Jog Vs Thillang
Rajan P. Parrikar
>hi nettors,
>could some knowledgeable netguru explain the difference between the ragas
>Jog and Thillang. I recently listened to a cassette in which TNS has sung
>Jog and it is very similar to Thillang.
>thanks in advance,
>sri.
Briefly:
Raga Tilang: is considered a 'light` Raga. It employs both the nishads
but omits the rishab and dhaivat; In its Mishra form, however, both
these notes are freely used.
S.D. Burman had an inordinate fondness for Tilang and one can easily
discern Tilang-like phrases in several of his compositions. Two
of them that come to mind right away are: "Kaise kaheiN hum, pyar
ne humko kya kya khel dikhaye.." by Kishore Kumar (from Sharmilee)
and the superbly executed Kishore-Lata duet, "Gori-gori gaon ki
gori re..." from Yeh Gulistan Humara. SD really had a way with
Tilang.
Btw, the composition "Shyam sundar Madan Mohan" (by Vishnu Digambar?)
is well-known.
Aroha: S G M P N S"
Avaroha: S" n P G M G, S
Pakkad: S G M P n P G M G
Raga Jog: uses both the gandhaars and just the komal nishad. The
rishab and dhaivat are exiled.
Aroha: S G M P n S"
Avaroha: S" n P M G, (S)g S, n' P n S
As you can see, it is a vakra Raga. There is some overlap with
the phrasing of Tilang but overall they are very distinct in character.
The meend from the shuddha to the komal gandhaar in this Raga is
truly beautiful. I personally prefer to hear Jog from people
endowed with a lot of bass in their voice (Bhimsen, Jasraj etc).
Hariprasad Chaurasia can work quite a bit of magic in his Jog too.
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Bhalchandra Thatte (tha...@math.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>I think there is absolutely no similarity between the two ragas.
>Hindol is the only Hindustani raga which is sung with just 4 notes
>S G2 M2 D2, but some people also sing it with P and some people call
>it Pancham Hindol.
Usually the shudhha nishad is used as a grace note. With pancham as
well as rishab thrown in, it is also referred to as Sampurna Hindol.
>I have heard a nattya-geet (Marathi) in 4-note Hindol.
Yes, there is one though I am experiencing a spectacular memory
failure at the moment trying to recall the details.
Lata's "Kahin deep jale kahin dil.." from Bees Saal Baad (music
by Hemant Kumar) is magnificent (although it swerves off from Hindol
in the antaraa. (Of course, pretend that you didn't hear that komal
rishab in the 'Ooooo`).
Rajan Parrikar
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Suhas Bhandarkar
Rajan P. Parrikar <parr...@spot.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>
>
>Raga Jog: uses both the gandhaars and just the komal nishad. The
>rishab and dhaivat are exiled.
>
>Aroha: S G M P n S"
>Avaroha: S" n P M G, (S)g S, n' P n S
>
>As you can see, it is a vakra Raga. There is some overlap with
>the phrasing of Tilang but overall they are very distinct in character.
>The meend from the shuddha to the komal gandhaar in this Raga is
>truly beautiful. I personally prefer to hear Jog from people
>endowed with a lot of bass in their voice (Bhimsen, Jasraj etc).
>Hariprasad Chaurasia can work quite a bit of magic in his Jog too.
>*****
>
Good point. I have a live recording of Jog by Jasraj which bears
testament to that. He goes on to show how three other ragas -
Brindavani Sarang, Kedar and Gujari Todi- can be made to spring
from Jog. I think the shuddha gandhar-komal gandhar meend in Jog is so
compelling because the resonances thereof are hypnotic.
Suhas
>Rajan Parrikar
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Sriram Ganesh
Pankaj Joshi
I think a couple of years ago there was a Jugalbandi between Hariprasad
Chaurasia and Pt. Jasaraj in Shivaji Park. They both played Raga Jog for
about 100 mins and it is recorded live. As expected it is very good.
First 50 mins is alap and then there are 3 compositions.
Pankaj