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Ambrish Sundaram

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Mar 24, 1995, 3:17:47 PM3/24/95
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Hi,

With respect to the ongoing discussion on Vyjayanthimala's movies, I know that
she starred with Dharmendra in the movie, whose name I am not able to recollect
now. There is a nice song by Rafi in this movie -

Mai kahin kavi na ban jaaoon
Tere pyaar mein aye kavitaa

Would some netter be able to give the details of this movie? Is it Aashaa by
any chance? The song sequence has the hero and the heroine going in a lift,
with Dharam trying to woo a visibly upset Vyjayanthimala. The song starts with
the heroine being all upset with the hero and ends up with her getting pataaoed
by Dharam. The movie also has Manmohan as the villian, who incidentally also
appears in the above song sequence, frantically going up the stairs, while the
hero is wooing the heroine in the lift.

Regards

Ambrish - asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com

Hemant Varma

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Mar 24, 1995, 4:34:28 PM3/24/95
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Ambrish Sundaram (asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com) wrote:
: Hi,


The movie you are looking for is a hilarious "Pyar hi Pyar".

I would recommend watching it if you are looking for something
for pure fun!

Hemant


Kishore Krshna

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Mar 25, 1995, 8:11:46 PM3/25/95
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Main kahi kavi na... is Pyar hi Pyar (1969, Shankar Jaikishen). Some
other of her hindi films Ganga Jumna,Jewel Thief, Rangoli (I can't
believe no one recalled these!), Ladli,Pehli Jhalak,Miss Mala,
Asha (K Kumar),College Girl (Shammi K), PocketMaar, Amardeep (Dev
Anand). Of course, if you include all of her tamil films this list
will grow exponentially.

Data from "Collections"

Kishore
Ambrish Sundaram wrote:


> Mai kahin kavi na ban jaaoon
> Tere pyaar mein aye kavitaa

>Would some netter be able to give the details of this movie? Is it Aashaa by
>any chance?

list so far:
Devdas Dilip Kumar ? ( Her first role according to
an article ) - probably in Hindi.Nope this was 1955.
Nagin was 1954.
Ganwaar Jubilee Kumar 1970 (her last movie?)
Saathi Jubilee Kumar 1969?
Zindagi Jubilee Kumar 1965?
Duniya Evergreen Hero 1966
Prince Yahoo Hero 1966
Kathputli Balraj Sahni 1957
Sungursh The All-time Best,Sanjeev K 1968
College Girl Kishore Kumar? 1963?
Nagin Pradip Kumar 1954? (her first movie?)
Leader The All-time Best 1964?
New Delhi Kishore Kumar 1956
Sangam Raaj Kapoor and
Rajender Kumar 1960s
Dr. Vidya Manoj Kumar ?
Nazrana Raj Kapoor 1960s
Madhumati Dilip Kumar 1956/57 ?
Asha ? ?
Raaj Tilak Gemini Ganeshan ?
Devta Gemini Ganeshan ? (Mentioned in the same article)
Ek Jhalak Gemini Ganeshan ? ( " )
Paigham Dilip,Raj Kumar
Suraj Rajendra K
Taj Pradeep K
Yasmeen Suresh (duh?)
Sadhna Sunil Dutt

Sanjeev Ramabhadran

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Mar 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/28/95
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In article <950324201...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com> asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com (Ambrish Sundaram) writes:
>Hi,
>
>With respect to the ongoing discussion on Vyjayanthimala's movies, I know that
>she starred with Dharmendra in the movie, whose name I am not able to recollect
>now. There is a nice song by Rafi in this movie -
>
> Mai kahin kavi na ban jaaoon
> Tere pyaar mein aye kavitaa
>
>Would some netter be able to give the details of this movie? Is it Aashaa by

Film: Pyar Hi Pyar


Ramesh VELLANKI

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Mar 27, 1995, 12:36:22 PM3/27/95
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How about

Aas ka panchi with Jubilee Kumar
Amar Deep with Evergreen hero
Prince with Shaammi
Suraj with Jubilee Kumar


usha srinivasan

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Mar 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM3/31/95
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I know only that this is from a Dharmendra movie.
Usha.
>
>


Rajneesh Bhatnagar

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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Kishore Krshna (krs...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:

: Data from "Collections"

: Kishore

: list so far:


i seem to remember a movie "jewel thief" *ring Dev Anand and Vyjanthimala

remember: hotho pe aisee baaat mein chupa ke chali ai
khul jaaye yehi raaz to duhaai hai duhaii.......

Rajneesh

Chetan Vinchhi

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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In article <3lubnl$6...@gold.tc.umn.edu>,
rava...@gold.tc.umn.edu (Sivakumar Ravada) wrote:
>
>I saw Jewel Thief just a couple of weeks ago. Dev, Vijju, and Ascii
>(Ashok Kumar). And ***** is the baddie too!! The plot seemed good, but
^^^^^
It is not fair to reveal the "villain" to those who might not
have seen the movie. I think the movie making was pretty good
as Indian movies go. But maybe this discussion belongs to
some other newsgroup !

>not necessarily the movie-making (the indian drama had to come in
>anyway!)
>
>-- ShashiKant Joshi
>

Cheers !
Chetan

Amin Meghani

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Apr 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/5/95
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In article <3lufgk$9...@clarknet.clark.net>, cvin...@telogy.com (Chetan Vinchhi) writes:
> In article <3lubnl$6...@gold.tc.umn.edu>,
> rava...@gold.tc.umn.edu (Sivakumar Ravada) wrote:
> >
> >I saw Jewel Thief just a couple of weeks ago. Dev, Vijju, and Ascii
> >(Ashok Kumar). And ***** is the baddie too!! The plot seemed good, but
> ^^^^^
> It is not fair to reveal the "villain" to those who might not
> have seen the movie. I think the movie making was pretty good
> as Indian movies go. But maybe this discussion belongs to
> some other newsgroup !

Now that's not fair to those of us who can't access alt.movies.indian.
I have no problems with movie-related items being posted on RMIM; after
all, EOB is always posted here. I do agree with Chetan that Shashikant
should have refrained from giving away the villain...


--Amin

Azra Bano

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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rajn...@engr.latech.edu (Rajneesh Bhatnagar) writes:

>Kishore Krshna (krs...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:

>: Data from "Collections"

>: Kishore

>: Asha ? ?

Kishore Kumar

Remember he does the 'Eena Meena Deeka' number as well...


> i seem to remember a movie "jewel thief" *ring Dev Anand and Vyjanthimala

>remember: hotho pe aisee baaat mein chupa ke chali ai
> khul jaaye yehi raaz to duhaai hai duhaii.......

Yeah, and that other song " Aasmaan ke neeche, hum aaj apne peeche..."
She makes Dev Anand wear that vague outfit.. As an aside, I think Tanuja was
real cute in the film :), I guess I just like her anyway, and if u pit her
against the likes of Vyju & Mala Sinha [Bahaarein Phir Bhi Aayengi], the
contrast simply hits u...:)) I know one person who adores Mala Sinha, [God
alone knows why..:))] and will not take kindly to my statement, :) therefore
I hurriedly add "IMHO". :)

But back to Vyju, there's a song "SaiyyaN, choR de patang meri choR de.."
with Pradeep K looking utterly ridiculous..anyone remember what movie that song is from? But there's another nice song, "Chandaniya nadiya beech ..." by Hemant Kumar and *ing the same 2. P-Stats please?

azra
>Rajneesh
--


Chetan Vinchhi

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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In article <bano.797283251@alice>,

ba...@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Azra Bano) wrote:
>
>But back to Vyju, there's a song "SaiyyaN, choR de patang meri choR de.."
>with Pradeep K looking utterly ridiculous..anyone remember what movie that
song is from? But there's another nice song, "Chandaniya nadiya beech ..." by
Hemant Kumar and *ing the same 2. P-Stats please?

The first song you mention is from "Nagin". Sung
by Lata and Hemant Kumar, music by Hemant Kumar,
lyrics Shakeel Badayuni (?).

Cannot place the secod song. Do you remember
who the singers were ?

Cheers !
Chetan
>
>azra

Ashok

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Apr 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/8/95
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Nagin songs are by Rajinder Krishan
"Chndaniya nadiya beech nahaaye" is from Anjaan. MD and singer is
Hemant. I think the lyrics are by RK.

Ashok


Azra Bano

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Apr 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/9/95
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cvin...@telogy.com (Chetan Vinchhi) writes:

>In article <bano.797283251@alice>,
> ba...@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Azra Bano) wrote:
>>
> The first song you mention is from "Nagin". Sung
> by Lata and Hemant Kumar, music by Hemant Kumar,
> lyrics Shakeel Badayuni (?).

Thanx.

> Cannot place the secod song. Do you remember
> who the singers were ?

It's actually just a solo sung by Hemant Kumar..Goes something like
"Chandaniya nadiya beech nahaaye...then something, then chanda dekh dekh
muskaaye, ho Rama ho Rama ho..o.." Hemant Kumar sings it very well,
basically his style, sorta mild and low-pitched... One Hemant Kumar song that
I think is simply excellent is that lullaby "Chandan ka palna, resham ki
dori, jhoola jhulaaun mai nindiya ko tori.." Heck, Hemant Kumar really
ought to be discussed, some of his songs are just classic. The Anar Kali
songs, they're WOW!!! "Jaag dard-e-ishq jaag.." never fails to move and
"Zindagi pyar ki do chaar ghadi.." is like one of those meethe-paan that
just melt in your mouth..:))

azra

> Cheers !
> Chetan
>>
>>azra
--


Preetham Gopalaswamy

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Apr 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/9/95
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In article <bano.797451986@alice>, ba...@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Azra Bano) writes:
>> Cannot place the secod song. Do you remember
>> who the singers were ?
>
>One Hemant Kumar song that I think is simply excellent is that lullaby
>"Chandan ka palna, resham ki dori, jhoola jhulaaun mai nindiya ko tori.."

Azraji, you really made Sami's day here :-) :-)
His favorite film (musically), his favorite music director. The song is from
"Shabab", music by Naushad. This is one of those rare (possibly the only)
Naushad-Hemant combinations. It would be interesting to know why Naushad
picked Hemant for this song.


>Heck, Hemant Kumar really ought to be discussed, some of his songs are just
>classic. The Anar Kali songs, they're WOW!!! "Jaag dard-e-ishq jaag.." never
>fails to move and "Zindagi pyar ki do chaar ghadi.." is like one of those
>meethe-paan that just melt in your mouth..:))

Since you bring it up, here is a bit of film trivia that I gathered quite
recently. It had always known that "Anarkali" had 2 music directors, viz
Basant Prakash and C. Ramachandra, but did not know much else. The story
apparently is that the original choice for music director WAS C. Ramachandra,
with the added caveat that he ought to use Geeta Dutt as the main singer since
she was riding high in terms of popularity at the time (possibly soon after the
musical success of "Baavre Nain", although this is just a guess). CR who was
a Lata devotee (in more ways than one :-) ) refused to agree and the producer
(or maybe the director) asked his brother viz. Basant Prakash to enter the
fray. He recorded 1 song viz. the Geeta solo "Aa jaan-e-vafa". However either
due to some disagreement or ill health, he too was replaced, this time by
Hemant Kumar who apparently composed the music for ATLEAST 2 songs. Now the 2
songs were not mentioned explicitly, but it would make sense that they were
the 2 songs that Hemant sings in. I do not know if there were any other songs
that Hemant composed (note that by now, they producer had agreed to Lata
singing for the film). However, for some reason, Hemant did not work out
either and they went back to C. Ramachandra who I guess was destined for this
film. And the results of course are the classics "Yeh zindagi usi ki hai",
"Zamaane ne samjha ke ham peeke aaye", etc.


Preetham

Chetan Vinchhi

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Apr 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/10/95
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In article <3m9gm4$3...@mojo.eng.umd.edu>,

pree...@eng.umd.edu (Preetham Gopalaswamy) wrote:
>
>
>Since you bring it up, here is a bit of film trivia that I gathered quite
>recently. It had always known that "Anarkali" had 2 music directors, viz
>Basant Prakash and C. Ramachandra, but did not know much else. The story
>apparently is that the original choice for music director WAS C. Ramachandra,
>with the added caveat that he ought to use Geeta Dutt as the main singer
since
>she was riding high in terms of popularity at the time (possibly soon after
the
>musical success of "Baavre Nain", although this is just a guess). CR who was
>a Lata devotee (in more ways than one :-) ) refused to agree and the producer
>(or maybe the director) asked his brother viz. Basant Prakash to enter the
>fray. He recorded 1 song viz. the Geeta solo "Aa jaan-e-vafa". However
either

Basant Prakash was the brother of Khemchand Prakash
(of "aayegaa...." fame). I believe he was one of those
MDs who did not really make it big...I don't think he
was related to the maker(s) of Anarkali.
And judging by "aa jaan-e-wafa..." he was quite good !


Cheers !
Chetan

Pradeep Dubey

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Apr 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/10/95
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In article <3m9gm4$3...@mojo.eng.umd.edu>, pree...@eng.umd.edu (Preetham Gopalaswamy) writes:
|>
|> In article <bano.797451986@alice>, ba...@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Azra Bano) writes:
|> >> Cannot place the secod song. Do you remember
|> >> who the singers were ?
|> >
|> >One Hemant Kumar song that I think is simply excellent is that lullaby
|> >"Chandan ka palna, resham ki dori, jhoola jhulaaun mai nindiya ko tori.."
|>
|> Azraji, you really made Sami's day here :-) :-)
|> His favorite film (musically), his favorite music director. The song is from
|> "Shabab", music by Naushad. This is one of those rare (possibly the only)
|> Naushad-Hemant combinations. It would be interesting to know why Naushad
|> picked Hemant for this song.

This is one of my favorites too. The song is simply too melodious!
But IMO this wasn't the only Hemant-Naushad combo. At least there is
one more: insaaf ki dagar pe, bachchon dikhao chal ke ...

Pradeep

|>
|>
|> >Heck, Hemant Kumar really ought to be discussed, some of his songs are just
|> >classic. The Anar Kali songs, they're WOW!!! "Jaag dard-e-ishq jaag.." never
|> >fails to move and "Zindagi pyar ki do chaar ghadi.." is like one of those
|> >meethe-paan that just melt in your mouth..:))
|>

|> Since you bring it up, here is a bit of film trivia that I gathered quite
|> recently. It had always known that "Anarkali" had 2 music directors, viz
|> Basant Prakash and C. Ramachandra, but did not know much else. The story
|> apparently is that the original choice for music director WAS C. Ramachandra,
|> with the added caveat that he ought to use Geeta Dutt as the main singer since
|> she was riding high in terms of popularity at the time (possibly soon after the
|> musical success of "Baavre Nain", although this is just a guess). CR who was
|> a Lata devotee (in more ways than one :-) ) refused to agree and the producer
|> (or maybe the director) asked his brother viz. Basant Prakash to enter the
|> fray. He recorded 1 song viz. the Geeta solo "Aa jaan-e-vafa". However either

Ashok

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>
> In article <bano.797451986@alice>, ba...@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Azra Bano) writes:
> >> Cannot place the secod song. Do you remember
> >> who the singers were ?
> >
> >One Hemant Kumar song that I think is simply excellent is that lullaby
> >"Chandan ka palna, resham ki dori, jhoola jhulaaun mai nindiya ko tori.."
>
> Azraji, you really made Sami's day here :-) :-)
> His favorite film (musically), his favorite music director. The song is from
> "Shabab", music by Naushad. This is one of those rare (possibly the only)
> Naushad-Hemant combinations. It would be interesting to know why Naushad
> picked Hemant for this song.
>
>
> >Heck, Hemant Kumar really ought to be discussed, some of his songs are just
> >classic. The Anar Kali songs, they're WOW!!! "Jaag dard-e-ishq jaag.." never
> >fails to move and "Zindagi pyar ki do chaar ghadi.." is like one of those
> >meethe-paan that just melt in your mouth..:))
>
> Preetham

Some more trivia. The FilmFare best-MD award for 1953 (?) pitted
Baiju Bawra against Anarkali (what a contest! Also the only time
CR was to be nominated even!). Nausahd won, but a detractor is
supposed to have taunted him that he cannot produce a composition
comparable to "Jaag dard-e-ishq." The Shabaab duet was Naushad's
answer. Quite an answer, though I would rate the Anarkali duet
higher (among others, it is 'through-composed': the three stanzas
have different tunes). In light of your trivia, it would be interesting
to speculate who might have composed it. I suppose we would never
find out (even whether the trivia is true). The song does have CR
signature sitar and alaap.

One other Naushad-Hemant combination is in the PC song from GangaJamna:
"Insaaf ki Dagar se bachchon dikhao chalke." CR does have other
Hemant-Lata duets, e.g., the remarkable "Gagan jhanjhana rahe" from
Nastik and the ordinary "Umr hui tumse mile" from Bahurani.

Ashok

Ajay P Nerurkar

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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Preetham Gopalaswamy (pree...@eng.umd.edu) wrote:

: due to some disagreement or ill health, he too was replaced, this time by


: Hemant Kumar who apparently composed the music for ATLEAST 2 songs. Now the 2
: songs were not mentioned explicitly, but it would make sense that they were
: the 2 songs that Hemant sings in. I do not know if there were any other songs


There is atleast one more song Hemant Kumar sings for this movie. It is,
I think, "Tere dwaar khaDa ik jogi", and this is his own composition.

Both "Jaag dard-e-ishq jaag" and "Zindagi pyar ki do chaar ghaDi" as well
as "Ae baad-e-saba ahista chal" have the voice of Hemant but the wondrous
music of C. Ramchandra. Actually, the third one is more in the nature of a
poetic recitation.

--
Ajay

Ravi Subramanyam

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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rajn...@engr.latech.edu (Rajneesh Bhatnagar) wrote:
>
> Kishore Krshna (krs...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
>
> : Data from "Collections"
>
> :Here are some more movies:

Movie Hero Year
------ ---- ----
Pyar Hi Pyar Dharmendra 1970
Amrapali Sunil Dutt 1968


Chetan Vinchhi

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In article <3meob9$r...@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>,

a...@cs.buffalo.edu (Ajay P Nerurkar) wrote:
>
>
>There is atleast one more song Hemant Kumar sings for this movie. It is,
>I think, "Tere dwaar khaDa ik jogi", and this is his own composition.
>
Sorry, this song is from Nagin. A really nice
song.

Cheers !
Chetan

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