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Sriram Devanathan

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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Could someone post the notes and characteristic phrases of the raag
lankadahan saarang? I believe it uses the same notes as the Carnatic
raag Sree (sRmpnS, SnDnpmRgRs). Are there some known variations of
lankadahan saarang?....for e.g., Sree (Carnatic) is used with or without
the dhaivat.

Thanks,
Sriram

Rajan P. Parrikar

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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Sriram Devanathan <sri...@mmm.com> wrote:


Briefly:

Raga Lankadahan Sarang comes in two primary versions,
both tied to the treatment of the komal gandhAr. In
one version the komal gandhAr in the avarohi prayoga
is manifest as in the kAnaDA-anga: (M)g (M)g M R S. In the
second version it is the komal gandhAr of Raga Desi.
To wit, P R g R S or P g, R g R S.
(M=shuddha madhyam above)

A secondary detail is that some treatments use both the
nishAds whereas others employ only the komal type.

There is a good rendition by Allauddin's boy, the
(naked) emperor of San Rafael, Mr Khan. It has been
long time since I last heard that piece. I recall
it was the komal nishAd-only, desi-type gandhAr
variety. The AlAp and jhAlA were marvellous, the
piquant treatment of dhaivat delicious. If I correctly
recall he played a composition in a fractional tAla
(11.5 mAtras, I may be off by a mAtra or two) resembling
dhamAr (I think he calls it dhamAri). The faster portion
was just noisy twaddle.

Other renditions are by Prof B.R. Deodhar and a couple
of Agra punters. I don't have an active recollection of
those details. Ramashreya Jha "Ramrang" has composed a
couple of beautiful bandishes which I Intend to have him
record shortly.

Auf Wiedersehen from Zurich,


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Arnab Chakrabarty

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Aug 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/27/00
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Greetings.

> Briefly:
>
> Raga Lankadahan Sarang comes in two primary versions,
> both tied to the treatment of the komal gandhAr. In
> one version the komal gandhAr in the avarohi prayoga
> is manifest as in the kAnaDA-anga: (M)g (M)g M R S. In the
> second version it is the komal gandhAr of Raga Desi.
> To wit, P R g R S or P g, R g R S.
> (M=shuddha madhyam above)

R M P n - P, R g R S R -, S. n1 S R M P n P n M P N S', R' g' R', S'. P n
- P, (g) R g R - S, P1 n1 P1, S. etc, etc... There are a few kAnadAa-anga
renditions I am aware of - by Ram Chatur Mallik, and Sharafat if I
remember correctly. I do not own the tape.

> A secondary detail is that some treatments use both the
> nishAds whereas others employ only the komal type.

Various Hanumans have burnt Lanka in various highly personalized ways.
The legend remains that Hanuman burnt Sri Lanka.

> There is a good rendition by Allauddin's boy, the
> (naked) emperor of San Rafael, Mr Khan. It has been
> long time since I last heard that piece. I recall
> it was the komal nishAd-only, desi-type gandhAr
> variety. The AlAp and jhAlA were marvellous, the
> piquant treatment of dhaivat delicious. If I correctly
> recall he played a composition in a fractional tAla
> (11.5 mAtras, I may be off by a mAtra or two) resembling
> dhamAr (I think he calls it dhamAri). The faster portion
> was just noisy twaddle.

I would like to remind Rajanji that the Emperor also used some Shuddha
nishAd in his rendition, as he does not avoid any note that strikes his
fancy at the given moment. There is also an AIR Mumbai version of this
Lankadahan Sarang which is good for the first fifteen minutes. That is
the only recording on which I have heard someone play Lankadahan Sarang
without altering its form every 30 seconds. The jhAlA, contrary to
Rajanji's learned opinion, sucks, and so does all the bol-bant, for its
lack of punch in the RA stroke, (or lack thereof). Also, the versions
that I am aware of revolve around one basic idea which grows stale as the
performance progresses, and at stages past the vilambit AlAp, there is no
expansion or barhat. I guess this is because of the small scope of the
rAga.

> Other renditions are by Prof B.R. Deodhar and a couple
> of Agra punters. I don't have an active recollection of
> those details. Ramashreya Jha "Ramrang" has composed a
> couple of beautiful bandishes which I Intend to have him
> record shortly.

Please put those out on your website in mp3 or ra formats. It would be
awesome to hear theswe versions.

> Auf Wiedersehen from Zurich,

Any good deals to India on Swissair? I get good student fares sometimes.

Regards,
A


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Rajan P. Parrikar

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Aug 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/27/00
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Arnab Chakrabarty <achakr...@hampshire.edu> wrote:

>I would like to remind Rajanji that the Emperor also used some Shuddha
>nishAd in his rendition, as he does not avoid any note that strikes his
>fancy at the given moment.

I recall at least one occasion in the rendition I
refer to where he used a higher shade of nishAd.
It might have been inadvertant but it took nothing
away from the overall presentation.


>There is also an AIR Mumbai version of this
>Lankadahan Sarang which is good for the first fifteen minutes. That is
>the only recording on which I have heard someone play Lankadahan Sarang
>without altering its form every 30 seconds. The jhAlA, contrary to
>Rajanji's learned opinion, sucks, and so does all the bol-bant, for its


The jhAlA in the recording I refer to was very good.
So was his grasp of the rAga.

Warm regards from amche Goa,


r


ChristianAMR

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Dec 21, 2022, 5:36:02 PM12/21/22
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Sudhir Gadre from OceanofRagas writes that is is Brindavani Sarang + Jaijaiwanti , and the similar Carnatic raag would be Manirangu .

luzchurch

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Dec 22, 2022, 4:46:13 AM12/22/22
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On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 4:06:02 AM UTC+5:30, christian...@gmx.net wrote:
> Sudhir Gadre from OceanofRagas writes that is is Brindavani Sarang + Jaijaiwanti , and the similar Carnatic raag would be Manirangu .
Anyone interested in learning details of Hindustani and Karnatak ragas can download 4 volumes of Raganidhi from here:
http://musicresearchlibrary.net/omeka/search?query=raganidhi&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=File&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&record_types%5B%5D=SimplePagesPage&submit_search=Search
The details of Lankadahan Sarang are in volume 3.

ChristianAMR

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Jan 10, 2023, 2:40:09 PM1/10/23
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luzchurch schrieb am Donnerstag, 22. Dezember 2022 um 10:46:13 UTC+1:
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 4:06:02 AM UTC+5:30, christian..et wrote:
> > Sudhir Gadre from OceanofRagas writes that is is Brindavani Sarang + Jaijaiwanti , and the similar Carnatic raag would be Manirangu .
> Anyone interested in learning details of Hindustani and Karnatak ragas can download 4 volumes of Raganidhi from here:
> http://musicresearchlibrary.net/omeka/search?query=raganidhi&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=File&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&record_types%5B%5D=SimplePagesPage&submit_search=Search
> The details of Lankadahan Sarang are in volume 3.

Thanks for the info .

ChristianAMR

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Feb 6, 2023, 6:34:13 PM2/6/23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDvIxZlRgU - Shruti Sadolikar - It doesn´t have that what I am consciously looking for , nevertheless there is something captivating about her swara-handling .

Btw , Ab Shenoy has 2 clips : One in Kannada-ang , the other in Deshi-ang .

ChristianAMR

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May 18, 2023, 12:17:28 PM5/18/23
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^

Shruti sings the Desi-ang prkr .
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