BGAK - Rag Kaushi Dhani?
Bill
book, Khyal - Creativity within North India's classical musical
tradition, includes excellent transcriptions of two segments of a
performance in sargam by Bade Ghulam Ali Khan of Rag Kaushi Dhani in
rupak tal, "He mana... (and sargam syllables)" - Gramaphone Company of
India LP 1265.
Wade's comments on this performance are informative, but mostly in
regard to the performer; his style and his eccentricities. My own meager
references contain little beyond mention of Rag Kaushi Dhani. (Including
a newsgroup search' : Ustad Bade Gulam Ali Khan CDs released by AIR -
Date:12/22/1997 Author: nataraj, and this from G.N. Joshi:
http://www.ultranet.com/~shivpal/Patiala/BadeGhulam.htm
"...Aare Teri, I clean forgot about that,' he exclaimed. 'Never mind, we
shall do it tomorrow morning.' The following morning he sang first Raga
Gunakali and then something that sounded to me like Khambavati or
Rageshri. He told me that it was neither, but was known as Kaushi
Dhani...")
Someone please correct my assumption that this particular recording
has never been reformatted commercially to cd or cassette.
Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani in
general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?
(Also, the availability of BGAK's famous rendition of ‘Hari Om
Tatsat' ?)
Sincerely, Bill
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Bill <rosebe...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> "...Aare Teri, I clean forgot about that,' he exclaimed. 'Never mind,
we
> shall do it tomorrow morning.' The following morning he sang first
Raga
> Gunakali and then something that sounded to me like Khambavati or
> Rageshri. He told me that it was neither, but was known as Kaushi
> Dhani...")
> Someone please correct my assumption that this particular
recording
> has never been reformatted commercially to cd or cassette.
> Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
> this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani
in
> general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?
>
AFAIK Kaushi Dhani is the same as Bhinna Shadja (S G M D N S", S" N D M
G S) - if you flatten the Ni, you get (one type of) Khambhavati (and if
you add in the R, you get the scale of Rageshri).
Don't know about recordings of other stalwarts in this raga (I don't
think it's very old), but I do believe this has been transferred to
CD/cassette (isn't it on the backside of Darbari, drut="Anokha Laadla
Re"?). "Hari Om Tatsat" had been included in a re-release of the LP
with day/night ragas (Gurjari Todi, Desi, Bhimpalas, etc.), and I'm
sure that it's available on at least cassette by now.
--
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
Chetan Vinchhi
Bill wrote:
>
> Someone please correct my assumption that this particular recording
> has never been reformatted commercially to cd or cassette.
The Kaushi Dhani - Darbari Kanada album has indeed been
released in cassette form. I do not recall having seen
the Kaushi Dhani on a CD.
> (Also, the availability of BGAK's famous rendition of 践ari Om
> Tatsat' ?)
This is in a single tape release in the Sheer Magic series
by HMV that contains a number of short pieces (starting
with the beautiful Gurjari Todi). I believe this compilation
has been recently released as a CD.
C
Rajan P. Parrikar
> Wade's comments on this performance are informative, but mostly in
>regard to the performer; his style and his eccentricities.
This is consistent with the fact that if you offered Wade a
penny for all her knowledge of rAga you would get back some
change.
> Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
>this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani in
>general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?
There are at least four auDav jAti rAgas that share
the common scale (M=shuddha): S G M D N. They are
Bhinna Shadaj, Audav Bilawal, Hindoli and Kaushik Dhwani.
Hindoli and Bhinna Shadaj are regarded as one by some,
some others argue that differences in phrasings exist.
For instance, Bhinna Shadaj emphasizes the gandhAr,
whereas Kaushik Dhwani the shuddha madhyam. There
is no consensus regarding the precise lines that
demarcate these rAgas and the few experts I have
talked to in India maintain that theirs' is the 'true'
version.
In the realm of performance too, no clean difference is
available. People who sing Bhinna Shadaj sometimes accord
equal weight to both the gandhAr and the madhyam. This
kind of thing is not surprising with a non-mainstream
auDav jAti rAga. There are no strict dos and don'ts. One
can play around and generate different facets (shakal) with
minimal effort.
For a superb B-Shadaj refer to Kishori Amonkar. You
will also hear an occasional use of the tAr-rishab.
Her live recording is truly memorable - the tAns, the
bol-tAns, all conceived grandly and executed to
perfection.
AIR-Panjim used to often play a beautiful flute
solo in Kaushik Dhwani by Venkatesh Godkhindi, who
is now the station director of AIR-Dharwad. Ajoy
Chakraborty also has a recording but I won't be
caught dead listening to him. On second thought,
I _may_ be caught dead after listening to him.
Warm regards,
r
Warren Senders
>think it's very old), but I do believe this has been transferred to
>CD/cassette (isn't it on the backside of Darbari, drut="Anokha Laadla
>Re"?).
I believe you are referring to a CD by Ghulam Mustafa Khan.
WS
Vivek R. Datar
>In article <82gtdi$mha$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Bill <rosebe...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> "...Aare Teri, I clean forgot about that,' he exclaimed. 'Never mind,
>we
>> shall do it tomorrow morning.' The following morning he sang first
>Raga
>> Gunakali and then something that sounded to me like Khambavati or
>> Rageshri. He told me that it was neither, but was known as Kaushi
>> Dhani...")
>> Someone please correct my assumption that this particular
>recording
>> has never been reformatted commercially to cd or cassette.
>> Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
>> this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani
>in
>> general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?
>>
Two songs come to my mind. "Ood Ja Re Kaaga" from Meera Bhajans
sung by Lata Mangeshkar and "Jaya Deva Jaya Deva Jayajaya
Shivaraaya", which is in album Shivaklayna Raja, both composed
by Hridaynath Mangeshkar. I think the later one uses Pancham
as well in few places, but mostly it is Bhinna Shadja.
-Vivek
>AFAIK Kaushi Dhani is the same as Bhinna Shadja (S G M D N S", S" N D M
>G S) - if you flatten the Ni, you get (one type of) Khambhavati (and if
>you add in the R, you get the scale of Rageshri).
>Don't know about recordings of other stalwarts in this raga (I don't
>think it's very old), but I do believe this has been transferred to
>CD/cassette (isn't it on the backside of Darbari, drut="Anokha Laadla
Rajan P. Parrikar
>Two songs come to my mind. "Ood Ja Re Kaaga" from Meera Bhajans
>sung by Lata Mangeshkar and "Jaya Deva Jaya Deva Jayajaya
>Shivaraaya", which is in album Shivaklayna Raja, both composed
>by Hridaynath Mangeshkar. I think the later one uses Pancham
>as well in few places, but mostly it is Bhinna Shadja.
>
>-Vivek
There are a few quasi-Bhinna Shadaj/Kaushik Dhwani
non-classical compositions other than the ones you
have cited. There's Lata's "balamA anADi man bhAye"
(from _Bahurani_?), Manna Dey's mukhDA in the _Bawarchi_
number, "tum bin jeevan kaisA jeevan." Then, of course,
we have that sheer work of genius in Bade Ghulam Ali
Khan's rendition of his immortal thumri "yAd piyA ki Ayi."
It may be mentioned that some of the above compositions
saunter into territory of allied rAgas such as Hemant
and Chakradhar (and even Rageshree).
Hemant is a conception of Alladiya Khan of
Maihar (his boy has a parking spot named after him
in San Rafael, CA). It is built out of the basic scale
of Bhinna Shadaj but there's the crucial avarohi vakra
prayoga of the rishab and pancham. A little reflection also
reveals the possibility of an AvirbhAva of Raga Maru Bihag
via a grAha-bhedam to the shuddha madhyam of Hemant.
There are some beautiful new compositions now available
in Hemant for the vocalist, primarily due to Ramashreya
Jha "Ramrang." Balwantrai Bhatt has also produced a
gem or two.
Warm regards,
r
Rajan P. Parrikar
>Hemant is a conception of Alladiya Khan of Maihar.
^^^^^^^^
Allauddin.
r
sanj...@my-deja.com
war...@aol.comqwerty (Warren Senders) wrote:
> >Don't know about recordings of other stalwarts in this raga (I don't
> >think it's very old), but I do believe this has been transferred to
> >CD/cassette (isn't it on the backside of Darbari, drut="Anokha Laadla
> >Re"?).
>
>
> WS
>
No, though I have heard the one you were talking about
(vilambit="Hazrat Turakman") - BGAK's vilambit is something like
"Sughar (Kunjan?) Madha Peevan Re".
Sajjad Khaliq
: Someone please correct my assumption that this particular recording
: has never been reformatted commercially to cd or cassette.
: Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
: this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani in
: general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?
A recording of Ustad Salamat Ali Khan singing Rag Kaushik Dhani exists.
Further, it was a rag that the two brothers, Nazakat & Salamat Ali
Khan used to quite a lot, when the two used to sing together.
dee...@pathcom.com
parr...@ferrari.Colorado.EDU (Rajan P. Parrikar) wrote:
As for Kaushik Dhwani, there are commercial recs. also by Pt. Maniram and
Sandhya Mukherjee, disciple of BGAK.
I quite enjoyed Herr Parrrikar's Freudian (?) slip, if indeed it was, here
below. Alladiya of Maihar. Very interesting.
You know who Rajan.
> Hemant is a conception of Alladiya Khan of
Ashok
newsguy server for some reason. Saw it in Deja. So,
re-posting it.
Ashok
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In article <82gtdi$mha$1...@nnrp1.deja.com> Bill <rosebe...@my-deja.com> writes:
> Wade's comments on this performance are informative, but mostly in
>regard to the performer; his style and his eccentricities.
This is consistent with the fact that if you offered Wade a
penny for all her knowledge of rAga you would get back some
change.
> Would anyone be willing to provide further information regarding
>this recording, this composition by another artist, rag Kaushi Dhani in
>general, or other good commercially available recs. in Kaushi Dhani?