AIR Vande Mataram composed by M.Krishnarao?
Ajay Nerurkar
herculean effort to get it accepted as the national anthem of India. But the
possibility that the tune played by AIR might also be his is suggested by
this line in a profile of M. Krishnarao in the Marathi book "Swarasauhaarda"
by the usually reliable Prabhakar Jathaar.
"'vande maataram'chi prachalit lokapriya CHaal maastaraanchiCH aahe"
(The prevalent, popular tune of Vande Mataram is M. Krishnarao's)
He doesn't say anything more that might remove all doubt.
Ajay
naniwadekar
Ajay Nerurkar <ajayne...@yahoo1729.com> wrote -
I will forward this message to Milind Sabnis, who has written a book
on Vande Mataram in Marathi. The book is available in Hindi and
English also.
I think the tune is unlikely to be Master Krishnarao's because Sabnis,
Chandvankar and SIRC folks are in the thick of Master Krishnarao
and Prabhakar Jathar territory. Since Sabnis included Ravi Shankar
and Jnan Babu Ghosh among the likely composers and did not
mention 'maastar', I am quite confident he must have explored that
angle before ruling Master out. If I hear anything to the contrary,
I will post it here.
I have tried to tap some sources to find Vijay Raghav Rao's contact
details but no luck so far. If anybody can help, please get in touch
with me. He might know who had composed the popular tune
of Vande Mataram.
- dn
Surjit Singh
http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000815/ien15046.html
the AIR tune was by Ravi Shankar.
naniwadekar wrote:
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/
Surajit A. Bose
Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> According to Menaka Jayasankar of Indian Express,
>
> http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000815/ien15046.html
>
> the AIR tune was by Ravi Shankar.
>
She is wrong about one thing. The Anand Math rendition does not have all
six verses of the song. It has only two verses.
-s
Rajan P. Parrikar
>According to Menaka Jayasankar of Indian Express,
>
>http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000815/ien15046.html
>
>the AIR tune was by Ravi Shankar.
I can confirm that the tune in Raga Des played
every morning on AIR was not composed by Ravi Shankar.
Source: the man himself.
Warm regards,
r
naniwadekar
Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote -
>
> According to Menaka Jayasankar of Indian Express,
>
> http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000815/ien15046.html
>
> the AIR tune was by Ravi Shankar.
>
I had started a thread (in the not too distant past) to try to find
out who had composed the AIR tune for Vande Mataram. Ajay
Nerurkar had made a post and produced some data which
suggests that the tune was not composed by Ravi Shankar.
That time RS was in Europe and I had requested a friend, who
has interacted with him before, to contact him when possible
about this topic. After that, the issue was kind of relegated but it
has not been forgotten. It would be great if we can hear direct
from RS about it.
I had tried, an year or two ago, to contact Jnan Babu's (foster) son
through a mutual friend. I have forgotten the exact details but I think
the friend did talk to the son and I came away with the impression
that most probably the late Jnan Babu did not compose it.
Pannalal Ghosh's name was also mentioned as a potential
candidate and I had requested a friend to ask Anil Biswas
about it. I haven't got in touch with this friend after that.
As already indicated, Vijay Raghav Rao (the flute player), who has
settled in the US, is also a potential source of infomation. But I
have not been able to trace him.
Obiter Dicta :
One sentence in the Indian Express URL quoted above makes
one's heart sink.
"Later, Ravi Shankar created the compact one-stanza version for
All India Radio, and Lata Mangeshkar gave it voice in the film
Anandmath." For fuck's sake, can't that sentence be better
constructed? Lata gave voice to 'it' in Anandmath, it being Hemant
Kumar's tune. Lata did not sing Ravi Shankar's compact version
in the same film and the sentence comes dangerously close to
suggesting that she did.
I do have some comments to make about A R Rahman's Vande
Mataram but since I have sworn that I won't use bad words for
the whole of this month and intend to carry out my honest intentions,
I am postponing my verdict to a later date. Stay tuned.
- dn
naniwadekar
Here is the Vande Mataram discography. It was forwarded to me
by Suresh Chandvankar last month. I had been planning to post
it for some time. If it is felt that it could have been posted with
better formatting, would somekindbody take pains to format it
and then repost it in the same thread now or maybe even a bit later.
- dn
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'Bande Mataram' on " Dhwani Mudrika " [Gramophone Records and cassettes]
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Note - This list could still be incomplete and readers are requested to send
additional information.
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Sr.No. / Company, Label / Record Number (year) / singers and other details
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1] Nicole Records / C 465 (c.1905) / Narain Chandra Mukherjee
2] Nicole Records / C 436 (c.1907) / Narain Chandra Mukherjee
3] H.Bose's Cylinder Record / 250 (c.1906) / Rabindra Nath Tagore (Concert
size)
4] H.Bose's Cylinder Record / s 250 (C.1906) / Sevak Sampradaya (Standard
size)
5] Pathe / H.Bose's double sided vertical cut Record / 3511 (C.1908) /
Rabindra Nath Tagore
6] Pathe / H.Bose's double sided vertical cut Record / 3512 (C.1908) / Sevak
Sampradaya
7] H.Bose's Record / Pathe / 36-250 (C.1908) / Rabindra Nath Tagore
(Standard size record - 250 ml.)
8] H.Bose's Record / Pathe / 36-350 (C.1908) / Rabindra Nath Tagore (Concert
size record - 150 ml)
9] Gramophone Monarch Record (12") / 012112 (1906) / R.N.Bose
10] Gramophone Concert Record (10") / 5 - 12638 (1906) / Narain Chandra
Mukherjee
11] Gramophone Concert Record (10") / 5 - 12639 (1906) / Narain Chandra
Mukherjee
12] National Grand Record / 20290 / Babu Surendranath Banerjee
13] Beka Grand Record / 21125 (1908) / Babu Hem chandra Sen
14] National record / 462 / 541 (1907) / Narain Chandra Mukherjee
15] Odeon Record (10 3/4") / 94131 (1911) / Satya Bhushan Gupta
16] Viel-O-Phone Record / T 6003 (1912) / Desh Dass
16A] Viel-O-Phone Record / VR 1567 [1073-74] Raga Desh - complete song in
two parts.
17] Phon-O-Phone Record / G 438 / 1029 (C.1910) / Savlaram Boa, Mumbai /
sung in Raga Kalingada.
18] Binapani Record / Just newspaper advt.(1908) only. Actual record not
seen.
19] H.M.V / P 5182 (C.1920) / Harendra Nath Dutt
20] Hindustan Record / H 570 (C.1940) / Prova Roy, Jay Dass, Vijaya Devi,
Dhiren Gupta, Haripada Chatterjee. - specially trained by Dr.Rabindranath
Tagore. Musical Direction by Sj. Haripada Chatterjee.
21] Megaphone Record Company / J.N.G. 5224 (C.1935) / Bhabani Charan Dass -
in two parts - Matrix numbers - DMC 8661/8662.
22] H.M.V / N 6944 (C.1950) Matrix number - OMC 8468 / Matruesvak Dal -
Music by Kamal das Gupta
23] Anand Bazaar, Hindustan Record (12") / AHR 1 (C.1938) / Chorus in raga
Durga. Music by Timir Baran.
24] Columbia GE 3132 (C.1935) / Pt.Omkarnath Thakur - Raga Bangiya Kafi
25] Columbia BEX 201 (12") [C.1935] / Pt.Omkarnath Thakur
26] Columbia 7 EPE 4227 (C.1965) / Pt.Omkarnath Thakur [reissued]
27] Rhythm House Classic 240 361 (c.1990) / Live recording in Mumbai
c.1960.
28] Young India TM 8463 (C.1948) / N.R.Bhattarcharya and Party
29] Young India TM 8474 (C.1948) / side 1-Trumpet,Jhanj and Piano, side
2-Shing and Chaughada. Music - Mr.Vasant Desai
30] Young India TM 8475 (C.1948) / side 1 - sung and music by Mr.Vasant
Desai
31] Young India TM 8476 (C.1948) / side 1-Shing and Chaughada,side 2 - for
use in theaters.
** The tunes are like the marching songs.
32] H.M.V. N 17014 (C.1950) / Sati Devi, Kamal Das, Ajay Biswas, Somen
Gupta.
Music Direction - Sur Sagar
33] H.M.V. HT 80 (12") [C.1945] / Dilip Kumar Roy
34] H.M.V. N 14421 (C.1950) / Dilip Kumar Roy, and M.S.Subbulaxmi
35] Columbia GE 3997 (C.1950) / Bai Mogubai Kurdikar, Raga - Khambavati
Music - Mr.V.D.Ambhaikar
36] Columbia GE 7357 (C.1950) / Surshree Orchestra - conducted by Rajan
Sarkar
37] H.M.V. N 20109 (C.1950) / Vocal and instrumental by Sur Sagar Jagmohan.
Side one - vocal, Side two - instrumental.
38] H.M.V. N 27829 (C.1950) / Jagonmoy Mitra, Dwijen Chowdhury, Debbrata
Biswas, Niharbindu Sen, Kanak Das, Suchitra Mukherjee, Supriti Ghosh, Gita
Nabar. Music Direction - Anadi Dastidar.
39] H.M.V. N 27893 (C.1950) / Jagonmoy Mitra, Beehu Dutta, Roma Devi,
Supriti Ghosh. Tune and Music Direction - Timir Baran.
40] H.M.V. N 28000 (C.1950) / Smt.D.Vasanta and D.Vimala (Tamil)
41] H.M.V. N 28002 (C.1950) / Miss D.Vasanta (Tamil)
42] H.M.V. N 16872 (C.1950) / Varat Vyas and Party (Hindi)
43] H.M.V. N 16331 (C.1950) / Ram Asram Girl's School (Hindi)
44] Hindustan Records / H 1348 (C.1940) / Pankaj Mullick and others
Orchestra with vocal refrain.
45] H.M.V. P 11361 (C.1928) / Vishnupant Pagnis - Raga Sarang
** The same track is reissued on Rounder CD 1083 (1993)
'Vintage Music From India - North India - track no.17
46] Ramagraph R 920 (C.1930) / 6029-30 / Vishnupant Pagnis - Part 1 & 2.
47] H.M.V. N 36170 (C.1950) / Geeta Roy and Durani
48] Columbia GE 17512 (C.1938) / Master Krishnarao - Raga Jhinjhoti
49] H.M.V. N 16939 (C.1951) / Chorus - Vishwa Bharati Artists
50] H.M.V. N 16985 (C.1951) / Chorus - Brass Band Group
51] Senola Records / QS 711 (C.1935) / Chorus from Film 'Bande Mataram'
(Bengali). Tune - Sukerti Sen.
52] H.M.V. PMLP 1703, cassette STHV 24172 (C.1965) / " Shraddhanjali " (LP)
/ Hemanta Mukherjee and others - from Bengali film ' Mahabiplavi aurobinda '
53] H.M.V. N 27606-611 (C.1950) / Bengali Drama Set Records - 'Anand Math' -
Dramatized by Manmatha Roy.
54] Columbia GE 7323-29 (C.1950) / Bengali Commentary Drama set Records -
'Swadhintar Saadhana [part of the song only] / by Sachin Sen Gupta, Music -
Durga Sen.
55] Test Record / ?? / Chandra Bandorey - more or less in the tune as sung
by Pt.Omkarnath Thakur.
56] H.M.V. N 82936 (1962) / Chorus - AIR Choral Group
57] H.M.V. 7EPE 1006 (1965) / Chorus - AIR Choral Group
58] H.M.V. (LP) ECSD 35518 (C.1970) / Bharati Songs - I / Smt.M.S.Subbulaxmi
(Tamil Version), side two - track one (different tune).
59] Odeon A 245012 b (C.1935) / Vande Mataram / Mr.Keshav Rao Bhole - in
Raga Deshkar.
60] Star Hindustan Record JSA 5305 (C.1940) / Shobha Khanna, Kamala and
Suresh. Music - Purshottamdas Jalota.
61] Music India EP 2067 842 (1982) by Mahendra Kapoor and Chorus - National
songs. - arranged and conducted by Y.S.Mulki.
62] Janata Audio (JA 1001, Calcutta) cassette - 'PREYRONA' / side one - Sree
Radha Bandopadhyay, side two - Haimanti Shukla. Sung by two artists in two
different tunes.
- Tribute by W.B.P.C.C.: 50 years of independence and birth centenary of
Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose. Commemorating 80th session of Indian National
Congress, 8-10 August 1997, at Calcutta - W.B.P.C.C. President Sj.Somen
Mitra.
63] In Hindi film - "Amar Asha' [Immortal Hope] Music-
No gramophne record was issued. Singers are not known.
64] H.M.V. N 50169 (C.1952) / Lata Mangeshkar and others - Film 'Anandmath'
(Hindi). Music - Hemant Kumar
** Reissued in "Vande Mataram" - 2 (1999) HMV TPHVS-854 126
65] In Hindi film 'Aandolan' (1951) / Manna Dey, Shaileshkumar, Sudha
Malhotra, Parul Ghosh and others / Music - Pannalal Ghosh.
66] In Hindi film 'Leader' (1964) / used as a background chorus score for
the credit titles. / No record made - music by Naushad.
** Tune is like marching song.
67] In Hindi and English film - 'Making of Mahatma' (1996) / sung by Usha
Utthup / Music by Vanaraj Bhatiya.
68] Sony Music 488 7094 (1997) / sung by Anuradha, Sujata, Kalyani Menon and
Seema / Music by A.R.Rehman.
69] HMV SPHOS 854083 (1996) / Mere Vatanke Logo [50 years of India's
Independence] / Lata Mangeshkar : New Recordings.
70] HMV TPHVS 854124 (1998) - Vande Mataram 2, Bharatbala Productions.
1) Lata Mangeshkar - Vande Mataram 1998 & 1952, Jai Jai Mataram by Shubha
Mudgal and Tarana by Kaushiki Chakravarthy.
71] Polygram 6337 763 (1999) - A tribute to Nation - India Tu Hai Meri Pooja
- nine patriotic songs first time sung by Shree Anup Jalota.
72] LDER [Little Darling Educational Rhythms] presentation, New Delhi
(1999) - Desh Bhakti Geet - sung by Vandana Bajpai and others.
73]Fountain FMB 509 (2000) - Bharat 2000 - Top 10 Desh Bhakti Geet, Music by
Prasad Ranade. [Various artists]
74] Sagarika (cassettee) 31065 (1998) - 'Swadesh Aamar Swadesh' -
compilation of 14 Bengali patriotic songs - issued by Paschimbanga Rajya
Sangeet Academy and sung by the students of academy.
75] Wings (cassette) - SSDH/WHC (Jan.2000) - 'Saare Jahanse Achha Hindustan
Hamara' - Patriotic songs:side A - sung by Sadhana Sargam, Bipin Sachdeva,
Vinod Rathod and chorus [in same tune sung by Lata Mangeshkar in
'Anandmath'].
76] Cassettee HMV SPHOS 843255 (8/1999) - Vande Mataram - Tunes of Bengali
patriotic songs - played by Calcutta Cine Musicians Association under the
direction of Pandit V.Balsara - side one - song no.1.[AIR tune].
77] Genious Rabindranath Tagore CD [June 1999] - Bande Mataram [2 minutes
and 40 seconds duration song reissued from Pathe / H.Bose disc (originally
sung by Dr.Rabindranath Tagore)]. Recording digitally remastered from
Germany.
A book - ' Rabindranath Tagore : Facets of a genious ' - published by
Director General of All India Radio - CD / cassettee available with this
book.
78] CDNF 154034/35 (1997) - 'Voices of freedom' - sung by Auro Mira choir
group, Shree Aurobindo Ashram. [Also issued on audio cassettee].
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Song sung / telecast, broadcast etc. but not recorded for commercial
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1] Pandit Vishnu Digambar Paluskar - in Raga Kafi. Sung at 1923 Kakinada
Congress Convention ignoring the opposition of muslim leaders.
2] Mr.Anandbihari Telang - Raga Desh.
3] Mr.S.S.Nigani - Raga Bhairavi.
4] Dr.Lalmani Mishra - Raga Malkauns.
5] Mr.Balwant Bhatta - Raga Sarang.
6] Test records of Mr.V.D.Ambhaikar - Three versions recorded (1948). These
are vocal, Instrumental and chorus recordings.
** Mr. Ambhaikar set this song in many different ragas since his childhood.
He sang it to almost all the great national leaders and at several congress
conventions. He spent most of his life in popularizing these tunes and
formed 'Vande Mataram chorus Party' for this purpose. On the insistence of
Dr.B.R.Ambedkar he cut three records and were played to the members of
Parliament.
7] Test Records of Master Krishnarao - Chorus and Band. (C.1938)
8] Recording from private program of Master Krishnarao. - first two stanzas.
(C.1952)
9] Recording from private program of Pandit Ram Marathe. (C.1960)
10] Recordings of son of Pandit Shankar Abhyankar. (C.1955)
11] Bengali Film - 'Anand Math' - by Satish Dasgupta
Music - Subal Dasgupta (13th September 1951)
12] Bengali Film - 'Sabuj Dwiper Raaja' - by Tapan Sinha (17th August 1979)
Music - Tapan Sinha
13] In a special session of Parliament - on 14th August 1997 - Pandit
Bhimsen Joshi sang first stanza of 'Vande Mataram' in Raga Desh. In the same
session Smt.Lata Mangeshkar concluded the song 'Saare Jahanse Acchha' by the
words 'Vande Mataram'.
14] Pandit Jasraj sang 0n 15th August 1998 in Parliament.
15] Sanskar Bharati Cassette - sung by Smt.Chitra Joshi.
16] Geet Bharati Cassette, Bangalore - full song sung by Mr.Shankar
Shanbhag.
17] Ustad Rashid Khan sung Vande Mataram in a concert of classical music
organized by IMG group of St.Xavier's college in Mumbai (1999).
18] Sung by eminent researcher Mr.Anant Chakraborty (partly) in an
unpublished audio cassette. This recording was done on 8th May 1990. Tune is
in Raga Mallar as directed in the novel 'Anandmath' by the author
Bankimchandra Chatterjee himself.
19] Sung by Smt.Sapana Chattopadhyaya in Raga Mallar (as set by
Mr.A.Chakraborty) in an unpublished cassette. The song was first sung on the
lawns of Sahitya Samrat Bankimchandra's ancestral house at Kathalpara,
Naihati, on 8th April 1994 and also on his birthday in 1994. [A copy of this
recording is available with Mr.S.K.Chatterjee by courtsey of Mr.Ajitkumar
Bhattacharya, Bhatpara,West Bengal]
20] Sung by Shri Jagonmoy Mitra in two different tunes, set by himself in an
unpublished cassette - Courtsey - Shri. Dipankar Chattopadhyaya.
21] Sung by 'Indira Sangeet Shikshayatan' - Akashbani, Calcutta on
12.12.1991 - in the tune set by Late Jyotirindranath Tagore.
22] Every day just after the signature tune Doordarshan plays first stanza
of 'Vande Mataram' along with the telecast visual images .
23] Notation of first two stanzas (in Raga Kafi) - by Pandit Ratanjankar in
the revised version of the book of his compositions.
24] Instrumental: on Naval band - composed in Raga Kafi by Mr.H.V.alias
Bapurao Datey, Poona. [Both notation and recording is available.]
25] Sung by Pandit Vinayakrao Patwardhan for Mr.H.V.Datey. [Private
recording available]
26] Renowned dancer Kelucharan Mahapatra presented 'Vande Mataram' ballet in
the Elephanta festival in Mumbai - Feb/March 1999. It is telecast from video
on Indian TV channels occasionally.
27] Pandit Ram Narayan played it on sarangi in one of the music festivals
organised in Mumbai in 1999.
28] Musician Hindukush and Cameraman C.K.S.Rao have released a video
cassettee for the telecast on 15th August 2000. The entire song is included
and is sung by Sadhana Sargam.
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References -
1] Bengali Magazine - 'Desh' 1995 - " Bande Mataram - O -Swadeshi Aandolan
" - by Chittaranjan Bandopadhyay.
2] The Gramophone Company's First Indian Recordings - by Mr.Michael Kinnear
3] Discussions with - Mr.Ajit Kumar Bhattacharya and Mr.Dulal Chandra Ghosh.
4] Catalogues, booklets, Records etc. from my collection and from others.
5] 'The Record News' - Journal of 'Society of Indian Record Collectors',
Mumbai. Vol.27-30 (1998-1999). Ed.Suresh Chandvankar
6] Commercial CD's, cassettes and gramophone records. [record labels, inlay
cards and sleeve notes]
7] Collection of recordings of Vande Mataram - Milind Sabnis, Pune
8] Details sent by Mr.Sushanta Kumar Chatterjee, Calcutta. [March 2000]
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naniwadekar
I have discovered some more information about Vande Mataram
floating around with me. This information, yet again, is courtsey
Suresh Chandvankar of SIRC, Mumbai.
- dn
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Some interesting events before the song became popular nationwide -
- Vande Mataram song - composed by Pujjyosri Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay in
1875. Now it is established that the date was 7th November 1875. As per
Hindu calendar
- Sj.Jadunath Bhattacharya was asked to set tune to this song just after it
was composed.
- Sj.Gopal Chandra Dhar of Hooghly District, Bengal sung it in Raga Desh
Malhar in 1876.
- The song was included in his novel 'Anandmath' by the composer and was
printed out in 1882.
- In 1885, Prativa Devi, niece of Rabindranath Tagore, made a swar lipi
(notation) of the song which was published in 'BALAK' magazine.
- Sung in National Congress in 1896, at Beadon Square, Calcutta by
Rabindranath Tagore and the song was declared to be recognized as the
National song. Piano accompaniment with the song was given by Jyotindranath
Tagore.
- Sj.Dakhina Charan Sen, a specialist in western tunes, sung the song in
Calcutta Congress in 1901.
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Pankaj Vyas
"Ajay Nerurkar" <ajayne...@yahoo1729.com> wrote in message
news:3d796b32$1...@nopics.sjc...
This is supproted at this site
http://www.vandemataram.com/html/vande/music.htm
Pankaj
> Ajay
>
>
Sreenivas Paruchuri
Chandvankar!
I am missing at least one disk. The one sung by Dr. Baalaantrapu
Rajanikanta Rao (popularly knows as RAJANI) and P. Bhanumati. On the
other side of the disk you find #pasiDi merungula taLataLalu# (a song
praising the Telugu land). Both the songs were first broadcast on the
eve of AIR-Vijayawada's inaguration in 1948 and released on disk in the
same year.
[Incidentally the above songs are the only 2 non-film songs recorded by
Bhanumati, if you exclude her purandaradaasa keertana-s for Sangeeta
lable.]
My memory may be playing tricks, but isn't there a version recorded by
Ms. K. aSwatthamma, that legendary singer and stage artist from
Karnataka? Or is it jana gaNa mana....?
Regards,
Sreenivas
Surjit Singh
Did he compose any version of any tune of vande maataram?
Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: