What raga is "Raina Beeti Jaaye" based on?

[anu]

What raga is the Lata song "Raina Beeti Jaaye" from Amar Prem (Rajesh
Khanna/ Sharmila Tagore, Music by RDBurman) based on?

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[S44218]

thought it was based on Raga Lalit... Maybe someone else knows.

Sandip

[sanj...@my-deja.com]

In article <19991014221436...@ng-bg1.aol.com>,

s44...@aol.com (S44218) wrote:
> thought it was based on Raga Lalit... Maybe someone else knows.
>

depends on where your "sa" is...based on the bit of alap that precedes
the song, it's more like todi...that too, only the lines "raina beeti
jaaye, shyaam na aaye" - the rest is something else, maybe khamaj-ish.

--
Sanjeev Ramabhadran

[Surajit A. Bose]

In article <19991017005001...@ng-fq1.aol.com>, s44...@aol.com
(S44218) wrote:

> I agree with Surajit... Knowing the raga or not behind the song is not that
> important for the overall enjoyment of the performance.

That's not quite what I said....I said it depends on the song. It makes
sense to discuss "aaj gaavat man mero jhuumake" as a song in Desi, or or
even "nigaahe.n milaane ko jii chaahataa hai" as a song in Yaman. But I
balk at calling "koii ham_dam na rahaa" Shivranjani or "bainyaan naa dharo
balamaa" Charukeshi. It's a grey area, and I'm not sure where I'd draw the
line. (Actually, I was hoping that somebody would try to define that
line.)

I won't categorically say that "knowing the raaga or not behind the song"
is unimportant. There's a law of diminishing returns, that's all. When a
song seems only vaguely related to any raaga structure, I'm not sure it's
worthwhile trying to pin that structure down...

-s

[sanj...@my-deja.com]

In article <sbose-17109...@dialin19.saintmarys.edu>,

sb...@saintmarys.edu (Surajit A. Bose) wrote:
> In article <19991017005001...@ng-fq1.aol.com>,
s44...@aol.com
> (S44218) wrote:
>
> > I agree with Surajit... Knowing the raga or not behind the song is
not that
> > important for the overall enjoyment of the performance.
>
> That's not quite what I said....I said it depends on the song. It
makes
> sense to discuss "aaj gaavat man mero jhuumake" as a song in Desi, or
or
> even "nigaahe.n milaane ko jii chaahataa hai" as a song in Yaman. But
I
> balk at calling "koii ham_dam na rahaa" Shivranjani

um, er...Jhinjhoti (this is just Surajit typing too fast, I bet). This
is a tough one, IMO. To me, Jhinjhoti's contours are pretty specific,
and I think a lot of this song fits in, though I don't know that KK
consciously THOUGHT Jhinjhoti when he composed this.

[Niranjan R. Pedanekar]

the opening line is more like raag toDi.

niranjan

anu <anusri...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> What raga is the Lata song "Raina Beeti Jaaye" from Amar Prem (Rajesh
> Khanna/ Sharmila Tagore, Music by RDBurman) based on?
>
>

[wolf...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, anu wrote:
> What raga is the Lata song "Raina Beeti Jaaye" from Amar Prem (Rajesh
> Khanna/ Sharmila Tagore, Music by RDBurman) based on?
>
>
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> Before you buy.

Todi

[wolf...@gmail.com]

It is a morning raga called TODI.

[sagn...@gmail.com]

I have no knowledge of Hindustaani Classical music. However, I heard in an interview Mr.RD Burman says it can be either Todi or Lalit on how you interpret it. Again in another documentary his flutist says its majorly Khamaaj. So i think its a mix of all these three raagas.

Hope that was of any help!! :)

[abh...@gmail.com]

It starts with Todi and then the antara goes into Khamaj ...see "Pancham Unmixed" where this is explained bt Pt. Ronu Mozumdar.

Thanx
Arup

[suhas...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 14, 1999 at 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, anu wrote:
> What raga is the Lata song "Raina Beeti Jaaye" from Amar Prem (Rajesh
> Khanna/ Sharmila Tagore, Music by RDBurman) based on?
>
>
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> Before you buy.

Lalit

[c.war...@gmail.com]

same case with "mere naina sawan bhado...." (shivranjani) where both the gandhars are used...but it sounds good

[psbo...@gmail.com]

It is Raag Khamaj. g g sa g ma pa ga ma ni dha ma pa dha ga.

[drgin...@gmail.com]

Based on raag todi

[hrish...@gmail.com]

It's based on Raaga Lalit.
Aroha- Ni re Ga ma Ma^ dha Ni Sa
Avaroha- Sa Ni dha Ma^ ma Ga re Sa

Chalana- Ni re Ga ma dha, Ma^ dha Ma^ ma

☺☺☺

[hrish...@gmail.com]

[renude...@gmail.com]

About the song, Panchamda told that he composed this song on Raag Todi. However, according to his गुरु, after the first line (mukhda), the song is based on Raag Lalit.