Raga info please...
arv...@wipinfo.soft.net
the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
1: Raga Gambheeravani: I do believe this one in janya in Naaganandini.
The song I have heard is "Sadamatheem".
2: Raga KarnaRanjani: The "popular"song "VanchaToluna" is in this raga, I
believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film song sung
by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon
se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute pieces in this
song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
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arv...@wipinfo.soft.net wrote:
> Hello devotees of Carnatic/Karnatak music, Could someone please let me have
> the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
>
> 1: Raga Gambheeravani: I do believe this one in janya in Naaganandini.
> The song I have heard is "Sadamatheem".
Not able to help you on the first one.
> 2: Raga KarnaRanjani: The "popular"song "VanchaToluna" is in this raga, I
> believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film song sung
> by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon
> se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute pieces in this
> song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
vAnch thOnunA by Harikeshanallur Muthiah Bhagavathar, Om namO nArAyaNA is also
in this same raagam.
karnaranjani S R2 G2 M1 G2 P D2 S
S N2 D2 P M1 G2 R2 S
There is always a limitation of the notation in expressing the actual "bhava"
of the raagam. That is, the ArOhanam & avarOHanam are sometimes not
sufficient to point out the nuances, difference of the raagam with other
closely allied raagams, etc. It is a good place to start, anyway.
For an Online reference list of most Carnatic raagas, including index and
links to locate the ArOHanam & avarOHanam, you can peek at
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/7755/RaagMain.htm
For a text version of a raga list maintained by Kumaran Santhanam you can look
up his web site at
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ksanthan
Vasu.
Music pages :
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/7755/music.htm
Rajan P. Parrikar
>Hello devotees of Carnatic/Karnatak music, Could someone please
>let me have the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant
>info on these ragas:
> 2: Raga KarnaRanjani: The "popular"song "VanchaToluna" is in this
>raga, I believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film
>song sung by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke
>jaise yugon se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute
>pieces in this song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
"tumhe dekhti hooN..." is composed by Jaidev. I didn't know Raju
Roshan had 're-mastered' it. (*)
The uThAva of the number allies with Raga Shivaranjani, but then the
komal nishAd is introduced, followed by the shuddha madhyam, followed
by the komal dhaivat - M (shuddha) n and d are foreign to Shivaranjani.
The karnATaka (Ashok, please take note) Karnaranjini has all these
notes but I doubt the rAga is elucidated in this composition. There
is another old melody found in granthas such as Sangeeta Parijata,
the moribund Raga Kollahas, that is akin to Shivaranjani but with
an additional komal nishAd.
So "tumhe dekhti hooN" is _based_ in Shivaranjani with the usual
disclaimers about contamination attached.
An approximate outline of the mukhDA is as follows (M=shuddha);
approximate because it is hard to capture in written notation
(not without cluttering the screen) the nuance Lata and Jaidev
bring to the melody.
S R g P P (S")D S" S"
tu...mhe de.......kha......ti.... hooN
D D S" R" g" R" n P g
to la...ga...tA.... hai ai.......se
g P D n D g R M
ke jai..se.... ju..goN.. se
R M P d P g (S)R S
tu...mhe jA........na..ti...... hooN
Warm regards,
r
(*) There is the story of the colourful German conductor Hans von Bulow.
A young composer asked for his opinion on a new score he (the young
composer) had written. Seeing that it was a patchwork drawn from several
well-known earlier works von Bulow replied, 'I ALWAYS liked it.'
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> the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
>
> The song I have heard is "Sadamatheem".
>
> believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film song sung
> by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon
> se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute pieces in this
> song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
>
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For Raga Karnaranjani there is now a popular contemprory krithi by Ambujam
Krishna "Om Namo Narayana". You can find information on the Raga at
http://www.rit.edu/~pnveme/ragaindex.html
Venkat
kishore...@rocketmail.com
Another great composition in Karna Ranjani is 'Deena Saranyane - Devaki
Baalane' by Neela RaamaMurthy. There is a wonderful recording by Bombay
Jayashree.
-- Kishore Meduri
In article <752ib6$eo6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
vidy...@hotmail.com wrote:
> In article <7527ic$5kk$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> arv...@wipinfo.soft.net wrote:
> > Hello devotees of Carnatic/Karnatak music, Could someone please let me have
> > the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
> >
> > 1: Raga Gambheeravani: I do believe this one in janya in
Naaganandini.
> > The song I have heard is "Sadamatheem".
>
> Not able to help you on the first one.
>
> > 2: Raga KarnaRanjani: The "popular"song "VanchaToluna" is in this raga, I
> > believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film song sung
> > by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon
> > se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute pieces in this
> > song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
>
> vAnch thOnunA by Harikeshanallur Muthiah Bhagavathar, Om namO nArAyaNA is also
> in this same raagam.
>
> karnaranjani S R2 G2 M1 G2 P D2 S
> S N2 D2 P M1 G2 R2 S
>
> There is always a limitation of the notation in expressing the actual "bhava"
> of the raagam. That is, the ArOhanam & avarOHanam are sometimes not
> sufficient to point out the nuances, difference of the raagam with other
> closely allied raagams, etc. It is a good place to start, anyway.
>
> For an Online reference list of most Carnatic raagas, including index and
> links to locate the ArOHanam & avarOHanam, you can peek at
> http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/7755/RaagMain.htm
>
> For a text version of a raga list maintained by Kumaran Santhanam you can look
> up his web site at
> http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ksanthan
>
> Vasu.
> Music pages :
> http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/7755/music.htm
>
shub...@gmail.com
> Hello devotees of Carnatic/Karnatak music, Could someone please let me have
> the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
>
> 1: Raga Gambheeravani: I do believe this one in janya in Naaganandini.
> The song I have heard is "Sadamatheem".
>
> believe. I also think this raga has been used in an 80s Hindi film song sung
> by Lata Mangeshkar "Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon
> se.." Music composed by Rajesh Roshan. Some flighty flute pieces in this
> song, to jog your memories.. Thanks in advance. Arvind V.
>
>
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Tumhe dekhti hoon, to lagta hai aise, ke jaise yugon is composed by jaidev & not rajesh roshan
Lakshman Ragde
> Hello devotees of Carnatic/Karnatak music, Could someone please let me have
> the the Arohanam and Avarohanam and any other relevant info on these ragas:
>
> 1: Raga Gambheeravani: I do believe this one in janya in Naaganandini.