On Raga Simhendra Madhyama
Rajan P. Parrikar
The Carnatic rAga Simhendra Madhyama has been lying low in the
Hindustani paramparA for quite a few decades now. It has found
little favour among vocalists despite the fact that people such
as Vishnu Digambarji and Shankarrao Vyas were known to render it.
One hears the occasional instrumental (sitar and flute) rendition
nowadays but by and large it has been a back-bencher.
Simhendra Madhyama is a very popular Carnatic rAga, the flagship
rAga of the 57th melakartA bearing the same name, with the following
swara-set: S R g m(tivra) P d N.
There are several ways of looking at its scale from the Hindustani
standpoint. One may view it as a Kirvani with a tivra madhyam -
in its Hindustani adaptation this is true in more ways than just
the scalic angle. The rishab is dominant and has the role of
nyAsa bahutva.
Then, it forms a grAha bheda pair with the mAyamAlavagauLa (bhairav)
melakartA if its Sa is translated to the pancham. This feature may be
intelligently exploited to create a tirobhAva (momentary effect) of
Raga Kalingada within the Simhendra Madhyama framework by noting
that the rishab of Simhendra Madhyama is the "pancham" of the
transformed Kalingada.
The halt on the rishab is very pleasing. The pancham and the nishAd
are sometimes bypassed (the 'langhan alpatva' mode) in a sentence
of the kind: (P)m d S". If I correctly recall, the mukhDA of Ravi Shankar's
gat in jhaptAl begins this way - it has been eons since I last heard it
so I shall await confirmation or correction. And occasionally the nishAd
is skipped as in: P d S". A sample chalan is now offered:
S R G P m, g R, R g R, g P m P, P d S", N S" R", g" R" S" N d P,
R g m P m g R, g R S
It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
Madhyam scale. For a drive-by kind of effort, see R.D. Burman's
composition, the Asha-Kishore duet, "tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chaleiN,
chalti rahe zindagi..." - but remember that it is contaminated.
The redoubtable Vish Krishnan suggests Lata's "mujhpe ilzAm-e-bewafAie
hai..." from the movie "Yasmeen" composed by C. Ramachandra as another
example of a quasi-Simhendra Madhyama; it is hoped that Sir Vish will
think of more quasi- Simhendra Madhyama/Shanmukhapriya scale
compositions and possibly write a follow-up post.
Recommendations of representative Carnatic recordings and compositions
in Simhendra Madhyama are invited. Has M.S. Gopalakrishnan recorded in
this rAga? I have, thanks to a kind soul, a live recording of his
Shanmukhapriya etched in my mind and am not at all averse to subjecting
it to a similar treatment of Simhendra Madyama. It will be most interesting
to compare and contrast the master's treatment of the two. The last time
I attended a live violin concert it was couple of years ago in Berkeley
to see birthday boy VG Jogster. Jogmeister sawed a searing Jhinjhoti and
that too is scratched in my mind - kharrramm, khrrrmmm, kharrrrrrrrammmm.
The composition offered below is a dohA from the Ramcharitramanas of
Mr. Tulsidas. The joyous ocassion is apparently Shri Rama's coronation
ceremony. It is set to music by the peerless Acharya Vishnu Digambar
Paluskar, himself a great Rama-bhakta.
Warm regards,
r
*****
Raga: Simhendra Madhyama
Tala: Teental (addhA in madhya laya preferred)
Lyric: Tulsidas (dohA from rAmacharitramAnas)
Composer: Vishnu Digambar Paluskar
sunu khages tehi avasara Brahma Shiva muni brnda
chaDhi bimAn Aye sab sura dekhana sukh-kanda
Glossary:
khages = Garuda, the Lord's vAhan
avasara = occasion
brnda = assemblage
sura = gods
sukh-kanda = source of all joy (=Shri Rama)
Key:
(1) All shuddha notes in caps (M=shuddha madhyam, m=tivra madhyam)
(2) The " and ' following a note denotes its tAr-saptak and mandra-
saptak affiliation, respectively.
(3) The grace note is enclosed in parenthesis of the type () and it
operates on the note immediately following it.
Asthaie:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
R" S" N d P (P)m P d
su...nu kha..ge........sa te...hi
<-smooth->
- P d (d)R" S" - - - P - d - S" S" R" R"
. a....va...sa...ra.............. brahm.....mA.... shi..va mu...ni
Pd S"R" g" R" S" N d P
brn................................da
<----smooth---->
Antara:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
P P (P)m P - P P -
cha..Dhi bi...mA........na Aa....
m g R (R)g (S)R - S - R R g - (P)m P (N)d S"
ye.... sa...ba................... su...ra de........kha..na su...kha
<smooth> <--smooth-->
Pd S"R" g" R" S" N d P
kan................................da
<----smooth---->
*****
Geeta Iyer
1) Rama Rama Guna Seema - I learnt this one several years ago and
vaguely remember hearing MS sing this. I am sure there are other
recordings.
2) Ninne Nammiti Nayya Sri Rama - I have heard KVN sing this
Sorry, don't remember who the composers are.
I was just curious, was that a Hindustani recording of MSG? I have a
CD that says carnatic classical but then the recording is Hindustani!
(it is not simmhendra madhyamam)
Regards,
geeta
Rms2020
On compositions in Simmhendra Madhyamam - M.S and the Bombay Sisters also sing
Ninne Nammiti Nayya. This is a composition of Mysore Vaasudevaachaar. A Tamil
composition that I have also learned is Unnay Allaal vaerae Gathi - by
Kavikunjara Bharathi.
Another composition - Neethu CharaNamulae - I do not recollect for sure who the
composer is - if memory serves me right, it is Swati Thirunaal.
Meena Shanker
Rajan P. Parrikar
I had written -
>It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
>Madhyam scale. For a drive-by kind of effort, see R.D. Burman's
>composition, the Asha-Kishore duet, "tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chaleiN,
>chalti rahe zindagi..." - but remember that it is contaminated.
A minor correction. The composer is Sapan Chakravarty, who was
RD Burman's assistant.
r
Pavithra Ramamurthy
composition in Simhendra Madhyamam.
Regards,
Pavithra.
Rajan P. Parrikar wrote:
> I had written -
>
> >It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
> >Madhyam scale. For a drive-by kind of effort, see R.D. Burman's
> >composition, the Asha-Kishore duet, "tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chaleiN,
> >chalti rahe zindagi..." - but remember that it is contaminated.
>
> A minor correction. The composer is Sapan Chakravarty, who was
> RD Burman's assistant.
>
> r
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parr...@ferrari.colorado.edu (Rajan P. Parrikar) wrote:
> It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
> Madhyam scale. For a drive-by kind of effort, see R.D. Burman's
> composition, the Asha-Kishore duet, "tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chaleiN,
> chalti rahe zindagi..." - but remember that it is contaminated.
> The redoubtable Vish Krishnan suggests Lata's "mujhpe ilzAm-e-bewafAie
> hai..." from the movie "Yasmeen" composed by C. Ramachandra as another
> example of a quasi-Simhendra Madhyama; it is hoped that Sir Vish will
> think of more quasi- Simhendra Madhyama/Shanmukhapriya scale
> compositions and possibly write a follow-up post.
>
> Recommendations of representative Carnatic recordings and compositions
> in Simhendra Madhyama are invited. Has M.S. Gopalakrishnan recorded in
In the Tamil movie "Marahatham(50s)" S.M.Subbiah Naidu has
used Simhendra Madhyama in the really sweet romantic duet
"EnadhuLLam IndrallavO". I'm sure Ilaya Raja has done
several numbers based on this rAgam as well.
Moorthy.
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UVR
>
>Hi!
>
>Another composition - Neethu CharaNamulae - I do not recollect for sure who the
>composer is - if memory serves me right, it is Swati Thirunaal.
>
>Meena Shanker
If you're talking about 'needu charaNamulE nirata-nammina vaaDanu-rA' in
misra chaapu taaLam in simhEndra-madhayamam, I think the composer is
Patnam Subramania Aiyer.
--
UVR.
santhanam balaji
I have a GREAT RTP by Mandolin Srinivas & Flute Ramani Jugalbandhi
recorded live at Cleveland Thiagaraja Aradhana (probably some 3 or 4
years back). The combo puts up an excellent performance together. Always
I keep wondering which one is sweeter, Mandolin or Flute, when I listen
to them play alternately with every piece outplaying the previous one. I don't
understand any of the technicalities in it but it is so pleasant to hear.
For some unknown reason I like listening to it particularly on a cloudy day
in the car.
Regards,
Balaji
santhanam balaji
Oops, I forgot to add that it is in Simendra Madhyamam.
Regards,
S.Balaji
santhanam balaji (bsan...@cassatt.csc.vill.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
kishore...@rocketmail.com
WRONG !!!! It's a composition of Thyagaraja.
In article <70854k$b...@pdrn.zippo.com>,
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Murali Vemulapati
Varadachari). It seems he deliberately used the Tyagaraja mudra hoping
it would get more popularity :)
murali
Ranganath Sridharan
>
> Recommendations of representative Carnatic recordings and compositions
> in Simhendra Madhyama are invited.
Some of the renderings of Simhendra Madhyama raga which has had me
(and quite a few around me) spellbound are from these artistes:
Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar
K.V.Narayana swamy (Former's disciple)
M.S.Subbulakshmi
Lalgudi G. Jayaraman
Maharajapuram Santhanam
The previous generation recognised "Ninne Nammithinayya" as one of
Ariyakkudi's masterpieces. To Ariyakkudi should go the credit for
popularising this krithi. His great disciple KVN has imbibed the
same honour. The krithi is also one of M.S's greats.
KVN's fantastic "Ninne Nammithi" is in possession by AIR Bangalore.
If someone has that recording, or the rendering of that krithi by
KVN in one of the Rama Seva Mandali concerts, also at Bangalore,
it's one of the best SimhendraMadhyamam one can find.
Pallavi cassettes (a division of AVM audio) has released a full
cassette of Ragam Thanam Pallavi in Simhendra Madhyamam, by Lalgudi
G. Jayaraman. It's a treat to the ears and soul!.
I've also been enthralled by Maharajapuram Santhanam's "Raama
Raama Gunaseema" (Swathi Thirunal composition?). You can find it
in one of his Music Academy concerts - 1991 I think.
M.S.Subbulakshmi's Simhendra Madhyamam is also outstanding but
I'm not aware of the recorded versions.
regards,
Ranga
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Some compositions in Simhendra Madhyamam:
Natajanaparipaalayamaam - Roopakam - K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar(wrongly
credited to Thyagaraaja)
Needucharanamule - Mishra Chaapu - K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar (wrongly
credited to Thyagaraaja)
Kaamakshi - Roopakam - Muthuswamy Dikshitar
Ninne Nammiti - Mishra Chaapu - Mysore Vaasudevaachaarya
Raama Raama Gunaseema - Adi - Swaati Tirunaal
Taayaagi Tandayumaai - Khanda Chaapu - Taazhumaanavar
Asainaadum Mayil - Adi - Oothukaadu Venkatasubbaiyer
Paamarajana Paalini - Roopakam - Muthuswamy Dikshitar
Ihaparam - Adi - Paapanaasam Sivan
Also, MLV used to sing Yellaam Inbamayam in this raaga. Wonder who is
the composer of this one? I guess she sang it in a movie first!!
Simhendra Madhyamam is a very popular raaga for Raagam Taanam Pallavis
too!!
sure...@hotmail.com
Shankar Krish
M S Gopalakrishnan plays shanmukapriya very often. I would say that it is
his favorite when it comes to Ragam tanam Pallavi's. I have heard at least
three different concerts in which he has played shanmukapriya. Coming to
simhendra madyamam, I have heard him play this rag in a radio concert,
which I would term very mediocre; perhaps an off day, because the entire
concert was much below his par.
Lalgudi and Ramani have played simhendra madyamam quite a while ago at New
York I believe. That is an excellent exposition of the rag. The other one
mentioned with Ramani and Mandolin Srinivas brings back very little in me;
it was mostly noise, personally speaking.
shankar
Rajan P. Parrikar <parr...@ferrari.colorado.edu> wrote in article
<706nbi$8...@drn.newsguy.com>...
> Namashkar.
>
> <snip >.
VAtreya
'rama rama guna seema' song
Vasudevan S Atreya
ravi chandra
where she has rendered "Raama Raama gunaseema". With aalaapana,
neraval and kalpana swarams, it is a real treat to the ears.
Regards
Ravi
vishkr...@hotmail.com
>
> The Carnatic rAga Simhendra Madhyama has been lying low in the
> Hindustani paramparA for quite a few decades now. It has found
> little favour among vocalists despite the fact that people such
> as Vishnu Digambarji and Shankarrao Vyas were known to render it.
> One hears the occasional instrumental (sitar and flute) rendition
> nowadays but by and large it has been a back-bencher.
> It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
> Madhyam scale.
It is indeed. I suspect the raaga requires some commitment. Given
the fickle attention span of light-music composers (at least for Hindi
movies), the closest they seem to ever get to this scale is a minor
movement with the occasional F-sharp zing. OP Nayyar automatically
comes to mind (speaking of F-sharp, and fickle).
He has a few minor progressions with the teevra madhyam thrown in
to complete the canonical OP effect. But his switch back and
forth between the komal and shuudh ga, ni and dha makes it next to
impossible to pin him down to any raaga for any decent-sized phrase.
MANGU has an Asha solo ("man moray gaa jhoom ke"). It makes all
the right Simhendra Madhyama sounds, for the first 10 notes or so.
That's it.
vish
Amit Chatterjee
> I had written -
>
> >It is hard to find a 'light' composition employing a pure Simhendra
> >Madhyam scale. For a drive-by kind of effort, see R.D. Burman's
> >composition, the Asha-Kishore duet, "tum bhi chalo, hum bhi chaleiN,
> >chalti rahe zindagi..." - but remember that it is contaminated.
>
> A minor correction. The composer is Sapan Chakravarty, who was
> RD Burman's assistant.
>
> r
Rabindranath Tagore composed a beautiful Bengali "tappa" in Simhendra
Madhyam. It is called "Baaje Koruno Sure". Noted Rabindra Sangeet
artist, Kanika Banerjee has recorded this song. The same song can be
heard in Satyajit Ray's movie "Teen Kanya" (by a different artist the
name of whom I cannot recall).
(I put the tappa word on quote because, the tappas composed by Tagore,
although referred to as tappas, are quite different from the traditional
Shore Miyan style. They are normally played without any percussion
accompaniment like aalaps. I read somewhere that this style of tappa has
been influenced more by Karnatic music more than the traditional tappa
style.)
Regards,
Amit
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S Suresh
> In the Tamil movie "Marahatham(50s)" S.M.Subbiah Naidu has
> used Simhendra Madhyama in the really sweet romantic duet
> "EnadhuLLam IndrallavO". I'm sure Ilaya Raja has done
> several numbers based on this rAgam as well.
> Moorthy.
Illayaraja does have a few Simhendra Madhyamam to his credit. I
remember on in "Panner Pushpangal" by Uma Ramanan. Think it goes
as "Ananda Ragam". The other one is by Chitra but I forgot the
name of the film. It is esentially a dance song and a very good
Simhendra Madhyamam. Does it start as "Katrodu Kuzhalin"?
S Suresh
>Rajan P. Parrikar wrote:
>>
>> Recommendations of representative Carnatic recordings and compositions
>> in Simhendra Madhyama are invited.
> M.S.Subbulakshmi's Simhendra Madhyamam is also outstanding but
>I'm not aware of the recorded versions.
In a recently released tape, Gems (HMV), MS can be heard singing
a Simhendra Madhyamam kriti. This is MS in her vintage voice and
a real treat to the ears.
Regards,
S.Suresh
g-r...@usa.net
sure...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <hnvsogo...@dlsun327.us.oracle.com>,
> Murali Vemulapati <mvem...@dlsun327.us.oracle.com> wrote:
> > Actually the composer is supposed to be Srinivasa Iyengar (brother of Tiger
> > Varadachari). It seems he deliberately used the Tyagaraja mudra hoping
> > it would get more popularity :)
> >
> > murali
> >
>
> Do you mean Poochi :-) ?
There is - if I am not mistaken - a chap known as Ramanathapuram Srinivasa
Iyengar..
Is he the same as Poochi?
Are all these chaps the same Srinivasa Iyengar or are they different?
And who is the chap who has composed Needu Charana Mule - the chap with only
the initials?
Thanks
Ramakrishnan
kishore...@rocketmail.com
I can recall two more compositions in Simhendra Madhyamam :
1. 'Maamava Maaye - Shyaamala Kaaye' by BaalaMurali. The Anupallavi has the
Raaga Mudrika : "Hemambaradhari - He Janani - Simhendra Madhyame - Meru
Nilaye". There is also a brief chittaswaram at the end. This is a neat
composition even though Balamurali has composed far better compositions in
terms of both lyric and Music.
2. "Jaya Jaya Jaya Janani" -- I am not sure who the composer is. This
composition has got two charanas and the tricky part is that, the Pallavi,
Anupallavi and the first Charanam are in pure Samskritam. The second charanam
is in Telugu. This suggests that may be, the second charanam was added later
by somebody else. this is a nice composition of lighter mood.
-- Kishore.
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Rama
pointed out that this was a composition by K V Srinivasa Iyengar and was
wrongly attributed by many to Tyagaraja.
Rama
__________________________________________________________________________________
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 kishore...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> WRONG !!!! It's a composition of Thyagaraja.
>
>
> In article <70854k$b...@pdrn.zippo.com>,
> UVR <u...@usa.net> wrote:
> > Meena Shanker wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi!
> > >
> > >Another composition - Neethu CharaNamulae - I do not recollect for sure who
> the
> > >composer is - if memory serves me right, it is Swati Thirunaal.
> > >
> > >Meena Shanker
> >
> > If you're talking about 'needu charaNamulE nirata-nammina vaaDanu-rA' in
> > misra chaapu taaLam in simhEndra-madhayamam, I think the composer is
> > Patnam Subramania Aiyer.
> >
> > --
> > UVR.
> >
>
g-r...@usa.net
Neelachala Natham Bhajeham.
Its a Dikshitar Kriti
Thanks
Ramakrishnan
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sank...@my-dejanews.com
g-r...@usa.net wrote:
> In article <708ri8$d80$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> sure...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > In article <hnvsogo...@dlsun327.us.oracle.com>,
> > Murali Vemulapati <mvem...@dlsun327.us.oracle.com> wrote:
> > > Actually the composer is supposed to be Srinivasa Iyengar (brother of Tiger
> > > Varadachari). It seems he deliberately used the Tyagaraja mudra hoping
> > > it would get more popularity :)
> > >
> > > murali
> > >
> >
> > Do you mean Poochi :-) ?
>
> There is - if I am not mistaken - a chap known as Ramanathapuram Srinivasa
> Iyengar..
> Is he the same as Poochi?
> Are all these chaps the same Srinivasa Iyengar or are they different?
>
> And who is the chap who has composed Needu Charana Mule - the chap with only
> the initials?
>
> Thanks
> Ramakrishnan
>
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The Srinivasa Iyengar we are talking about is K.V.Srinivasa Iyengar and not
Ramnad Srinivasa Iyengar alias Poochi Srinivasa Iyengar. Thanks Sowmya
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RSriram
here is one more
response.Niducharanamule,Simhendramadhyamam,Krithi,Adi,Thyagaraja.
>>Another composition - Neethu CharaNamulae - I do not recollect for sure who
>the
>>composer is - if memory serves me right, it is Swati Thirunaal.
RSriram
>Another composition - Neethu CharaNamulae - I do not recollect for sure who
>the
>composer is - if memory serves me right, it is Swati Thirunaal.
>
ChristianAMR
luzchurch
> Hindst. bandish by Srivani Jade ( Pt Ramashreya )
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StFuwrF660Q
But no recording by MSG.
ChristianAMR
Thanks
anjana...@gmail.com
Here are a few:
* Ravi Shankar on the Sitar: https://youtu.be/1XwbXsXB_68
* Amjad Ali Khan on Sarod: https://youtu.be/EGLQvPGHh54
* Sitar/Sarod duet: https://youtu.be/Q-tE1VAcwBA
* Hindustani/Carnatic jugalbandi with Sarod/Violin: https://youtu.be/xSUzqVr3v8Y