JJPK has "Pardesiyon se na ankhiyan milana"
2 versions by Rafi and 1 by Lata.
Pyaar Ka Mausam has "Tum Bin Jaon Kahaan"
2 versions by Rafi and 1 by KK.
IMHO the Lyrics of the 3 versions are different in both
cases.
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Richard Turner
I seem to remember that the film Kabhie Kabhie has three versions of Kabhie
Kabhie. One version with Lata Mangeshkar herself, one with Kishore Kumar,
and one is poetry read by Amitabh Bachchan. IIRC each of these versions have
different words.
Does poetry count? The poem version is on my audio tape, and it's music to
the ears anyway.
Srinivas Ganti wrote in message
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The male version of "Kabhi Kabhi" is sung my Mukesh while the other one is
actually a duet of Lata and Mukesh. Mukesh does sing very little in the duet
version. Both the versions have the exact same lyrics. I don't think you can
call Amitabh's recital of poetry as a song.
If I am not wrong, there are 3 versions of "Imli ka boota beri ka ped" in
Saudagar. Also "Dhiktana Dhiktana" in HAHK (??). About the latter, I sort of
vagurely remember the song appearing 3 times and is different each time (I
mean not repetitions of the same song). I might be off about this. Could
anyone confirm this? Also, Dil deewana in MPK also has 3 versions if you can
count the short duet version.
Arun
...Pallab
>The male version of "Kabhi Kabhi" is sung my Mukesh while the other one is
>actually a duet of Lata and Mukesh. Mukesh does sing very little in the duet
>version. Both the versions have the exact same lyrics. I don't think you can
>call Amitabh's recital of poetry as a song.
>
>If I am not wrong, there are 3 versions of "Imli ka boota beri ka ped" in
>Saudagar. Also "Dhiktana Dhiktana" in HAHK (??). About the latter, I sort of
>vagurely remember the song appearing 3 times and is different each time (I
>mean not repetitions of the same song). I might be off about this. Could
>anyone confirm this? Also, Dil deewana in MPK also has 3 versions if you can
>count the short duet version.
>
>Arun
>
>
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> Also "Dhiktana Dhiktana" in HAHK (??). About the latter, I sort of
>vagurely remember the song appearing 3 times and is different each time (I
>mean not repetitions of the same song). I might be off about this. Could
>anyone confirm this?
My audio cassette lists "Dhiktana - Part 1" and "Dhiktana - Part 2"
only. I saw the film quite recently (thanks, Adrian :o)), and there is a
third, instrumental, version of the song used as background music.
> Also, Dil deewana in MPK also has 3 versions if you can
>count the short duet version.
>
>Arun
>
>
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Each song has three stanzas.
The first stanza is common to all three songs, and goes like
'Yeh aasmaan, yeh badal, yeh raastey yeh hawa'
The second and third stanzas are different in the Rafi version, but the
same for the Hemlata and Manhar Udhas versions.
The ISB mentions only the Rafi and Hemlata versions.
(The soundtrack is available on CD by HMV with 'Dada', which has quite
a nice collection, along with that famous solo by Yesudas, 'Dil ke
tukde, tukde karke, muskura ke chal diye')
Regards,
Abhinav
In article <0f5b83e7...@usw-ex0106-043.remarq.com>,
Srinivas Ganti <gantisri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Two versions are banal but Jab Jab Phool Khile and Pyaar Ka
> Mausam have three versions of the same song.
>
> JJPK has "Pardesiyon se na ankhiyan milana"
> 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by Lata.
> Pyaar Ka Mausam has "Tum Bin Jaon Kahaan"
> 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by KK.
> IMHO the Lyrics of the 3 versions are different in both
> cases.
>
> Any more additions to this list?
>
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> 'Aap To Aise Na' The has three versions of the same song:
> 'Too Is Tarah Se' - one by Rafi, a fast version, and two slow versions,
> by Manhar Udhas, and Hemlata.
> All three are solos.
> Usha Khanna gave the music, and Nida Fazli the lyrics for the song.
>
> Each song has three stanzas.
> The first stanza is common to all three songs, and goes like
> 'Yeh aasmaan, yeh badal, yeh raastey yeh hawa'
>
> The second and third stanzas are different in the Rafi version, but the
> same for the Hemlata and Manhar Udhas versions.
>
> The ISB mentions only the Rafi and Hemlata versions.
>
> (The soundtrack is available on CD by HMV with 'Dada', which has quite
> a nice collection, along with that famous solo by Yesudas, 'Dil ke
> tukde, tukde karke, muskura ke chal diye')
>
>
> Regards,
> Abhinav
>
>
> In article <0f5b83e7...@usw-ex0106-043.remarq.com>,
> Srinivas Ganti <gantisri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Two versions are banal but Jab Jab Phool Khile and Pyaar Ka
> > Mausam have three versions of the same song.
> >
> > JJPK has "Pardesiyon se na ankhiyan milana"
> > 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by Lata.
> > Pyaar Ka Mausam has "Tum Bin Jaon Kahaan"
> > 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by KK.
> > IMHO the Lyrics of the 3 versions are different in both
> > cases.
> >
> > Any more additions to this list?
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> Would "Sun sun sun jaalimaa" and "Ja ja ja bewafaa" count.
>
> Sanjay
>
> Srinivas Ganti wrote in message
> <0f5b83e7...@usw-ex0106-043.remarq.com>...
Don't, for the love of God, don't confuse Anwar with Rafi!
It is Mohd Rafi, the one and only.
Regards,
Abhinav
In article <oTCB3.18158$9K.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>,
> > > Two versions are banal but Jab Jab Phool Khile and Pyaar Ka
> > > Mausam have three versions of the same song.
> > >
> > > JJPK has "Pardesiyon se na ankhiyan milana"
> > > 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by Lata.
> > > Pyaar Ka Mausam has "Tum Bin Jaon Kahaan"
> > > 2 versions by Rafi and 1 by KK.
> > > IMHO the Lyrics of the 3 versions are different in both
> > > cases.
> > >
> > > Any more additions to this list?
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Samay o dheere chalo - three versions, sung by Bhupen Hazarika, Lata,
and Asha
Dil hoom hoom kare - two versions, sung by Bhupen Hazarika and Lata.
1. In Brahmachari, Mein Gaun tum so jaao has got two versions (Happy and
Sad) by Rafi and one by Lata (??).
2. Andaz has got three versions of Zindagi Ek Safar.. by Kishore, Asha
and a short version by Rafi.
However, the best example to fulfill the requirements of this discussion
is the Ghalib Gazal, Nuktacheen hai gam-e-dil. I have heard three
versions of this gazal and that too not in the same film!!! First one is
by Saigal (Yahudi ki ladki), second is Suraiya (Mirza Ghalib) and the
third one is by Mohd. Rafi (Non Film). All these have totally different
tunes, different moods, but the same lyrics. My personal choice is the
Suraiya Version, even though the Rafi one is simply superb. I am sure
there will be more versions of this gazal. Anyone knows any other
version?
Swaraj
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3 versions
-Paudwal, Udhas, SPB
-SPB
-Paudwal
was there a 4th version as well? I stopped counting.
Aniruddh
It was 4 versions but so:
-Paudwal, Sanu, SPB
-SPB
-Udhas
-Paudwal
Regards,
Abhinav
In article <7r8989$8sc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
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Rafi fan.
Pankaj
>Does poetry count? The poem version is on my audio tape, and it's music to
>the ears anyway.
Bravo, Adrian! That is very well expressed. And a very good example
of song with three versions, one that is apt to be overlooked.
By now, situations where two-song tandems show up in Hindi films have
become canonical. One can even predict when they are about to show up.
I suspect that as far as three-song tandems are concerned, the contexts
would be more unusual, at least for one of the three versions. And
fascinating irregardless of whether they are by three distinct singers
or by fewer than three singers; or whether they are a combination of
solos, duets, and chorus songs.
In many cases below, I don't know the cinematic reason behind three
versions, or any unusual features of the context. I hope RMIMers/RAMLIers
who have seen the film will supply the "scene on the screen" details
(or correct my account if wrong.)
Adrain, how about doing the honours for "kabhi kabhi mere dil me.n"?
*
The first time I heard three versions of a song sung by three distinct
singers was in a Kannada film 'Sandhya Raaga' (1966). The film was
based on a famous novel of the same name by "a na k^Ri", about the
life of a singer. Reflecting the presence in Karnataka of both Uttaraadi
and Dakshinaadi traditions, (along with typical filmsong tradition!),
the film had three versions of the song
. nambide ninna naada dEvateye
abhimaana taLeda taaye bhaarateye
The Hindustani version of the song was sung by Bhimsen Joshi, the
Karnataka-music version by Balamuralikrishna and the "regular
filmsong version" by S. Janaki. Lyrics were by GV Iyer and the
music for the film was composed by GK Venkatesh as well as BMK
BMK composed the classical songs, one of which is a "duet" sung
by BMK and Bhimsen Joshi! (Purandara Dasa's "ee pariya sobagaava
dEvarali kaaNe".)
If I remember right, the song is in Bhairavi. Two of the versions
occur in fairly typical situations, I think. The third is unusual.
Due to various medodramatically poignant reasons, the singer hero.
played by Rajkumar, takes a vow never to sing Bhairavi again. This
peculiar omission in his concerts gets noticed and demand for him
sing Bharavi mounts. Finally,in a concert the demand gets very
strident and the hero relents.He sings the third version of the
song and breaths his last. (A question to those who remember the
film better: does the Janaki version come as the heroine, Bharathi,
sings the Bhairavi in a concert, in lieu of the hero?)
*
The next instance of a fullfledged three-version tandem song to
come to my attention was a slightly earlier one, from 'Ghazal'
(1964). I think, after 'Railway Platform', it is the only other
time Sahir and Madan Mohan came together. Although it doesn't
have masterpieces of the calibre of "chaand maddham hai" and
"basti basti parbat parbat", on the whole the soundtrack lives
up to the expectations. The triple tandem is "kise pesh karoo.N",
once by Lata and twice by Rafi; one of the Rafi versions a nazm,
the other two ghazals.
Here is a wonderful post on the three songs posted many seasons
ago by guri, an RMIMer we don't get to read much these days.
Surajit Bose can take the post bodily into his FITB series for
ISB songs #93 and #218.
=============================
Subject: "Kise Pesh KarooN?"
Date: 10 Jun 1995 05:40:58 GMT
It is good to be back after a partly virus-imposed silence...Pesh hai
some Sahir stuff related to the movie GAZAL (Sunil Dutt, Meena Kumari,
Rehman / Madan Mohan )...as mentioned during RJGK 22 he wrote three
ham-radeef ghazals there - the second line of each sheyr ending with
'kise pesh karooN':
1. Lata... (Meena Kumari is a 'shaayiraa', here she's sharing her
new kalaam with her friends)
nagHmaa-o-sher ki saugHaat kise pesh karooN
ye chhalakte huye jazbaat kise pesh karooN
shaukh aaNkhoN ke ujaaloN ko luTaooN kis par
mast zulfoN ki siyaah raat kise pesh karooN
Garm saaNsoN meiN chhupe raaz bataaooN kis ko
narm hoThoN meiN dabee baat kise pesh karooN
koyi hamraaz to paaooN koyi hamdam to mile
dil ki dhaRkan ke isaahaaraat kise pesh karooN
2. Rafi...(Sunil Dutt evesdrops on the above mehfil, tries to meet
Meena Kumari, can't get anywhere, 'maaros' her ghazal, adds some sheyrs
of his own aur pahuNch jaate haiN janaab ek mushaayire meiN jahaaN
Meena is planning to sing the above ghazal, and sings the following
before her :)
ishq ki garmi-e-jazbaat kise pesh karooN
ye sulagte huye din raat kise pesh karooN
tei aawaaz ke jadoo ne jagaayaa hai jinheN
vo tassawwur vo khayaalaat kise pesh karooN
ae meri jaan-e-ghazal, ae meri eemaan-e-ghazal
ab sivaa tere ye naghmaat kise pesh karooN
koyi hamraaz to paaooN koyi hamdam to mile
dil ki dhaRkan ke ishaaraat kise pesh karooN
Obviously she gets upset and comes out of 'pardaa' to confront him, and
he gets to see her :)
3. Rafi... (This is towards the end...Meena has mysteriously and
suddenly lost her voice, so even though she loves Sunil Dutt, she
decides not to marry him becoz she thinks he loves her only for her
voice, so she's about to get married to Rehman and Sunil Dutt comes
there to sing the 'sehraa' - a tradition I alluded to earlier)...here
the sheyrs have three lines each:
rang aur noor ki baaraat kise pesh karooN
ye muraadoN ki haseeN raat kise pesh karooN
maine jazbaat nibhaye haiN usooloN ki jageh
apne armaan piro laayaa hooN phooloN ki jageh
tere sehre ki ye saughaat kise pesh karooN
ye mere sheyr mere aakhri nazraane haiN
maiN un apnoN meiN hooN jo aaj se begaane haiN
be-taAlluk si mulaaqaat kise pesh karooN
surkh joDe ki tab-o-taab mubaaraq ho tujhe
teri aaNkhoN ka nayaa khaab mubaaraq ho tujhe
maiN ye khaahish ye khayaalaat kise pesh karooN
kaun kehtaa hai ke chaahat pe sabhi ka haq hai
too jise chaahe teraa pyaar usee ka haq hai
mujh se kehde maiN teraa haath kise pesh karooN
Meena Kumari is overwhelmed when she hears this, and the sadmaa is
enough to bring her voice back...as mysteriously as it vanished, so
poor Rehman is pretty much kicked out, and she gets married to...who
else?!!! :)
Apart from the sheyrs included above, I snapped these two from the
movie:
husn aur husn ka har raaz abhi parde meiN hai
apnee nazroN ki shikaayaat kise pesh karooN
dil ki kehtaa hooN to kehte ho 'buree baat hai, na!'
tum hi kehdo ye buree baat kise pesh karooN
Now, 'Gaataa Jaaye Banjaaraa' is supposedly a collection of his
filmi-shaayari, and it has the following piece that has similar ends of
second lines...dunno which movie this is from:
apnaa dil pesh karooN, apnee wafaa pesh karooN
kuchh samajh meiN nahiN aataa tujhe kyaa pesh karooN
mere khwaaboN meiN bhi tu, mere khayaaloN mein bhi tu
kaun si cheez tujhe tujh se judaa pesh karooN
jo tere dil ko lubhaa le, vo adaa mujhme nahiN
kyooN na tujhko koyi teree hi adaa pesh karooN
tere milne ki khushee meiN koyi naghmaa chheDooN
ya tere dard-e-judaayi ka gilaa pesh karooN
kaafi kuchh pesh kar diyaa ek hi radeef ko lekar masterji ne! :))
______________________________________________________
guri
firaaq zehar hai deedaar chaahiye ae dost
davaa bataate haiN tumko jo do jahaaN meiN nahiN !
=======================================
*
The next triple tandem I encountered was from 'Taqdeer'
(1967: Anand Bakshi: L-P). The song is
. jab jab bahaar aayi, aur phool muskuraaye
mujhe tum yaad aaye
The versions are by Lata and chorus; Rafi; and the third
one by Mahendra Kapoor, Usha Mangeskhar, and Usha Timothy.
I don't even remember if I have seen the film! The songs
have the feel of depicting a family scattered and reuinited.
*
An unexpected encounter with a three-version song happened
with 'Rudaali' (1992?). I had heard the Lata versions of
both "samay o dheere chalo" and "dil hum hum kare ghabaraaye"
on the radio. Then saw the film through very bad videotape.
Noticed that the song fragments came often, but couldn't pay
detailed attention because of the aweful quality. It was
when I listened to the tape that I realized one song came in
three distinct non-fragmentary versions, respectively by
Lata, Asha, and the music director Bhupen Hazarika:
. samay o dheere chalo
Is the following line something like "bujh gayi raah se
chhaa.nv"? Given that the lyricist is Gulzar, I suppose
there is no point in wondering what it means!
*
Another case of fullfledged triple tandem, I became
aware of reading RMIM. It is from 'Aap To Aise Na The'
(1980; Nida Faazli; Usha Khanna):
. tu is tarah se meri zindagi me.n shaamil hai
in three solo versions sung by Manhar, Hemlata, and Rafi.
I have no idea of the cast or story of the film.
*
If one were to relax the requirement that each of the three
versions be a complete song, there might be quite aa few
more cases, where one of the versions is a fragment. The
examples Srinvias mentioned perhaps fall into this category:
'Jab Jab Phool Khile' and 'Pyar Ka Mausam'. 'Andaz' would
be of interest because there the Rafi fragment makes it a
third voice.
Let me just add one interesting instance: 'Phir Subah Hogi'
(1958: Sahir: Khaiyaam). I don't remember the film too well,
but recall that the song "vo subah kabhi to aayegi" comes
four times:
. As a Mukesh-Asha duet, with Asha providing vocal background
singing (sad)
. Mukesh solo (sad)
. Asha solo (background song; brief version with one
stanza: maana ke tere aur mere aramaano.n ki keemat.." (sad)
. Mukesh-Asha duet toward the end of the film (happy)
No particular dramatic significance to the multiple occurrences.
The first two come in fairly quick succession. The last one is
lyrically interesting, because it is optmistic in mood:
vo subah hami (hamhi.n?) se aayegi
vo subah hami to laayenge
It occurs to me that in 'Seema' (1955:Hasrat: S-J), the song
"suno chhoTi si guDiyaa ki lambi kahaani" occurs three times,
although the first two versions, both sad, are separated only
briefly. The recordings also run the two sad versions together,
*
A couple of instances where the fragmentary "third" version
is sung by chorus voices:
. The title song of Amon Palekar's musical 'Thoda Sa Romani Ho
Jaaye' (is it a late 80s film?) comes in three versions:
solo by Chhaya Ganguli, solo by Vinod Rathod, and then a
version by chorus. Lyrics were by Kamlesh Pande and music
by Bhaskar Chandavarkar.
. "kuchh na kaho" from '1942 A Love Story' (Javed Akhtar, RDB)
has, in addition to solos by Kumar Sanu and Lata, a brief
chorus version.
Haven't seen either of the two films. Commentary on what
UVR calls "scene on the screen" welcome on them, and on any
song mentioned above.
Ashok
Of the many Madan Mohan movies that come tom mind, I think his
lyricists of choice were Rajinder Kishan (Jahanara, Adalat, Jailor,
Sanjog, Sharabi, Man Mauji, Pocketmaar, Dekh Kabira Roya..) and Raja
Mehdi Ali Khan (Anpadh, Mera Saya, Woh Kaun Thi, Aapki Parchaiyaan...),
a few with Kaifi Azmi (Bawarchi, Haqeeqat, Hanste Zakhm, and Heer
Ranjha come to mind the first).
Regards,
Abhinav
In article <7rc4fu$1r...@news1.newsguy.com>,
--
Rafi fan.
If I remember it right, Bharathi sings it on the night of the marriage to
Rajkumar. Also in a different movie, I remember Bharathi singing a song when
the visiting prospective groom's (Rajkumar's) family asks her to sing a
song. So I might have transposed two songs from two different movies.
Arun