ArohaNam/AvarohaNam of Hamsavinodhini

Radhika Sivaramakrishna

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Mar 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/26/96

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I am posting this for Mr Mohan Narayanan, who wasnt sure how to post this on the
net.

Radhika
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My son Prithvi Mohan ( age 10) wants to know the arohanam/ avarohanam of
Hamsavinodhini. My wife could not find it in the music books we have. May be
you could help.

thanks.
Mohan Narayanan.

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Ms Radhika Sivaramakrishna
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Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering,
University of Manitoba,
Winnipeg, Manitoba
Canada R3T 5V6
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Anand Balachandran

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Mar 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/27/96

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I'm not exactly sure about the swara sequence though
I remember that Hamsavinodini is a "panchama varja"
janyam of Dheera Shankarabharanam(the 29th mela).
Key notes of this ragam are ri ga ma.

An excellent Dasar krithi is Charanam Bhava Karunaamai Guru Dheena
Dhayalo! popularized by MLV and now by Sudha Raghunathan. The ragam
is quite similar to the ragam Ravichandrika though a genius could
discern the difference.

The Arohanam-Avarohanam should be,
sa-chathushruthi ri-anthara ga-shudda ma-chathushruthi da-kakali ni---
sa-ni-da-ma-ga-ri-sa.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

We could even introduce such rare ragama in "raga of the week" list.

--Anand.

> Date: 26 MAR 1996 16:33:25 GMT
> From: Radhika Sivaramakrishna <rad...@cc.umanitoba.ca>
> Newgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
> Subject: ArohaNam/AvarohaNam of Hamsavinodhini

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Venkat Devarajan

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Mar 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/28/96

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In article
<Pine.SUN.3.91.960327...@namaste.cc.columbia.edu
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Anand Balachandran <ab...@columbia.edu> writes:

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> The Arohanam-Avarohanam should be,
> sa-chathushruthi ri-anthara ga-shudda ma-chathushruthi da-kakali ni---
> sa-ni-da-ma-ga-ri-sa.

I believe SN-DND-MGRS is preferred over SNDMGRS

Venkat Devarajan
817-272-3485
Dept. of Electrical Engineering
The University of Texas at Arlington

Raghunath K. Rao

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Apr 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/1/96

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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960327...@namaste.cc.columbia.edu>,
Anand Balachandran <ab...@columbia.edu> wrote:

>I'm not exactly sure about the swara sequence though
>I remember that Hamsavinodini is a "panchama varja"
>janyam of Dheera Shankarabharanam(the 29th mela).
>Key notes of this ragam are ri ga ma.
>

>The ragam
>is quite similar to the ragam Ravichandrika though a genius could
>discern the difference.

Not that I dislike the idea of being a genius :^), but IMHO I think the
difference is easily discerned. I haven't heard Hamsavinodini rendered
by any expert, but based on Anand's description, I tried it out, and there
is quite a difference between it and Ravichandrika. I learnt
"Niravadisuka.." in Ravichandrika, which has Kaishiki Nishadha, rather
than Kakali.

BTW, is the aarohana vakra in Ravichandrika? "m d s ..." is frequently used.
On the other hand "m n d m g ...", and "m n d s ..." are also used
in the chitta swara of Niravadisuka. Hmmm. Will check my boooks.

And, I second Anand's suggestion regarding rare ragas. A thread on that
could be quite interesting. Maybe there was one before that I missed?

Cheers,

Raghu
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