Music Notation - swaralipi - ghazals - ranjish hi sahi

[mune19...@yahoo.com]

I am looking for music notation ( not just lyrics) if available on
internet for hindi songs or ghazals . Any idea if available anywhere.

( not sure what the exact word for this notation is either ? is it
swaralipi ? again this is not lyrics or the raag or taal name).

In fact just the taal and notation in terms of where the SAM and KHALI
falls on the lyrics would help.

For example for ghazals like "ranjish hi sahi" or "chupke chupke raat
din". Does someone have this info. ?

[mune19...@yahoo.com]

Havent seen any responses to the post. Maybe the staff notation doesnt exist.

Anyway can someone provide the taal for the following songs,to start with.
Where the SAM falls , the counts etc.
( maybe there could be more added to the list later)

-Ranjish hi sahi
-Chupke Chupke raat din

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[MAUSAM]

Ran . jish hi . sa hi . (Taal Dadra 6 beats)
5 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 (Sam on beat 1, khali on beat 4)

Chup ke . Chup . ke . Ra . t din (Taal Rupak 7 beats)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 4 (traditionally khali on beat 1 and sam on beat 4)

Mausam

[Prasanna Tamhankar]

>
> Chup ke . Chup . ke . Ra . t din (Taal Rupak 7 beats)
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 4 (traditionally khali on beat 1 and sam on beat 4)
>
> Mausam

Isn't it more

Chup ke . Chup . ke . Ra . t din. (Taal Rupak 7 beats)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Is this what you mean by "khali on beat 1" ?
Cheers,
Prasanna

[Surinder Singh]

I have a lot of Swarlipis of old and new songs. I wanted to scan and put it
on a web site, but there was negligible response to it, so I abondoned the
idea. The swarlipis were helpful in my training on the Hawiaan guitar.

-surinder

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[Surinder Singh]

Forgot to mention. I have swarlipi of one song of Mukesh: Mai to ek khwaab
hoon. This song is in raag Todi, a serious raag. I wanted to scan more,
but due to lack of interest abondoned the idea.

-s

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[Bibhas]

mune19...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<d49d0219.04111...@posting.google.com>...

> I am looking for music notation ( not just lyrics) if available on
> internet for hindi songs or ghazals . Any idea if available anywhere.
>
> ( not sure what the exact word for this notation is either ? is it
> swaralipi ? again this is not lyrics or the raag or taal name).

Yes, the word is Swarlipi. There are a few websites with notations for
some hindi and tamil film songs. This is one of the better ones:
http://www.song-notes.com/
If you find better ones, especially for ghazals, please post.

Bibhas

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

MAUSAM <mau...@cs.washington.edu> writes:

>The placement of beat numbers with the words are as I described earlier.

They aren't. P. Tamhankar correctly gets what you didn't,
viz., the skip on the first matra, a striking feature of
Ghulam Ali's rendition of this ghazal.

Warm regards,

r

>Mausam
>**********************************************

[MAUSAM]

I meant that in rupak taal khali is on the first beat and sam on the
fourth beat ... contrary to most taals where the sam lies on the first
beat. As you can see that the taal starts with light weight (Ti Ti Na) and
the base joins only later in the fourth beat - which is the Sam.

The placement of beat numbers with the words are as I described earlier.

Mausam
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Prasanna Tamhankar wrote:

[MAUSAM]

Yes I agree. Sorry about that.

Moreover taal is rupak but the theka is a variant something like

Ti -Na -Na DhiDhi NaNa DhiDhi NaNa
|___| |___| |______| |____| |______| |____|

Mausam
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[naniwadekar]

"Rajan P. Parrikar" wrote -

>
> They aren't. P. Tamhankar correctly gets what you didn't,
> viz., the skip on the first matra, a striking feature of
> Ghulam Ali's rendition of this ghazal.
>

Is Mausam correct in saying that sam in Roopak
falls on the 4th beat? I have heard two versions before.
One says that sam and khali both fall on the first
maatraa in Roopak. The other version says Roopak
should be seen as a taal without sam and first maatraa
should be taken as khali.

How can tali on 4th beat be taken as sam? Sam must surely
be on first beat only?

- dn

[Manohar Bodas]

"naniwadekar" <nani3...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<319h7iF...@individual.net>...

Dhenuvallbh you will find it Govinrao Tembe's book. or else another
call to your country cousin.

MB

[Surinder Singh]

Try the following web site I put together for the only one Swarlip ...

http://www.joinme.net/surinder/

-s

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[bdixit]

I was always told that in rupak the SAM is on the Khali (i.e.
Tin).......Balwant Dixit

[swojas....@gmail.com]

Hey does anybody have harmonium notation of "chupke chupke"? pl post....

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[poonampr...@gmail.com]

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