan).
> The song was "tere liye jaanam tere liye", which was based on "kaadhal
> rojaave" (from "Roja"; A.R.Rahman); again by Anand-Milind. On a related
> note, another interesting lift of Anand-Milind from Rahman was in a
> Jackie Shroff movie. The lifted song was "raasathi en usuru" (from
> "Thiruda Thiruda") - something that ARR himself did not attempt in
> "Chor Chor"! Anand-Milind made Yesudas sing the Hindi version with
> normal orchestration.
Which Jackie Shroff movie is it and do you remember the song?
Hema.
Renu Thamma
Satish Subramanian (subr...@cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: Wasn't this movie dubbed in Tamil as "Keeravaani"? What a wonderful
: set of songs! The song "yekaantha velai" (eekantha vela) had a great
: picturization to go with the song. The song "chilakaga palukavo" you
: mention, I guess, is the heavenly "keeravaani, iraviley, kanaviley
: paada vaa nee."
Yes it was. And the veena piece before SP starts with 'keeravaani...' is
heavenly! I find 'palike chiluka' to be one of the most innovative of
Raja's compositions. The way the bird sounds, the swaras and the words are
combined .. its beautiful. There's another song (which shows up in the
climax when she is running away from the faceless-villian) whose words I
cannot remember. Raja repeated its tune in 'Abhinandana' but the lyrics
are different.
: > 5. Ladies Tailor
: >
: This one has the song "gopi lola".
And 'porapaatu idi' which is an interesting song. The movie is again
strange :) --- something about a tailor looking for some gal with a
distinctive birthmark, right? Where does Vamsee get these storylines.. ?
More movies come to mind ---
Marana Mridangam --- something tells me this is a Chiranjeevi movie. Has
the very sweet 'karigipoyaanu karpoora veena ga'. Has some other very
mediocre songs though.
Indrudu Chadrudu --- (dubbed into Tamil as Indiran Chandiran right?).
Starred Kamal and then current rage Vijayashanti (of Eeshwar fame). I
rememember 'sandhya raagaku sarigamalu' and the lullaby that the older
Kamal sings just before he is killed..
Didn't Raja do a bunch of Chiranjeevi movies in the mid 80s? There was one
with Radha and Vijayashanti, but I can't remember the name .. umm.. ahh!
Kondaveeti Donga! :) Wasn't that a Raja movie? And 'Kaidi # 786' with
'guvva guvvalamma'? :)
One more question. The song that shows up in Vansh --- aake teri baahon
mein, sounds extremely Raja'ish but is not from the original Agni
Nakshatram. Its in place of 'vaa vaa anbe anbe' ('neeve amaraswarame' in
Telugu), but its not the same tune. Then what is the original to 'aake
teri...' ?
Renu.
Padmanabhan Ganesan
> "Poove sempoove un vaasam varum" (K.J.Yesudas) is from "Solla
> Thudikudhu Manasu" (Karthik). Only redeeming factor in the movie was
> this song, which appeared, thankfully, at several places. Chitra also
> had her own version of this song I think. Illayaraja reused the song
> in the Telugu film "Prema"?
Solla Thudikkudhu Manasu had other great songs.
> Chitra was introduced in the Tamil film "Poove Poochudavaa" (85;
> music: Illayaraja)
Chitra's first song was 'poojaikketha poovidhu nethu thane poothadhu'
from the movie Neethaana andha kuyil. Music by Maestro Ilaiyaraja.
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In article <610j9o$l...@news.informix.com>, ravindra@infmx says...
>
>> "Gharana Mogudu" was by Keeravani. Anand-Milind borrowed from the
>> Telugu version in "Laadla" (songs like "ladki hai kya, re baaba").
>> The Tamil movie "Mannan" (Rajnikanth) was the remake of "Gharana
>> Mogudu" - not the songs though. Illayaraja created that divine solo
>> "amma endr azhaikaadha uyir illaiye, ammavai vanangaadhu uyarv_illaiye"
>> in Yesudas's voice.
>
>and Mannan. I'm quite certain that the thamizh movie was made before
>the Telugu one, because I watched this film on the second day of its
>release, with a Tamilian friend who said that he'd already seen the
>Rajani movie by then. I subsequently saw the Rajani movie, too, of
>course.
I think Satish has the chronology right. From what I remember Gharana
Mogudu came first, it was remade in tamiz and after it's succesful run,
Mannan was dubbed in Telugu and had a decent run.
>While on the topic of Tamil-Telugu songs, who gave the music for
>Apoorvasagodhargal? How about Michael Madhana Kama Rajan (Michael
>Madhana Kama Raju, in Telugu)? The latter was certainly IR. I
>distinctly remember the "kadha chebuta kadha chebuta" song at the
>beginning of the movie sung by the MD for the "sootradhaar" of the
>story. Other songs of the film were also quite melodious: my memory
>always fails me with Tamil-Telugu lyrics :( There was this duet
>that Kamal and Khushboo sing, there is that marriage song of Kamal
>and the plump heroine (whatshername?), and the sensuous '... raathiri
>...' song that Kamal does NOT sing :)) Or does he? Can someone
>list the songs of this movie.
Aboorva Sagotharagal and Michael Madana Kama Rajan were both by Ilayaraja.
Remember SPB winning an award for 'unnai ninaichen paattu padichen' from
Aboorva sagotharagal.
Songs from Michael Madana Kama Rajan:
kathai kezhu kathai kezhu - Ilayaraja
rambambam arambam - SPB,?
vachalum vakkama ponalum - Malaysia,Janaki
sundari neeyum sundaran - Kamal, Janaki (Kamal and Urvasi on the screen)
sivarathiri thookkkam Ethu - SPB, Janaki
>What about that Revathi-Kamal starrer -- it had a song that went
>"something-something-pazhaga ... maraka manam something illaiye :)"
>[sorry, I'm really bad at this :)] sung in a very folky and grating
>style by Kamal himself (it also had a Janaki version). Nice song.
This one is 'inji idupazhaga' - a small Janaki solo and then a Kamal-Janaki
duet. Another folky song from the movie,Thevar Magan, 'potri paadai ponne' was
recycled in Virasat.
Kesav
Padmanabhan Ganesan
Renu Thamma wrote:
> One more movie whose name I forget, with music by IR --- Vetri..something.
> Has this Chitra-SPB duet I have been looking for. It goes soething like
> 'undaali ni gundello....something' and is picturized on Kamal and Amala
> who dies later. Lovely song.
>
> Renu.
In Tamil the movie was Vetri Vizha *ing Kamal, Amala, Prabhu, Kushbu,
Sasikala. MD by IR. The song is 'poongaatru un per solla kettene indru'
Renu Thamma
I am posting one too many times on this thread. :(
Ravindra Upamaka (ravindra@infmx) wrote:
: While on the topic of Tamil-Telugu songs, who gave the music for
: Apoorvasagodhargal? How about Michael Madhana Kama Rajan (Michael
Apoorvasahodaragal / Vichitra Sodarulu / Appu Raja was IR for sure.
It had 'bababa bababa re' 'ninnu talichi...' (the party song when Roopini
gets married) and 'rajaa cheyyaveste' besides others.
: Madhana Kama Raju, in Telugu)? The latter was certainly IR. I
: distinctly remember the "kadha chebuta kadha chebuta" song at the
[snip]
: ...' song that Kamal does NOT sing :)) Or does he? Can someone
: list the songs of this movie.
I only remember one song from this movie which I like immensely ---
Sundari neevu sundari nyaanum (mixing Tamil-telugu here).
: Idhran-Chandhran (was that the Tamil equivalent of Indrudu Chandrudu)
: also had IR as the MD. It had an IR solo also -- 'nacchina bed-du
Which is the solo from this movie that the Mayor sings with his grandkid
just before he is killed? I think that is a IR solo too..
ravi_krishna
In article <3433EB...@merck.com>, Padmanabhan says...
>In Tamil the movie was Vetri Vizha *ing Kamal, Amala, Prabhu, Kushbu,
>Sasikala. MD by IR. The song is 'poongaatru un per solla kettene indru'
This song was the only redeeming feature of otherwise a rotten film( pathetic
copy of Robert Ludlum's Bourne Identity). Not only was the song great it was
beautifully filmed.
-- RaviK.
Ravindra Upamaka
Satish Subramanian (subr...@cs.umn.edu) wrote:
> Ravindra wrote:
> > Who gave music for "gharAna moguDu"? This was a remake of the
> > Thamizh Rajanikanth starrer Mannan, and had Vani Vishwanath and
> > Nagma (I think) opposite Chiranjeevi. It was later remade with
> > Anil Kr. in Hindi with Anand Milind music, which makes me think it
> > was IR's music for Thamizh/Telugu.
> "Gharana Mogudu" was by Keeravani. Anand-Milind borrowed from the
> Telugu version in "Laadla" (songs like "ladki hai kya, re baaba").
> The Tamil movie "Mannan" (Rajnikanth) was the remake of "Gharana
> Mogudu" - not the songs though. Illayaraja created that divine solo
> "amma endr azhaikaadha uyir illaiye, ammavai vanangaadhu uyarv_illaiye"
> in Yesudas's voice.
I think you've got the chronology backwards, Satish, w.r.t Gharana Mogudu
and Mannan. I'm quite certain that the thamizh movie was made before
the Telugu one, because I watched this film on the second day of its
release, with a Tamilian friend who said that he'd already seen the
Rajani movie by then. I subsequently saw the Rajani movie, too, of
course.
The Telugu version of the film does not have any equivalent of the
"amma endr-azhaikkadha uyir illaiye" -- what a wonderful song! Dripping
with the rasa of pure Kalyani ragam, Yesudas' voice suits the ambience
of the loving son portrayed quite well (I think) by Rajanikanth.
While on the topic of Tamil-Telugu songs, who gave the music for
Apoorvasagodhargal? How about Michael Madhana Kama Rajan (Michael
Madhana Kama Raju, in Telugu)? The latter was certainly IR. I
distinctly remember the "kadha chebuta kadha chebuta" song at the
beginning of the movie sung by the MD for the "sootradhaar" of the
story. Other songs of the film were also quite melodious: my memory
always fails me with Tamil-Telugu lyrics :( There was this duet
that Kamal and Khushboo sing, there is that marriage song of Kamal
and the plump heroine (whatshername?), and the sensuous '... raathiri
...' song that Kamal does NOT sing :)) Or does he? Can someone
list the songs of this movie.
Idhran-Chandhran (was that the Tamil equivalent of Indrudu Chandrudu)
also had IR as the MD. It had an IR solo also -- 'nacchina bed-du
chakkani food-du sidhham raa freind-u, takkina-vanni pakkana peTTi
paTTara O paTTu -- paTTa raa sa_i aNTuu, naDum-chuTTu uDum-paTTu'
sung by the Mayor's character. A very humorous song -- I don't know
the Tamil lyrics, but the Telugu words above mean something like
"A bed that you'll like, some food that you'll love are ready, my friend.
Keep everything else aside, and here, get a grip on this thing --
Get a firm grip, a grip like an 'uDumu' (monitor lizard :), around
this waist!" :))
What about that Revathi-Kamal starrer -- it had a song that went
"something-something-pazhaga ... maraka manam something illaiye :)"
[sorry, I'm really bad at this :)] sung in a very folky and grating
style by Kamal himself (it also had a Janaki version). Nice song.
More songs as I remember them, and get some time to post :)
Regards,
Ravindra.
> --
> bye
> satish
easi...@sprynet.com
In article <610o2m$1...@drn.zippo.com>,
> >> Telugu version in "Laadla" (songs like "ladki hai kya, re baaba").
> >> The Tamil movie "Mannan" (Rajnikanth) was the remake of "Gharana
> >> Mogudu" - not the songs though. Illayaraja created that divine solo
> >> "amma endr azhaikaadha uyir illaiye, ammavai vanangaadhu uyarv_illaiye"
> >> in Yesudas's voice.
> >
> >and Mannan. I'm quite certain that the thamizh movie was made before
> >the Telugu one, because I watched this film on the second day of its
> >release, with a Tamilian friend who said that he'd already seen the
> >Rajani movie by then. I subsequently saw the Rajani movie, too, of
> >course.
>
> Mogudu came first, it was remade in tamiz and after it's succesful run,
> Mannan was dubbed in Telugu and had a decent run.
>
> >Apoorvasagodhargal? How about Michael Madhana Kama Rajan (Michael
> >Madhana Kama Raju, in Telugu)? The latter was certainly IR. I
> >distinctly remember the "kadha chebuta kadha chebuta" song at the
> >beginning of the movie sung by the MD for the "sootradhaar" of the
> >story. Other songs of the film were also quite melodious: my memory
> >always fails me with Tamil-Telugu lyrics :( There was this duet
> >that Kamal and Khushboo sing, there is that marriage song of Kamal
> >and the plump heroine (whatshername?), and the sensuous '... raathiri
> >...' song that Kamal does NOT sing :)) Or does he? Can someone
> >list the songs of this movie.
>
> Remember SPB winning an award for 'unnai ninaichen paattu padichen' from
> Aboorva sagotharagal.
>
> Songs from Michael Madana Kama Rajan:
> kathai kezhu kathai kezhu - Ilayaraja
> rambambam arambam - SPB,?
> vachalum vakkama ponalum - Malaysia,Janaki
> sundari neeyum sundaran - Kamal, Janaki (Kamal and Urvasi on the screen)
> sivarathiri thookkkam Ethu - SPB, Janaki
Mano and Chitra
>
> >What about that Revathi-Kamal starrer -- it had a song that went
> >"something-something-pazhaga ... maraka manam something illaiye :)"
> >[sorry, I'm really bad at this :)] sung in a very folky and grating
> >style by Kamal himself (it also had a Janaki version). Nice song.
>
> This one is 'inji idupazhaga' - a small Janaki solo and then a Kamal-Janaki
> duet. Another folky song from the movie,Thevar Magan, 'potri paadai ponne' was
> recycled in Virasat.
>
> Kesav
>
Another great song 'masaru ponne varuga', based on some ancient tamil
religional song ( only lyrics).
Related to this topic, I think IR is the only MD who was immensly popular
not only in tamil but also in telugh, kannada and malayalam. There are
lot of others mds like MSV, KVM, kanadasala, keeravani and others did,
but IR was the only one,( in 80's) truly the top MD for all the languages
at the same time.
e.hariharan
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The movie was rotten no doubt but there was another song in the movie
which was great - maarugo maarugo maarugayi - Kamal and Sasikala dancing
in Goa beaches - beautifully filmed by AshokKumar.
Dev Mannemela
In article <60v95m$s...@epx.cis.umn.edu>,
Satish Subramanian <subr...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>.....
>
>"Poove sempoove un vaasam varum" (K.J.Yesudas) is from "Solla
>Thudikudhu Manasu" (Karthik). Only redeeming factor in the movie was
>this song, which appeared, thankfully, at several places. Chitra also
>had her own version of this song I think. Illayaraja reused the song
>in the Telugu film "Prema"?
I don't think there was any song in "Prema" in the tune of "Poove
Sempoove"..
> > 'chilakaga palukavo', 'eekantha vela' and others, I rank this
> > amongst some of his best. The movie was a suspense thriller murder
> > mystery..
> >
>
>
>Wasn't this movie dubbed in Tamil as "Keeravaani"?
Wasn't "Paadum Paravaigal" the name of the tamil version?
>What a wonderful
>set of songs!
Great background music too..
I taped the bg score off my VCR, a;ong with bg scores of
"Saagara Sangamam" and "Sitara".
>It is a Vamsee movie. The "ku ku ku" song's picturization on Banupriya
>again, like the "yekaantha velai" song, shows you the Illayaraja-
>Vamsee magic. Illayaraja made the tune of "vennello godaari andam"
>(S.Janaki) initially for a Bharathiraja movie, but it was never used
>in it. The original was also sung by S Janaki "doorathil naan kanda un
>mugam, nadi theerathil.."
S.Janaki won the national award for "Vennelo Godari" of "Sitara"..
>Balaji (bal...@2kweb.net) wrote:
>
> > 1. Premichu-Pelladu
> > 4. maharshi
"Preminchu Pelladu" and "Maharshi" rank among IR's best, IMHO..
/dev