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khyal female singer who was a disciple of Ustad Amir Khan. If I remember, her
name was (Purabi ?) Mukerjee. If anyone knows something about her, it will be
appreciated. Thank you.
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TANSEN8106
The vocalist whom u might be thinking of is definitely Kankana Banerjee. She
became Amir Khsbss shagird at a very young age and I think she is also the
niece of Nikhil Banerjee.
I have quite a lot of her private performances on tape although personally I am
not a great fan of her work. She cannot compete with the likes of Parween
Sultana, Kesarbai Kerkar and Malika-e-Mausiqui Roshan Ara Begum.
Regards
Tansen8106
Mandar Mitra
> The vocalist whom u might be thinking of is definitely Kankana Banerjee.
Unlikely, since Amir Khan did have a disciple by the name
of Purabi Mukherjee (see the original post). AFAIR, she and
her husband Pradyumna Kumud Mukherjee were among Amir Khan's
earliest disciples. Don't know much else, but will try to
find out.
m.
Abhay P
>
>(snip)
>I have quite a lot of [Kankana Bannerjee's] private performances on tape
>although personally I am
>not a great fan of her work. She cannot compete with the likes of Parween
>Sultana, Kesarbai Kerkar and Malika-e-Mausiqui Roshan Ara Begum.
>
comparison somewhat unfair. How many singers can stand up to comparison with
Kesarbai and Roshanara Begum? Also, is such comparison even warranted (except
perhaps between artistes of the same gharana)? To choose favourite vocalists
just for fun is okay, but to dismiss someone just because he/she is not as good
as the best is unfair.
Finally, to put screech-queen Parveen Sultana in the same class as Kesarbai or
Roshanara Begum amounts to sacrilege IMO!
Regards
Abhay
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tanse...@aol.com (TANSEN8106) wrote:
You really burn me up Tansen8 (or is it the other way around?). She is NB's
cousin not niece and I think she gives Parween a good run for her taka.
warm regards
--deepak
> Hi
deepak raag
(Mandar Mitra) wrote:
> > The vocalist whom u might be thinking of is definitely Kankana Banerjee.
>
> Unlikely, since Amir Khan did have a disciple by the name
It certainly is Kankanadi. In fact in the Amir Khan Sahib film she is also
present along with Purabidi (Nikhilda's cousin sister too). Her husband
late Sunil Banerjee was also a shagird of Khansahib. He sounded like KS
internally, as it were, not externally (superficially) like Gokulutsavji.
--deepak
TANSEN8106
This message is in response to my great comrade, highly learned buddy Deepak.
My ears find it hard to believe that Kankana ji can even compete in the
slightest with the likes of Kishori Amonkar ji or Parween Sultana.
Parween baji can tear many male vocalists apart with her gayaki comprising of
taans, spaats and quick fire sargams and her perfection of sur is matchless. I
feel that Kankana ji lacks the depth and tonal quality to match Parween baji.
But one thing I do respect Kankana ji for is that she is carrying forward the
ang of Amir Khsb which is extremely difficult to do. Her private performance of
Bhimplasi still lingers in my mind.
Sizzling hot regards!!!
TAnsen8106
BTW: It was Deepak who burnt me, would i do such a thing?!.....
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Chetan Vinchhi
>
> Parween baji can tear many male vocalists apart with her gayaki comprising of
Without getting into the Kankana vs. Parween war, let me point out
the highly chauvinistic nature of your statement. You seem to imply
that males are in general superior to female vocalists. May I ask
you the basis of this statement?
> ...and her perfection of sur is matchless.
This is simply not true. Perfection of sur is not one of Parweenji's
strengths. In fact, she goes quite besura quite ofen in her taans.
And the very high-speed noises she tries to pass of as taans are so
much off the mark in terms of sur they have no place in true
classical music.
The only outstanding aspect of Parweenji's music is her range. I have
never heard a more powerful and consistent mandra-Sa. And she easily
scales the ati-taar-Ma.
C
Sajjad Khaliq
: Finally, to put screech-queen Parveen Sultana in the same class as Kesarbai or
: Roshanara Begum amounts to sacrilege IMO!
Well put! In my opinion, no matter how good a vocalist is, if the voice is
not good, they're not much good at all. Parveen's voice is just too
shrill. Is there no way she can adapt a more mellow, less irritating
voice? One would think with age, her shrillness would subside.
--
Sajjad Khaliq / Hamilton / Ontario / Canada
Sajjad Khaliq
: You really burn me up Tansen8 (or is it the other way around?). She is NB's
: cousin not niece and I think she gives Parween a good run for her taka.
: warm regards
With a name like Deepak, just about anything would "burn" you up!
Sorry, couldn't resist that one!
"Warm regards", is that a pun?
Icarus
Could anybody supply some background info on Parveen..her blistering sargam
taans and tyaari indicate a Patiala style singing.
Am I right? - MIshra
Sajjad Khaliq wrote in message <6ovch2$bj1$1...@mohawk.hwcn.org>...
TANSEN8106
<skmi...@sprintmail.com>wrote:
>Parveen Sultana has a beautiful voice and I like it just the way it is.
>Could anybody supply some background info on Parveen..her blistering sargam
>taans and tyaari indicate a Patiala style singing.
>Am I right? - MIshra
Mishra ji. U r absolutely spot on!!! Everything about Parveen baji's gayaki is
great,,
Parveen baji was initiated into music by her father Khan Mohammad Ikramujid
Khan who was the disciple of Ustad Gul Mohammad Khan of Karachi. Ghulam
Mohammad Khsb was the disciple of Khansahib Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, so that
explains why Parveen's singing has the khushboo of the Patiala gharana.
From 1960 Parveen baji became the shagird of Pandit Chinmoy Lahiri of Calcutta
and he was solely responsible for polishing her art .
I have also heard that she was the youngest vocalist to receive the Padamshree
Award in 1976.
In my opinion she is the best female vocalist in the sub-continent. But I am
certain that as always there will be a comrade who'll dispute this!!!!
Regards
Mian Tansen
Venkatesh Padmanabhan
Venkat.
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A.Pavan
started her musical association with Dilshad Khan though, her music has
been steadily on the decline. I heard a recent recording and she sounded
bad ! Dilshad Khan is real bad news too !! Wonder what made her go to
Dilshad Khan.
Pavan
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TANSEN8106
Pavan wrote:
>I like Parveen too, but only on her older recordings. Ever since she
>started her musical association with Dilshad Khan though, her music has
>been steadily on the decline. I heard a recent recording and she sounded
>bad ! Dilshad Khan is real bad news too !! Wonder what made her go to
>Dilshad Khan.
>
>Pavan
I am in complete agreement with u Pavan. Her recordings from the 70s were
wonderful. Her association with Dilshad Khsb has had a bad impact on her
singing. Dilshad Khsb has some sort of attitude problem and is not a good
vocalist, however I do think he is a great musicologist. I also think that
PArveen baji should not sing with Dilshad Khansahib as it looks extremely odd.
But still PArveen baji alongwith Kishori ji r the best female vocalists in the
sub continent!!!
In my view every artiste has a peak in his musical career and in PArveen baji's
case it was definitely the 70s and early 80s , she just "rocked"!!! Last year I
was fortunate enough to hear, her recitals of Jog and Puriya Dhanasri of that
tour were outstanding, I must add she toured without Khsb Dilshad Khan.
I would recommend Parveen bajis recordings of Rajni Kalyan, Deen Todi,
Nandkauns and Ahir Bhairav.
Regards
Tansen8106
Chetan Vinchhi
>
> Well put! In my opinion, no matter how good a vocalist is, if the voice is
> not good, they're not much good at all.
On the contrary, Sajjad, basic voice quality plays no
role whatsoever in determining in how well that voice
can sing. Mind you, the perceived voice quality of a
singer is determined by basic quality plus voice
production technique (including modulation, nasality
etc.) So it is not very easy to decide what the basic
voice quality is like. However, IMO, poor voice quality
did not prevent Mallikarjun Mansur and Faiyyaz Khan
from becoming the finest of singers.
C
S.K.Mishra
Chetan Vinchhi wrote in message <35B7A7...@lucent.com>...
>Sajjad Khaliq wrote:
> However, IMO, poor voice quality
>did not prevent Mallikarjun Mansur and Faiyyaz Khan
>from becoming the finest of singers.
I differ with you, Ustad Faiyyaz khan had a very sweet and sonorous voice, I
have this from a source who listened to him in person (and I mean listened
quite a lot) and is not infering this from his recordings. - Mishra
deepak raag
<skmi...@us.oracle.com> wrote:
In total accord w/ you regarding Faiyaz Khansahib. Mallikarjun's voice can
hardly be described as poor. On the contrary it was/is one of the finest
voices of ICM IMO.
warm regards as whatshisname says,
--deepak