Recordings of Raga Miyan ki Malhar ?
Stephan Claassen
I'd be very interested to know about them.
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Chetan Vinchhi
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> Does anyone know of good performances of Raga Miyan ki Malhar ?
> I'd be very interested to know about them.
Vocal:
1. The quintessential "karim naam tero" by Amir Khan Saheb, followed by
a short drut khayal (I forget the words), followed by "chhaaI badra
kaari kaari" in Ramdasi Malhar. Available on the 4-tape HMV
collection
of Amir Khan's recordings. I have not yet seen this on CD.
2. The short, but wonderful rendition of "aaye samdhan" in ektaal
recorded
by Pt.D.V.Paluskar. This is available on his Morning and Night Ragas
tape.
3. Vidyadhar Vyas has recorded a very nice MkM for CBS (available as a
single tape; the other side has Asavari and a bhajan). He also sings
"karim naam tero", in v.ektaal, "bol re papihara" in d.teental and
a drut tarana.
4. Veena Sahasrabuddhe has a nice one in her Tribute to Mian Tansen
two-tape release by Rhythm House. It has been a while since I heard
this so I don't remember the details. It is quite likely that she
has also sung "karim naam"!!
Question: Do the Jaipur folks sing MkM?
Instrumental:
1. Amjad Ali Khan's MkM is paired with his Megh Malhar on HMV's "The
Genius of Amjad Ali Khan v.1" CD. Both the tracks has been put
together by editing a handful of separate concerts. But the overall
effect of the MkM is very nice.
2. Amjad Ali's father, Ustad Hafiz Ahmed Khan also has an excellent
rendition of MkM. Released on an HMV tape. Have not seen a CD
version.
3. Hariprasad Chaurasia plays a nice enough MkM on one of his many
CDs from T-Series. Nothing spectacular.
Hope this helps.
Chetan
WARVIJ
of an lp; I'm pretty sure the bada khyal was "Karim
Nam Tero," and the drut bandish was in ektaal, "Ata
dhum dhum." He has recorded the same raag again as
part of the Music Today series; it is a pretty good
performance IMO (his sepulchral, gambhiri, voice is
very evocative of gathering clouds and all the usual
Malhari appurtenances). The drut bandish is an
unusual treatment of "Mohamad Shah Rangile," again
in ektaal, with the sum on "gi."
That vilambit bandish, "Karim Nam Tero," by the way,
was for a time the locus of considerable mispronunciation
by subordinate members of Bhimsen's chamcha-parampara.
The words were presented (and parsed, incomprehensibly,
in Devanagari) as "Kari Mana Matero," which means nothing
but still sounds good. If there is one quibble which we
can make against the Kirana-ites it is that their
preference for soft enunciation (which is helpful in
maintaining clear intonational focus) has de-emphasized
song text to the point of complete meaninglessness.
Jaipur performances of MkM are rare. Various aprachalit
Malhars are typically sung instead.
The Vidyadhar Vyas performance is ok IMO; he is
a very consistent performer, but not particularly a
risk-taker.
There is a nice recording by Aminuddin Dagar which
was released on lp a number of years back; I forget
the details but remember the performance as being
delightful.
There is an AIR recording of Ramakrishnabuwa Vaze
from, I believe, 1947. With Bundu Khan on sarangi
(his special lightweight instrument with the little
anthropomorphic peghead) and a youthful Alla Rakha
on tabla, Vazebuwa's performance is still commanding
despite his advanced years; his intonation is all over
the map, but the raga-bhav comes through loud and
clear. He had recorded the raag on a 78
somewhat earlier, also, but neither of these items are
commercially available. Oh yes, the chiz is "Bolare
Papiha"; Ashok Ranade points out Vazebua's skillful
use of sudden silences in his handling of this bandish,
creating a "chiaroscuro" effect.
Gotta run, my student just arrived.
Warren
AAkolkar
it is commercially available.
Ajit
Amit Chatterjee
Shahid Parvez (Biswas Records). It is quite good.
Regards.
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looong meends which Khansahib plays on the surbahar seems to me to be
impossible to do on sitar.
Also, I remember listening to a wonderful MkM recording of Ustad Bismillah
Khan.
war...@aol.com (WARVIJ) wrote:
> Bhimsen recorded MkM a long time ago on one side
> of an lp; I'm pretty sure the bada khyal was "Karim
> Nam Tero," and the drut bandish was in ektaal, "Ata
> dhum dhum." He has recorded the same raag again as
> part of the Music Today series; it is a pretty good
> performance IMO
Well I thought this one will easily qualify as a 'beautiful' performance, not
just 'pretty'! Bhimsen has also recorded MkM in a documentary made by James
Beveridge in ~1967. Its a 20 minute performance. I have not listened to this
one, but I read (in Bhimsen's biography by Mohan Nadkarni) that it is great.
It seems at one point Panditji sang in single breath for full 2 minutes
around tar-shadja and astounded Mr. Beveridge.
BTW, what is the equivalent of MkM in Carnatic music, if it exists? And has
the monsoon-raga of Carnatic origin "Amrutavarshini" been recorded in
Hindustani style (Ravi Shankar, Amjad or Raghunath Seth perhaps?... I hear
them play C-ragas quite often).
Regards,
-- Shriram S.
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> Warren
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Sajjad Khaliq
: Does anyone know of good performances of Raga Miyan ki Malhar ?
: I'd be very interested to know about them.
Here's my opinion:
Best vocal I have heard:
Bhimsen Joshi from a 1960's LP.
This performance really evokes the feeling of gathering rain clouds and
impending rain.
Instrumental:
From a 1960's LP "Music of the Monsoon" (double sided)
Amjad Ali Khan, sarod
Shanta Prashad, tabla
(Funnily enough, my copy of the LP was very bad on side one, and the
constant crackling gave a good "simulation" of rain drops!!
Amjad Ali Khan's 1980's CD from France also of Rag Mian ki Malhar, I feel
is quite a bit lacking compared with his first recording of Mian ki
Malhar.
Another good but not great performance is:
Ustad Vilayat Khan, sitar
Ustad Imrat Khan, surbahar
Shanta Prashad, tabla
Another 1960's LP ("The Great Heritage"); this includes a rendition of
Mian ki Malhar on one side. Wish it could have been longer; like the whole
LP.
--
Sajjad Khaliq / Hamilton / Ontario / Canada
Icarus
concert in Bombay. I haven't seen that particular recording available either
on CD or cassette.
The vilambit bandish is:
Baba topey baras rahi...
The drut bandish:
Shyam bina garjey nahin badra
Does anybody know if this is available commercially now? - Mishra
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Abhay P
>
>Bhimsen recorded MkM a long time ago on one side
>unusual treatment of "Mohamad Shah Rangile," again
>in ektaal, with the sum on "gi."
>
of this drut khyal, it has been in ektaal with the sum on the "gi". Is there any
other way it has been sung?
>Jaipur performances of MkM are rare. Various aprachalit
>Malhars are typically sung instead.
Agreed, but I seem to remember Miyan ki Malhar featured on Kishori Amonkar's
"Malhar Malika" set.
Regards
Abhay P
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'multitone prestige' label. Vilambit: same (Baba topey barsat rahim karim...)
and Drut: Gan Garjat barsat boondh boondh. This is also a fine recording,
IMO. The other items in this CD (actually double CD) are also good (basant,
Adi basant and a Guru Nanak bhajan in bhairavi). Tabla by Zakir.
The item 'Shyam bina...' is sung by Panditji as a bhajan in the Bhaktimala
series of Music today. It is rendered a bit light, though, and with
orchestra.
Regards,
-- Shriram S.
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"Icarus" <skmi...@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> I remember Pandit Jasraj-ji singing an exquisite composition in MKM in a
> concert in Bombay. I haven't seen that particular recording available either
> on CD or cassette.
> The vilambit bandish is:
> Baba topey baras rahi...
>
> The drut bandish:
> Shyam bina garjey nahin badra
>
> Does anybody know if this is available commercially now? - Mishra
>
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WARVIJ
>>The drut bandish is an
>>unusual treatment of "Mohamad Shah Rangile," again
>>in ektaal, with the sum on "gi."
Abhay asks:
>Why is the sum on the "gi" in "rangile" unusual?
>In every rendition I have heard
>of this drut khyal, it has been in ektaal with
>the sum on the "gi". Is there any
>other way it has been sung?
Well, I found it unusual for a few reasons. First,
I learned the same text as a vilambit khyal with
the sum on "Shah" after a nice ornamented approach
on "Mohamad;" I've heard it sung this way by others.
So hearing the text as a drut khyal was a pleasing
surprise. Second, the standard procedure for text
setting in drut ektal is to simply start directly on
sum. In this rendition, Bhimsen starts midway through
the theka, which makes the mukhda immediately
arresting (although rather at the cost of semantic
values). But if you've heard others from outside
Bhimsen's immediate sphere of influence sing it that
way, then I retract my description of the bandish as
unusual. Who did you hear? Any recordings?
Warren
Chetan Vinchhi
>
> The drut bandish is an
> unusual treatment of "Mohamad Shah Rangile," again
> in ektaal, with the sum on "gi."
I have not heard this. What is unusual about it?
I *have* heard a female vocalist (Kankana Banerjee,
perhaps?) sing the same chhota khayal in drut
ektaal, with the sam falling on 'gi'. The rendition
is lacklusture and outright atrocious in parts.
However, the beauty of the cheez itself is
overpowering. This was a part of the 2-tape HMV
release titled Phuhar. This also has a long
tarana in MkM by Nissar Hussain Khan.
BTW, Veena Sahasrabuddhe did sing "karim naam tero",
a chhota khayal and a tarana on the Rhythm House
release I mentioned earlier. She has also sung a
short MkM chhota khayal in her Ritu Chakra album
and a longish MkM tarana as a part of the TARANA
series of Music Today.
Parveen Sultana has recorded a nice MkM. The
vilambit khayal is "naveli rity aaI" and the drut
cheez is "damake daamini".
> Jaipur performances of MkM are rare. Various aprachalit
> Malhars are typically sung instead.
With the exception of Gaud Malhar. All Jaipurites
seem to sing it. In this context, mention ought to
be made of the excellent 3-volume Malhar Malika
by Kishori Amonkar. She has sung Gaud Malhar, Nat
Malhar, Adana Malhar, Soor Malhar, Meera Malhar
and Ananad Malhar. And of course, Kesarbai's
Gaud Malhar and Mallikarjun's Gaud Malhar and
Ramdasi Malhar renditions are legendary.
> The Vidyadhar Vyas performance is ok IMO; he is
> a very consistent performer, but not particularly a
> risk-taker.
True. But his intonational purity (reminiscent of
his father Narayanrao) and the potential behind the
(apparently) restrained performance make his
recording worth mentioning, IMO.
C
TANSEN8106
The best recording of Mian ki Malhar I have ever heard is by Malika-e- Mausiqui
Roshan Ara Begum and also a short recording of MKM by UStad Salamat Ali Khan
for Satyajit Ray's JAlsa Ghar.
Other excellent Mian ki Malhars which come to memory are by Ustads Fateh-Amanat
and of course Ustad Umeed Ali Khan. Sadly, none of the recordings are released
apart from the UStad Salamat Ali Khan recording.
Regards
Tansen8106
Ramesh Waghmare
>Stephan Claassen (f...@bul.fambi) wrote:
>: Does anyone know of good performances of Raga Miyan ki Malhar ?
>: I'd be very interested to know about them.
>
>Here's my opinion:
>
>Best vocal I have heard:
>
>Bhimsen Joshi from a 1960's LP.
I agree. MKM is one of his forte. In fact, it was his rendering
of MKM in Pune in early forties, which launched the phenomenal
career of Pt.Bhimsen. His guru Rambhau Sawai Gandharva was in
the audience and was deeply moved.
Ramesh Waghmare
Abhay P
immediately springs to mind is that of Kankana Bannerjee in her first LP with
HMV (though I must say that her rendition is just about average). I have heard
it sung live a couple of times as a drut cheez, and I am sure that I have
another recording too that I am trying to trace: will let you know!
Regards
Abhay
In article , war...@aol.com says...
>
>I wrote:
>
>>>The drut bandish is an
>>>unusual treatment of "Mohamad Shah Rangile," again
>>>in ektaal, with the sum on "gi."
>
>Abhay asks:
>
>>Why is the sum on the "gi" in "rangile" unusual?
>>In every rendition I have heard
>>of this drut khyal, it has been in ektaal with
>>the sum on the "gi". Is there any
>>other way it has been sung?
>
>Well, I found it unusual for a few reasons. First,
>I learned the same text as a vilambit khyal with
>the sum on "Shah" after a nice ornamented approach
>on "Mohamad;" I've heard it sung this way by others.
>So hearing the text as a drut khyal was a pleasing
>surprise. Second, the standard procedure for text
>setting in drut ektal is to simply start directly on
>sum. In this rendition, Bhimsen starts midway through
>the theka, which makes the mukhda immediately
>arresting (although rather at the cost of semantic
>values). But if you've heard others from outside
>Bhimsen's immediate sphere of influence sing it that
>way, then I retract my description of the bandish as
>unusual. Who did you hear? Any recordings?
>
>Warren
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Ajay P Nerurkar
: Bhimsen recorded MkM a long time ago on one side
: of an lp; I'm pretty sure the bada khyal was "Karim
: Nam Tero,"
WS,
How unusual is Bhimsen's placement of the sam on "naa" (of "naam")
rather than "te" (of "tero") ?
Ajay
WARVIJ
>the sam on "naa" (of "naam")
>rather than "te" (of "tero") ?
I think it is a canonical placement for Kirana-ites,
but my sample is inadequate for an authoritative analysis.
Cheers,
Warren
pinaki sengupta
it. It is in an LP "Echoes of Golden Voices". I would like to know how others in
this group like it.
Thank you.
-Pinaki.
Stephan Claassen <f...@bul.fambi> writes:
>Does anyone know of good performances of Raga Miyan ki Malhar ?
>I'd be very interested to know about them.
>Thank you !
TANSEN8106
I have also heard Khsb Nissar's Khan's Tarana in Mian ki Malhar and think that
it is superb. He was surely the master of the tarana.
Regards
Tansen8106
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