Niroshta ragas-some useful info
V. Chandramouli
his consent I am posting his note verbatim since it might be of interest
to a few others.
--Chandramouli
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>> Putrika. There is a composition of Muthiyya Bagavathar "Raja Raja Radhike -
Raja Kale Sharadhe". Since Ma and Pa are absent (and no other swaras require
the use of the lips in their pronounciation ) this raga is also called
"Niroshtya" by some people. In reality, "Niroshta" ragas refer to all the
ragas which do not have "ohshtya" swaras. Interestingly, the song I mentioned
earlier is also "Niroshtya". All the 32 ragas with arohanam/ avarohanam
S R G D N S have nice names - I can't recollect them now - I am sure you
can find it in any raga kosha.
Hope this helps.
Shiva
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ps (Chandramouli): I suppose he means 36 ragas and not 32.
WARVIJ
NIROSHTA
Niroshta means having no lips. Persons who are unable to use their
lips cannot utter the letters Ma and Pa. A Niroshta raga is one in which
swaras Ma and Pa are both omitted. This is against the rules regarding
construction of ragas, but it is meant for the convenience of the
lipless.
(WS note: I just *love* that phrase "meant for the convenience of the
lipless," don't you? I'm sure Subbha Rao had a quiet chuckle at the time)
He goes on to cite the Hindustani raga Adbhut Kalyan (S R G D N S, S N
D G R S -- all shuddha swaras) as an example. I have one recording
of Fariduddin Dagar singing this raga. Any others?
Warren Senders
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Lvenkat
vcha...@dip.eecs.umich.edu (V. Chandramouli) writes:
<< I got the following email message from Mr. Shivakumar Shastry.
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<< Putrika. There is a composition of Muthiyya Bagavathar
<<"Raja Raja Radhike - Raja Kale Sharadhe". Since Ma and Pa are absent
<<(and no other swaras require the use of the lips in their
<< pronounciation ) this raga is also called
<< "Niroshtya" by some people.
One additional point about muttayya bhAgavatar's composition "rAja rAja
rAdhitE": This composition not only avoids svarAs ma and pa, being in the
rAga nirOSTa, it also avoids all the akSrAs pa, pha, ba, bha and ma in
sAhityam. Obviously in the ciTTasvaram pa and ma are avoided. Therefore in
singing this composition one never has to close the lips. My take on this
not that it is for the "lipless"; rather I think the implication is that -
while I sing in praise of you I shall not close my mouth!
C. M. Venkatachalam
ven...@msi.com
Vidya Lakshmi
Hello!
I want the name of the ragam for the following songs
1. Govinda ninna - purandaradasar
2. Deera Sameera - Jeyadeva Ashtapathi
3. Kannan thiruvadi - Bharathiar
sung by Unnikrishnan, titled "Melodious moods of Unnikrishnan".
Thanks in advance,
vidya
Puduhai Sreeram
>
> Hello!
>
> I want the name of the ragam for the following songs
>
> 1. Govinda ninna - purandaradasar
Janasamodini
> 2. Deera Sameera - Jeyadeva Ashtapathi
Yaman Kalyan
> 3. Kannan thiruvadi - Bharathiar
>
> sung by Unnikrishnan, titled "Melodious moods of Unnikrishnan".
>
I dont have Unni's cassette with me. But I do have the rendition of these
songs by some other artiste.
--
sreeram
David Nelson
> > 3. Kannan thiruvadi - Bharathiar
> >
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