Qawwal-ke-bacche
John Napier
I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
term?
Thanks in advance
John Napier
Rajan P. Parrikar
>
>Hi
> I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
>reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
>term?
You probably mean the Qawwal Bachhe. This gaharAnA traces its
origins to the Chisti sufi order and legend has it that the
original "bachhe" were two child singers named Sawant and
Boola in the court of one of the 13th C Delhi sultans (Altamash?).
In the early 18th C the big name was Bade Mohammad Khan, from
whom the Gwalior pioneers Haddu and Hassu Khan received tAleem.
Sadiq Ali Khan, the famed thumri expert in Wajid Ali Shah's
court in Lucknow, came from this gharAnA. Also, Sadiq Ali's
student, the great harmonium maestro Bhaiya Ganpatrao, played
thumris and other Qawwal Bacche repertoire on the instrument.
On the EMI Pakistan release one Qawwal Bachhe kHayAl singer
is featured (I forget his name).
Warm regards,
r
Rajan P. Parrikar
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>John Napier wrote:
>>
>>Hi
>> I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
>>reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
>>term?
>
>You probably mean the Qawwal Bachhe. This gaharAnA traces its
>origins to the Chisti sufi order and legend has it that the
>original "bachhe" were two child singers named Sawant and
>Boola in the court of one of the 13th C Delhi sultans (Altamash?).
>
>In the early 18th C the big name was Bade Mohammad Khan, from
Ooops, I meant the early 1800s.
Pierre Mons
You could listen to the CD : Me'raj Nizami Qawwal , Qawwal Bacche ( MAKAR
MAKCD018) from the always excellent french label MAKAR .
This singer is in charge of the soufi qawwali singing in Hazrat Nizâmudin
Awliya Dargah in Delhi. Qawwal Bacche means original qawwal.
Pierre MONS
"Rajan P. Parrikar" a écrit :
> John Napier wrote:
> >
> >Hi
> > I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
> >reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
> >term?
>
> You probably mean the Qawwal Bachhe. This gaharAnA traces its
> origins to the Chisti sufi order and legend has it that the
> original "bachhe" were two child singers named Sawant and
> Boola in the court of one of the 13th C Delhi sultans (Altamash?).
>
> In the early 18th C the big name was Bade Mohammad Khan, from
Frederic
<J.Na...@unsw.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi
> I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
> reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
> term?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> John Napier
The qawwal bacche (s) are the sons of the original Qawwal
here is the official story
told to me by the khalif of the gharana Mera'j Nizami Qawwal
"Mian Samat was a child born Mute and deaf
he came to Hazrat Nizaamuddin the pir of the chisti sufi
the pir placed a drop of his saliva on the lips of the child :
Mian Samat could after speak and hear
Hazrat Nizaamuddin said to his disciple Amir Kushro :
"give this child musical education".
The musical patrimony of Amir Kushro was given to him and Qawwali
taught to him.
When Samat was a man, Nizaamudin made him sing in the Darbar i Awliya
the court of the Saints.
He became qawwal of Nizaamuddin
and his children were called "Qawwal Bacche", Descendants of the first Qawwal
Warmest regards to all
Frederic
Discography of the Qawwal Bacche
QAWWALI
MAKCD018 The lyrical tradition of qawwali 1
Me'raj Nizami Qawwal - Khalif of the Qawwal Bacche
142' 10" (double CD) DDD, New release, 1995
The gran-grand son of Tanras Khan direct heirs of
the inventors of qawwali exposes the variations of
his enormous stock of compositions (30 titles).
MAKAR records MAKCD026 1996
http://makar-records.com
raga Bhairavi (double cd with 16 other excellent musicians of the collection)
KHYAL
MAKCD003 The lyrical tradition of khyal 1
Ustad Iqbal Ahmad Khan - Delhi gharana
70' 04" DDD, New release, 1994
raga Komal rishab Asavari, raga Mian ki Todi
The Khalifa of the Delhi gharana with dilruba and tabla
MAKCD037 - Ustad Nasiruddin Saami - Vocal Khyal 10 - Delhi gharana - 71'
04² DDD - raga Multani, Adana.
Ustad Nasiruddin Saami is the great singer of the Delhi Gharana in
Pakistan. His vast knowlegde includes the total repertory of his School,
starting from Amir Kusro (XIVth century) to present days poets.
The purity of his style, the precision of his notes are exceptional.
A great master among Karachi musicians, he performs frequently in private
concerts for connoisseurs.
GHAZAL
MAKCD009 The lyrical tradition of ghazal 1
Indira Misra - 69' New release, 1995, DDD
The most moving voice sings classical Ghazals with
dilruba and tabla in ragas Anandi, Patmanjari,
Maru Behag, Behag, Desh, Shankara, Yaman Kalyan.
All these CDs are available at
http://makar-records.com
Veena Nayak
fred...@makar-records.com says...
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>In article <80nkkl$458$1...@mirv.unsw.edu.au>, John Napier
><J.Na...@unsw.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I have come across the term "qawwal-ke-bacche" a few times whilst
>> reading. Can anybody offer any information on this (to me) enigmatic
>> term?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> John Napier
>
>The qawwal bacche (s) are the sons of the original Qawwal
>here is the official story
>told to me by the khalif of the gharana Mera'j Nizami Qawwal
>
The following is a little talk given by
Ustad Aslam Hussain Khan at the workshop
on "Bandish" held at the Sangeet Research
Academy in 1997. He was one of the panelists
in the session on Bandish in semi- and light
classical music. Reproduced with nobody's
permission.
Veena
ps: Is it true, as the speaker claims, that
khyal singing started with the Qwual-Bacche?
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The history of qwuali is 800-850 years old.
It started in Rajasthan, with Hazrat Khwaja
Moinnuddin Chisti Rahimatulla Ali. It was
performed in private as well as in his
courtyard for the enjoyment of devotees.
There had been two singers of great repute
along with him. One was Mian Nigahi and the
other, Mian Dargahi. Initially these songs
were sung to the accompaniment of "daf" and
the text was written in Arabian or Persian
language. These were composed in praise of
"Allah" and this tradition has continued to
this day. After the death of Khwaja Moinuddin
Chisti, Mian Nigahi and Mian Dargahi moved
to Delhi to Khwaja Qutubuddin Bakhtiyar Kake
Rahimtulla Ali. Later after the death of
Mian Nigahi, Miyan Dargahi moved to Pakpattan,
Lahore to be with Baba Farid, a famous Sufi
saint. Not much is known about his descendants.
Kaul has given rise to qwuali. The lexical
meaning of Kaul is "promise". A Qwuali starts
with the kaul "Mankunto Maula". Hazrat Amir
Khusro had started his Qwuali with this kaul
and added the syllables of Tarana to it.
Qwuali is a devotional form which started
with the Wali and the Sufi saints. These
songs are sung in a special manner and have
their own stylistic individuality. This form
gained popularity in the 13th century and
Hazrat Nizamudin Auliya of Delhi was responsible
for this. When blessed by Hazrat Nizamudin
Auliya, a dumb child spontaneously burst
forth in a song. It is believed that at the
request of the Venerable Hazrat, Amir Khusro
taught this child the kaul "Mankunto Maula",
set in raga Yaman Kalyan. The raga was named
after the city Yaman by Hazarat Nizamudin.
This child was given the name of Hussain
and with him and the other sons of Amir
Khusro starts the school of "Qwual-bacche",
in Qwual singing. It is further accepted that
the tradition of 'Khayal Singing' started
with the "Qwual-Bacche". To this day all the
Qwuali singers congregate at the dargah of
Hazarat Nizamuddin Auliya on the Basant
Panchami day to pay their respects by
singing Qwualis.
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ChristianAMR
On the other hand in other sources the country Yemen is being mentioned ,
A “ask” Kakirde
> Can´t find any city named Yaman . Certainly not at Google maps . Some web research results seem ambiguous .
>
> On the other hand in other sources the country Yemen is being mentioned ,
ChristianAMR
> > Can´t find any city named Yaman . Certainly not at Google maps . Some web research results seem ambiguous .
> >
> > On the other hand in other sources the country Yemen is being mentioned ,
> I've read somewhere that according to legend, Amir Khusro composed Yaman based off of a melody that a Yemeni Merchant hummed - or something along those lines.
What I know is that Kalyan thaat does not exist in the Arabic Maqam system , but it does in the Turkish Makam system ( = Pencgah )