Gorakh Kalyan approx == Andolika?

[rrka...@hotmail.com]

Question for Hindustani/Carnatic buffs:

I was listening to a rendition of Gorakh Kalyan by Parveen sultana
which seemed to be a raga remarkably similar to Andolika...Is this the
closest Carnatic equivalent or are my Hndustani-untutored ears playing
tricks on me? Any info/scales etc will be appreciated..

Thanks

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(Ram Kaushik) rrka...@hotmail.com writes:
>Question for Hindustani/Carnatic buffs:
>
>I was listening to a rendition of Gorakh Kalyan by Parveen sultana
>which seemed to be a raga remarkably similar to Andolika...Is this the
>closest Carnatic equivalent or are my Hndustani-untutored ears playing
>tricks on me? Any info/scales etc will be appreciated..

Namashkar.

Subbarao remarks that Andolika has resemblance to Gorakh Kalyan
but that the likeness to the Hindustani Raga Sorat is greater.
Andolika's A/A set is given as (M=shuddha):
S R M P n S"::S" n D M R S

In Gorakh Kalyan the pancham swara is alpatva and is typically
used only in the avarohana. The nominal A/A set is:
S R M, D n D S"::S" n D M R, n' D' S
There are vakra prayogas, the nyAsa on the mandra komal nishAd
is characteristic of this rAga, and there's a strong madhyam.
The tAnas are usually not linear but "shaken" and gamaka-laden.
The pancham, if introduced, is typically treated thusly:
M R M D, n D, (D)P (P)M R, n' D' S... i.e. it is Andolita and
graced, not stand-alone. A stronger pancham may introduce chhAyAs
of Narayani.

Allied rAgas are the already mentioned Sorat, and Narayani (on
which you will find an article in the archives).

Warm regards,

r

[S.I. Krishnamachari]

Hi Ram,

Yes it is similar but not exactly. The raga that is exactly exactly
identical is called Nagavalli in C-M, with A/A as listed by Rajan, without
the vakra. Learned this point from OST, by demo. I will try to dig out a
mention of this in a quiz in Sruti magazine, by Ms. Seetha Rajan.

Chari.

<rrka...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7qbkld$32v$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> Question for Hindustani/Carnatic buffs:
>
> I was listening to a rendition of Gorakh Kalyan by Parveen sultana
> which seemed to be a raga remarkably similar to Andolika...Is this the
> closest Carnatic equivalent or are my Hndustani-untutored ears playing
> tricks on me? Any info/scales etc will be appreciated..
>